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Cheney To Appear On ABC Sunday Morning: Liberal Pundits Prep The Battlefield

Vice President Dick Cheney will appear tomorrow morning on ABC's "This Week " and the folks at Politico are already trying to prep the battle field by framing his appearance as yet another replay of past Cheney interviews. MIKE ALLEN and JIM VANDEHEI somewhat apolegetically acknowledge Cheney's influence on the foreign policy and national security debates with this back handed compliment:

Former Vice President Cheney will appear on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday, and it's a safe bet what he will say: President Barack Obama projects weakness to terrorists and puts American lives at risk.

It's the kind of brutal charge -- nuance-free and politically explosive -- that has become a Cheney specialty since he left office 13 months ago.

Cheney's broadsides on Afghanistan policy, detention and surveillance policies, and Obama's general philosophy about the U.S. role in a dangerous world inevitably dominate the news. No other figure in Republican politics has equal ability to drive debate on national security, rally Obama critics and force the administration to respond. On Sunday, Vice President Joe Biden will be countering Cheney on NBC's "Meet the Press" and CBS's "Face the Nation."

There is one essential element missing from that analysis. Vice President Cheney communicates clearly a concern that the electorate has already manifested in recent elections, to wit, that terrorists don't deserve and should not receive the type of treatment the Obama Justice Department is advocating. He called Obama's hand early and often on the exceedingly unwise decision to close Guantánamo Bay before a solution as to where foreign detainees would be held was in place. He defended enhanced interrogation. These were more than mere national security debate points; they were deeply held concerns of citizens that turned out to vote against these Obama administration positions during the three major Obama policy plebiscites in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts.

While offering up a smattering of disaffected former office holders and moderate Republicans as foils for Cheney's blunt spoken opinions, Allen and Vandehei simply fall off the cliff when they invoke the names of Keith Olberman and Andrew Sullivan to disparage the former Vice president's very effective rebuttal of Obama's foreign policy failings:

In interviews for this article, some of Cheney's harshest critics said the origins of his Obama criticism may be more psychological than political. MSNBC's Keith Olbermann said in an e-mail to POLITICO that Cheney has been "shrill, totally unpatriotic and sounding more concerned with torture and interrogation than with results and intelligence."

"I think he may believe that only his vision can save America, and thus anything, including lying to America, is justifiable," Olbermann wrote. "This is, I believe, called 'a Messiah Complex.'"

Andrew Sullivan, who writes "The Daily Dish" blog on The Atlantic.com, wrote in an e-mail for this story: "Cheney's unprecedentedly aggressive approach ... reflects his own knowledge that he has committed war crimes of a very grave sort, war crimes that at some point could lead to prosecution and will undoubtedly lead to historical infamy."

Messiah complex? Oh, let there be no doubt, there is an epidemic of the messiah complex that frequently afflicts Washington, D.C. It has recently ravaged the minions of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and the Rayburn Building. But as with most symptoms of this condition, the afflicted are often the last to recognize their condition.

Dick Cheney and Sara Palin have, if nothing else, become a barometer for liberal fear and paranoia. Whenever they move the needle on the dial the commensurate reaction is predictable: their Democratic opponents become appoplectic and irrational.


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Biden has nothing to fear b... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

Biden has nothing to fear but fear itself. And Dick Cheney.

I just read that article 10... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

I just read that article 10 minutes ago. It occurred to me to ask why they don't just wait until Cheney actually SAYS something, rather than basing a three page web article on what he MIGHT say.

Olberman. Now there's a reliable witness from the creepy side. Some might say Olberman's quote describes himself better than Cheney. He is, many would agree, noted for being "shrill, totally unpatriotic and sounding more concerned with torture and interrogation than with results and intelligence." One might also suggest, with equal accuracy, that Olberman (and Obama hisself, for that matter) "may actually believe that only his vision can save America, and thus anything, including lying to America, is justifiable." This is, I believe, "called 'a Messiah Complex.'"

The comment fits Olberman better than Cheney. It's called projection. Olberman is actually worse than all he beholds.

Some sort of preventive detention might be a really good idea.

The reason Dick Cheney didn... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

The reason Dick Cheney didn't want to stay in office any longer is because all the extra scrutiny kept him from doing his favorite hobby: Prowling the streets at night punching hippies.

