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Growing signs of Hasan terror conspiracy?

Ynetnews has the common sense details:

A massacre at a Texas army base that left 13 people dead is increasingly looking like part of a terror conspiracy rather than an act of a lone gunman.

The growing suspicious are related, among other things, to shooter Nidal Malik Hasan's connection to September 11 terrorists, the funds he is suspected of transferring to Pakistan, and his ties with radical Yemenite cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, associated with al-Qaeda.

By now, officials estimate that these ties were not confined to Hasan's participation in prayer sessions at Al-Awlaki's Virginia mosque and "spiritual advice". While emails exchanges between the two initially focused on religious matters, they later shifted to discussion of financial transfers for operational aims, the Washington Post reported Saturday.

'Significant evidence'

The paper based its report on FBI sources who estimate that the email exchanges point to a terror conspiracy. According to the sources, the ties between Hasan and Awlaki grew closer in recent months and involved discussions regarding the secret transfer of money and other means in order to translate plans into actions.

According to the report, Hasan asked for deliveries of less than $10,000, so he would not be obligated to report them to the army.

Interesting that the piece references the FBI as the source for the terror conspiracy angle. My perusal of news outlets seems to contradict those sources though admittedly, much of what I'm seeing as to what the FBI is saying is somewhat dated:

Hasan came to the attention of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 2008 as part of an investigation being conducted by the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which include agencies such as the FBI, Defense Department and state and local law enforcement, according to the FBI.

The task forces are supposed to "bring investigators and analysts into a collaborative, information-sharing environment in order to maximize the collective impact of the respective agencies," according to an FBI statement.

Information can only be distributed outside a task force with approval of the group's FBI supervisor.

"In this case, following the review and analysis conducted by investigators, there was a conclusion made by the investigator and the supervisor that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or planning," according to the Nov. 11 FBI statement. "Further dissemination of the information regarding Major Hasan was neither sought nor authorized."

In related news, Hasan has been reclassified as a 'pretrial detainee':

In a hearing in a San Antonio military hospital room Saturday, the Army obtained a judicial order that places more restrictions on Fort Hood shooting suspect Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and makes it easier for the military to move him from Brooke Army Medical Center pending trial, his lead lawyer said.

But where Hasan might be moved -- or when -- remained unknown after the closed-door, 90-minute hearing in the intensive care unit, where Hasan is recuperating, retired Army Col. John Galligan said.

Military judge Lt. Col. William Hintze granted the Army's request to change Hasan's status to "pretrial detainee" and also found enough probable cause for the 13 charges of premeditated murder to remain against Hasan, Galligan said.

Hasan was charged Nov. 12 in connection with the shootings that left 13 people dead and several others injured at the Soldier Readiness Center at Fort Hood.

"A couple of days ago, he was a restricted patient," Galligan said. "He is now a confined patient. When the status changes to pretrial confinee, there are consequences."

Army bars reporters
Galligan said there might be limits on Hasan's visitations, for example, or that it might lead to the movement of Hasan to a location farther away, making it more difficult for him to be advised by his lawyers.

Galligan said it was unclear when Hasan might leave Brooke.

"I've asked that the prosecutors delineate those things," Galligan said.

"There were no immediate clear answers."

No immediate clear answers largely because clarity is being obfuscated by political correctness and dhimmitude-ness.

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Comments (22)

Nice summary up until your ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Nice summary up until your last statement.

This is typical procedure and it has been relatively expedited, considering we're talking about the Army.

"Common sense details"</... (Below threshold)
Victory is Ours:

"Common sense details" you say? Wow, Sarah Palin's orders are followed strictly and quickly around here.

Glad to see Sarah's army busily at work spreading the gospel of Sarah and doing her "good work"...

Readers may be asking www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/sarah-palin-tells-rush-li_b_361337.html"what the heck am I talking about? Sarah's Army has adopted the slogan "common sense" -- you know, to rally the common people put off "because clarity is being obfuscated by political correctness and dhimmitude-ness."

