And who can we attribute at least some of this impasse too? Thats right, Barry the great uniter. Geez, has he done anything right from day one? NO. Thats what I figured.

One empty gesture deserves another.

It would... almost be funny watching this from a distance. I'm thinking there'd be someone on the phone from LA with an apology about five minutes after the power went out.

Thirty seconds later, the news folk would be calling.

15 seconds after that - the lawyers.

Will LA now boycott Costa Mesa?
http://www.ocregister.com/news/city-249397-immigration-mansoor.html

Screw that. Cut off all of California's water.

This is example of a rare, constitutionally legitimate issue for our federal goverment to address--interstate commerce. (And by "rare" I'm referring to the fact the most of what our current federal government does is well beyond what it was authorized to do by the Constitution.)

Unfortunately the outrageous lies told by the president the rest of his regime (including the "MSM") have fueled this controversy-- the exact opposite of what the federal government is supposed to do.

Oh, I get it, that's what Barack meant by "fundamental transformation"-- he meant he was going to do everything ass backwards.

I would like to see them do it for about 30 seconds and say "oops, someeone must have tripped over a line or something".

I think from now on I will refer to Barakulus as "Barry UniteUs"..

Pancho Villarigosa is in DC giving Pres Lupe Calderon a blow job. Probably asking for more illegals to be sent up so Pancho can continue to run for office. His spokesman says that Pancho won't "respond to threats".

Perhaps his 'spokesman' can elaborate on the 'threats' from LA. If you've never been to a 3rd world country, I urge you to visit East LA. Just stay in your car, don't stop, and bring a gun.

P. Bunyan:

Unfortunately the outrageous lies told by the president the rest of his regime (including the "MSM") have fueled this controversy-

President Obama is going to back to what he knows best - recall he spent years as a community agitator. The problem is that the tactics of fomenting civil unrest only work when you're not the one in charge of government.

Oh and I've got 3 words for AZ - "Pull The Plug!" (is state assisted state suicide legal?)

I think they should do it - let the eco whack jobs in L.A. see how well their city runs on unicorn farts and pixie dandruff - like they're trying to do to the rest of us.

This is not an act of retaliation, it's just an attempt to help the Californians be more successful in their boycott of Arizona and all it produces.

Proving two things most of us older residents of California have known for years.

1. Pols here are mostly stupid.

2. Ditto the folks who elected them.

Want Proof?

Who would be dumb enought to throw away 500,000 good well paying manufacturing jobs?

Who would be dumb enough to cut off water to the farmers who are the last exporters of something normal people in the rest of the country need?

Who would be dumb enought to avoid building the electrical generating capacity to supply the state and then complain because the people who do want to charge you for the power?

And the list goes on.

"Arizona threatens to pull California's power plug"

How would Kalifornia respond?

A.) Blame white christian gunslingin hillbillie bootleggin rightwingers.

B.) Blame Boooosh.

C.) Cut off the flow of illegals to AZ.

D.) Riot, kill and mame in a fashion remniscient of Ghengis Khan.

E.) All of the above cept for C.

Pull the plug for 4 hours. The citizens will get the message. Californians should stick to California's problems only. ww

In a perfect world Barry would not have been selecte... Scratch that thought.

"But... but... YOU aren't supposed to boycott US!!!"

This "boycott" is a lot like Cindy Sheehan's hunger strikes, a Senate fillibuster, or John "Yosemite Sam" McCain's status as a rock-ribbed Republican:

IN NAME ONLY.

One thing that just befuddles Me. I've lived in this country for nearly 50 years and as a natural born citizen ( not the big eared type ) I have documentation. Everywhere I have gone and everything financial you have to do sustain yourself, i.e. Buying a house, property, what have you requires personal identification such as drivers liscense's, S.S. cards and the like. So how the hell do they do it?

Illegally?

One empty gesture deserves another.

Except one isn't an empty gesture - it's a fist to the balls.

Good for Arizona. Keep those racist electrons from defiling the liberal purity of la-la land. Make LA's fruitcakes bend the knee, and rescind the City Council resolution, then raise their electricity rates just to show 'em who's boss.

