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Russia Throws Fuel on the Climategate Fire

I don't have a wealth of comments on this as details are still sketchy but if this is true it will be big news. The Institute of Economic Analysis (out of Russia) is claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change (out of England) tampered with Russian climate date.

Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country's territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports.

Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations.

The data of stations located in areas not listed in the Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature UK (HadCRUT) survey often does not show any substantial warming in the late 20th century and the early 21st century.

Again, if true, this is important for two reasons.
  1. A separate entity from the CRU that would have been implicated in either hiding or manipulating climate data.
  2. The Russian land mass is huge (12.5% of the world) and warming trends there contribute greatly to overall trends. If indeed the Russian data were cherry picked to only include stations with warming trends, correcting that could have a huge impact on perceived global trends.
Unfortunately this information is coming out of Russian papers and the only corroborating information I found were pdfs in untranslated Russian.

More information as it becomes available.


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Comments (20)

Wow! "Cherry picked" data!... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Wow! "Cherry picked" data! But not to worry. They're "scientists". We can TRUST "scientists".

Don't Run!We are you... (Below threshold)
MarlbeT:

Don't Run!
We are your friends!

If The Party says 2 + 2 = 5... (Below threshold)
O'Brien:

If The Party says 2 + 2 = 5, then 2 + 2 = 5.

Un. Fricken. Believable.</p... (Below threshold)
ParamusParis:

Un. Fricken. Believable.

The attack of the watermelo... (Below threshold)
Its Over:

The attack of the watermelons has been exposed. But they'll try again.

"The attack of the water... (Below threshold)
914:

"The attack of the watermelons has been exposed. But they'll try again."

Racist!

You would think the Ruskies would walk hand in hand in concert with the Won and His pathological minions? After all, they are both cut from the same red socialist upbringing?

Perhaps the Wun just want's to show em who's the grand Czar of climatosis? Yeah, and that other fat green freak too.

Wattsupwiththat has a bit m... (Below threshold)
Strick:

Wattsupwiththat has a bit more info. Russian IEA claims CRU tampered with climate data - http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/16/russian-iea-claims-cru-tampered-with-climate-data-cherrypicked-warmest-stations/

He quotes a 2004 Climategate email from Phil Jones that discusses the Siberian data issue and in which Jones claims he killed two papers that argued there were problems with Siberian data during peer review.

Sounds like some degree of confirmation to me.

Well Strick, my link I incl... (Below threshold)

Well Strick, my link I included above is actually to Wattsupwiththat, so I need some other confirmation. :) Thanks for looking for me though.

More info here, however.

Its over alright its over.<... (Below threshold)
914:

Its over alright its over.

If the data does not fit, y... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

If the data does not fit, you must omit.

i've heard it speculated th... (Below threshold)
Dave W:

i've heard it speculated that it was the Russians behind the climategate email leaks because they would have a lot to lose as far as their oil interests go. If it's all true, i hate to say it, but thank god for the russians lol. I could only guess that they hadn't pulled the trigger on something like this until now because the US has always been the country to stand in the way and not let world-wide redistribution of wealth occur, but with Obama, we aren't exactly stopping anything anymore...

"If the data does not fi... (Below threshold)
914:

"If the data does not fit, you must omit."

Since the data dont fit, Barry's a nitwit

"Скрыть снижение"</p... (Below threshold)
914:

"Скрыть снижение"

Sorry, I dont translate fluent swahili? What does that translate to in Chicago goonery?

Barry is a joke?

What an ugly, skanky, lying... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

What an ugly, skanky, lying bitch this AGW turned out to be. I swear I never dated her but Europe is going to feel like gnawing off its arm to get away tomorrow morning.

Ha, ha, this couldn't happen to a more arrogant asshole than Europe. I don't think a shot of penicillin is going to be enough to fix this one.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ... (Below threshold)
914:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahahahhanan

If google translate is tell... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

If google translate is telling me the truth, епадор said "hide the decline".

Hilarious! Я тебя люблю

I miss Victory is Ours. At a time like this his comments would be priceless.

What was once the "body of ... (Below threshold)

What was once the "body of science" behind the fascistic Left's Military Industrial Complex is now the very same "body of science" behind the fascistic Left's Goebbels' Warm-ongering!

" ... the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research ... (and) a government contract (has become) a substitute for intellectual (integrity). For every old blackboard there are now (millions of computers).

"The ... domination of the nation's 'scientists' by federal ... allocations, and the power of money ... (has absolutely corrupted 'science').

"Yet, in holding 'scientific research' and 'discovery' in respect, as we (once could), we must also be alert to the ... danger that public policy (has) become the captive of a (pseudo)-scientific-technological elite."
-- Dwight David Eisenhower - With apologies to


(Little wonder, then, that second-generation traitor and first-runner-up to Big Ears in The World's Most Dangerous Dullard stakes, Al-Fredo Gore-leone (yet another lunatic Lefty who's made a career of lying to those too damned stupid to know they're being lied to or who're too damned mean-spirited, greedy and/or fascistic to care) is the unelected Pope of the (godless) Church of The Flat-Earth No-Growth Environmental-Whacko Chicken Littles! )

Brian Richard Allen
Lost Angels - KKKalifobambicated 90028
And the Very Far Abroad

If its this GLOBAL WARMING ... (Below threshold)
Flu-Bird:

If its this GLOBAL WARMING how come its not effecting ANTARCTICA? how come we dont here about antarctica melting away? GLOBAL WARMING IS A BIG FAT LIE

"Flu-Bird: If its... (Below threshold)
914:

"Flu-Bird:
If its this GLOBAL WARMING how come its not effecting ANTARCTICA?"

Cause Al Gore is full of shit and not smart enough to look at all the "raw data", before He succumbs to the inner greed.

uh oh, my little Rusky tran... (Below threshold)
epador:

uh oh, my little Rusky transliteration got whomped.


Sniff, guess at least klrtz1 still loves me.




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