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Left-Wing Media Militias Strike Again

The latest example of liberal media bias reared its predictably ugly head this weekend.

The compound of one David Brian Stone, leader of a home-grown "militia" was raided Saturday night in Clayton, Michigan. He, along with his wife, Tina, was arrested, while other members of the group were bagged in Ohio and Indiana.

The group's name, "Hutaree," supposedly stands for "Christian warrior." Loosely, the goal of these wayward kooks was to attack a police officer, then produce a mass slaughter at that officer's funeral.

Sheesh.

As if following the first lesson in Left-wing Journalism 101, the predictable liberal whores in the increasingly irrelevant dying media have automatically branded these freakazoids as "right-wing."

Here are just a few examples of some initial unbiased reporting:

The Associated Press: "Authorities said the arrests underscored the dangers of homegrown right-wing extremism of the sort seen in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people."

The Los Angeles Times: "The arrests of the Hutaree members comes amid what the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama nonprofit that tracks extremism, has called "an explosion of new extremist groups and activism across the nation."

The organization has cited the economic downturn as a major reason for the change, and contends that the far right has been particularly animated by the election of the nation's first black president."

Detroit Free Press: "...factors include the poor economy and demographic changes in the country's racial and ethnic composition -- symbolized by an African American in the White House and a female House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi. Both are Democrats and seen by some as pushing for bigger government that will diminish their freedom."

CNN.com: " The Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based nonprofit organization that monitors hate groups and other fringe organizations, lists the Hutaree as a "Patriot" group militia.

Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the 'New World Order,' engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing or advocate or adhere to extreme anti-government doctrines," the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a report, "Rage on the Right: The Year in Hate and Extremism."

TheSpec.com: "In an indictment against the nine unsealed on Monday, the Justice Department said they were part of a group of apocalyptic Christian militants who were plotting to kill law enforcement officers in hopes of sparking an anti-government uprising, the latest in a recent surge in right-wing militia activity.

Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at Political Research Associates, a liberal-leaning nonprofit group that tracks far-right networks..."

The Seattle Times: "The number of groups espousing anti-government doctrines and political conspiracy theories is again rising with conservative anxiety over the Obama administration, the report concluded."

The Examiner: "Right wing Christian militia planned to murder police officers... Many sincere people in the religious right believe that America was created to be a Christian nation and that by fighting a government that they see as secular they are doing the work of Jesus and continuing where America's Founders left off."

MSNBC: "Authorities said the arrests underscored the dangers of homegrown right-wing extremism of the sort seen in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people."

The New York Times: "In an indictment against the nine unsealed on Monday, the Justice Department said they were part of a group of apocalyptic Christian militants who were plotting to kill law enforcement officers in hopes of inciting an antigovernment uprising, the latest in a recent surge in right-wing militia activity.

In April 2009, the Department of Homeland Security produced a report warning of a rising threat of right-wing terrorism, citing factors like economic troubles, the election of a black president and perceived threats to United States sovereignty.

Mark Potok, who leads a program that tracks right-wing groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center, said it first took note of the Hutaree last year amid a surge in new "Patriot" movement groups, race-based hate groups, extremist anti-immigrant groups, Christian militants and other variations."

The automatic branding of this militia as a "right-wing" group fits nicely with the general liberal meme to paint the nation's grass-roots Tea Party Movement as fellow angry "right-wingers."

As if timed perfectly to illustrate this, try reading the New York Times article "The Rage Is Not About Health Care," by Frank Rich.

It is an absurd article, rife with strawmen, written to tie together and invalidate any and all criticism of Obama, the architects of the bill, and the way in which it was stiff-armed into existence. It unapologetically portrays the anger and disillusionment felt by people of all political backgrounds as historically common during uncommon times, further dismissing the sincerity and concern of the people.

Anyway, guess I'd better go. I think I'm supposed to clean my gun, practice my spitting, and find a nice, throwable brick.

At least that's what I've been told.



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If your column is true, the... (Below threshold)
John Bryans Fontaine:

If your column is true, then why aren't the Right-Wing Media making the same accusations that you are?

"" If your column is true, ... (Below threshold)

"" If your column is true, then why aren't the Right-Wing Media making the same accusations that you are? ""

Because there aren't any right-wing" media.

(And Timothy McVey and the rest of his Oklahoma City bombers - both indicted and unindicted - were all either Islamanzis and/or were "Democrats.")

