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The big hysteria going around now is how some of the Congresscritters who voted for ObamaCare are getting threats now. I suppose I should put on my grown-up pants and denounce all threats of violence related to politics, but I have to admit I'm pretty much inured to them by now. Quite frankly, my threshold of perceived threats is pretty high.

I come by it honestly. In 1992, I was razzing some Pat Buchanan supporters in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire right before the primary when one of them brought up the novel debate tactic of offering to throw me through a nearby plate glass window. I declined the honor.

More recently (and less personally), I've been through the first eight years of the current century (what others might call the 2nd Bush administration) and I saw plenty of it. Plenty of it targeted against the right, and there was never the hue and cry we're hearing nowadays.

I recall an effigy of Sarah Palin being hanged off some idiot's house.

I remember a parking lot full of vehicles Republicans had rented for "get out the vote" use in Milwaukee getting their tires slashed -- by some rather well-connected young Democrats employed by the Kerry campaign.

I remember Carlos Mantos, a Democratic Party official in Philadelphia, turning away Republican poll watchers, arguing that his district was 100% Democrat, so they had no business there.

I recall two armed Black Panthers stationing themselves outside another Philadelphia polling station, making sure that every white voter knew that The Black Man was gonna win.

I remember "community organizers" organizing protest "field trips" to the homes of top banking executives, making sure that all their people knew precisely where these people lived.

And I remember seeing actual protests featuring actual idiots armed with actual torches and pitchforks.

So, I'm not going to make an effort to condemn these threats of violence. Instead, I'm going to try a different tactic:

Hey, Democratic members of Congress. I don't speak for anyone, really, but I'm one of those largely moderate-to-right-leaning citizens and voters. I've been to a Tea Party rally, and I don't like what you're doing. But I don't care for these threats of violence.

Right now, those are coming from a very, very small portion of the larger group to which I belong. And the fact that they're a minority means you don't have to worry about huge mobs coming after you.

Yet.

Right now, Democrats, we reasonable, responsible members of the "right" are all that is standing between you and the nutjobs. Right now, we're doing a fairly good job of keeping the nutjobs from taking more direct action. Right now, we're the ones who are arguing that we can trust the system, that it will work, that this nation and its system of governance are not hopelessly broken, that now is not quite the time for the Tree of Liberty to be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

So keep that in mind, Democrats, when you start painting all of us with that broad brush. Right now, we stand on the side of civilized behavior, and not on the side of those out to wreak violence in retaliation for what a small number of our ideological compatriots see as repeated gross assaults on the Constitution.

Be careful how hard you push us.

Lest I be accused of plagiarism, let me give credit where credit is due.

He could have said that as much as he disagreed with that group, he would not tolerate the mobs with pitchforks, that he deplored the threats of violence, and that he and his administration would make damned sure that those threats were never carried out. Instead, he chose to use them for his own purposes. So if he can do it, with far more authority behind his words, why can't I?


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I've seen accounts of a few... (Below threshold)
James H:

I've seen accounts of a few items that worry me, Jay Tea. They are:

1) A brick hurled through the window of a Rochester County, NY, Democratic Party office;

2) A cut propane line at the home of a Virginia congressman's brother (Said brother's address had been sent to Tea Party members because somebody thought it was the congressman's address. That Tea Party member, i think, just advocated protests); and,

3) Bart Stupak reports that he's received phone threats from pro-lifers.


Right now, Democrats, we... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Right now, Democrats, we reasonable, responsible members of the "right" are all that is standing between you and the nutjobs. Right now, we're doing a fairly good job of keeping the nutjobs from taking more direct action. Right now, we're the ones who are arguing that we can trust the system, that it will work, that this nation and its system of governance are not hopelessly broken, that now is not quite the time for the Tree of Liberty to be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Bing-f'kin-o.

Pretty much any system will show wierd behavior when the inputs are skewed, and the Dems have been doing their damndest to skew the inputs for the last decade or two. (And in the case of Chicago, considerably longer.)

