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When the Obama administration and the Democrats proposed legislation that reduced the tax deductions for charitable donations down to 28 cents on the dollar earlier this year, I was highly perplexed. I thought this beacon of hope and change would be on the side of those who give money to noble causes. I just could not figure out why on Earth this President would penalize charitable donations.

As we sit here amongst the wreckage of the monstrosity that was passed by Congress last night, I can't help but think that this country may be on the verge of a serious uprising. While many Americans are far too docile to ever stand up to their out-of-control government, a few Constitutional purists may put up a fight.

It still hasn't sunk in with many of us, but last night our government passed legislation that will force citizens to pay for the lying-in-wait murder of other people's not-yet-born children. I know... the so-called pro-life 'Rats procured a promise. But let's be honest. All we have is a piece of paper for a non-binding executive order from the most pro-abortion president in the history of our nation. There exists a strong likelihood that Mr. Obama's promise will be as good as the one about all bills being on C-SPAN.

If this happens... if Americans are forced to pay for the abortions of other citizens... that may push some of us to the brink. Maybe some will simply refuse to pay their taxes. Possibly others will seek other solutions they can live with. I've prayed over the matter and have made my own decisions. I would have loved to have the option of donating a large amount of money to charity in an effort to significantly reduce my tax obligation. It will cost my family a lot of money, but maybe we can reconcile this horrific moral dilemma. But Mr. Obama has been thinking this out in advance. Now I fully understand why he wants to slash the tax deductibility of charitable donations.


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Forcing American Christians... (Below threshold)
BlueNight:

Forcing American Christians to sacrifice children to the god of personal convenience. How many will stand up? Will I?

"I for 2 just could not ... (Below threshold)
914:

"I for 2 just could not figure out why on Earth this President would penalize charitable donations."


Because it felt good!! And beyond that the proceeds did not go to his pocket..!! For this ego driven thug thats blasphmy!!

This is a terrible moral di... (Below threshold)

This is a terrible moral dilemma.

I can't support the public funding of abortion but I also can't support, in principle, any individual personally deciding which federal policies they will support.

As I can't deny that a sincere pacifist, for instance, may well be unable to agree, on moral grounds, to their tax dollars funding wars.

If I am to be morally consistent; if I maintain that a pacifist may not abstain from their taxes going to support wars without the consequence of jail, then I can't justify, because of abortion, the non-payment of taxes, without agreeing to the same consequence of jail for myself...

So what am I to do?

Try to change the law. Failing that, then jail awaits me. I cannot be part of a society that kills the unborn, the most innocent among us, and forces me to participate.

"Try to change the law. ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Try to change the law. Failing that, then jail awaits me. I cannot be part of a society that kills the unborn, the most innocent among us, and forces me to participate.


Im with you!

There has to be a line that wont be crossed and they've gone way out of bounds with this self indulgent power grab!! Maybe the not so innocent need a rude awakening.


We should know their souls ... (Below threshold)
Don L:

We should know their souls long before they spew their deceit. Why, we should have said, should we believe one stinking word you promise to put on paper, when you have lived you public lives loathing, ignoring and shredding the most valuable paper of all times (except for the bible) the constitution of the United States? You laugh at it - you call it flexible - living document. You twist it for the rights to murder Nature's God's own creations through faux penumbras you pretend to find. The God of all good that you diabolically show such open distain for.
Why should we not know from the very beginning that Obama's reduction of tax benifits through charity was simple a manuver -the first of many -to destroy private charity -forcing all citizens to become dependent upon the almighty government.
I'll say it again and again: why would anyone trust for a atom-split second people who are cruel enough to fight for the right to kill a baby after it is born by withholding all nutrition and water? This open act of evil ranks up there with the treatment of our GI's On the Bataan Death March and the evils wrought by Dr. Mengale upon innocent Jews and Poles.
Why would we do anything but seek to remove these people from power and keep them away from it forever?

"I can't support the public... (Below threshold)
Don L:

"I can't support the public funding of abortion but I also can't support, in principle, any individual personally deciding which federal policies they will support."

Think it out a bit further GB and you will realize that with this staatement you've eradicated "conscience" and have given legitimacy to any in the Nazi death camps moral permission to do evil. Yours is the very wrong that they used at Nurenberg -"I was merely following orders (the government made me do it!)

I pass along this link for ... (Below threshold)
DaveD:
I was laughed at by one of ... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

I was laughed at by one of our trolls a good while back for saying the government was consciously usurping the role of the individual in caring for and helping others who needed it. Taxing charitable donations is but one step in that pursuit. If people are discouraged from being charitable of their own volition then it will become the government's sole domain to be charitable.

Over the years, when one was asked to give for this or that charity, how many times have you heard that person say "that's what my taxes are for"? It's a conditioning. And some (not all) of those who receive such charity from the government are relieved of the burden of being thankful to an individual or a specific charity. They don't feel like they owe the government anything in return.

Our government is slowly but surely amassing all that power over individuals and there are more and more who would help them in that endeavor.

We're heading toward a point where only the "rich" will be able to donate. And the government will will demonize and tax the rich until no one donates.