The MSM claim there is only... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

The MSM claim there is only one wing, the radical right wing, because that simplifies the narrative and makes it easier to write about their opposition.

If I really were just a cardboard cutout stereotype, you'd think the MSM would have nothing to fear. What could all those blow dried, telepromptered talking heads be so worried about?

Just to drive the trolls crazy: Sarah Palin is a nice lady who speaks the truth.

The MSM and the administrat... (Below threshold)
jim m:

The MSM and the administration need enemies to distract the public from the crap they are doing with our country. Just like Chavez blames the US for his country's woes and for earthquakes etc and Ahmadinejad blames the US for everything they need to blame the right to create excuses to curtail liberties and force their agend ahainst the people's will.

It's time to call out the l... (Below threshold)
Roy:

It's time to call out the leftwing racist bigots for what they are. They are painting a group of citizens with a broad stroke of lies and innuendo and making up a stereotype. The backlash is going to be harsh. Most tea partiers are women and won't take kindly to being classified as a lesser class of people, again. Force the bigots out of their stinkholes.

1. John Bryans Fontaine - "... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

1. John Bryans Fontaine - "If your column is true, then why aren't the Right-Wing Media making the same accusations that you are?"

I'm taking your comment as a legitimate question for now, John. The job of the news media is to report events/news, not make accusations. One requirement of news reporting is that it be factual. Including non-factual or omitting factual information is poor reporting. Deliberately doing either of those two is lying.
It is not the media's job to make accusations. And, in general the media does not do "fact checking" on each other.

The above excerpts attempt to make a connection between that particular militia and conservative voters (right wing) as a group without providing any facts linking the two. If they had any such evidence the reporters would have provided it to their readers. The only thing that is known is that this group of lunatics spiraled downward from their faith into madness.

Do these reporters' work meet your standards for impartial accuracy?

Right or left, it's still t... (Below threshold)
Jeff Ray:

Right or left, it's still two wings on the same bird.
Tea is best long and loose, forget the bags, along with the negative labels.

United we stand, divided we're all. It's sad how easily society is manipulated into stupidity.

Seems like the investigatio... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Seems like the investigations of so-called right wing hate groups are on the upswing again. Especially after the debate on the ObamaCare boondoggle began. First the left starts calling the opponents of the Obama Administration a bunch of racists, but that did not stick too well. Now they are going to plan B, which is to arrest anyone, on trumped up charges, that gets in the way of their agenda. God help you if you are Christians, they seem to have a special hate for them. Not like the religion of peace, where they chop your head off with a scimitar.

As for the Poverty Law Center, they are a left wing hate group that does the bidding of the Communist party. They were the main push for the federal raids on Ruby Ridge and Waco. The founder, Morris Dees was a top leader in the Klan. I guess the rock throwers (literally) can get away with that, because they are expressing their First Amendment right. Where as any group that opposes anything the ObamaZombies do or say, are a bunch terrorists. If you all don't believe me, just ask the head of the DHS. She will set you straight.

Of course we remember that ... (Below threshold)
jbinnout:

Of course we remember that about a year ago Napalitano put out a 10 page report on terrorism that used the word right-wing over 50 times.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/1006

Janet's MO, find a group of wackos,label them right-wing, make a splash in media. Sounds like Reno-redo. Oh, she also smeared returning veterans in her report. Glad she is out of AZ.

Quite the coincidence that ... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Quite the coincidence that so many "news" organizations come out with almost identical reports.

I'd love to see the Journolist emails from a few days ago.

Give the Detroit Free Press extra credit for working in racism and sexism.

I'm surprised that Global warming wasn't also involved.

Stan, I don't mean to pick ... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

Stan, I don't mean to pick nits with you, but I don't think your statement that Morris Dees was a top leader of the Klan is correct. I think he was on the other side of that fight, and he did some good. In recent years, he tends to see racism and hate speech everywhere he looks, but back in the 60's, he was on the right side of the civil rights stuff.

I'm going on memory here, so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

The left can only exist my ... (Below threshold)
OLDPUPPYMAX:

The left can only exist my means of lies, distortions, misrepresentation and fraud. We learned that long ago.

"Generally, Patriot groups ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the 'New World Order,' engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing...."

But people who say "9-11 was an inside job" are true Americans?

Steve Green's "logic" - " T... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

Steve Green's "logic" - " The found was a big Ron Paul supporter - who was a Republican candidate for President.