But the pendulum ALWAYS swings back. No matter how you try to hold it in one place.

And the fact that they'r... (Below threshold)
mantis:

And the fact that they're a minority means you don't have to worry about huge mobs coming after you.

Yet.

It doesn't take a huge mob, and you know it. It just takes one nut, and you've got millions of them, many talking about violent revolution. Over a piece of legislation they don't like.

Right now, we're doing a fairly good job of keeping the nutjobs from taking more direct action.

This is you doing a good job?


So if he can do it, with far more authority behind his words, why can't I?

If you'll excuse me, I need to go find out from Sarah Palin what members of Congress to train my crosshairs on, and then cut some gaslines to innocent people's houses. Because Obama told a bunch of asshole bankers that people were angry at them.

Seriously, Jay. Your side has gone completely, batshit insane. You're not even living in reality. It's going to get a lot, lot worse, and if you had any conscience at all you will look back on this post in shame.

You don't, so you won't.

Farewell again, you bunch of fucking lunatics.

[waving goodbye to mantis a... (Below threshold)
epador:

[waving goodbye to mantis as he heads back to the sanctuary of sanity at kos]

Please warn us next time so we can dodge your spittle, will ya?

Mantis,It's really... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Mantis,

It's really sad that you need to be reminded of the long history of violence perpetrated by liberal nubags and how much incitement to violence and even murder has been carried on by the left and, yes, the democratic party over the last 10 years.

The left encouraged people to consider the assassination of the president. The left engaged in (documented not just alleged) voter intimidation.

The left has been far more prone to acts of violence and vandalism and turns its back on such things when they occur and pretends they aren't happening.

Contrast that to the right, which condemns acts of violence and deals with such elements directly.

The left is the playground of cowards and the intellectually dishonest.

You'll notice that mantis m... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

You'll notice that mantis made MO MENTION of those incidents JT listed.

Bye mantis. Say hello to the folks in Nancyland for us.

As to the 'threats'. Hoyer was "VAGUE". Yeah. Isn't sure of the numbers, isn't sure of the threats.

Hey Hoyer! "I'm voting against you this November" is NOT a THREAT. It's a PROMISE!

Hey, mantis, James, did you... (Below threshold)

Hey, mantis, James, did you read the extended section?

Come on, guys, you KNOW me better than that. That extended section was to put the point on where I stole my theme, and to demonstrate how truly ugly that sentiment is. And if you're appalled that little old me says something like that, how the hell did you feel when it was originally said?

J.

IMO the anger is not one bi... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

IMO the anger is not one bill or so call losing one election. It is the path this country is on, big government and rights of so call "majorities" over rights of the individuals. So call "moderate" Republicans have their fair share of blame toward this socialist path as well.

When this country was founded, it was unique in the value it place on individual rights and liberties. The constitution was written in such a way as to protect individual rights. Over time these rights have been greatly eroded.

Many people even many who post here think simple majority should rule. If you can get a simple majority to rule that all white males on their 40th birthday must walk around town nude with a sign apologizing to minorities then it is OK. Any rule by a simple majority is OK. That type of thinking has resulted in many revolutions. Many revolutions have been fought and won by a small fraction of the populist.

Republican Cantor's campaig... (Below threshold)
davidt:
Davidt -You just b... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Davidt -

You just beat me to that news on Cantor.

Where are all the dems lining up to condemn this act of terrorism? We all know that they would be demanding that the GOP issue condemnations.

We're waiting...(crickets)

Cutting a propane line is r... (Below threshold)
tomg51:

Cutting a propane line is really, truly very dangerous. That one would bother me.

Especially because I like torches.

Simply put I see this healt... (Below threshold)
mag:

Simply put I see this healthcare bill like this:
I am standing in line at Dunkin Donuts, I order a tea and then tell the cashier the person behind me will paid my bill and walk away with a smurk on my face.

