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Point Blank: Is Obama Stupid?

I'm being absolutely serious right now. Listening to his speech on Health Care, he states that the only reform that Republicans have offered are "deregulation" and "starting over." As every single person who has spent any time on the Health Care, that is simply a lie. He is also promoting reconciliation, which he said was tyrannical just five years ago. Also, he clearly believes that people in white lab coats make his case stronger.

With the lies and the unarguable hypocrisy, I truly must ask whether Obama is stupid. What person with a shred of common sense or decency would do these things? Or is he just playing politics (poorly)?

One can argue that, to be elected President, Obama cannot be stupid. Yet, if you look around, the President is constantly being advised. If he makes a speech, he is surrounded by teleprompters. And if he doesn't have advisers or teleprompters around, he sounds like an idiot.

But then again, he did get himself elected to the Illinois Senate and he hasn't always had a large group of advisers. Maybe he's just playing awful, awful politics, aggrandizing himself while squashing resistance and the American people in the process. And he still sounds good with a teleprompter in his face; he clearly knows how to read.

Yet, this could all be a ruse. Maybe he's a diabolical genius out to destroy the United States. I don't personally adhere to such a conspiracy, but hey, with this guy its possible.

So what is he? An idiot, some one who's lost his way, or an evil genius?



Cross-posted at Jumping in Pools


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Idiot...and puppet!<p... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

Idiot...and puppet!

Or maybe he's a puppet because he's too stooopid to know who is pulling his strings.

Of course, that doesn't mean he's NOT evil...since I consider someone who wants to destroy the USA to be just that!

It's not difficult to get e... (Below threshold)
hermie:

It's not difficult to get elected to the Illinois Senate if you are a Democrat from Chicago and agree to be a Machine puppet.

I've seen no evidence that ... (Below threshold)
Hank:

I've seen no evidence that the man is that smart. His gaffes are numerous. His achievements nil.

But being that the so-called MSM never ever calls him on his duplicity, why would he care what he says now or has said before?

I do feel that he thinks the average american is stupid; this being a tenet of modern liberalism. And since we're all too damn dumb to appreciate the "gift" we have in the oval office, he'll say (or read) pretty much anything as if yesterday never happened.

You left out one very valid... (Below threshold)
itismedavid:

You left out one very valid alternative:

No, but he has a superiority complex and believes THE REST OF US are stupid.

You must look at how he won... (Below threshold)
mpw280:

You must look at how he won his elections in Chicago, he has all his competition thrown out on technicalities or had the press get sealed court docs unsealed on his republican opponent for the senate race, which caused his withdrawl. So he really hadn't won a contested election until he beat McCain. mpw

"What person with a shred o... (Below threshold)
Jeff Medcalf:

"What person with a shred of common sense or decency would do these things?"

False premise. You assume that he has common sense and decency. Neither wisdom nor decency is related to intelligence. He strikes me as at least average intelligence, and possibly quite above average, but terribly unwise and deeply indecent.

Barry thinks that anything ... (Below threshold)
MichelleIndependent:

Barry thinks that anything he says will be believed.

("Forget yesterday; what is Barry saying today?")

He thinks he is smarter than MSM and the American public.

Well, he probably is smarter than MSM because his lies go right over their heads.

But the average American citizen?

Guess again, Barry. We average citizens are far wiser than you!

You lie!

Why do you think I call him... (Below threshold)
wolfwalker:

Why do you think I call him "Barry Lackwit?"

He's not stupid. He's incom... (Below threshold)
Roy:

He's not stupid. He's incompetent and inexperienced, which just looks like full-blown stupid to the rest of us.

Actually, Barry is counting... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Actually, Barry is counting on the stupidity of the American people. Just remember, 52.3% voted for this imbecile! He knew he had ONE YEAR to cram all his socialist policies through Congress. "Stimulus" was a bust. Crap & Tax is dead in the Senate. Copenhagen was a bust. "Health Care Reform" has got to pass, or he's dead and a Lame Duck for the next two years. Desperate times call for desperate measures. If lying and bribery can't get your legislation passed, THEN CHANGE THE RULES. It's only going to ramp up until the Easter Recess -- and the last thing Barry wants in the Reps to go home and face an even more angry populace than they did last fall.

We're missing an option on ... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

We're missing an option on this 'net poll:

RON PAUL!!!!

