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Why Are House Democrats Whining Already?

Having passed ObamaCare knowing that a majority of voters oppose the legislation, Democrats in Congress are announcing themselves martyrs already simply because some nuts have allegedly made threats against them. House Majority Leader Stenny Hoyer is leading the pre martyrdom parade by asking House Republicans to denounce the imaginary threat, confident that willing dupes in the media will join him the charade:

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts -- and he wants Republicans to stand up and condemn the threats.

The Maryland Democrat said more than 10 House Democrats have reported incidents of threats or other forms of harassment about their support of the highly divisive health insurance overhaul vote. Hoyer emphasized that he didn't have a specific number of threats and that was just an estimate.

Fortunately Minority Leader John Boehner cleared up the confusion and told the Majority Leader, in a way, to find a pair:

"I know many Americans are angry over this health care bill, and that Washington Democrats just aren't listening," Boehner said. "But, as I've said, violence and threats are unacceptable. That's not the American way. We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change. Call your congressman, go out and register people to vote, go volunteer on a political campaign, make your voice heard -- but let's do it the right way."

I think what has some Democrats like Bart Stupak scared silly is that voters in his own district, and supporters from a constituency he has conned and manipulated for years, have figured out he is a liar, and a bad one. Man up Bart, go home and take the heat. Now that you have become a verb in the political dictionary you can take the good with the bad or better yet, resign. The imaginary violence the Democratic Whiners really fear is what Boehner is recommending: some good old fashioned Democracy, which is on its way in November. All the posturing about threats and violence are a pretense. These Democrats know they are going to get in November some of what Baron was talking about this morning, and they're already complaining. The fact that they aren't acting like winners says they know they are losers.


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House Majority Leader St... (Below threshold)
wolfwalker:

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts

Question 1) should anyone be surprised by this?

Question 2) should anybody give a damn?

Because I'm not and I don't.

WHY ARE THEY WINE-ING? Bec... (Below threshold)
914:

WHY ARE THEY WINE-ING? Because they are professional grade treasonous sell-outs that couldn't cut the mustard in Hollywood, so they chose to fuck us all ala Love American Style,.

I don't doubt that many dem... (Below threshold)
jim m:

I don't doubt that many dems received threats of violence. And yes that's unacceptable. But so what? I am sure they receive all sorts of lunatic threats and suggestions daily.

They want to preemptively characterize opposition as unhinged and violent. Unfortunately for them they already know that the opposition has geared up big time for the fall elections. They see their opposition candidates making huge gains in donations. People are energized as I have never seen.

The dems are already doing damage control. They know they are screwed. Too bad for them.

Next somebody will make a m... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

Next somebody will make a movie about assassinating a real sitting President...and release that movie while that President is still in office!

What? They did that while Bush was President?

Never mind.

How many House Democrats ha... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

How many House Democrats have denounced the threats of violence against Ann Coulter?

I bet ... none.

They are lucky they only br... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

They are lucky they only broke the trust of their constituents. If they had broken the trust of the Mafia, well, you know how that ends up. I have no sympathy for them. The ONLY thing they have to do is represent their voting constituency. When they no longer do that, then they must be forced to move on.

Alright, I'll simplify My s... (Below threshold)
914:

Alright, I'll simplify My strategeous comment in the light of a blooming idiot like someone with the initials SG that may or may not so choose to comprehend?

THEY GET PAID FOR IT!!!

Nutswab

Strike first and pay the gulf shark some other time.

Well, let's see--the Congre... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

Well, let's see--the Congressional Black Caucus has already rolled out the racism ploy with an unproven claim. Next step--unproven threats of violence.

After that, I expect the Capitol to burn down, and Obama to blame the Tea Party and Conservatives, suspend the Constitution because of the dangerous situation, cancel future elections, and disband the Congress.

"Hoyer emphasized that he d... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"Hoyer emphasized that he didn't have a specific number of threats and that was just an estimate."

Yeah, and I'll bet under further investigation, not only does Hoyer NOT have a specific number of threats, he has NO SPECIFIC THREAT EITHER.

