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Tea Bagging The Magic Negroes

In Rick's piece last night about Public Broadcasting and the term "tea-baggers" for the Tea Party protesters, a contender for "Wizbang Troll In Residence" Steve Green (not to be confused with the 160-proof Stephen Green) repeated the oft-asserted notion that the Tea Party movement can be fairly called "teabaggers" because one participant once used the term in the vulgar sense -- and therefore it's fair to label the entire movement by the term.

(Note to the uninitiated: one definition of "teabagging" is placing one's scrotum into someone else's mouth in an action similar to dipping a teabag into a cup of boiling water.)

Now, let's look at how this all started. And not surprisingly, a sexual innuendo was never part of the picture.

It began with people deciding to summon the spirit of the original American revolutionaries, with one of their biggest demonstrations against England. A hike in the tea tax led to some protesters storming ships in Boston Harbor and throwing the tea into the water in an action they called the Boston Tea Party. Someone got the bright idea of reminding the lawmakers in DC about that by sending them tea bags (you know, actual little bags containing actual tea -- not scrota) to indicate the voters' displeasure. That metaphor struck home for a lot of people, and they started referring to the public gatherings as "tea parties" -- until one wit at one of these noted the similarity to the vulgarism and started talking about "teabagging" Congress.

At that point, the left apparently went into orgasmic spasms. Now they had the tool they needed to diminish the Tea Party movement, and -- even better -- it came from one of the Tea Partiers themselves! If any of those Teabaggers complain, then the left can just point at the guy who said it first and say "your guy said it; we're just repeating what he said!"

OK, then. If that's the line of argument they want to use, let's run with it.

Rush Limbaugh has been called a racist and worse (well, not really -- "racist" is the "n-word" or "f-bomb" of the left -- there's NOTHING worse than being a RAAAAACIST! to the left) for his referring to President Obama as "the Magic Negro."

But Limbaugh wasn't the first to use that term for Obama. No, it was first used by an Obama supporter.

So, by the Tea Party opposition's logic, it's perfectly legitimate to take the term "Magic Negro" and apply it to President Obama. After all, it was first used by an Obama supporter, with full understanding of what the term meant, and as a form of praise for then-Senator Obama.

Personally, I won't use it. I think that Mr. Ehrenstein's column was insightful and raises some interesting points about why so many people supported Obama (and are having "buyer's remorse" now), but they've been lost in the foofaraw over "ZOMG! Someone called Obama a negro!"

No, I've long subscribed to the philosophy that -- barring exceptional circumstances -- one should refer to a group by the term they've chosen for themselves, and not one assigned by their detractors. When discussing abortion, I use the terms "pro-life" and "pro-choice," not "anti-choice" and "pro-abortion." It's simple courtesy.

So that's why I never bothered with the "Barack The Magic Negro" silliness. And that's why I don't have much respect for those who toss around the "teabaggers" term as a form of contempt.

So, Steve Green -- are you willing to do the same? To show just a modicum of respect and decorum?

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. Your words were muffled by that magic Negro's scrotum in your mouth.


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Comments (31)

Love the last line!!!!... (Below threshold)
Carol:

Love the last line!!!!

Actually, I thought the "te... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Actually, I thought the "teabagging" thing by Steve was a refreshing change. He had been stuck on "racist" for so long I was beginning to pass over his comments because that was really the gist of all them anyway.

I think the people who inve... (Below threshold)
JFM:

I think the people who invented the teabagger word intended to bring subconscious unpleasant memories about the carpetbaggers of reconstruction.

"...one should refer to ... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"...one should refer to a group by the term they've chosen for themselves, and not one assigned by their detractors."

Not to nitpick, but many black people use the n-word to refer to each other. I personally find it offensive coming from anyone. Yet those not of African descent are not excused for using it, ever - even though it's used by them.

The issue with Steve here is that he has assumed that the first time the term "teabagger" was raised in anyone's conscience and used verbally or in writing was that one guy at that one protest and because of that assumption it's fair game to call them all "teabaggers" and then snicker like a South Park third grader.

I'm personally not offended by the term so much as the immaturity of the person behind it.

Not much reaction h... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Not much reaction here, the outrage/give a damn meter's been inop for quite a while.

I would, however, advise all of you who are gagging on this crap to find, endorse and promote a truly CONSERVATIVE candidate for the coming election on November.. it'll mean a lot of grunt work--and likely very little recognition. The alternative really is unacceptable.

I'll NEVER be ashamed of my country--only ahamed of that which has been done TO it--and damned if Ill give up on it.

To paraphrase someeone, "this will not stand".

"carpetbaggers of reconstru... (Below threshold)
Meiji_man:

"carpetbaggers of reconstruction."
You mean the last time a bunch of northern liberals tried to tell everyone how to run things?

JT, I still maintain this i... (Below threshold)
epador:

JT, I still maintain this is becoming a tag-team effort, as you can see with sg drawing the short straw on the NPR piece. Nice clean pin on your part without a chair, ladder, and especially avoiding the bucket sg tried to use.

I believe A. Cooper at CNN ... (Below threshold)
recovered liberal democrat:

I believe A. Cooper at CNN used the term for the first time on his show snickering all the while. Consider the source.