The m.o. of the left is to call everyone who disagrees with them racist, bigots, selfish, nuts etc. no matter what we do or say.....so acting in a civilized way...has gotten us...where?????

funning how when Stupak was... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

funning how when Stupak was a No vote the multiple threats he got didn't manage to make the evening news ...
and no Democrats condemed these threats ... I wonder why not ?

Maybe becasue they didn't see it in the NYT or WaPo or ABC or CBS or NBC ...

From The Hill...<a h... (Below threshold)
Hank:

From The Hill...
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/89065-gop-lawmaker-now-reports-threat-over-healthcare-stance

GOP lawmaker now reports threat over healthcare stance.

Here's a transcript of the voice mail left for Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio).

"Yes, uh. Yeah, I'm glad, uh. the president passed healthcare, yeah. Funky-ass, racist-ass Republicans hate that, don't you? Jean [sic] Smith, when you got hit by that car or when you fell or whatever, you should've broke your back, b***h. You, and Boehner motherf***er, that Mitch McConnell -- all you racist f***ing Republicans. Why don't you just change y'all's party name to "racist"? 'Cause if one of those little f***ing Teabaggers would've spit on me, I would have socked them in the f***ing face with my f***ing .09 mm. F*** all you racist motherf***ers."

Sounds a lot like mantis and other trolls here.
And mantis has the nerve to state that:

"Your side has gone completely, batshit insane..

"Cantor said "a bullet was ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Cantor said "a bullet was shot through the window" of his campaign office. The incident happened Monday, Fox News has learned, the latest in a rash of apparent threats and acts of intimidation against members of Congress. Most of the threats so far have been reported by Democrats, but Cantor -- the No. 2 Republican in the House -- is one of about 10 lawmakers who has asked for increased security protection, Fox News has learned"


So, Obama's brownshirts are using Kristallnacht tactics aginst conservative's..

Where have we seen this before?

When the people fe... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. -Thomas Jefferson
mantis:I... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

mantis:

It's going to get a lot, lot worse

That almost sounds like a threat.

mentis-"If you'll ... (Below threshold)
914:

mentis-

"If you'll excuse me, I need to go find out from Sarah Palin what members of Congress to train my crosshairs on, and then cut some gaslines to innocent people's houses.


Farewell again, you bunch of fucking lunatics."


Thats some well reasoned thought out commentary. Take your meds you loon!

steveP,G OR H-

"You're all totally without credibility, except to yourselves and the scrotum lickers - sorry, tea baggers."

Hey mantis' I think we found your second cousin.

Why aren't Republicans aren... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Why aren't Republicans aren't angry at their own leaders for the passage of the Healthcare bill? Are they're just inept boobs that got steamrolled by a mouth-breathing Paris Hilton or are they Socialists/Communists/Fascists too?


Now GOP rep Jean Schmidt ha... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Now GOP rep Jean Schmidt has received threats left on her voice mail.

Why is it that when the dems receive threats there is no evidence ever left to report, but when the GOP receives threats there is lots of evidence to present? And yet the press only covers the story where they have nothing to show.

oops ^one extra "aren't and... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

oops ^one extra "aren't and one extra "''re"^

SteveP... my, my, my! What ... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

SteveP... my, my, my! What an appropriate screen-name.

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On to my reason for posting. For those who haven't noticed it yet, go back and re-read the comment thread. Substitute Israel for the words "Republican" and "Tea Party" and you have Obama's mid-east foreign policy.

And the good news is that leaves us standing with the best of company.

Adrian-Are you rea... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Adrian-

Are you really such a complete idiot that you do not know that the GOP could do nothing to prevent the dems from passing this injustice on party lines?

Not a single GOP member voted for the bill. There is little more that they could do. The fact that it took Obama this long shows how much the GOP was able to weaken the dems.

To suggest that the GOP failed is silly. They have held back th elegislation as much as they could. It was always a matter of the dems getting up enough resolve to pass a bill that they know is deeply disliked by the electorate and they have to be willing to take the consequences.

The dems will get hammered in November. They will deserve it.