Hey Sten! "I won't vote for you!" is not a THREAT! IT'S A PROMISE!

"How many House Democrats h... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"How many House Democrats have denounced the threats of violence against Ann Coulter?"

But conservatives are evil and deserve to be threatened and sent to re-education camps or worse.

As Sen Dingel said today the purpose of this is "to control the people." The next step is to silence opposition.

Expect that since criticism of Obama is becoming widely spread, the MSM will circle the wagons and defend their messiah from all criticism.

Democrats threatened?... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Democrats threatened?

Are they talking about the threats from Pelosi and Obama to the ones who were going to vote against health care?

This is why most military p... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

This is why most military personnel are conservative. Liberals just do not have the brass that it takes to stand up for themselves. ww

I wonder if Obama and the d... (Below threshold)
retired military:

I wonder if Obama and the dems will decry this

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/03/24/james-cameron-shoot-climate-deniers-glenn-beck-f-hole-0

"Avatar" director James Cameron
said at a news conference yesterday that he would like to shoot "those boneheads," referring to skeptics of anthropogenic global warming. "Anybody that is a global warming denier at this point in time has got their head so deeply up their a** I'm not sure they could hear me," Cameron added.

Gee sounds like a democrat inciting violence. MSM chirp chirp chirp.

BTW want to talk about viol... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW want to talk about violence.

The last time some democrat in the Texas Senate talked about a state income tax there were shots fired through the windows of the state capital building. I dont believe the issue has been raised again.

Leftists have always advoca... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Leftists have always advocated violence against the rest of us.

They openly advocated the assassination of GW Bush and then when called on it claimed "dissent is the highest form of patriotism". Note that today the answer is, "the people voted for change so they should just shut up."

They do not believe in a right or wrong, they say that such things are all relative. They believe that anything including murder is acceptable as a means to their ends.

They will lie and frame their opposition as racist as the congressmen did this week, or as happened at UCSD and Columbia U.

They will do anything they can conceive of to win no matter how dishonest or illegal.

Expect their abuse of the polls to be epic this fall. If you thought Holder's looking the other way with the Black Panthers was bad, expect him to be openly abetting their outright violence against whites this fall.

Note that the lefty lurkers... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Note that the lefty lurkers are willing to down vote every post here but not willing to come out and denounce the racial demagoguery and promotion of violence that we have mentioned here.

iwogisdead - "Next step... (Below threshold)
Marc:

iwogisdead - "Next step--unproven threats of violence."

"Next step," iwogisdead flys off into the Deep-End makiing wild unsubstantiated assertions!

Of course I'd be glad to retract that when and if you prove it. But I won't interrupt my normal respiration rate waiting.

That said, Bush and his supporters were the target of many threats both real and imagined for 8 years up to and including the "assassination" movie noted above.

What goes around comes around, but it should remain as a rhetorical devise not in actual threats to persons or property.

Wow! I remember reading of ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Wow! I remember reading of a time when the head of our government abused the citizens one too many times and most of the US took up arms to throw him out. In fact, they were called patriots, founding fathers, wise men. ww

Promoting a film about a si... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Promoting a film about a sitting president's assassination is beyond the norm. Putting a crosshair/sniper's target on his head and the script "assassins wanted" was beyond too.

You tepid remarks are just more of the same equivocating.

There has been NO objective proof of ANY of these claims. Like the claims of racial epithets that have been disproven by multiple videos of the event these claims are nothing but BS.

I don't think I would worry... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

I don't think I would worry about those who make threats. However they might get a little concerned about the rest of us who do not make our wishes known.

Perhaps the "death threats"... (Below threshold)
Harmon:

Perhaps the "death threats" were couched as wishes that, should they ever become ill, they would be subject to treatment under Obamacare just like the rest of us. I could see where even the thought of a fate so heinous would cause a member of Congress to feel their life was threatened.

/sarc

"Next step," iwogi... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:
"Next step," iwogisdead flys off into the Deep-End makiing wild unsubstantiated assertions!

Let me guess--you flunked Fourth Grade Spelling?