Nice symbolism, although they probably couldn't do anything unilaterally at least until current contracts expire.

By that time, LA in particular and CA in general will likely be in receivership, so they will have to negotiate the new rates with whoever the Court appoints as Special Master.

Well, most people in L.A. are dim bulbs, so this is quite apropos on many levels.

Nice symbolism, although they probably couldn't do anything unilaterally at least until current contracts expire.

Jim, true, but a guy can dream, can't he?

LA - hell, SF and even SD - could use some reality therapy.

I would really love to have a look at that contract. Normally, a government contract is protected out the yahoo - I guarantee AZ is looking to see what is connected to that power line. If the power goes to hospitals, police stations, and so on, they pretty much to leave the power on. If it's 'general use', however, well that's a whole different situation. And yes, it would take someone pretty stupid to sign a contract that would allow the supplier to cancel it quicky, let's not forget Governor Grey Davis - Enron (yes that Enron) offered a contract in 2000 to LA and various major population areas for emergency power (seems Cali was sucking way more power than it had provided for in the original contracts) which basically said 'you will pay whatever we demand' and Gov. Davis signed it pretty much without reading it. Would not shock me at all if the present contract had some surprises in it.

Worse for Cali, AZ can sell its extra power pretty easily. It's located in a grid which allows it to sell to other states, the Feds, and more than a few corporate bidders.

Also, having worked with contracts I also wonder if this one has clauses in it about 'good faith' - a boycott against the state of Arizona would contitute breach of contract if such a clause was in there - AZ could possibly not only shut off the lights, but send a final bill with a termination penalty.

Wa-ha.

I would assume that vital services would have a backup source. However, in the event they do not, can one state be required to render services to another that is purposefully trying to financially damage them? Im not a lawyer but I say no.

Mayor Antonio Villaragosa is a fake, just like his name - real name Tony Valar. He changed it to pander to Hispanics in LA. That city has done nothing but gone down hill since he became major. But he just took up where the Hahn family left off. Given the quality of education in LA in the past 20 years, they've succeeded in dumbing down the population sufficiently to insure that the 'ruling elite' will continue in perpetuity. Everyone with common sense has left.

That answers my question about the generator then.

Breaking news in Orange County:

ORANGE - A 17-year-old deported felon has barricaded himself inside Tacos Garcia near Glassell Street and Collins Avenue, police said. The teen's mother, who was also inside the taqueria, has been detained, said Orange police Sgt. Dan Adams.

The situation began at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday when Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers went to the taqueria at 918 North Glassell St. looking for a deported felon who had sneaked back in the country, Adams said.
The detention and removal officers were conducting routine enforcement activities and were working on a lead that the teen, who had been previously deported, was at the business, said ICE spokeswoman Lori Haley.

The teen threw a blender or a meat grinder at one of the officers and then ran to a restroom inside the business and barricaded himself, Adams said, adding that the officer was not injured. Haley declined to comment about the teen's immigration status citing ICE's privacy guidelines, but did say his criminal record stemmed from weapon-related charges.

Negotiators are trying to get the teen to surrender. They have been talking on the phone with someone inside the business, possibly a relative, Adams said. "We'll be here until he comes out," Adams said. The teen has not yet been publicly identified. Once he is detained, he will be facing assault with a deadly weapon charges for attacking the ICE, Adams said.

I'm sure Lee Ward will vouch for this young man's integrity. Some RACIST! cop probably FRAMED this young man in the past, thus destroying his dreams of a happy future.

Negotiators are trying to get the teen to surrender. Democrats are trying to get him to run for office.

Calderon pissed on the United States today...from the fucking ROSE GARDEN!! With Obama standing there with a massive erection!

hell, Barry's probably watching the video of Calderon pissing on us up in the Oval Office and whacking off!

2012 can't come fast enough!

Well Arizona ought to do it and when California bitches then the Gov of Arizona can say that she is just trying to help california solve their budget deficits. If California doesnt spend money on electricy produced in Arizona they have more money to spend elsewhere.

"hell, Barry's probably watching the video of Calderon pissing on us up in the Oval Office and whacking off!"

I would too if my wife looked like a wookie! Thank God She dont.