I absolutely agree with iti... (Below threshold)
Highlander:

I absolutely agree with itismedavid. While it is not yet clear to me if Obama is stupid, it is a certainty that he thinks we are. And who can blame him? After all, we elected a radical socialist with absolutely no governing experience to the Presidency of the most powerful nation on earth - largely based on a whim.

Your poll needs an: A and B... (Below threshold)

Your poll needs an: A and B, but not C.

He's pretty smart but nowhe... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

He's pretty smart but nowhere near the 'sooper-genius' he and the MSM think he is.
This is what you get with Affirmative Action. Some people are so shocked that a Black can be 'clean and articulate' and 'speak without a negro dialect' that they mistake normal behavior for brilliance. Those people are bigots with low expectations.

If he makes a spee... (Below threshold)
Tina S:
If he makes a speech, he is surrounded by teleprompters. And if he doesn't have advisers or teleprompters around, he sounds like an idiot.

The man spent an hour and half answering any questions the republicans had, without the use of a teleprompter. This was during the republican retreat back in January. Watch it, Obama was top in form. You may disagree with his philosphy, but it would be hard to walk away from watching it and concluding he is not extremely intelligent.

He thinks he is a super-gen... (Below threshold)

He thinks he is a super-genius and that we're too stupid to understand how awesome he is -- both of which only prove how stupid he is.

In fact, I would say that b... (Below threshold)

In fact, I would say that believing Obama isn't stupid is about the surest sign of abject stupidity I have ever witnessed.

Listen. He's not a stupid ... (Below threshold)
Shawn:

Listen. He's not a stupid person.

That said, he's just not as smart as his PR flaks and media zombies would have us believe.

He is a master opportunist, though.

Unfortunately, it's many of the citizens of this nation who have demonstrated their stupidity by voting for an inept, incompetent, unqualified, self-aggrandizing, lying, political and ethical shell of a man to take control of the rudder and crash us onto a sandbar of despair.

Impossible to correct?

No.

Possible to make worse?

Yup.

Depends on whether or not the very people who beached us have the will to do what it takes to get us off.

-Shawn

What's stupid about outrage... (Below threshold)
Clint:

What's stupid about outrageous lies?

Most Democrats are so misinformed by the MSM these days that they believe those statements to be true.

Most Independents don't pay enough attention to care.

And most Republicans wouldn't vote for him anyway.

So... what's the penalty to saying thing like, "The Republicans have no proposal." and "My plan will reduce the deficit." and "If you like your plan, you can keep it." and "Those who have told you that abortion would be covered in this bill are liars." and so on...

(Now, I'll grant you his policy proposals are pretty stupid, and the political tactics he's using to try to pass his plans are ridiculous. But the lying doesn't seem that stupid to me, unfortunately.)

Tina S., he is unable to an... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Tina S., he is unable to answer the tough questions. He prepared for the retreat like he did or anyone would for a debate. That just makes his memorization skills good. Not an indicator of intelligience.

Obama thinks the electorate is stupid. Plain and simple. He is not a very deep, thoughtful man. You can capture who he is with one word: egomaniacal. ww

Yes, Obama is acting stupid... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Yes, Obama is acting stupid. That said, the word that describes the lack of intelligence is dumb. Being or acting stupid is not caused by the lack of intelligence but rather by the lack of wisdom or common sense. Obama is acting stupid because his core beliefs lack wisdom. Like most liberals, Obama's core beliefs flow from emotions and emotions flow from the most primitive part of the brain. Conservatives have these same emotions but have learned to give time proven principles preeminence over them.

To steal a line from Jamie ... (Below threshold)
pgg:

To steal a line from Jamie Lee Curtis in "A Fish Called Wanda:"

CALLING OBAMA STUPID WOULD BE AN INSULT TO STUPID PEOPLE!!!!"

Stupid? No.... (Below threshold)
SShiell:

Stupid?

No.

Arrogant and completely devoid of anything even remotley resembling honesty, integrity, or honor?

Yes!

@itsmedavid - That's what I... (Below threshold)
ravenshrike:

@itsmedavid - That's what I took President Obama is awesome to actually mean and so voted accordingly.

Obama five years ago, said ... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Obama five years ago, said reconcilation by at least 50 senators "was majoritorial absolute rule" -the tyranny of the majority- which you characterise as 'tyrannical'. Well any vote passed I suppose is tyrannical by defintion, unless it has full unanamity, the minority will have to abide by the result.

Obama is hardly 'promoting' reconciliation. He spent nearly a year trying to avoid it, by courting the 60th senator not the 50th.