Read what Sarah parroted in her Rush Limbaugh interview, responding to each question with "commonsense answers"...

Unemployment?

But those commonsense solutions there, especially with the cutting taxes on the job creators? That's not even being discussed.

Healthcare reform?

Not when there are commonsense solutions to meeting health care challenges in our country... So lots of commonsense solutions that need to be plugged in before ever considering federal government taking it over.

The 2010 elections?

It's all about Americans who are hurting right now and what those solutions are that are so obvious, so commonsense that need to be plugged in.

The recent special congressional election in New York State?

They are seeking commonsense, conservative solutions to all the challenges that we're facing. I'm glad to see this.

Independent voters?

Todd's not a Republican and yet he's got more commonsense conservatism than a whole lot of Republicans that I know... But in answer to your question, I don't think that the third party movement will be what's necessary to usher in some commonsense conservatism ideals... In Alaska, about 70% of Alaskans are independent. So that's my base. That's where I am from and that's been my training ground, is just implementing commonsense conservatism solutions.

The Future of the Republican Party?

Let's go back to what Reagan did in the early eighties and stay committed to those commonsense free market principles that worked.

The overall message of her book?

It was just a lot of hard work and it was a lot of very commonsense measures that I undertook politically and practically speaking, and the book is about that, and hopefully people will read it and enjoy it and learn something from it.

Do you fellow blog writers know you're slipping Sarah's subliminal messaging into your blog posts?

Anyway - good job - I look forward to more blog posts where you "common sense" us - Sarah-Style.

The troll is getting sloppy... (Below threshold)
davidt:

The troll is getting sloppy(wildly off topic) in its 'work'.

thanks for the talking poin... (Below threshold)

thanks for the talking points, Vic!

Of course, she is CORRECT on each and every one!

But since the "Motion to Proceed" is fresh in our minds...
WHY are the Dems waiting until 2014 to enact the "Reform", when RIGHT NOW, at ZERO expense they could:
- strip away barriers to inter-State commerce on Insurance plans
- AGRESSIVELY puruse the $80+ BILLION in known Medicare fraud
- reduce Health Care expenses across the board by finally enacting TORT REFORM!

Why 2014? (and why even THEN are they not calling to do ANY of these things?) Because the Democrats don't one good DAMN about HealthCare "reform". They want the power of Life & Death over us. Period.

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!... (Below threshold)
epador:

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!!

Justrand you can't ask "COM... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Justrand you can't ask "COMMON SENSE" questions of VIC and expect him to reply. Your questions are not covered in the daily DNC Talking Points.
Which would tend to leave VIC, like his Obamassiah, speechless.

Vic, Is there anyone... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Vic,
Is there anyone who can delete Vics post and politely ask him to save it for his next trip to the therapist????

The Army line legal apparat... (Below threshold)
epador:

The Army line legal apparatus is trying to clean up this awful mess the medical side made of things. Don't diss them (at least yet).

The careers on the medical side, especially those that transferred him to Mt Hood in hopes he would "just go away," ought to be ended in disgrace after trial for dereliction of duty. THAT I would like to see some investigative blogging about, as it is far too likely that they'll slide into obscurity. It's the way the majority of O-6 and above medical forces in all the armed services tend to behave. Sadly.

Nothing to do with "political correctness and dhimmitude-ness" and everything to do with bureaucratic covering your ass.

I try to resist troll stomp... (Below threshold)

I try to resist troll stomping...but damn, it's fun sometimes! :)

Now...back on topic...