On the bright side of illegal behavior, Husseins ill concieved control over our economy will end in just about in t-minus 6 months and counting.

Yeeehawwwww!!!!!!

Arizona, wait until August AND PULL THE PLUG!!
Or the first time LA pays you with an IOU, whichever comes first. They're already on the verge of bankruptcy. Maybe Tony Valar is asking Calderon for a loan.

tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic...

Hurry the fuc up already!

PULL THE PLUG! THAT WILL TEACH THEM TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS!! TO HELL WITH THEM-"PUT UP OR SHUT UP" CALIFORNIA! HECK, THEY CAN'T EVEN RUN THEIR OWN STATE-WHY THE HELL SHOULD THEY TELL OTHERS HOW TO RUN THEIRS!!! MAKE AND EXAMPLE OF LOS ANGELES! WHEN THEY START PAYING MORE IN AUGUST-THEY WILL THINK TWICE ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF THE LA CITY "CLOWN COUNCIAL"

If AZ chooses to "Terminate" the extension of POWER to KaliFornia they better damn be sure every female in the U.S. Named Sara Connor has been trailer trashed. Or Ahnold will whip out his fiscally sound nightstic and shove their bio-meds right up their collective .....'s

Alright Im gettin ridiculous.. But what would you call the Obama shebacle thus far?

Camelot? No, not white enough.

FDR'ish, Nah, no balls.

Carter????????????????????// Well he sure has brought a lot of misery and he hates jews, so yeah. That one fits.

The loud mouth Arizona racist doesn't have the power to pull the plug. He's just another big-mouthed bigot who talks big...

The Arizona Republic hilariously contends, "California utilities paid part of the cost of building [Arizona's] Palo Verde [Nuclear Generating Station], and pay their share of the fuel and operations, so Arizona can't take away the power they get from the plant.

And the Corporation Commission has no jurisdiction over merchant power plants that sell power from Arizona to California."

How very feeble this Gary Pierce is, yet how formidable his official logo suggests he would be! Devastating, verily.

lol... You guys who keep calling for AZ to pull the plug tree barking up the wrong tree. They can't pull the plug.

Lee Ward BULLSHIT ARTIST!

Hey Lee, READ the fucking letter. There are no threats! You seem to have a real hard time READING. You even graduate from GRADE SCHOOL?

He's merely pointing out the BULLSHIT LA threat of boycotting "selectively".

Can you COMPREHEND that?

In summary and to recap, Barry incites a riot. Barry ignores his other woman in the gulf. Barry does his damndest to destroy the constituition, Barry fails to answer one question since the erection. Barry hates us. Yeah, that sums it up.

Good night Beautiful People, Im gonna get trashed!! As if Im not.

Lee bigotry-

"The loud mouth Arizona racist doesn't have the power to pull the plug. He's just another big-mouthed bigot who talks big..."

Kinda like U, minus the big mouth.

Sorry, could not let such bigotry go unanswered.

Lee Ward

Why is it when a republican wants to follow the law that it is bigotry? But when dems choose to break them than it is about fairness and equality.

What was the battle cry for 8 years of Bush about Iraq? It was an illegal war.

yet here we have the Obama administration supporting ILLEGALS BREAKING THE LAW and you have no problem with it and you call people racists who dont share your opinion.

I believe you are the racist. After all I have as much facts about you being a racist as you calling the AZ power chief a racist.

Lee Ward of the state, when was the last time you had your mouth washed out with soap? Before or after you voted for the worst president possible?

I expect an honest answer out of an idiot like I expect a frozen popsicle to pop out of a toaster oven.

"I believe you are the racist. After all I have as much facts about you being a racist as you calling the AZ power chief a racist."

Lee is also a registered pedophile. I have as many 'facts' to back that up as Lee does calling Pierce a "racist!".

But Lee is only repeating the liberal mantra on this. Every one of the DNC news outlets in Kalifornia is spouting off about Pierce's "THREAT". When no THREAT was made. They also IGNORED the hypocrisy of their THREATENED BOYCOTT of Arizona and it's SELECTIVITY.

Unscathed

Unscathed? Unscated? To idiots like lee the child prevert., thats right I said it! You sicko, I knew there was something about you that stunk to high hell!