BUT ALL POLITICIANS ARE HYPOCRITES, especially in opposition, where they don't see all the ramifications of their arguments, which time and the situation, may change.

Here is a perfect example, from that self -proclaimed straight talker, John McCain,

On the matter of "Don't Ask Don't Tell," Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) once promised that he would listen to "leaders in the military," telling people that the "day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says, Senator, we ought to change the policy, then I think we ought to consider seriously changing it".


You left out an option:... (Below threshold)
rory:

You left out an option:

Obama thinks the American public is stupid.

Tina S., he is unable to... (Below threshold)
Tina s:

Tina S., he is unable to answer the tough questions. He prepared for the retreat like he did or anyone would for a debate. That just makes his memorization skills good. Not an indicator of intelligience.

WildWillie,

It's not as if Obama was given the topics or questions in advance and it was not a typical moderated & heavily ruled debate. The republicans could ask any questions they wanted and spent an hour and half playing lets stump the president. It's not something one could cram for. Obama could not have done as well as he did without having an in depth understanding of the issues.

Tina, if they were real mea... (Below threshold)
epador:

Tina, if they were real meanies they would have asked him how many States are in our Union, or maybe how many people signed the Bill of Rights (oooooh a trick question).

he's clearly not stupid, no... (Below threshold)

he's clearly not stupid, nor is he any sort of genius (does anyone really think we wouldn't have seen his grades if they were all A's?).

what he is is a demagogue ("a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power" -Merriam-Webster) steeped in the arts of (dishonest) persuasion and manipulation from masters of the art to the extent that he was actually tasked with teaching others these techniques - it is the one job that he has experience in, is comfortable doing, and can do without thinking (most of us can handle the everyday duties of our jobs without thinking too hard about them, even when thinking is part of the job, you don't have to think about what you should be thinking about, if that makes sense).

the troubling thing is that he seems unable to learn any new skills, every challenge to the fulfillment of his desire (that would be remaking America into a pseudo-socialist land of equality (not opportunity) as he was taught to desire pretty much from birth by communists, marxists, new-agers, racists, and, ultimately, left-wing terrorists and crooks in Chicago) is a nail and the only solution in his toolbox is a hammer called demagoguery.

look at it from his side - it's gotten him this far - why would he change now? when he has failed at every other job he has had (his own description, not mine) he has moved on to something else...he now finds himself sitting atop the pile without the skills to do the job and has no freaking clue what to do about anything so he does the only thing he can do - attack his 'enemies'. he's like the guy at work that somehow gets attached to jobs but never does anything while managing to take a bunch of the credit, then one day he somehow finds himself in charge, hasn't learned anything about the company because he spent his time working the system and trying to talk himself into his next job instead of learning the business, has no clue what do to when the first crisis comes up and starts attacking the people that said he shouldn't have been put in charge to begin with...face it...Barack Hussein Obama is Tommy Boy, only less successful. They each have only one skill...persuasion. But Tommy was able to persuade people to do it his way because he was being honest, Obama is trying to persuade people with lies about his product and himself and eventually it is revealed that you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Tina S."The man sp... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Tina S.

"The man spent an hour and half answering any questions the republicans had, without the use of a teleprompter."

If that is your definition of intelligent then go to any bar toinght and I am sure you can find your definition of the Mensa club at any one of them. Just wait until they are on the 5th or 6th drink though.


Tina S""The man sp... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Tina S

""The man spent an hour and half answering any questions the republicans had, without the use of a teleprompter.""

Funny, before Obama the teleprompter subject never seemed to come up with any other President. I wonder why.

rm, you owe me a new laptop... (Below threshold)
epador:

rm, you owe me a new laptop!

Tina - Your observation is ... (Below threshold)
Andrew X:

Tina - Your observation is noted. It's actually kind of odd, because it is jarring to see that he IS (was at the time), very very smart and composed in that forum, and,y yet, has racked up a record of astonishing political incompetence virtually across the board.

I wonder if Obama is where he is because, what we saw at that GOP forum, is Obama doing the the ONE thing that he is good at!.

As has been noted, Obama had vitually no campaign experience, not to mention executive experience, when he ran. His toughest opponent so far (sure as hell not McCain) was Hillary, and it is worth pointing out that the Dems front-loaded their primaries, thus giving Obama one HUGE day after some early momentum, and then the entire primary story was of Hillary gradually gaining ground until the clock ran out on her. One more month, and she woulda won.

So now he is buffeted daily by questions and demands that he hasn't the slightest clue how to deal with, and boy does it show.