Conservatives scared... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:


Conservatives scared of RINO hunting?

This violence may well be t... (Below threshold)
Hank:

This violence may well be the legacy that Obama leaves behind.

It was, after all, his deputy Chief of Staff who said: ""If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,".

"This violence may well ... (Below threshold)
914:

"This violence may well be the legacy that Obama leaves behind."

Yes, remember community agitatin is Barry's strong suit!

yo' Adrion-

"Are they're just inept boobs that got steamrolled by a mouth-breathing Paris Hilton or are they Socialists/Communists/Fascists too?"

That makes absolutely no sense. How inept of you.

jim m,"There is litt... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

jim m,
"There is little more that they could do."

How about educating themselves and having a discussion? How about making an honest and coherent argument against it instead of just senselessly yelling DEATH PANELS?

The Republican leadership has failed.

Hey steve(#18)If i... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Hey steve(#18)

If it was majority rule, the health care bill would NOT have passed, you know that, right?

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm actually talking about the CITIZENS. .they don't matter in your little world.

Your right to point that ou... (Below threshold)
914:

Your right to point that out Ryan. If the libs were really concerned about peoples cares they would have listened to the majoriy of Americans that do not want all the things this soft tyranny is shoving down our throats.

Not only is the modern Demo... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Not only is the modern Democrat party unhinged, there are incidents throughout the history of this country. One of the most wrote about one, is where a Southern Democrat slave holding Senator beat a Northern abolitionist Senator severely about the head and shoulders with a cane on the floor of the Senate chamber. The event showed how the Democrats want to keep the status quo back then. Of course this Senator was made a hero in the fight against the abolishment of slavery. It was not Republicans that started the Ku Klux Klan and perpetuated a century of violence against people who did not agree with their philosophy of how to run a country -- be they were black or white. So in a nutshell, the legacy of political violence has been a staple of the Democrat party since the beginning of this country.

How about educating them... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

How about educating themselves and having a discussion? How about making an honest and coherent argument against it instead of just senselessly yelling DEATH PANELS?

That's classic, very good use of sarcasm!!

I mean you weren't being serious with that were you?

If there have been threats ... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

If there have been threats to federal officials, call the FBI. They can trace this stuff nowadays and arrest the perps.

I strongly suspect there is no more truth here than in the "racial slur" the Democrats made up from the demonstration at the Capitol. All those camera phones, and not a trace?

If these threats happened, why call NBC instead of FBI?

I've seen accounts of a ... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

I've seen accounts of a few items that worry me, Jay Tea. They are:

Worry you why? Surely not because this is the first time such things are happening correct? With each incident someone needs to be held accountable and brought up on charges, but surely you are not thinking these types of events are new?

Yeah, this pass bill by sle... (Below threshold)
mag:

Yeah, this pass bill by sleazy under handed corrupt means, and threats...gosh I feel like I living in Chicago.

The majority of people in this country are moderates and conservatives. Even if the are social liberals they usually are still are fiscal conservatives. They do not like their money taken away from them. In any case, never gloat it is like spitting in the wind, it will come right back and haunt you. I have never seen people of all ages, backgrounds and colors this mad and disgusted with their government. I mean seriously mad. This is not the end, it is the beginning of something very, very profound and serious.

We should listen to people ... (Below threshold)
Eric:
J.R.,I just don't th... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

J.R.,
I just don't think using scare tactics based on easily debunked lies was a good strategy. It backfired.

Adrian, you mean r... (Below threshold)
Chip:

Adrian,

you mean reasoned debate without the scare tactics like...ummmm Rep Alan Grayson?

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly. That's right -- the Republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick."

Thanks Chip, you beat me to... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Thanks Chip, you beat me to it.

AB, sadly the use of scare tactics was used just as effectively on the pro-side, as shown by Grayson's remark identified by Chip. Spare us your moral superiority on the issue.

One particular Republican l... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

One particular Republican leader who failed was Jim DeMint -- that "Waterloo" remark kinda made the passage of some healthcare bill, regardless of its merits, inevitable.