That qualifies as 'right wing'."

Gee, the exact same circumstances as with that asshole LeBoon. LeBoon who twice donated to Obama's presidential campaign. Obama, who was the Democrat candidate for President. I guess that means LeBoon qualifies as "left wing."

Thanks for clearing that up for us, Steve.

A Deeper Look at the Christ... (Below threshold)
John Bryans Fontaine:

A Deeper Look at the Christian Militia
By John Hudson on March 29, 2010

"...Over the weekend, the FBI raided a Michigan Christian militia group called Hutaree. The group sought to "levy war" against the government and planned to execute a local law enforcement official, according to an indictment unsealed Monday morning in court. On their Web site, members call themselves Christian soldiers arming themselves for the coming of the Antichrist. What else is known about this group?..."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/A-Deeper-Look-at-the-Christian-Militia-3018/

#17. - "A Deeper Look at th... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

#17. - "A Deeper Look at the Christian Militia"

Uh, you do realize that you just offer up an OPINION piece there don't you, John?

Any particular reason? Or have you begun active trolling?

UOG

Gosh, all nine of 'em, huh?... (Below threshold)
mojo:

Gosh, all nine of 'em, huh?

Hell of a threat.

Ron Paul ran on his own tic... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Ron Paul ran on his own ticket, not the Republican ticket, for president. But you knew that Steve.

Don't forget this is the sa... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

Don't forget this is the same MSM that considers the Ayers - Obama connection not worth mentioning. And Ayers group actually killed a cop.

Fred Phelps, Bull Connor an... (Below threshold)

Fred Phelps, Bull Connor and Robert "Kleagle" Byrd are all Democrats. Your point?

(Trick question.)

And Ron Paul was on the Rep... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

And Ron Paul was on the Republican ticket for President when, Steveo?

Have you achieved the rank ... (Below threshold)
914:

Have you achieved the rank of "buck private" in your local whackjob militia yet stevie?

914,If green has a... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

914,

If green has any stripes they'll be on his ass.

Running in the Primary does... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Running in the Primary does not make you a presidential candidate. Being on the ballot does.

Yes, Steve, ignore us like ... (Below threshold)
klrtz1:

Yes, Steve, ignore us like you ignore Ayers.

Hypocrite.

None of the excerpts quoted... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

None of the excerpts quoted by Mr Mallow mention the Republican Party, the Tea Party, or anyone commonly thought of as stars in the conservative movement. They don't attempt to "connect that particular militia with conservative voters" as Mr Upset alleges. And several of them are simply quoting the Southern Poverty Law Center, something journalists often do when these things happen, since the SPLC are noted authorities on rightwing hate groups. There has indeed been an uptick in militia activity since the 2008 election. That is a fact. Reporting facts is what journalists do.

What are you guys getting so upset about?

Also, Mr Mallow, regarding the Frank Rich article, there is a difference between a "strawman" and an "example." And as for how it was written "to tie together and invalidate....", that is what some writers would call a "theme" or a "subject." Just so you know. See, Mr Rich writes what we call "editorials."

Actually, Mr Wuzzy, running... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Actually, Mr Wuzzy, running in a GOP primary DOES make you a Republican candidate. I believe the distinction you are looking for here is that it doesn't make you the NOMINEE. But Romney, Paul, Huckabee, and Huckleberry Hound, I mean Fred Thompson, were all GOP candidates in 2008.

Several examples here of how freaking WRONG Wizbang commenters can be, what with Stan calling Dees a former Klansman, Upset seeing accusations where none exist, and Mr Wuzzy here persisting in his ignorance through several comments. Usual fare.

Thanks Bruce for clearing t... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Thanks Bruce for clearing that up for us. Many of us here at Wizbang read the posts and comments but wait with baded breath to see what the great Bruce would say. You are drowning in your smugness and ego my friend. Life experience is far more accurate then parsing words. Of course you know that but cannot/will not go against your parties machinary and it's many support groups like the MSM. We know that Bruce so it is alright to come out and say it. ww

The reason the media refers... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

The reason the media refers to Hutaree as right-wing group is because their lifestyles adhere to 3 core values of the Republican party.

1. Religous fundamentalism.
2. Strong believers in gun rights.
3. Strong dislike of goverment.

When someone states they believe in all of the above, they are considered right-wing. Those are right-wing values. The republican party considers people who have those 3 values to be their base.