Lee Ward quite simply is a loser in life and he takes out his bitterness here. So so sad.

Lee, you really are that simple. Here, just for you is the full text of the letter sent;

Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies -- a vote you strongly supported -- to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

You explained your support of the boycott as follows: "While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars -- or the withholding of our dollars -- to send a message." (emphasis added)

I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona's electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the "resources and ties" we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona's utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona's economy.

People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

Sincerely,

Commissioner Gary Pierce

You may notice that he doesn't threaten to "pull the plug," but more as a neighborly gesture, wants to help Major Viva La Raza meet his goal of boycotting Arizona.

Of course, if the Mayor of LA actually had any balls, he would follow through.

But you, like him, are typical of that ilk, never bother to read the law, or the letter, just knee jerk react and resort to calling everyone a racist.

It's called the law Lee, read it, know it, live it. If you don't like it, move to Mexico, or some other garden spot on the globe. Oh, wait, they have immigration laws and enforce them, DAMN!

Everyone is learning post by mother f-n post that Lee is a Racist of the dimocrat kind.

Keep'em on the res and we have no prob. Right Lee? Problem is this is your Alamo Lee. And you are going to lose. LOSER.

Leeward wrote:

You guys who keep calling for AZ to pull the plug tree barking up the wrong tree.

It would be 2 triangles with a parallelagram shoved straight up the two wazoozis.

Diagram it? How about we just have nightmares about it?

Don't be so harsh on Lee. He's a liberal, so he probably was referring to pulling a butt plug.

If Lee Ward was permently banned than the average IQ of trolls on this site would go up by 100 points and we wouldnt have so much racism and hatred posted here.

watching the attacks on lee i have to say tea baggers are a hateful bunch.

watching the attacks on lee i have to say tea baggers are a hateful bunch.

Yeah, they should allow BULLSHIT artists to say what they want, without question.

Spelling, grammar and punctuation are also graded.

Hey Fred, if you're going to call me a tebagger you should be willing to make it true -- want a taste?

The only thing we hate around here are lying self-righteous trolls like Lee Ward and ... you.

watching the attacks on lee i have to say tea baggers are a hateful bunch.

Yeah, they should allow BULLSHIT artists to say what they want, without question.

Spelling, grammar and punctuation are also graded.
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Like I was saying, hateful bunch. Rather childish too.

Well rightsaidfred if you don't like it here, there's the door, DON'T LET IT HIT YOU IN THE FUCKING ASS ON THE WAY OUT.

Oh, and have a nice day!

Hey Fred, if you're going to call me a tebagger you should be willing to make it true -- want a taste?

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normally I would ignore such childish hate, but isn't that what your mom is for?

Well rightsaidfred if you don't like it here, there's the door, DON'T LET IT HIT YOU IN THE FUCKING ASS ON THE WAY OUT.
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Easy, there tough guy. Getting that angry you're liable to beat your wife and kids or abuse small animals.

"Easy, there tough guy. Getting that angry you're liable to beat your wife and kids or abuse small animals."

Actually I'm just a mellow guy who doesn't tolerate BULLSHIT artists like Lee who just make crap up as they go.

Tell me, have you stopped beating your wife and dog yet? Sounds like projection on your part.

"Easy, there tough guy. Getting that angry you're liable to beat your wife and kids or abuse small animals."

Actually I'm just a mellow guy who doesn't tolerate BULLSHIT artists like Lee who just make crap up as they go.

Tell me, have you stopped beating your wife and dog yet? Sounds like projection on your part.
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Nah, I'm not as hateful as a guy like you. Basically you hate Lee, because he doesn't conform to your odd views of reality.

Nah, I'm not as hateful as a guy like you. Basically you hate Lee, because he doesn't conform to your odd views of reality."

Oh, what witty repartee. Think that up all by yourself or did Mom help with the big words? For someone who has never met me, you sure make a lot of assumptions.

Oh, what witty repartee. Think that up all by yourself or did Mom help with the big words? For someone who has never met me, you sure make a lot of assumptions.
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Thank you. I'm certainly wittier than you, but that is besides the point. We were talking about your anger issues. Your tendecy to attack others and my assumption that you are hateful for your tendency to attack others. yes quite a leap I made. I wonder where I got that?