Finger of Blame ----> Senator DeMint

I see that several of the s... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

I see that several of the so-called threats have been walked back by the media and others have been fact checked found to be exaggerations. Some are probably true and are not to be condoned. Anytime that an issue affects either the liberty or the pocketbook of voters (in this case it is both) it raises tempers. Considering that the MAJORITY of voters and tax payers are against this bill (CNN, Gallup, Rasmussen, take your pick) that puts the aginners well over a hundred million. There will be a few kooks in a hundred million, but it doesn't make it right even if it is minuscule in amount.

Maybe Obama should tell his congressman that he is the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks like he did the bankers. But wait, I have that wrong, pushing the unpopular bill is what caused the problem for his congressmen.

that "Waterloo" remark k... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

that "Waterloo" remark kinda made the passage of some healthcare bill, regardless of its merits, inevitable.

What merits? And this is classic. So that's how our Congress is supposed to work, through spite. Yeah, take that back to your constituents blue dogs!!

"I had to vote for it, did you hear what Senator DeMint said!!"

You're funny Adrian.

Is there any evidence that ... (Below threshold)
Anon Y. Mous:

Is there any evidence that any of these alleged threats actually came from someone on the right? Of late, it seems that every time there is an arrest made for one of these attacks against the left, it turns out to have actually been perpetrated by a left-leaning wacko trying to make it look like the right was engaging in these tactics.

I just don't think... (Below threshold)
Eric:
I just don't think using scare tactics based on easily debunked lies was a good strategy. It backfired.

Really?

Here is what Sarah Palin wrote on Aug 7, 2009.

And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care.

Why would she be worried about health care rationing? Perhaps it was because of this article published on July 15, 2009 in the NY Times:

Why We Must Ration Health Care

So when the chain smoking e... (Below threshold)

So when the chain smoking elephant eared community agitator's party and MSM poop their britches over these apocalyptic acts of violence are they quaking over.....

Reverend Wright, who thought we deserved 9/11?

Chicago Storm Trooper Farrakhan who might have had a hand in the assanation of Malcom X and maintains that "murder and lying comes easy for white people."?

William Ayers who planted bombs, sought violent overthrow of the gov't and organized more than one riot?

Bernadine Dohrn who charged that her fellow left-wingers showed themselves to be scared "honkies" for not burning down Chicago when Black Panther leader Fred Hampton was killed, and urged her audience to arm themselves and be "a fighting force alongside the blacks."? Who, along with Ayers, participated in the construction of that bomb that killed 3 fellow radicals?

Rhashid Khalidi who has had ties with the PLO?

All who had close personal ties to the community agitator and one (Ayers)who had ghost written his first book since he was too stupid to actually either publish as a professor or write a book.

You're telling me Democrats and the lapdog media are in a frenzy over some alleged isolated incidents but didn't burn up all our flat screens with a bombardment of hysteria over, heck, just a bunch of kooky pranksters who advocated and fomented real violence?

Personally, I can't understand why anyone would be upset that a crazy vicious old hag, an addled senile punch drunk old man and a deceitful jug eared heavy drinking agitator who rammed a facsist gov't take over of one sixth of the economy up our clenched asses would be upset.

Jay,What is unprec... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Jay,

What is unprecedented is members of the media and political figures using inflamatory language and symbols that have connotations of violence. While there have always been a very tiny number of individual extremist of both parties making threats, this is the first time I have seen members of the media and even politicians using language with high connotations of violence. This is the first time in my lifetime that I have seen this type of behavior egged on by the media and politicans.

A recent example is Sara Palin saying on her twitter page "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page. Then when you go to her face book page she has target symbols representing the politicans she is against.

I'll put some more quotes including a recent one by Glenn Beck that went further than Palins.

chain smoking e... (Below threshold)
chain smoking elephant eared community agitator's party
I object to this use of "elephant-eared." Since the person being referred to is a Democrat, that should be "jackass-eared."
Conservatives scared of RIN... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

Conservatives scared of RINO hunting?