10-1 that those alleged dea... (Below threshold)
Stan:

10-1 that those alleged death threats came from the people that work for them or they ginned them up to get some face time. This is all a ploy to gain sympathy for the Dems and their Health care boondoggle. They know that the American people are against this huge pile of shit and want this to be repealed. Believe me, the truth will come out in the wash. Just as with John Murtha and his accusations against the Marines in Haditha, it will hurt them more than anything that the Tea Party people and other groups will ever do. In the end, this episode will be swept under the carpet as others were, when the real culprits are found out.

When you spit in the people... (Below threshold)
Trump:

When you spit in the people's faces, you should fear for your safety.

If any Dem is the victim of violence, they have it coming. I don't condone it....but I won't condemn it either

They're on their own

To the displaced Republican... (Below threshold)
Jose:

To the displaced Republican righties of 2004, who are reclaiming their spot under the title of the Teaparty as the GOP's voice and "grassroots."

Thank you for the health care bill. Truly. Your wingnut demonstrations of intolerance and rabidity, your hyperbolic Chicken-Littleisms and sheer nastiness helped us pass the health care bill.

Showing up at rallies with sidearms? Spitting on Reps? Calling out statesmen as "fags" and "niggers?" Please, please, don't stop.

We liberals need you in 2010, and again in 2012.

If you detect any irony in this, you are wrong. I am a true liberal (probably left of every Dem in the Senate). I have watched you fools help our causes all year. The precious center-independent voting block is running for the hills from the GOP. Thanks to you loony bastards.

And, no, I am not a "ward of the State." I am in an income bracket that will be taxed more severely under the health plan. I simply believe that I owe it to my fellow man to give back.

The last time some... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:
The last time some democrat in the Texas Senate talked about a state income tax there were shots fired through the windows of the state capital building.

Upon further investigation, Austin police said the shots apparently came from inside the building and were therefore none of their concern. "Damn Republicans," one officer was heard to exclaim, "can't they argue anything without waving around a damn firearm?"

I simply believe t... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:
I simply believe that I owe it to my fellow man to give back.
And that's why you're forcing everyone to give back. With the IRS as the collection agency. Hypocrite.
Don't worry democrats. It w... (Below threshold)
dom youngross:

Don't worry democrats. It will be quick and painless. We'll put you out of our misery at the voting booth, starting in November.

I'm not buying it. The "vio... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

I'm not buying it. The "violence" against Slaughter was a brick through the window of her empty office in Niagara Falls (and by the way, did Pelosi decry that kind of violence committed against the Marines in San Fransisco?).

"...reported incidents of threats or other forms of harassment", a constituents statement to work to kick their representative out of office falls within that statement.

Time for them to grow a pair or leave the field.

A US politician getting dea... (Below threshold)
CDR M:

A US politician getting death threats? Really? Is this like the first time that has happened? Oh my. Seriously, if this was real the SS would be all over it. Let's see the emails, letters, listen to the calls and then see where the investigation goes.

25.Since you are kno... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

25.
Since you are knowingly dispensing untruths then there is no need to read any more of your comments. Comment again when you obtain some credibility, okay?

This was planned. Th... (Below threshold)
Hank:

This was planned.
They know the MSM will simply parrot the charges.

They're trying to deflect attention from the bill they just passed and put their critics on the defensive.

On Hoyer's remarks, what exactly does "or other forms of harassment' mean?

No doubt not agreeing and nothing more.

"And, no, I am not a "ward ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"And, no, I am not a "ward of the State." I am in an income bracket that will be taxed more severely under the health plan. I simply believe that I owe it to my fellow man to give back."

Now pardon me while I pull the AxelTurf out of my ass.

Jose

Jose, did you know you coul... (Below threshold)

Jose, did you know you could help people without Congress passing a law requiring you to help them?

So tell us, how much have you been giving VOLUNTARILY to help all these poor people you pretend to care so much about.

If Jose isn't a ward of the state, he ought to be. With a nice canvas coat that fastens in the back.

BTW, just as a heads-up, I ... (Below threshold)

BTW, just as a heads-up, I suspect the person commenting as Jose is hoping someone here uses some kind of racial slur against him.