Uh, magic negro?I ... (Below threshold)
Barry Soetoro:

Uh, magic negro?

I resemble that remark.

I believe A. Coop... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
I believe A. Cooper at CNN used the term for the first time on his show snickering all the while.

I think the show is now called Anderson Cooper 369.

Like the taste little Stevi... (Below threshold)
Michael:

Like the taste little Stevie?

lmao, great conclusion!... (Below threshold)

lmao, great conclusion!

If liberals think that anyo... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

If liberals think that anyone will be turned off by the Tea Party movement because of liberals use of the term teabaggers then they are sorely mistaken.
My 74 year old mother would be horrified at hearing a clinical defintion of the term. But she would also see that anyone who used that term to describe the Tea Party movement would be someone with hatred in their hearts and would naturally be inclined to ignore or shun those people or groups.
The point is that you are not causing people to turn away from the Tea Party movement. You are in fact giving people a reason to question your motives and see that you are not debating in good faith.
The teabagger term is a rope that liberals are hanging themselves with.

Jeff, I agree. I'll guess t... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

Jeff, I agree. I'll guess that the vast majority of people didn't know that the word "teabag" could've referred to this behavior until this whole thing came up. I didn't. The sniggering of a few liberal dolts on a failing cable TV channel will only serve to alienate many more people than it will attract. Not that anyone watches them.

Besides, it's juvenile. It reminds me of potty jokes in grade school or the "Bigus Dickus" scene in Life of Brian.

Oh stevie, oh stevie, what ... (Below threshold)
914:

Oh stevie, oh stevie, what can the matter be?

Hey Mac Lorry,Chuckl... (Below threshold)
recovered liberal democrat:

Hey Mac Lorry,
Chuckle....Chortle.....Chuckle. Shame on you...Chuckle....Chuckle....

oh were oh where is snarky,... (Below threshold)
Michael:

oh were oh where is snarky, smarmy, infantile little stevie...no comment little stevie on Jay's incisive treatise?

Why is it that you can neve... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

Why is it that you can never get liberals to debate in good faith ?

A typical attempt goes like this ...

Conservative: Obama is spending too much, he needs to slow down his spending spree.

Liberal: Bush had deficits too.

Conservative: Yes he did and conservatives complained about those as well. Of course in 2 years Obama will increase the deficit the same amount that Bush did in 8 years.

Liberal: You are being hypocritical, besides Obama was handed a mess by Bush that he needs to spend money to fix.

Conservative: So why does Obama spend most of the Stimulus money in 2010, 2011, and 2012 ? Shouldn't he have spent it in 2009 to fix the "mess" Bush left him.

Liberal: Bush took years to make the mess, it will take years to fix it.

Conservative: Could you be specific about the "mess" created by Bush ? I'm not sure I understand what he did that caused the recession ?

Liberal: He deregulated Wall Street.

Conservative: Really ? What law did he sign that deregulated Wall Street ?

Liberal: Well, he stopped going after Wall Street and enforcing the laws we did have.

Conservative: Really, can you give specific example ? I'll help you out, how about Fannie May and Freddie Mac. Did he let them get away with bad practices ?

Liberal: No, he let the Wall Street guys get away with murder.

Conservative: Ok, again how about a specific instance ? Won't you agree that Fannie and Freddie, as the largest mortgage lenders in America, especially sub-prime loans, was at the center on the financial meltdown that occured in 2008.

Liberal: They had somethhing to do with it but Wall Street is more to blame.

Conservative: Ok, but you admit that they had a role. So who was defending Fannie and Freddie in 2005, 2006 ? Was it Bush or Barney Frank ?

Liberal: Barney Frank never defended Freddie and Fannie.

Conservative: Well, would you like to see the You Tube video of him doing just that ?

Liberal: I'm sure it's being taken out of context.

Conservative: Have you seen it ?

Liberal: No, but Bush was the President, it's his problem.

Conservative: Ok, Obama's the President now, so his spending is his problem.

Liberal: He's just trying to clean up the mess Bush left him with.

Conservative: So how is it going ? Is he having any luck with unemployment ?

Liberal: Unemployment has peaked, things are turning around.

Conservative: I thought Obama said the Stimulus would make unemployment peak at 8 percent ?

Liberal: Things were worse than anyone realized.

Conservative: Really, all those smart guys and gals ? When did they revise their estimates to show things were worse than thought ? What was worse than they thought ? What data points changed that showed things different than they thought ?

Liberal: I'm not sure but things were obviously worse than they thought.

Conservative: So you are assuming the Stimulus is working and that things must have been worse than thought to explain 10% unemployment ?

Liberal: Yes.

Conservative: Is there any chance things were exactly as estimated and it is in fact the Stimulus that caused things to get worse ?

Liberal: Nope.

Conservative: So you believe that deficit spending will casue the economy to grow no matter what ?

Liberal: You have to prime the pump.

Conservative: But then did'nt Bush prime the pump for the last 6 years of his administration ? Why didn't that prevent the recession ?

Liberal: Bushes spending wasn't designed to stimulate the economy.