It's working too. How long has it been since you saw a hippie out at night?

Did Frank J suddenly take o... (Below threshold)

Did Frank J suddenly take over klrtz1's account?

"I just read that article 1... (Below threshold)
HughS:

"I just read that article 10 minutes ago. It occurred to me to ask why they don't just wait until Cheney actually SAYS something, rather than basing a three page web article on what he MIGHT say."

Same thing occurred to me. That's why I said they were prepping the battlefield. Or perhaps they are flinching in advance.

Though Dick Cheney left Was... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

Though Dick Cheney left Washington in 2009, Harry Reid still hasn't stopped wetting his pants.

Dick Cheney's gaze can kill small animals, including Joe Biden's hairpiece.

Dick Cheney, when he was presiding over the Senate, once ended a filibuster by ripping out a Senator's heart and showing it to him before he died.

The actual cause of global warming in the 90s: Dick Cheney's burning rage.

You can tell Dick Cheney is mellowing out now that he's getting older since global warming has stopped.

Former Vice President Ch... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Former Vice President Cheney will appear on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday, and it's a safe bet what he will say: President Barack Obama projects weakness to terrorists and puts American lives at risk.

Cheney would never make any such comments. That would be giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

But you see; Cheney has dev... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

But you see; Cheney has devoted himself to decades of public service. He should be lauded but he is denegrated for that service. Typical of the left. ww

Trust me Tina, the enemy al... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Trust me Tina, the enemy already knows Obama even before Cheney goes on TV.

Olbermann has no room to ca... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

Olbermann has no room to call anyone shrill. He is about as shrill as they come.

The reason they are attacking Cheney is because he is so effective. He knocks their sneaky gotcha questions out of the ball park and presents his arguments in a very unshakable and solidly fact back manner. The left falls way short when they try to argue the facts so they result to their old time
favorite technique of attacking the person.

Good post and heads-up.<br ... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Good post and heads-up.
Wizbang...timely?...*head rush*!

Setting...Tivo....NOW.

To give the Devil his due, he's either going to test an irradiation signal through coaxial cables nationwide (a'la Batman 1966), or he has something *interesting* to drop in Amerika's lap...hopefully not warm, heavy, and wet.

Obama is one of the politic... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Obama is one of the politicians that govern by polls. We know it, the left knows it and our enemy knows this. ww

Eeeeoo! Tivo says Dick will... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Eeeeoo! Tivo says Dick will discuss nat'l security (check.), foreign policy (check.), and... "health care" (wha-!?).

Please, please, please:

Let Dick Cheney's heart and Bill Clinton's heart have unprotected sex on teevee!

Please, please, please!

(It could usher in the Second Coming and the Crack of Doom!)

"Let Dick Cheney's heart... (Below threshold)
Steve Green:

"Let Dick Cheney's heart and Bill Clinton's heart have unprotected sex on teevee!"

Cheney's cold, shriveled heart is unable to perform any more.

And as bad as Bush's job approval rating were when he left keep in mind that Cheney's were even worse. This man has to be the most universally hated politician alive.

Stephanopoulos does a pretty decent job of not letting Republican liars like Cheney spin their BS unchallenged. It'll be worth watching just to watch Cheney try to squirm away from the truth.

And Cheney's predictable - so predictable - that it's fair sport for pundits to be predicting what he'll say.

So let's check and see if their predictions come true.

Former Vice President Cheney will appear on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday, and it's a safe bet what he will say: President Barack Obama projects weakness to terrorists and puts American lives at risk.

Cheney and the rest of the Bush administration knew how to scare their base into action. It's a recurring theme for Cheney.

Hugh: "There is one essential element missing from that analysis. Vice President Cheney communicates clearly a concern that the electorate has already manifested in recent elections, to wit, that terrorists don't deserve and should not receive the type of treatment the Obama Justice Department is advocating.

You're not suggesting that the Bush administration didn't try terrorists in the criminal justice system rather than sticking to military tribunals, are you? That's a lie.

There are probably less than a dozen cases against people in the Islamic jihadist framework who have been convicted in federal court of serious terrorism-related crimes comparable to many of the Guantanamo detainees, Greenberg said.