OK, Willie, consider me sco... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

OK, Willie, consider me scolded. So I can be a little insufferable. My bad.

But my point is that this piece is pointless. There may indeed be leftwing bias in the media, but these examples posted here by Mr Mallow don't constitute an example of it.

And SOMEONE has to teach him the difference between a "strawman" and an "example."

Further, I take issue with your comment that "life experience is far more accurate than parsing words." Wuzzy was the one parsing words, Genius, and if his life experience has convinced him that insisting he is right when he is obviously wrong is the right thing to do, then his life experience has let him down.

bh - "Actually, Mr Wuzz... (Below threshold)
Marc:

bh - "Actually, Mr Wuzzy, running in a GOP primary DOES make you a Republican candidate. "

Well gee, that's not exactly what Mr Wuzzy" said was it?

More like this: "Running in the Primary does not make you a presidential candidate. Being on the ballot does."

You want a strawman, Frank Rich gave you one:

Specifically this one: "The "I want my country back!" rhetoric does reflect a mind-set in which one's country has been taken away by ... others. But in thinking about race this weekend, I got more out of a column by Ron Brownstein, which examined poll data showing that white voters -- wrongly -- tend to believe healthcare reform helped "other people," not themselves."

I want my country back means no more over-turning decades of bankruptcy laws to reward union bosses, no more take-overs of student loan banks for Gov profit, no more looking the other way when fanny and freddy give out million on bonuses when other are crucified for it, etc, etc... etc.

It has ZERO to do with race. But asswipe Rich wants you to believe it.

And assholes like s green do.

Mr. Henry,"Repo... (Below threshold)
Mr. Mallow:

Mr. Henry,

"Reporting facts is what journalists do."

Implying that which has been stated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as actual fact, and not the efforts of a left-wing hatchet organization which negatively broad-brushes most any group opposing their radical leftist smear engine, is a lazy way for a "news outlet" to obtain quotes it needs to demonize conservatives as right-wing hate groups while presenting those quotes as fact.

While, long ago, the SPLC had noble intentions defending civil rights, those days are long gone after decades of intellectual erosion concerning people or groups who held positions in conflict with their ridged policy of declaring any dissenters as right-wing racist bigots.

As you claim of the above news outlets, "several of them are simply quoting the Southern Poverty Law Center, something journalists often do when these things happen, since the SPLC are noted authorities on right-wing hate groups."

Says who? Them? You?

You see "noted authorities." I see smear merchants in the mould of the ACLU, only much more targeted.

As for the above news outlets using the SPLC as a legitimate source for comment on supposed right-wing activities, one feeds off the other. It is a case of complete self-preservation on the part of two disingenuous, lazy ideologues.

Just labeling those you disagree with as "right-wing" does not make it truth.

That is a far cry from "reporting facts."

As per Mr. Rich's article, how fortunate I am to have the moral tutelage of Bruce Henry to enlighten me on what constitutes an "editorial."

I seem to recall many times you lambasting me for not writing my articles as if they were dissertations to be graded as opposed to what they actually were: My commentary and my opinion.

Here's a little secret: Most blogging consists of commentary and opinion.

Just so you know.


Mr. Henry,Do you a... (Below threshold)
Shawn:

Mr. Henry,

Do you actually believe the shit that you write now?

"But my point is that this piece is pointless. There may indeed be leftwing bias in the media, but these examples posted here by Mr Mallow don't constitute an example of it."

Oh, really, Mr. Henry?

Well, then, what in your estimation does? ANYTHING?

Does a media messiah just need to come right out, smote you on your balding ball, and bellow "Let me be perfectly clear: What I am about to post is full of left-wing bias."?

The quotes I used aren't from some liberal loon-pens like Kos or Huff-Po where you can book on their bile being unabashedly lefty-flavored.

Look at the names: CNN, NYT, LAT, MSNBC.

All main stream outlets. All saying the same basic thing. Some quoting the SPLC: That same bastion of unbiased integrity who you claim to be "noted authorities on rightwing hate groups."

What happened to you? You've always been a wayward southern leftist, but you at least seemed to speak with a bit of conviction, like you actually believed what you said.

All due respect, you're giving that babbling village idiot Steve Green a run for his money lately.

OK, Mr Mallow, perhaps you ... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

OK, Mr Mallow, perhaps you can cite examples of the SPLC even talking about people other than rightwing hate groups like the Klan. Who has the SPLC "smeared"? Do you really want to go on record defending those whom the SPLC is in business to watch?