So, my bottom line is that he is between smart and stupid, but has no experience for his job at all, he has none of the flair that makes politics "an art, not a science", he has an appalling political tin-ear to anyone outside the academic left, and so far, I don't even see him growing into the job, like a JFK for example.

His election was for all of us the equivalent of waking up in Vegas next to a showgirl / Chippendale stripper with a cheap wedding ring on our finger, and then further finding out that this person is the last kind of person we would ever want to be married to to start with. And now we're kinda stuck, aren't we?

Saving grace: if we have to suffer a socialist in the White House, thank God it's an incompetent one.

Funny, before Obama the ... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Funny, before Obama the teleprompter subject never seemed to come up with any other President. I wonder why.

It seems that Obama is being held to a higher standard. For example, the subject of how long the president should wait to speak after a foiled terrorist attack never came up until the republicans accused him of waiting too long (3 days). As evidence of a higher standard, nobody brought this up after Bush waited 6 days before speaking about the shoe bomber.

"The man spent an hour and ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"The man spent an hour and half answering any questions the republicans had, without the use of a teleprompter. This was during the republican retreat back in January."

Glad you qualified that Tina. Because in his Thursday summit meeting, he came off as an idiot. And this was HIS "Signature" policy!

So, my bottom line is th... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

So, my bottom line is that he is between smart and stupid, but has no experience for his job at all, he has none of the flair that makes politics "an art, not a science", he has an appalling political tin-ear to anyone outside the academic left, and so far, I don't even see him growing into the job, like a JFK for example.

We'll have to wait and see if he becomes another JFK. Take the following with a grain of salt because JFK was a little before my time and I can not recall who made the satement I'm about to repeat. I think it was on MSNBC Hard Ball where one of the guests pointed that JFK did not have a good first year either.

No, he is not stupid.... (Below threshold)
Maddox:

No, he is not stupid.
He is cunningly EVIL.
His arrogance may cause us to believe he is inept but this is part of the plan to bring America to her knees so he can remake the country into a leftist dream.

One can be both stupid AND ... (Below threshold)
Saterp:

One can be both stupid AND evil...

Yes, he's stupid. He has s... (Below threshold)

Yes, he's stupid. He has some inborn intelligence but he's been coddled and carried his whole life by others. He has never been challenged to educate himself outside of learning some rote answers to questions. Why do you think his grades at college and at law school are sealed? Do you think they're hiding 'A's'?

As far as his "brilliant" responses to the Republicans in the open forum he held, he wasn't brilliant and he didn't have good responses. He used a well known debate tactic to turn the questions right back toward something that he knows and has memorized. I saw no signs of intelligence, I saw a slick public speaker who knows how to dazzle the gullible. But we all knew that.

Well, seeing as: Is Obama ... (Below threshold)
914:

Well, seeing as: Is Obama stupid? comes as close to describing him as the choices allow, I chose that one.

Notably missing were:

1. Is Obama a marxist

2. Is Obama the little horned anti-christ and

3. Is Obama the worst president evah!

I opt for #3


Its not so much that Obama ... (Below threshold)
LiberalNitemare:

Its not so much that Obama is stupid (although thats a contributing factor.)

It seems clear that Obama thinks WE are stupid.

You left out one v... (Below threshold)
bains:
You left out one very valid alternative:

...he ... believes THE REST OF US are stupid.

Spot on! When Pelosi says that a bill that has NO GOP support is actually bipartisan, it is fairly clear just how stupid she, and they, think the people are. It helps that the media wing of the Democrat Party (MSM) continually foists that narrative, and protects its party members from any consequence.

I think it was on MSNBC ... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

I think it was on MSNBC Hard Ball where one of the guests pointed that JFK did not have a good first year either.

Tina, JFK didn't have a good first year, nor a good second year, and of course a really bad third year.

Liberal iconography has made him a latter-day Lincoln. In fact, JFK was a poor President, who nearly got us all killed. At the 1961 Vienna summit he sufficiently underwhelmed Khruschev that the latter concluded he was a weak and inexperienced naif (remind you of anyone?) and decided to put missles into Cuba to put him to the test.

In 1962 we came within an RCH of nuclear war with the Soviets to undo the damage attributable to JFK. JFK got our asses back out of a sling because we had a mole in the Soviet government who informed us that the Soviets would back down if we took a strong stand. But it was a close-run thing. My father, a Marine officer, was on a transport plane with his men, awaiting orders to go to war. (True story.) So that was JFK's second year.