I am an atheist, have been ... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

I am an atheist, have been since I was 15, so my take on public funding of abortion is not driven by religious motivations. On moral grounds I object to public funding of more than basic services for the truely indigent. I would also object to any funding of treatments of diseases caused by smoking, drug use or alcohol. Anything that incentivizes irresponsible behavior is immoral. Public funding of abortion certainly falls into that category.

Day Two: No word from the ... (Below threshold)
dnb:

Day Two: No word from the US Council of Catholic Bishops. No phone call from Cardinal Francis George or Brad Ellsworth's pastor.

Your analysis of Obama's mo... (Below threshold)
Andrew X:

Your analysis of Obama's motives for slashing charitable deduction rights is essentialy correct, but possibly even a bit simpler than that.

What are his reasons? Simple. Charities essentially operate outside of government control, and thus such behaviour is an inherent abomination, that must be stamped out wherever it may manifest itself.

Has anyone ever heard so much as one word of praise or understanding from this president of any American activity not run by the federal government? Even one word? Has he ever foregone even one opportunity to advance federal power into yet another sphere of our lives, foregone it on the basis of "this really is something the govenment has no place being" or similar sentiment? Ever even once?

No, there really are no pieces to put together to nail down his motives. One might just as easily ask a lion what his motives are in stalking that zebra.

It's just what they do, and what they are about.

And we are the zebra.

If I have to pay for thier ... (Below threshold)
914:

If I have to pay for thier GD abortions they can pay for a trip or two to the casino for Me..

Andrew X - I agree complete... (Below threshold)
MikeNC:

Andrew X - I agree completely. Everything they do is about control and money. They don't give a damn about our healthcare either. They only care about control over us.

"When the Obama administrat... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"When the Obama administration and the Democrats proposed legislation that reduced the tax deductions for charitable donations down to 28 cents on the dollar earlier this year, I was highly perplexed."

Why perplexed? Every study ever done has shown that LIBERALS give the LEAST in charitable deductions. And EVERYONE KNOWS that Democrats don't pay taxes anyway. At least the one's holding public office. Just ask Timmy, Rangel and the Kennedy's.

"I can't support the public... (Below threshold)

"I can't support the public funding of abortion but I also can't support, in principle, any individual personally deciding which federal policies they will support."

"Think it out a bit further GB and you will realize that with this statement you've eradicated "conscience" and have given legitimacy to any in the Nazi death camps moral permission to do evil. Yours is the very wrong that they used at Nuremberg -"I was merely following orders (the government made me do it!)" DonL

I'm certainly willing to give it further consideration but perhaps I wasn't clear Don.

I was talking about taxes.

I pointed out (perhaps unclearly?) that I don't have the option of not paying my taxes in opposition to publicly funded abortion because I don't extend that right to others who are just as sincere as I but with whom I differ. Such as a pacifist; one who is totally opposed, regardless of provocation, to any war.

If I believe, (and I do) that a pacifist can't refuse to pay their taxes out of sincere, deeply held moral objections to war's taking of innocent lives, then how can I assert that I have that right over public funding of abortion?

Each involves the taking of innocent life.

War inevitably takes the lives of innocent people. Regardless of a particular wars necessity, engaging in any war entails the conscious acceptance that you are condoning the taking of innocent lives.

My acceptance of wars necessity doesn't preclude my recognition of the price innocents will pay in that war.

I've indicated my acceptance that jail may await me because I will not pay for the taking of a baby's life. So, I think my moral conscience is satisfied that I am not 'eradicating conscience' nor following the moral path of the Nazi following orders.

If I'm missing something, I welcome it being explained because I sure don't want to go to jail.

Or some may decide to "take... (Below threshold)
mojo:

Or some may decide to "take it out of the Government's behind"...

"A properly planned and executed theft is also a form of communication"

I just could not figure ... (Below threshold)
Mike G in Corvallis:

I just could not figure out why on Earth this President would penalize charitable donations.

Everything Obama's been doing is consistent with this objective: He's trying to delegitimize the concept of private action. In his eyes, the only "legitimate" entity is the government, or a puppet of the government. So private charities are out -- how dare they suggest that any entity other than the government can benefit people? Small busineses and family farms are being hobbled by regulations that big businesses (think General Motors and Archer Daniels Midlands) can more easily comply with or can ignore completely.

Individualism is evil. There must be only the wise, all powerful god/state.

Geoffrey. Your premise may ... (Below threshold)
Don L:

Geoffrey. Your premise may be moral. I didn't take isssue with that.

I just your found a problemn with your statement that clearly says that we should not select which laws we will follow. I insist moral people will do, and need to do, otherwise when evil laws are codified.

The penalty for doing so, or willingness to accept it was never an issue.

Geoffrey,One diffe... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

Geoffrey,

One difference in your examples, declaring war is codified in our Constitution. A true pacifist could renounce their citizenship or work to have the Constitution amended to preclude war. I cannot recall hearing of such.

OTOH, our Declaration of Independence addresses 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness'. Aborted babies are deprived of all three.

I see a big difference between your two examples.

If this (non-sequitur) post... (Below threshold)
Caesar Augustus:

If this (non-sequitur) post truly is representative of what religious conservatives are thinking, then we've got problems as a country that go far beyond the insanity of the far left.




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