Associated Press headline, May 9 : "Obama oil response: aggressive as crisis unfolded"
Associated Press headline, May 13: "Poll: Spill not Obama's Katrina, drilling still OK"
Um ... yeah.
The May 9 story deserves your attention:
The Gulf region, ravaged five years earlier by Hurricane Katrina, was on the verge of a second ecological disaster. Would there be a repeat of the bureaucratic bungling that marked President George W. Bush's response to the hurricane?While the Obama administration has faced second-guessing about the speed and effectiveness of some of its actions, a narrative pieced together by The Associated Press, based on documents, interviews and public statements, shows little resemblance to Katrina in either the characterization of the threat or the federal government's response.
Actually the time line is pretty good, but pay attention to the fact that no similar time line for the actual events surrounding the Katrina disaster is ever presented. Even though the AP claims "little resemblance," they offer no evidence to support their claim. Instead, it is up to the reader to remember what happened in September 2005, presumably based on the popular mythology about Katrina that organizations like the AP worked so hard to create. I think the word I'm looking for here is "propaganda."
Rush Limbaugh has said for years that opinion polls by news organizations are nothing more than efforts to measure how effectively their reporting has impacted the public's perception of current events. Looks like he was right once again.
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UPDATE: The AP has just changed the headline for today's story: "Poll: Good marks for Obama on spill, more drilling"
Dang ... wish I had a screen cap of the first headine.



Comments (28)
Dang ... wish I ha... (Below threshold)1. Posted by _Mike_ | May 13, 2010 9:04 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
The piece is apparently published elsewhere too, but have yet to be updated.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9FLQBGO3.htm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hPxFwKyoLhez0ermEP-qus2pn9uwD9FLQAR01
1. Posted by _Mike_ | May 13, 2010 9:04 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 09:04
2. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 11:32 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I called it Barrys Katrina a week before he didn't act. Drill baby, drill baby, drill.
2. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 11:32 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 11:32
3. Posted by Wayne | May 13, 2010 11:37 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
The reporters didn't interview people who crying for help. They didn't report false deaths or sat in canoes in ankle deep water. The MSM is Obama's propaganda machine.
3. Posted by Wayne | May 13, 2010 11:37 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 11:37
4. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 12:12 PM | Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
Um, guys:
- Well over 1000 US citizens drowned during the response to Katrina. No one's died during the response to this oil spoil.
So comparing these two disasters is pretty out of scale.
- What does the AP have to document again? We've all seen the pictures. We know that Bush found enough time to fly to Nashville and play guitar, then have birthday cake with John McCain, and then go to Southern California to give a speech trying to scare seniors out of liking Social Security.
If Bush had been trying everything he could and 1500 still had drowned, no one could blame him. But the fact that he considered these other events more important than paying attention to the disaster as it unfolded, pretty much sums up Bush's failed presidency.
You can keep trying to equate Obama with Bush, but Bush is out of scale with the failures of almost any president in history. Seriously you'd have go past Hoover into the 1800's to find another president of ANY party who was that terrible.
4. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 12:12 PM |
Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 12:12
5. Posted by Constitution First | May 13, 2010 12:26 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
The Lap Dog Media own this mess, lock, stock and barrel, they're in it with both feet.
Lying their ass off is the only option remaining.
5. Posted by Constitution First | May 13, 2010 12:26 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 12:26
6. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 12:30 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
"- Well over 1000 US citizens drowned during the response to Katrina. No one's died during the response to this oil spoil."
Bullshit, at least 100,000 people have died in this country in the past 2 weeks. Where was Barry? Like Bush, he shoulda been giving them all CPR.
6. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 12:30 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 12:30
7. Posted by Constitution First | May 13, 2010 12:31 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Correct me if I'm wrong:
1) Any disaster involving a municipality, the local authority must ask for Federal assistance.
2) It is my understanding, uninvited intrusion by the Feds is a serious violation of states rights.
3) The (Democrat) mayor and (Democrat) governor waited four? five days? before allowing the Fed access?
7. Posted by Constitution First | May 13, 2010 12:31 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 12:31
8. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 12:49 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
#7
Your letting facts intrude on liberal hypocrisy otherwise known as unbridled unicorn reality, careful, you may stroke out!
8. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 12:49 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 12:49
9. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 12:58 PM | Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
Okay, Constitution. You're wrong on all 3 points.
1) Federal help for Katrina was invited and pre-approved before Katrina even hit. Gov. Blanco also declared Louisiana in a state of emergency on August 26th.
President Bush agreed with this, and declared Lousiana in a state of emergency on his end.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html
That haven of Bush-hating Leftists known as the Wall Street Journal, also confirms that even if this WASN'T the case, the Federal government could have done this anyway:
Info on the National Response Plan is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Response_Plan
So - Bush handed it off to his subordinates and went flying around to photo ops for 5 days. Until his own aides forced him to look at a DVD they had to burn of the news coverage - because Bush didn't feel like watching the news.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/print/1/displaymode/1098/
So there you have it.
Reasons can be easily found to blame Blanco and Nagin - but the thing is that they were **trying**. Failing miserably and perhaps stupidly, but putting the effort in.