And if no one here obliges I'm fairly sure he'll use another name to do it himself.

Jose [can't you see?] - <em... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Jose [can't you see?] - "I simply believe that I owe it to my fellow man to give back."

Well good for you, but under the new law everyone has to give back AND at a rate they may not be able to afford.

iwogisdead - "Let me gu... (Below threshold)
Marc:

iwogisdead - "Let me guess--you flunked Fourth Grade Spelling?"

Now that's funny, your lack of reasonable response puts you in the libturd camp whether you are in truth or not.

Congrats, you've become pelosi!

"Next step," iw... (Below threshold)
"Next step," iwogisdead flys off into the Deep-End makiing wild unsubstantiated assertions!
Marc, he didn't claim they were no threats -- only that they're unproven.

What's "wild" about that?

Excuse me, but by passing t... (Below threshold)
JSchuler:

Excuse me, but by passing the healthcare bill, the Democrats have PROMISED to use violence on people that don't buy insurance. Seems merely threatening violence in return still makes the opponents their moral betters.

Threatening a federal offic... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

Threatening a federal official is a federal crime. The FBI should investigate every recorded threat, interview the staffers who received the threats, and trace any threats which came over the internet. With the Patriot Act, they will have no trouble at all tracing most of the culprits.

I wonder how many cases they are working on already? Have all these allegations aired in the media been referred to the FBI for investigation? If not, WHY NOT?

Let justice be done.

"And, no, I am not a "wa... (Below threshold)
914:

"And, no, I am not a "ward of the State." I am in an income bracket that will be taxed more severely under the health plan. I simply believe that I owe it to my fellow man to give back."

Hey!! Ward Cleaver! Give Me all your money and I love you forever!

THEY ARE CRYING BECAUSE THE... (Below threshold)
poptoy:

THEY ARE CRYING BECAUSE THEY ARE A BUNCH OF BIG ASS BABIES.

Listen, I'm as appalled as ... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

Listen, I'm as appalled as anyone that anyone would threatened physical harm, but you'd think none of them have never been threatened before. This is the first time - ever. Why one might think Republicans have never gotten a death threat and all George Bush ever got was a threat to make him the subject of a tickle party.

Like Jim said, find them and prosecute. Whining won't get anything done.

The dems didnt listen to th... (Below threshold)
retired military:

The dems didnt listen to their constituents on the HC vote why are they starting to listen now?

"I simply believe that I... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

"I simply believe that I owe it to my fellow man to give back."

Then go ahead, Jose, but you don't have the right to force ME to give to what YOU want funded!

Threatening a fede... (Below threshold)
Stan:
Threatening a federal official is a federal crime. The FBI should investigate every recorded threat, interview the staffers who received the threats, and trace any threats which came over the internet. With the Patriot Act, they will have no trouble at all tracing most of the culprits

Where was the FBI and the rest of the federal law enforcement people, when the same people that are doing the whining now, were making death threats against George W Bush and the Republican members of Congress? They sure the hell was not on the job then. I can think of several instances where W was directly threatened and not one arrest was made.

Now that Obama is the Prez, people get arrested for sporting a bumper sticker on their car, saying no to health care. Seems that the Dems are the ones that should be investigated for all kinds of infractions, but they always get a pass from the federal law enforcement community when it comes to shit like this.

As I stated above, these shenanigans are emanating from inside the Democrat party and the MSM is playing it like a Stradivarius. This strategy will also backfire on the Dems, once the the truth comes out, like it always does in things like this. The people are getting wise to the Dems and their cry baby tactics and will hopefully boot them all out.

I remember when that hatche... (Below threshold)

I remember when that hatchet face Rhandi Rhodes simulated gun fire at Pres Bush and I recall the left not having too big a problem with it.

We're going to hear more fabrication, exaggerations and lies because the whole intellectual foundation between those big dumbo ears of the former crack head are built on lies, radical suppositions and failed but specious theories taught by greasy haired drugged malcontents who are as worthless to society as the idiot who thinks he's King.

Screw the sniviling bastsrd... (Below threshold)
just bob:

Screw the sniviling bastsrds and hose a too.




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