25. Posted by Adrian Browne

Why no AB, in fact two of them, McCain and Bennett have challengers that will beat them in the primaries in their respective races.

So, have you reconciled yourself to the fact that the 'violent' side of the political equation here is the Democrat party with well documented individual cases?

After all, the only 'violence' reported that can be documented is the brick that went through Slaughter's window and the cut gas line. Neither can be directly tied to a conservative. Otherwise its all specious and hearsay, and you know how well that works out in court.

Came across this link in th... (Below threshold)
JPO:

Came across this link in the comments section over at Red State. Somehow, I don't remember this being reported as vociferously as recent events have been.

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621#photos

Tina S, I see your "reload"... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Tina S, I see your "reload" (old bumpersticker aphorism) and raise you one
"My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks,".

"I object to this use of "e... (Below threshold)

"I object to this use of "elephant-eared." Since the person being referred to is a Democrat, that should be "jackass-eared."

You know you're right! How silly of me to give the impression I'm intimating GOP ears.

Hope you don't mind, even though I like jackass eared, I also like jug eared, tea cup eared, basset hound eared, grouper eared, grotesquely oversized mammalian eared, garbage can lid eared, hey, Obama Care eared and I guess this leaves out elephantine eared, huh?

Thanks for the admonition bro!

Let's not forget that, just... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

Let's not forget that, just last week, Stupak was complaining about threats he was getting for NOT supporting this health care disaster.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/87519

Completely, batshit insane, indeed. Of course, I haven't heard any of those phone messages.

Imagine some purple shirts ... (Below threshold)
Don L:

Imagine some purple shirts beating up an old man and his wife -no one would care or notice, but if you could get some businessman in a Brooks Bros. three piece to do it -it's news.

This phoney stuff is just the left's version of dressing up as the good guys when they do bad -it's the Chicago way (or the Kremlins?)

Jay Tea:I missed t... (Below threshold)
James H:

Jay Tea:

I missed that part. Would have helped if you'd thrown in a blockquote, as I don't always have time to follow links.

Jugghead is kinda Earitatin... (Below threshold)
914:

Jugghead is kinda Earitatin with all his agitatin isn't he folks.

Another recent series of de... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Another recent series of death threats were made against Jim Bunning for his recent blockage of the health care debate in the Senate. That is when he made an old fashion filibuster against the pay as you bill that was before the Senate about a month ago. We all know who was behind that one and the usual suspects are all for dragging him off the Senate floor and lynch him. Where was the Democrat leadership on this? They were doing the egging on.

46.Tina, come off it... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

46.
Tina, come off it. Weren't you around two or three years ago when Cheney was wished dead, and the media egged it on? I call BS to your little comment.

Obama: "..hit 'em back twice as hard."

It's a bad bill. A bad idea. Bad economics and the REAL problem is the Democratic leadership knows it but went ahead anyway. They aren't working for their constituents.

Beck just reminded me of th... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

Beck just reminded me of the reporter who got mugged for asking a question of Martha Coakley. I'd forgotten about that one. Too many incidents of violence from the leftists to keep track of.

WTF Tina?Where wer... (Below threshold)
jim m:

WTF Tina?

Where were you when they were showing movies of Bush being assassinated?

Was your head so far up your ass that you blacked out for 6 months?

Where were you when they were showing Bush at the GOP convention with a cross-hair on his head and the words "snipers wanted"?

Where were you the last 10 years when the left fantasized daily about Cheney's demise or trying Bush and Cheney for some trumped up war crimes charge and executing them?

Tina you are an amazing piece of work. You have managed to sleep through the last ten years completely oblivious of the excesses of the left and you look at the bogus charges against the right(which pale by comparison) and you are so shocked!

If you are incapable of having any historical memory then why bother posting your inane comments to a place where everyone else does?