Nonetheless, there are some, she said, including Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber"; Bryant Neal Vinas, an American convicted of supporting al-Qaida plots in Afghanistan and the United States; Mohammed Jabarah, a Canadian who was active in al-Qaida and convicted of terrorism-related offenses; Shahawar Matin Siraj, a Pakistani-American who plotted to bomb Herald Square in New York; and Mohammed Junaid Babar, a Pakistani-American convicted of terrorist-related offenses in New York, and who testified in 2006 against a group of men accused of plotting bomb attacks in London.

And you're not suggesting that the Bush administration didn't also mirandize captured terrorists, are you? Because that's a lie too.

This "scandalous" policy actually began during the Bush administration. One of the worst mistakes the Bush administration made was paying absolutely no attention in the early days to building cases against the people it detained. Evidence was improperly collected or not collected at all. Statements were elicited through torture and other coercive means. So when the Bush administration later decided that it wanted to try its high-value detainees, it had virtually no evidence to work with.

So to build cases for trial, the Bush administration sent in FBI "clean teams" to re-interrogate suspects without reference to prior statements. Here's what the Washington Post reported on February 12, 2008:

The Bush administration announced yesterday that it intends to bring capital murder charges against half a dozen men allegedly linked to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, based partly on information the men disclosed to FBI and military questioners without the use of coercive interrogation tactics....

FBI and military interrogators who began work with the suspects in late 2006 called themselves the "Clean Team" and set as their goal the collection of virtually the same information the CIA had obtained from five of the six through duress at secret prisons.

To ensure that the data would not be tainted by allegations of torture or illegal coercion, the FBI and military team won the suspects' trust over the past 16 months by using time-tested rapport-building techniques, the officials said....

Officials said most of the detainees talked to FBI and military interrogators, some for days, others for months, while one or two rebuffed them. The men were read rights similar to a standard U.S. Miranda warning, and officials designed the program to get to the information the CIA already had gleaned by using waterboarding, which simulates drowning, and other techniques such as sleep deprivation, forced standing and the use of extreme temperatures.

Count on Cheney to do his best to paint Obama weak on national security and to criticize the decision to mirandize and try Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in criminal court -- when that's exactly what the Bush administration did in many, high profile cases, as noted above.

"Count on Cheney to do h... (Below threshold)
914:

"Count on Cheney to do his best to paint Obama weak on national security and to criticize the decision to mirandize and try Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in criminal court"

Obama is weak, so Dick can save on the yellow paint. Farouka salt should have been put out of our misery immediately upon landing if not sooner. Too waste money prosecuting this idiot is more Government waste.

"Stephanopoulos does a pret... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"Stephanopoulos does a pretty decent job of not letting Republican liars like Cheney spin their BS unchallenged. It'll be worth watching just to watch Cheney try to squirm away from the truth."-steve green

I have a funny feeling that this might be a Very Special Episode with little Stephan getting diddled on Uncle Ernie's---I mean, Uncle Dick's---lap.

Dick is adept at avoiding squirmable situations for himself. Stephanoupolus is nobody special. Hope I'm wrong. Will watch.

"Vice President Cheney comm... (Below threshold)
jswift:

"Vice President Cheney communicates clearly a concern that the electorate has already manifested in recent elections, to wit, that terrorists don't deserve and should not receive the type of treatment the Obama Justice Department is advocating..."

Umm, dare I say projection? Of an electoral kind?

sheesh, when will you people learn?

Cheney eats little puppies ... (Below threshold)
mpw280:

Cheney eats little puppies like steve green for breakfast, which is why liberals have to "prepare" themselves when they interview him. It is a no contest situation, Cheney will eat them for breakfast and shit them out by noon. The liberals couldn't answer the questions that they will put to Cheney but will try and act like they know more than he does, as if. As for lying, how is Obama doing, he is about 0 for 25 on campaign promises and yet little stevie green calls Cheney a liar, clean your own dog house first. mpw

s green "You're not s... (Below threshold)
Marc:

s green "You're not suggesting that the Bush administration didn't try terrorists in the criminal justice system rather than sticking to military tribunals, are you? That's a lie."

The military tribunal system to be used at GITMO was declared unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 2006 nitwit.

As a result in December 2006 the Military Commissions Act of 2006 was passed and authorized the establishment of military commissions.