And of course, there was 1963, his third and last year. He was in Dallas to campaign, because he considered his re-election chances to be iffy.

I won't even get into the steel strike, nor Vietnam, nor Laos. Suffice it to say that JFK's reputation lies largely from having failed to duck at the operative moment.

incompogant (adj.) - incomp... (Below threshold)

incompogant (adj.) - incompetent + arrogant (see also: Obama, Barack)

If you believe Obama actual... (Below threshold)
davidt:

If you believe Obama actually believes the nonsense he spews is the truth, then the inescapable conclusion is yes, he is stupid.

If you believe he doesn't actually believe the nonsense he spews is the truth, then the inescapable conclusion is that he is a liar, but not necessarily stupid. Or smart.

All that said, I think he is a liar with a little bit of cleverness when it comes to manipulating others. Other than that little bit of cleverness I don't think he's very bright.

But then again one of my favorite ways to rile up a prog after he or she comments on how stupid GW Bush is is to say, "Or maybe you are stupid enough to believe his act."

@davidt agree! = flim-fla... (Below threshold)
itismedavid:

@davidt agree! = flim-flam man

"Stupid" is a gross underst... (Below threshold)
914:

"Stupid" is a gross understatement.

Obama's not stupid, in fact... (Below threshold)
Sean P:

Obama's not stupid, in fact he may be one of our smartest Presidents. Right up there with Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter.

Look, I applied to Law School and, while I'm white and din't enjoy an affirmative action bump even if I was I wouldn't have made it into Harvard. And my grades were nowhere good enough to make Law Review, let alone serve as Editor in Chief. So if you're just judging raw intellect, Obama probably usually is the smartest man in the room.

Obama's problem (and, with respect, where the "Obama is stupid" people are so off base) is he confuses knowledge with wisdom. Obama's smart, but he isn't the least bit wise, and he frankly doesn't even know what wise looks or sounds like, which leaves him rejecting a lot of bad advice to turn course until its pretty much too late. Kinda like Carter and Hoover, come to think of it.

Obamination is relatively i... (Below threshold)
gary gulrud:

Obamination is relatively intelligent but uneducated and uninformed, e.g., his mispronunciations of words like "Orion" the bright adolescent male knows unfailingly.

He's cunning enough to keep the military from alarm, ignoring Iraq, reluctantly pursuing Afghanistan(a campaign promise).

He is congenitally duplicitous, a fraud, a pretender by defect of nature. An emotionally abandoned child, his rejection by every one of his caretakers has resulted in a compensatory unbridled resort to self-esteem as his fundamental actuality, core truth.

He uses true description of outside reality to setup his listeners for the big lie, a description of his intent and behavior in diametric opposition to reality.

Obviously, this doesn't work when the scammed return, day in day out, to be played with the same tired game. Idiot savant.

We will see how stupid/smar... (Below threshold)
olsoljer:

We will see how stupid/smart he is in November.

Agree, Obama's problem is i... (Below threshold)
Bill Smith:

Agree, Obama's problem is ignorance. As an undergrad, he attended Occidental College and Columbia, graduating WITHOUT HONORS with a degree in political science. And he won't release his transcripts, which means that he took gut classes and got bad grades in them. So he therefore knows nothing of economics, mathematics, statistics, physical sciences and the other things that would help him to run a modern technologically advanced country. For that matter, his grasp of softer subjects, such as history, is pretty tenuous too.

All of this said, I think Obama is bright, probably with an IQ of 125 to 130. What he does not realize -- because of his ignorance -- is that there are millions of people in the U.S. with a higher IQ than his, and far greater knowledge to boot.

I imagine he figures, just ... (Below threshold)
Tammy:

I imagine he figures, just because half the people in the nation were dumb enough to elect him that he can go on with even dumber ideas because the simpletons will buy into them. Not so. When people get hit in the wallet, it makes those simpletons' freebies dry up and then they wake up and say, "What happened?!" That's when they convert from being dummies to well-informed citizens. They come to realize that NOTHING is free.

Obama's stupid in that he believes his own hype. One can't expect much more from a person who never learned from history what doesn't work.

"So what is he? An idiot, s... (Below threshold)
Steve D:

"So what is he? An idiot, some one who's lost his way, or an evil genius?"

Neither, he is something far more dangerous: a true believer.

I dont think Obama is st... (Below threshold)
MF:

I dont think Obama is stupid I think he is mentally unstable.




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