Beck just reminded... (Below threshold)
Eric:
Beck just reminded me of the reporter who got mugged for asking a question of Martha Coakley. I'd forgotten about that one. Too many incidents of violence from the leftists to keep track of.

He wasn't a reporter, he wasn't mugged, there were no Democrats involved, Martha Coakley never saw a thing, in fact the so-called reporter deserved it for not identifying himself as a reporter.

Don't you remember? Steve Green told us so. Who are you going to believe, Steve Green or your lying eyes?

What is unpreceden... (Below threshold)
Eric:
What is unprecedented is members of the media and political figures using inflamatory language and symbols that have connotations of violence.

I don't think that word UNPRECEDENTED means what you think it means.

Because otherwise these would not have ever happened.
Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes

Sniper's Wanted

Nobel Peace Laureate wants to kill Bush

Go down this page and look at ALL of the pictures and tell me again how unprecedented it is and tell me how open minded and peaceful the Left is.

mantis - "Because Obama... (Below threshold)
Marc:

mantis - "Because Obama told a bunch of asshole bankers that people were angry at them."

Damn, thanks for the reminder mantis, I remember it well.

As part of the memory I remember a buttload of SEIU thugs bussed to the homes of AIG execs to "remind" them of obama's anger.

And BTW, have you condemned the LEFT-TURD that fired a shot thru the window of Eric Canter's campaign office?

Or have you condemned the LEFT-TURD that has threatened the Senate parliamentarian because he sent the recon bill back to the Hose?

tina s - "A recent exam... (Below threshold)
Marc:

tina s - "A recent example is Sara Palin saying on her twitter page "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page. Then when you go to her face book page she has target symbols representing the politicans she is against."

You are without question the dimmest of all dim bulbs.

Palin "targets" indeed! Do you even know what a shooting range target looks like? Obviously not because they AREN'T diamond shaped you sniveling little twit.

You get credit of one thing, you make a fine dim-turd drone.

Eric,The problem i... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Eric,

The problem is that the left is used to being able to suppress all speech that they don't like.

On the college campuses they have basically outlawed conservative thought ans speech with their speech codes. Just try and bring a conservative speaker on campus and you almost have to call out the national guard to quell the unrest. Bring a lunatic liberal like Michael Moore and his communist propaganda machine and you get articulate and principled objection from the few conservatives willing to blacklist themselves by coming forward.

Face it, the libs are used to having conservatives cowed by threat of violence. Libs aren't used to conservatives not being silenced. Libs are afraid that conservatives might actually be as violent as the libs have been for over a decade.

Tina and her circle of useful idiot friends think that freedom means that they never have to hear any ideas that differ from their own.

They seem to think that when they make violent threats or they do things to silence opposition that they are just expressing themselves.

They are patriotic for their dissent. If you have opposing views then you must be opposed to patriotism. They have never understood democracy and never having experienced or allowed an open exchange of ideas to take place in their presence they do not know what real democracy looks like.

When this country is mired ... (Below threshold)
Burt:

When this country is mired in all-out civil war, we would do well to remember that it was the Democrats who fired the first shot into Cantor's office. Much like it was the Democrates that fired the first shot on Fort Sumter in April of 1861. Yes there were minor incidents rock throwing and random vandalism but the escalation is fully on Democrats.

psssst.... I blame Barney F... (Below threshold)
Marc:

psssst.... I blame Barney Frank & Obama for vilifying banks thereby inciting poo-piles at banks across America.

Civil war? I doubt it. Wh... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Civil war? I doubt it. Who would ever be John Brown?

I completely agree with tha... (Below threshold)
scta:

I completely agree with that Jay tea is saying. I am one of the "producers" that this country's government has seen fit to continue to ignore, bleed dry and vilify. It makes no sense to me that the left can condone violence like we have seen against Bush et al, and not expect it back two fold a couple of years later.

Basically, most of the liberal nuts don't have jobs, family responsibilities, or anything else to stop them from going out and protesting like idiots.