Dear Glorious and Most Awesome Lord Obama,
Are we permitted to call Hasan a "terrorist" yet? Please?
Signed, The Masses

Epador,I think the... (Below threshold)
Rick:

Epador,

I think the argument could be made substantively that bureaucratic ass covering is motivated by political correctness... and in this case, dhimmitude-ness

Nope, those motivations are... (Below threshold)
epador:

Nope, those motivations are separate from the "I just want this problem to go away and not affect my military retirement" syndrome that plagues AMEDD and the other military medical services. The military medical system is unfortunately a great place for incompetent and dangerous doctors to hide out. In this case, the fellow killed a lot of folks at once. Most of the time they do it one at a time.

::: sprays Troll-B-Gone and... (Below threshold)

::: sprays Troll-B-Gone and walks away :::

LEARN HOW TO PREVENT FUTURE... (Below threshold)

LEARN HOW TO PREVENT FUTURE NIDAL HASANS

The dilemma caused by the shooting at Fort Hood by Major Hasan exemplifies how each of our programs have failed us. When supervisors, counselors and task forces members rely on subjective references of culture and mental illness, observers miss the signs specific to aggression referenced in post analysis. When observers focus specifically on aggressive behavior, the objective and culturally neutral signs of "aggression" standout, providing the opportunity to prevent these violent encounters.

Major Hasan was under surveillance by two Terrorist Task Forces, one with Department of Defense oversight and the other with FBI oversight. So why wasn't he stopped?

The use of subjective/qualitative indicators, prone to stereotype individuals by culture or religion; versus quantitative indicators and the use of mental health references know to mislead and misconstrue, fails us repeatedly in our attempts to prevent acts of violence. Only when we use the specificity of "aggression" and its objective, culturally neutral indicators can we get-out-in-front of these acts of aggression and prevent them. Why are current systems uses on campus failing us?

The answer is quite simple - The military does not have an objective and culturally neutral system that collects information and evaluates it to determine the degree (or level) of aggression an individual is displaying, nor has it people who have a clear responsibility to observe and report this information. Learn more about the problem and the solution by reading our Blog: http://Blog.AggressionManagement.com

"Victory is Ours" has anyo... (Below threshold)
Marc:

"Victory is Ours" has anyone ever told you to FOAD?

Someone has now.

Get a load of this asshat. ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Get a load of this asshat. NYT's, that figures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/opinion/22wright.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

They cannot move him to Git... (Below threshold)
AStoner:

They cannot move him to Gitmo can they?

How interesting, #13, alrea... (Below threshold)
epador:

How interesting, #13, already folks trying to profit off the fear. The failure was NOT from military intelligence, the FBI or anti-terrorism task forces. The God Damn WRAMC supervisors and colleagues knew he was a nut case and sent him to FH just to get him gone. They are the ones at fault here.

Get a load of this ASSSSHAT... (Below threshold)
914:

Get a load of this ASSSSHAT.

http:// www.VIC..isaloser.org//

Anyways, next will learn Hasan did not pay His taxes and went to Holders bahmitzpah.

Where are all the asswipe c... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Where are all the asswipe crying "he's only a nutcase, move along nothing to see here."

On that note, where are all the bedwettters claiming a trail in NY would be easy as pie and nothing to see there either?

A lawyer for one of five men facing trial for the Sept. 11 attacks says the men plan to plead not guilty and use the trial to express their political views.

Attorney Scott Fenstermaker says his client Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali and the others will not deny their role in the 2001 attacks but will tell the jury "why they did it."

He says the men will explain "their assessment of American foreign policy."

Fenstermaker met with Ali last week at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay. He says the men, including professed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, have discussed the trial among themselves.

Send in the clowns, it WILL be a circus.

"He says the men will expla... (Below threshold)
914:

"He says the men will explain "their assessment of American foreign policy"

Thanx!! Thats comforting & oh so reassuring.

"DO NOT FEED THE TRO... (Below threshold)
914:


"DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!!"

Sorry.... I cant help it!

"Growing signs of Hasan ter... (Below threshold)
914:

"Growing signs of Hasan terror conspiracy?"

You mean Barry got a 3am ride home from a Kennedy?




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