"I wonder where I got that?"

Beats me. Looks like you just jumped into the middle of a thread and started making judgments.

"I wonder where I got that?"

Beats me. Looks like you just jumped into the middle of a thread and started making judgments.

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Well, some of us smart guys know that a thread on a blog doesn't disapear in the wind like say the a conversation you might have missed, it's there for all to read. So it really doesn't matter if you jump in the middle now does it? This might suprise you, but psst, your posts are still there to read. I could jump on this thread tommorw and still know what happend.

Anyway it was after i read your profanity laced tirades that I concluded you were a rather angry, person.

"Anyway it was after i read your profanity laced tirades that I concluded you were a rather angry, person."

And you say I have a problem with reality?

Anyway it was after i read your profanity laced tirades that I concluded you were a rather angry, person."

And you say I have a problem with reality?

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Yes.

I'd really like to converse further rightsaidfred, but three points:

1) Don't jump in the middle of something and think you know all that has gone on before.
2) "Smart" - don't flatter yourself. Allow others to do it. It then means more.
3) My show is on, one of the few I watch in that vast wasteland and I'll get more out of it than carrying on a conversation with you.

Have a nice night.

I'd really like to converse further rightsaidfred, but three points:

1) Don't jump in the middle of something and think you know all that has gone on before.
2) "Smart" - don't flatter yourself. Allow others to do it. It then means more.
3) My show is on, one of the few I watch in that vast wasteland and I'll get more out of it than carrying on a conversation with you.

Have a nice night.
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. As a guy i know recently posted in one of his profanity laced tirades.

Ub70.

Yes you do... But Barry will overlook it in this tragic oversighter!!

"Basically you hate Lee, because he doesn't conform to your odd views of reality."

Hate? Why bother hating the insane and intolerant? It's not worth the effort.

Besides, Lee's actually a bot. Completely programmed, can't be argued with, will do a 180 opinion skid turn when the politics dictates. Was totally for Hillary and hated Obama with a blazing passion when SHE was the Dem favorite, and when Obama got the nod all of a sudden he couldn't say enough bad about her.

(Shrug.)

He goes directly with the line coming out of the DNC. No reasoning with that - he's a political machine.

As someone, I think, posted earlier, this is a good issue to talk with students and or your children about; one of the TRUE things the Fed. government is responsible for. Very teachable moment showing how this, if it could be carried out, is exactly what the commerce clause is for, you can then show how the Fed's have overstepped their bounds and do many, many things that aren't in their jurisdiction according to the Constitution.

I have to admit AZ is teaching us alot. If more states and citizens begin to wake up and show the cajones that this state and it's ppl are, perhaps the looming Facist, nanny staters can be denied.

"You may notice that he doesn't threaten to "pull the plug," but more as a neighborly gesture, wants to help Major Viva La Raza meet his goal of boycotting Arizona."

Which explains that the headline of this post is bullshit?

"Arizona threatens to pull California's power plug"

No, the asshat was threatening - he just didn't have the power, authority or even permission to issue such a threat.

But he got the rubes up on their hind legs and barking. Huzzah! Shut Kaleefornia down, baby!

I wasn't laughing with you, Wizbang trolls...

"Which explains that the headline of this post is bullshit?"

And you'd have been right to post such a comment. Happens all the time in the liberal press. Inflammatory headline, until you read the article. But Lee, you went on to call Pierce a RACIST! Do you PERSONALLY know something that might support that statement?

Or were you merely repeating the liberal mantra without bothering to check facts. You know, like you normally do.

"No, the asshat was threatening"

BULLSHIT! Read the letter. The guy was pointing out their hypocrisy.

As I previously noted, you buy into the mantra without checking facts.

"No, the asshat was threatening - he just didn't have the power, authority or even permission to issue such a threat"

Since when do you need permission to issue a threat?? Anyway, its a promise not a threat.

Frankly i hope they cutt off the power to hollyweed right when their doing another movie by OLIVER STONE or MICHEAL MOORE are ruins their cameras and lights