When people like me eventually decide enough is enough, we won't be waving a sign, or a stick, or some other bullshit, we will be waving a .45 and say ENOUGH IS EHOUGH.

Liberals better realize they are pushing the rational part of the population that pays the bills that allows them to live in subsidized housing, collect welfare, get healthcare at ERs without payment, and everything else. When we push back, it will tear this country apart (and after this week I am no longer sure that is not a good thing).

"Civil war? I doubt it. ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Civil war? I doubt it. Who would ever be John Brown?"

Why Barry black thats who dont ya know? A civil wr is coming but it will most likely be plyed out in cyberspace!

How about educating them... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

How about educating themselves and having a discussion? How about making an honest and coherent argument against it instead of just senselessly yelling DEATH PANELS?

Um, didn't BO already convene a panel doing this just a few weeks ago? Were you asleep or something?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/25/health.care.summit.updates/index.html

scta - Waving "a .45" is yo... (Below threshold)
Marc:

scta - Waving "a .45" is your answer?

Nothing like becoming part of the problem guy!

Despite YEARS of hatred and... (Below threshold)
Knightbrigade:

Despite YEARS of hatred and threats from the looney left, the right pretty much shrugged it off and the MSM remained silent.

Now after a major government power grab and shift away from freedom, some possible unacceptable actions are being done by some random angry citizens...ho hum.
The MSM and left act as if it's a political Pearl Harbor and they want Republicans to call a cease fire!
... they just don't get it. Republican/Conservatives didn't call for this, this wasn't organized. This is bad BEHAVIOR, not actual VIOLENCE upon a person.
This is NOTHING...

Right now the FIGHT will be in NOVEMBER at the POLLS!!!!
But PrompterBinky, Granny Botox and all other socialist Democrats should understand there is a LINE not to cross when taking freedoms and rights from the citizens.
Obamacare was not the line, but they took a big step closer to it.

So I'll just agree with the Tree of Liberty, blood of Patriots and Tyrants concept.

"Right now, we stand on the side of civilized behavior, and not on the side of those out to wreak violence in retaliation for what a small number of our ideological compatriots see as repeated gross assaults on the Constitution."

And I couldn't have said THIS better myself..

"When we push back, it will tear this country apart (and after this week I am no longer sure that is not a good thing" :Posted by scta

Since some of you are using... (Below threshold)
Rance:

Since some of you are using the bullet hole in "Canter's office" a example of violence by the left, you may want to read what the Richmond police have said on the subject.

http://www2.godanriver.com/gdr/news/state_regional/article/bullet_that_hit_cantor_office_was_randomly_fired/19378/

There are actual cases of violence directed at the right from the left. This was not one of them.

Hey, Rance, while you're in... (Below threshold)

Hey, Rance, while you're in a correcting mood, how about that rock tossed through Representative Steve Dreihaus' office window?

That would be his 30th floor office window.

The Seattle Times says some right-winger did it. Screw politics, sign that guy up for the Major Leagues!

J.

J.T.,If it was an ... (Below threshold)
Rance:

J.T.,

If it was an outside window, then you are perfectly right to call bullshit on the claims of violence.

As far a me correcting every thing you find wrong, I simply don't have the time. I saw the headline about Canter on an aggregator, verified that the story was actually reported by the AP, and forwarded it.

I think you and I agree that there is enough real stupidity going on out there that no one has to make things up, on either side.

Cantor reports coming under... (Below threshold)
Larry Dickman:

Cantor reports coming under Tuzla sniper fire and having a backwards B carved into his cheek.

Main thing that keeps me fr... (Below threshold)
Kathy from Kansas:

Main thing that keeps me from reaching the boiling point is knowing that that is PRECISELY what that spoiled, smirking, smug little creep Bill Ayers WANTS to see happen. The whole Weather Underground plan was to try to provoke a race war in the streets of America and get everybody killing each other, so that there would be a power vacuum and then Ayers and his little commie turd friends could take over.

For that reason if no other, I will restrain myself and not bring out my pitchfork.




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