Morris Dees has done more good in his life than 50 Wizbang commenters combined will ever do.

But aside from all that, the snippets you posted don't try to establish a connection between militia groups and GOP voters, so the "why they pickin' on us?" act falls flat. They DO point out that there has been an increase in militia activity since the election, and that is true. Don't believe them, or me? Ask the Secret Service!

You guys are the first ones to jump on the "All Muslims are alike" train whenever a supected Islamic terrorist is arrested. But you squeal when any connection is drawn between rightwing ideology and radical action.

Not that I'm implying that all conservatives are dangerous nutjobs. Then again, NEITHER ARE THESE QUOTES!

Where you at, Mr Mallow? De... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Where you at, Mr Mallow? Desperately googling up something you can characterize as a "smear" by SPLC?

My criticisms of your work are just that, sir -- criticism OF YOUR WORK, not you personally. And you should capitalize "Southern."

Sorry for the delay, Henry.... (Below threshold)
Mallow, Shawn:

Sorry for the delay, Henry.

See. Some of us have lives off of the internet. That's where I was when you posted your last snarky little comment.

I know. It must be lonely being a troll.

That's a good book title. Go for it!

"None of the excerpts quoted by Mr Mallow mention the Republican Party, the Tea Party, or anyone commonly thought of as stars in the conservative movement. They don't attempt to "connect that particular militia with conservative voters" as Mr Upset alleges. And several of them are simply quoting the Southern Poverty Law Center, something journalists often do when these things happen, since the SPLC are noted authorities on rightwing hate groups. There has indeed been an uptick in militia activity since the 2008 election. That is a fact. Reporting facts is what journalists do."

Your words, Henry.

Are you claiming that "right-wing" and "conservative" in the liberal lexicon are not interchangable? I call horseshit on that one, Henry.

"the snippets you posted don't try to establish a connection between militia groups and GOP voters, so the "why they pickin' on us?" act falls flat."

There's one example of a strawman, since I never insinuated that anything stated by the "snippets" links GOP voters and militia groups. So what the hell are you talking about?

You can now bring up the Secret Service if you want, but, in the above quote, you clearly point out the veracity of the SPLC as experts on "rightwing hate groups," and said nothing about anyone else.

You also, bizarrely, out of nowhere, bring up the SPLC and their active watchfulness of the "Klan." Then you ask if I want to defend others who the SPLC is watching (like, well, the Klan.).

There's another strawman. Show me anywhere that I even mentioned the Klan or any other possible target on their list and your beloved watch-dog group.

You are officially making shit up as you go along.

Here are the 3 examples out of the quotes that I provided that mention the SPLC:

1) "The organization has cited the economic downturn as a major reason for the change, and contends that the far right has been particularly animated by the election of the nation's first black president."

2) "The Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based nonprofit organization that monitors hate groups and other fringe organizations, lists the Hutaree as a "Patriot" group militia.

Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the 'New World Order,' engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing or advocate or adhere to extreme anti-government doctrines," the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a report, "Rage on the Right: The Year in Hate and Extremism."

3) Mark Potok, who leads a program that tracks right-wing groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center, said it first took note of the Hutaree last year amid a surge in new "Patriot" movement groups, race-based hate groups, extremist anti-immigrant groups, Christian militants and other variations."

You may refuse to acknowledge the fact that all but one of the excerpts listed within the article automatically link this "militia" to a rise in "right-wing" anger or hate groups.

Are you actually going to sit there and claim that you have never interchanged "right-wing" with "conservative?"

What about all the angry "right-wing, conservative extremists" raging at the town hall meetings? You know, the ones Pelosi called "astroturf" and likened to Nazi's?

You are so full of shit, Henry.

And you are hysterical, Mr ... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

And you are hysterical, Mr Mallow.

There were some arrests of a rightwing militia group who were allegedly planning a spectacular act of terrorism. It was all over the news, same as it would have been if it was Arabs or Communists plotting it. Several of the stories quoted the SPLC, as often happens in these cases.

What is your problem with this? No wait, it's explained in your last paragraphs:

"Anyway, guess I'd better go. I think I'm supposed to clean my gun, practice my spitting, and find a nice, throwable brick.

At least that's what I've been told."

Now, what would your average reader think you were trying to say there? That these stories were equating YOU, a nice, average GOP voter, with these angry militia groups, right?