While Bush was flying around the country because he didn't even care enough to watch the news.
9. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 12:58 PM |
Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 12:58
10. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 1:00 PM | Score: -4 (8 votes cast)
And 914 - seriously?
Over 1000 people drowned **because of** Katrina.
How many people died **because of** the oil spoil?
10. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 1:00 PM |
Score: -4 (8 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:00
11. Posted by GarandFan | May 13, 2010 1:08 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
"You can keep trying to equate Obama with Bush, but Bush is out of scale with the failures of almost any president in history."
Keep drinking the kool aid Jimmy. Your buddy Obama is going to be a ONE TERM FAILURE. Just like Jimmah Carter.
11. Posted by GarandFan | May 13, 2010 1:08 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:08
12. Posted by _Mike_ | May 13, 2010 1:11 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
jim x:
Perhaps you missed the news item that the April'10 budget deficit was the largest in history; $80 billion+ for April (which typically shows a budget surplus). That the deficit was more than 4X that of April '09.
Obama's earning his place in history but I doubt it's what he had in mind.
12. Posted by _Mike_ | May 13, 2010 1:11 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:11
13. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 1:11 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
So there you have it.
Reasons can be easily found to blame Blanco and Nagin - but the thing is that they were **trying**. Failing miserably and perhaps stupidly, but putting the effort in."
Effort? How much effort does it take to turn the key on buses and get the people the hell out?
"While Bush was flying around the country because he didn't even care enough to watch the news."
Watch the news? Who the hell would watch them lie about you day after godforsaken day and still tune it in? I guess he tuned them out and saw them for the libs they are, just like you are going to be tuned out.
13. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 1:11 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:11
14. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Effort? How much effort does it take to turn the key on buses and get the people the hell out?
More effort than it takes to get on a plane and eat some cake.
Who the hell would watch them lie about you day after godforsaken day and still tune it in?
You know what? If you're the President of the United States, and people are depending on you to be the strong, decisive, take-charge leader that you bill yourself as - then you're supposed to man up. And at least ***watch the freakin' news***.
14. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 1:25 PM |
Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:25
15. Posted by Hank | May 13, 2010 1:29 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
This bears repeating again.
"Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors. In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall."
Note the key phrase above: "..a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors". Remember them? The same media morons reporting on the "lurid tales of post-Katrina mayhem: shootouts in the Superdome, bodies stacked in a convention center freezer, snipers firing on rescue helicopters".
But since liberals want to blame Bush for not personally leading the charge into the Superdome, the they'll have to excuse me for blaming Obama for golfing and campaigning while oil still leaks in the gulf.
As to the topic in general, looks like Gibbs works for AP.
And have you noticed that even though the economy is in shambles, unemployment is through the roof, etc, that the media has not been reporting on "the homeless".
15. Posted by Hank | May 13, 2010 1:29 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:29
16. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 1:41 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Indeed, it does bear repeating. Let's look at your own quote:
In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall.
In other words, with several days warning - AND with Louisiana already declared in a state of emergency - AND with the state already requesting federal help - sufficient help didn't arrive until **three entire days** AFTER the hurricane hit.
Which is the period during which well over 1000 innocent US citizens died.
So, if Bush had taken charge and did every single thing he could to ensure that help got there as quickly as possible - then it would be hard to fault him. There's only so much that can be done.
The problem is - Bush didn't do that.
So if Obama knew there was going to be a disaster of some sort, signed some paperwork, and then ignored the news, flew around and ate cake while US citizens needed his leadership - **then** you might have a case.
But since that isn't what happened, as much as you may want to have a case, you don't.
16. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 1:41 PM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:41
17. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 1:42 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
"bodies stacked in a convention center freezer, snipers firing on rescue helicopters"."
Yeah, you wouldv'e thought "Ruby Ridge" or "Waco" again with the way the shamestream oh so bi'assed media reported on Katrina.
Would that they would view the horn adorned "One" with the same incredulous fallacies ..
17. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 1:42 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:42
18. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 1:50 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
"So, if Bush had taken charge and did every single thing he could to ensure that help got there as quickly as possible - then it would be hard to fault him. There's only so much that can be done"
It would be hard to fault him but im sure you still would. After all, your still stuck on the Bush's stole Florida 2000 meme.
"So if Obama knew there was going to be a disaster of some sort, signed some paperwork, and then ignored the news, flew around and ate cake while US citizens needed his leadership - **then** you might have a case."
Obama is the disaster unfolding before your very eyes. Wake up man.
18. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 1:50 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 13:50
19. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 2:03 PM | Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
It would be hard to fault him but im sure you still would.
Maybe you're right. The thing is, we'll never know - because he didn't do anything he could be faulted OR praised for. He basically did the worst possible thing you can when faced with a disaster - **ignore it**.
And if you're supposed to be the President and you can't even be arsed to watch the freakin' news, what possible excuse can there be for that?
19. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 2:03 PM |
Score: -5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 14:03
20. Posted by _Mike_ | May 13, 2010 2:04 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Such as... (from 05/02/10)
Gouget said when he was at NOAA, the agency created a plan that required burning off an oil spill in the region in its earliest stage, if the prevailing winds would not push the smoke and soot from the operation inland. The plan is still in effect, but was not activated last week by NOAA.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Former-NOAA-oil-spill-cleanup-boss-says-Obama-waited-too-long-in-Gulf-disaster--92631189.html#ixzz0npk4iSCj
20. Posted by _Mike_ | May 13, 2010 2:04 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 14:04
21. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 2:22 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
"He basically did the worst possible thing you can when faced with a disaster - **ignore it**."
Ha ha ah ah ah ha ha ha, these alternate realities are killing Me.
I dont think I believed him when he appeared on my TV 3 days before the storm hit and told everyone including non schoolbus Nagin to GET THE FUCK OUT!
I guess he was ignoring me when I voted absentee in 2000 and they were never counted while a bunch of ACORN cheaters voted 7everal dozen x's?
Yeah he ignored alright. I wish Hussein had half the soul George Bush has.
Now excuse Me while I go get shitfaced and try to forget the friends i've lost.
Good day!
21. Posted by 914 | May 13, 2010 2:22 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 14:22
22. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 2:46 PM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Ha ha ah ah ah ha ha ha, these alternate realities are killing Me.
Well, they're far more likely to kill you if you ignore them. : )
After all, if you believe that Bush appearing on your TV **totally proves** he didn't then go fly and play guitar, fly and have birthday cake, and then fly to scare senior citizens - rather than pay attention to the news...
...then there isn't much else I can do to wake you up, now can I?
A good day to you too.
22. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 2:46 PM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 14:46
23. Posted by WildWillie | May 13, 2010 6:09 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I guess the actual video of Blanco saying to an aid that she should have asked for help sooner.
Also Jimmy, GW can declare a state of emergency but the actual sending support and what kind is lead by local governments. Also, the levee's broke almost a full day after Katrina. So, Putz, read some articles. Nagin even said he should have had everyone evacuated. The local and state leadership failed miserably but you gloss over that fact because they are dem's. You are pathetic my friend. ww
23. Posted by WildWillie | May 13, 2010 6:09 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 18:09
24. Posted by Tsar Nicholas II | May 13, 2010 7:09 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
If Obama literally took a crap on the floor of the AP's headquarters their people would smile and say that it smelled to them like roses.
24. Posted by Tsar Nicholas II | May 13, 2010 7:09 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 19:09
25. Posted by GeneralChoomin | May 13, 2010 9:39 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Bush was taking a vacation during Katrina. If he wasn't so awful he would be know as the "vacation president". Since 1/4 the time he was in office was spent clearing brush off his ranch.
25. Posted by GeneralChoomin | May 13, 2010 9:39 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 21:39
26. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 9:50 PM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
I guess the actual video of Blanco saying to an aid that she should have asked for help sooner.
You guess what about it? Unclear - but if you want to link to the video you're talking about, I'll look at it.
Otherwise, maybe she was saying she should have asked for it two weeks before the hurricane landed, because 2 days apparently wasn't enough. Although it still would have cut into Bush's cake-with-Mccain time, which was apparently the real issues.
Also Jimmy, GW can declare a state of emergency but the actual sending support and what kind is lead by local governments.
So WildyWillie-y, how are the local governments supposed to send and coordinate Federal aid, if the Federal Aid doesn't show up?
Also, the levee's broke almost a full day after Katrina.
And? How does that mean Bush gets off the hook for *****not even watching the news****?????
So, Putz, read some articles.
Ok, poopoo doodyhead. You read some too. You can start with the articles I referenced previously.
Nagin even said he should have had everyone evacuated. The local and state leadership failed miserably but you gloss over that fact because they are dem's.
Please explain to me how the local governments "failure" to force Bush to watch the news and realize they needed more help, excuses Bush from ****even watching the news****. Let alone caring enough to maybe postpone a photo op or three.
You are pathetic my friend. ww
I am neither. Nyah nyah. jx
26. Posted by jim x | May 13, 2010 9:50 PM |
Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on May 13, 2010 21:50
27. Posted by _Mike_ | May 14, 2010 8:53 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
jim x:
Are you so dim as to not realize that the President of the U.S. has much better sources of information than the nightly news ? Seriously, is that how you think the President of the U.S. keeps abreast of what's going on in the world ? Surely you're just not that stupid ?
27. Posted by _Mike_ | May 14, 2010 8:53 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on May 14, 2010 08:53
28. Posted by baboy | May 16, 2010 10:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
@_Mike_I
Yes, actually, after reading a few of his posts, I believe he is that stupid. He is one of the 'blame Bush' crowd, blaming Bush for doing nothing when it was LA leadership who had the obligation to deal with the situation, and they absolutely did NOT want Bush to bring FEMA in, until late in the game. Bush's actions either would not have changed the death toll; most of those deaths were due to the levee's collapsing, and since he doesn't have a crystal ball, I can't see him dealing with that proactively.
Of course, tard_x thinks Bush caused the levee collapse, so, why are we feeding the troll?
28. Posted by baboy | May 16, 2010 10:38 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on May 16, 2010 22:38