Conservative: Really, so what is Obama spending money on the Bush didn't ?

Liberal: I don't know but it only makes sense that the Stimulus was designed to stimulate.

Conservative: But didn't Obama say that all spending is stimulative ?

Liberal: I'm sure you are quoting him out of context.

Conservative: So what was the context ?

Liberal: I don't know, I'll have to research it.

Conservative: Why don't we both watch the You Tube video and we can both see the context ?

Liberal: I don't care what Obama said. He won the elction and he gets to pass the laws he wants becasue he has a mandate.

Conservative: So he has a mandate to do what he promised to do, right ?

Liberal: Sure does.

Conservative: Like waiting 5 days to sign bills ? Like not hiring lobbyists ? Like holding the health care negotiations on CSPAN ? Like close Gitmo in a year ?

Liberal: He has had to modify some of his campaign promises because of GOP tactics.

Conservative: Really, what GOP tactic required him to sign laws immediately ? Or hire lobbyists ? Or keep Gitmo open ?

Liberal: He's kept most of his campaign promises. Everyone has a hard time keeping all of their campaign promises.

Conservative: Agreed, but can you name a promise has has kept ?

Liberal: He hasn't raised taxes on anyone making less than 250K.

Conservative: Are you sure about that ?

Liberal: Of course.

Conservative: What about the cigarette tax ?

Liberal: What about it ?

Conservative: Well, he raised those taxes by alot and anyone who smokes and makes less than 250K has seen their taxes raised.

Liberal: He meant income taxes.

Conservative: He never said income taxes, he just said taxes.

Liberal: I'm sure you are taking him out of context.

Conservative: How about we watch the You Tube videos and see if he ever said income taxes ?

Liberal: It doesn't matter becasue they don't effect everyone making less than 250K.

Conservative: oh, so that makes it ok to rasie taxes on some folks below 250K as long as it's not everyone below 250K. That doesn't break his promise ?

Liberal: Nope.

Conservative: Ok, I guess we'll just have to agree that Obama makes the sun rise each morning and the GOP makes it go down in the late afternoon.

Liberal: Exactly ...

So Remember:

Obama and liberals are always taken out of context ...
Bush did it ...
Liberals have no interest in history unless it makes a Conservative look bad ...
Liberals will make up history if it makes a Conservative look bad ...
Liberals will never actually do any math or research ...
Liberals believe in a zero sum economy ...
Liberals believe Bush was an idiot except when he was a evil genius ...

Many Liberals are well educated but willfully ignorant, which is worse than stupid. Stupid you have little control over, ignorance is a choice especially if you are educated.

and Jeff hits a grand slam ... (Below threshold)
zaugg:

and Jeff hits a grand slam with that comment. I am going to save that one...
btw, where oh where is that Stevie Green? Maybe he is gone forever to the land of trolldom, never to been seen or laughed at again.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ... (Below threshold)
914:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Oooopssyy! I was'nt supposed to laugh.

Little Stevie..Your infanti... (Below threshold)
914:

Little Stevie..Your infantilism is showing .

The whole tea party rally c... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

The whole tea party rally concept (AND the tea bag-in-mail campaign) was appropriated from the Ron Paul meta-campaign by the GOP to co-opt obvious populist impetus due to bipartisan crapulence in the wake of Bush-Clinton-Bush.

The problem: the RNC is run and supported by fatties, closet queens, draft dodgers, sit-at-homes, corn pones, and suits in thrall to multinational corporations. There is no recent history of the GOP/RNC supporting Constitutional or revolutionary movements in any methodical way. The honest tea party populists can be seen as Brangelina's PR Baby, perhaps from the Appalachian Mountains. Or as the King's Beard, the King being a depraved sodomite and secret Friend of Bill.

BryanD is showing his infan... (Below threshold)
Michael:

BryanD is showing his infantilism too. Why are libs so pathetic?

What did BryanD say? I kind... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

What did BryanD say? I kinda got lost after corn-pones...

A person's political identi... (Below threshold)
Frosty:

A person's political identification is a choice and can remain private whereas a person's skin color . . .

Liberals were calling all t... (Below threshold)
Flu-Bird:

Liberals were calling all those teabaggers as traitors becuase liberals have such srunken brains

zaugg.... "btw, where o... (Below threshold)
Marc:

zaugg.... "btw, where oh where is that Stevie Green?"

A wild ass guess... in the corner listening to his Adam Lambert CD? [while viewing a continuous video loop of "The Kiss" at the American Music Awards of 2009]

bryanD... the RNC is run, i... (Below threshold)
Marc:

bryanD... the RNC is run, in part according to you, by "draft dodgers?"

Disconnected from reality much?

corn pones? Bryan, I gotta... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

corn pones? Bryan, I gotta hand it to you. Your comments are a hoot.

Jay, your blog post is base... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

Jay, your blog post is based on sound logic (except for the incredibly amusing last line, which was just amusing). You know that logic doesn't work on liberal haters. If it did they wouldn't watch Keith Olbermann.

What did BryanD say? I k... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

What did BryanD say? I kinda got lost after corn-pones...

I couldn't understand him for the scrotum that was in his mouth.




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