Only, THEY'RE NOT. (That's what the hell I'm talking about. Do you even read your own stuff?)

Again, these stories are quoting the SPLC. It is a fact that the SPLC said these things. They probably have quotes from other sources as well, but you've chosen to highlight the SPLC quotes.

You know, often you'll see stories in the paper headlined "Global Warming is Blah Blah, Says Think Tank." The whole article will be recaps of what the Cato Institute, or the Heritage Foundation, or, yes, The SPLC, says about this or that subject. You DO read the papers, don't you, Mr Mallow? I mean, for more than just finding reasons to feel like a victim?

OF COURSE these stories linked this militia group to a "rise in rightwing anger or hate groups." That's WHAT THIS GROUP IS. What should the stories have said?
"There were some arrests of some militia guys today. In other news, a bear was spotted in suburban Denver today."????

And it really doesn't matter whether or not I, Bruce Henry, have interchanged "right wing" and "conservative." Because these quotes you've posted here don't do that. For what it's worth, I usually use "conservative" to mean mainstream stuff, and "right wing" to describe the more strident, nuttier variety. I think most people do.

As to the SPLC itself, it was FOUNDED to watch and to fight the Klan. Later, it expanded its mission to include other rightwing hate groups. So, my bringing it up was not "bizarrely, out of nowhere," unless one is so freaking ignorant of the subject that one didn't know that fact. And if one IS that ignorant, what the hell is one doing writing an article about it?

By the way, you never revealed who the SPLC has been "smearing" lately. I'm anxious to hear how the SPLC has turned into a bunch of smear merchants.

Mr. Bruce,WTF is w... (Below threshold)
lowmal:

Mr. Bruce,

WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, get some help for that 55 year old glob of mush that fills in for your brain.

Tell me, what by its very nature, makes this militia "right-wing?" Or even better, a militia?

"OF COURSE these stories linked this militia group to a "rise in rightwing anger or hate groups." That's WHAT THIS GROUP IS. What should the stories have said?"

That you so matter-of-factly slap on the right-wing label is just absurd! And why? Because some left-wing, slanted hate group like SPLC tells you so?

You don't see the problem with that?

And who decided to highlight the SPLC in this debate? The media and you. All I did was quote what was said. You propped up the SPLC as some righteous entity having final say on who is "right-wingy" enough to be listed that way.

To your warped logic, since the SPLC says this or any group is "right-wing," then the issue is settled. They. Are. Right. Wing. Dammit!

Being "right-wing" or "left-wing" doesn't necessarily make you bad. Can they be? Of course. Automatically associating them in negative connotations is what will slap a bad label on them.

You want a simple smear?

From the SPLC "Rage On The Right: The Year In Hate And Extremism" (Hell, the title could be called a smear.):

"The "tea parties" and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months cannot fairly be considered extremist groups, but they are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism."

Tea Parties=Racism.

That's a smear.

Maybe not from where you sit, but it is from here.

That is just one example found in about 2 seconds in one paragraph.

The fact that you automatically accept this organization branding those with violent tendencies as "right-wing" is inherently wrong.

I was going to say "and you know it," but I'm not so sure.


What's with the personal st... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

What's with the personal stuff, Mallow?

This group was similar to about a jillion other rightwing militia groups. It made claims about patriotism, "Christian Heritage," and "what the Founders intended." Its propaganda was filled with anti-immigrant, anticommunist, antiprogressive, redwhiteandblue imagery. EVERYBODY, not just the SPLC, is calling it a "right wing militia," including the law enforcement officials who made the arrests!

The stories aren't calling this group right wing because the SPLC told them to. They are asking the SPLC about the group because the SPLC monitors groups like this. It was LAW ENFORCEMENT, not SPLC, that called this group right wing.

Just admit it was a poorly written article and move on, Mr Mallow. Admit it to yourself, anyway, even if you won't do so publicly.

I'm just criticising the piece. I haven't said anything about your brain, whether or not you are balding, your sincerity, or your intellect. And I won't. I only argue with the words, not the individual. Try to argue with some maturity.

The angry white rednecks/ T... (Below threshold)
Ivan:

The angry white rednecks/ Teabeggars are the worst thing to happen to the US. Thank God Billy Bob is on the wrong side of both history and demographics. He has already lost this battle, he just doesn't know it yet! The right wing crazies are as bad as the Islamic loonies. No difference between the two!




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