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Howard Dean: ObamaCare is "a giant bailout that makes AIG look cheap"

H/T to HotAir, who provide this partial transcript:

DEAN: There is something worse than passing no bill. This bill isn't very strong. In fact, the only piece of reform left in it is the public option. The insurance reform is gone, essentially, because what they did is they have guaranteed issue -- they have to, er, the insurance company has to ensure you -- the problem is they don't have community rating any more. They, they, they, the Senate bill, I think, charges three or four times as much for sick people as they do for healthy people, and the House bill is twice as much. ...

DEAN: You know, we did this ten or fifteen years ago in Vermont, and you can charge 20% more for your most expensive clients as you can for your cheapest clients, and that's it. Now if you can afford to buy health insurance if it's 20% above the bottom price, but you can't afford to buy health insurance if it's twice as much or three times as much, so guaranteed issue doesn't do you any good unless you have real community rating. Real community rating doesn't exist in either the House or the Senate bill, so the old argument, which I used to make, was that we ought to pass this thing just to get the insurance reform. There isn't any insurance reform left in this bill to speak of. ...

DEAN: You know, what this is is a giant bail-out. This is a bail-out that makes AIG look cheap. Sixty billion dollars a year go to the insurance companies under this bill. Now if we can get a public option, I think that's OK, but if you don't have a public option, why would you want to stick the taxpayers with yet another bail-out? They bailed out the banks, they bailed out AIG. This is a trillion-dollar bailout. ...

DEAN: I would vote with Bernie Sanders. I would vote to kill this bill if it does not have a public option, because that is doing harm to the nation. It's not just, "Well, there's some of this" -

PRESS: Yeah.

DEAN: This is a harmful bill to the nation without a public option, because it's going to take trillions of dollars, billions, well, trillions over several decades from our kids. The Republicans are right about the rhetoric of the bill. But if you get reform, you can fix it. If you don't get reform, you got the system that we have today, you are gradually going to start uninsuring people, because we are not going to be able to maintain this system. This system does nothing to control costs.

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Comments (11)

Socialism fails everytime i... (Below threshold)
914:

Socialism fails everytime its tried.

Dean is only concerned abou... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Dean is only concerned about the 2010 elections and that if this bill passes, the elections will be a Democratic blood bath.

Dean can take his 'public option' and shove it.

"There is something wors... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"There is something worse than passing no bill." It's getting Dean in front of a microphone and proving he can't construct a cogent sentence.

YEEAAARGH!

"This is a harmful bill ... (Below threshold)
Victory is Mao's:

"This is a harmful bill to the nation"

Howard Dean is now a traitor to the Democratic Party and must be shunned by all good liberals. And by shunned I mean punched, kicked and bitten.

We did it to Lieberman and we can do it to you too, Dean. STFU if you know what's good for you.

Death to unbelievers!

Peace.

DEAN: This is a harmful bil... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

DEAN: This is a harmful bill to the nation without a public option.

This particular bill is harmful to the nation even with a public option.

If you think Barry is a lou... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

If you think Barry is a lousy president, can you imagine how bad Dean would have been?

I'm thinking he would have ... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

I'm thinking he would have been better than Obama - Dean at least indicates he knows when reality's about to hit and hurt big-time. 2+2=4, and he knows we're way over what we can spend now.

Obama? No, actual hard-fact REALITY is just a foreign concept when you're 'reality-based' and everything can be spun, twisted, or re-explained to suit your ideology. 2+2=a new friggin' pony and a lifetime supply of bubble gum for everyone!

jacksmith.... the cut and p... (Below threshold)
Marc:

jacksmith.... the cut and paste drone.

P.S. Please, don't bother telling us "more later," unless you come up with an original thought of your own which is highly unlikely.

jacass...AKA JAC ASS... ... (Below threshold)
914:

jacass...AKA JAC ASS... Wheres your wander in credentials? The non tax payer league showed up unexpectedly? WHERES YOUR BUS PASS??

#1OK ALINSKI acoly... (Below threshold)
914:

#1

OK ALINSKI acolytes... You voted negative? Wheres Your model of success??

Success in the Alinsky mode... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Success in the Alinsky model isn't better governance, 914 - it's taking an existing system and putting it under great stress with the intention of destroying it. What comes afterwards is supposedly a 'People's Paradise' - which seems to rapidly turn into a 'People's Hell'.

It's far easier to destroy than create. It takes an artisan considerable time to create a delicate glass vase that's a thing of beauty. It takes a child a fraction of a second to drop it on a hard floor, and laugh at how funny the sound of it breaking is.

We are at a point where the left is anticipating the marvelous sound the current system they don't like will make when it is destroyed, without their anticipating the effort needed to construct a workable alternative, or the pain and loss caused by their destructive glee.




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