The new law addressed objections identified by the U.S. Supreme Court in the June 2006 ruling then, and ONLY then they were established by the Department of Defense.

Note the dates asshat, military tribunals weren't LEGAL until AFTER 2006.

Now move along little boy, you're way, WAY out of your league.

"And as bad as Bush's jo... (Below threshold)
914:

"And as bad as Bush's job approval rating were when he left keep in mind that Cheney's were even worse. This man has to be the most universally hated politician alive."

And this dim witted observation~

"And Cheney's predictable - so predictable - that it's fair sport for pundits to be predicting what he'll say."


Ummm... Neither one are currently in office halfwit.. And if Cheney's so damned predictable why could'nt the legion of subversive troll asshat's unite and keep Him out of office in 2000-2008? I mean You had the roadmap? Or are You just in a state of shock at the blunder eared dunce You give lip service to here everyday?

I think Obama is the most hated politician alive..

Actually it wasn't until 20... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

Actually it wasn't until 2008 that the tribunal system cleared the last legal hurdle.

So, the argument goes: "Since we, the pro-terrorist anti-American Left, used the courts to thwart military tribunals for years, they weren't used while the court cases were being prosecuted; therefore, they cannot be used at all."

The Left represents the best case the Libertarians have for increasing domestic hemp production . . . we're gonna need the rope . . .

I hope Lord Cheney remember... (Below threshold)
914:

I hope Lord Cheney remembers His Shotgun.

"I hope Lord Cheney remembe... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"I hope Lord Cheney remembers His Shotgun."
22. Posted by 914

If it weren't for the return address (914, c/o Playtex Baby Bottle Corporation), I would assume that the use of "Lord" was satirical.

The administration... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:
The administration is projecting a $1.56 trillion deficit for the budget year ending Sept. 30.

Republicans mocked Obama for signing the "paygo" bill behind closed doors.

"With a simple stroke of his pen, President Obama now has the ability to continue his binge spending agenda to the tune of an additional $1.9 trillion, the largest one-time increase in our history," Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele said Friday. "Taxpayers will continue to foot the bill for the Democrats' fiscal irresponsibility."

Link

I wonder if Cheney will be asked about the deficit and spending? Probably he will have to just blurt out the truth about the deficit between interruptions.

Climategate U-turn... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:
Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

By Jonathan Petre
Last updated at 2:39 AM on 14th February 2010

[Professor Phil Jones] said that for the past 15 years there has been no 'statistically significant' warming. Link


I wonder if Cheney will get asked about global warming? Probably not.

"Stephanopoulos does a pret... (Below threshold)
Greg:

"Stephanopoulos does a pretty decent job of not letting Republican liars like Cheney spin their BS unchallenged. It'll be worth watching just to watch Cheney try to squirm away from the truth."-steve green

Before there was Rove or Axelrod, there was Stephanopoulos. steve probably thinks he's a real journalist.

Darth Cheney should do the ... (Below threshold)

Darth Cheney should do the weekend rounds every weekend...

The 0bama administration spends so much time and effort attempting to pre and post spin such appearances that, by appearing every weekend, Cheney would effectively hamstring the 0bama administration for the remainder of their single term.

Cheney knows the real deal.... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Cheney knows the real deal. He personally knows how the system works and who it should work for. The lefties can say we mirandize hundreds of terrorists but just saying it doesn't make it true. When real time intelligience is needed from a captured terrorist, they were not mirandized by GW Bush, they were taken care of in other ways. If someone goes to the airport and shouts "I have a bomb" and he is a proven loner with a lot of hate (Steve Green) then he is mirandized. Obama and the left thinks "one size fits all" and that is very dangerous. Obama has realized that but only on the political level. We are much more unsafe today then in years past. ww

"I hope Lord Cheney reme... (Below threshold)
914:

"I hope Lord Cheney remembers His Shotgun."
22. Posted by 914

If it weren't for the return address (914, c/o Playtex Baby Bottle Corporation), I would assume that the use of "Lord" was satirical. "
I was referring to His Lord of the darkside credential's Bryan.

"The Left represents the be... (Below threshold)
max:

"The Left represents the best case the Libertarians have for increasing domestic hemp production . . . we're gonna need the rope . . ."

Hey Jim Addison, what do you need the rope for? Or are you too much of a pussy to spell it out?

Coward.




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