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Why stop there?

Why not foot the bill for a romantic evening out at a poshe restaurant, some flowers, maybe a movie and then a nice hotel... after all, it's just a few more dollars and isn't it what most kids would want?

High school students and college-age adults have been complaining to District officials that the free condoms the city has been offering are not of good enough quality and are too small and that getting them from school nurses is "just like asking grandma or auntie."

So D.C. officials have decided to stock up on Trojan condoms, including the company's super-size Magnum variety, and they have begun to authorize teachers or counselors, preferably male, to distribute condoms to students if the teachers complete a 30-minute online training course called "WrapMC" -- for Master of Condoms.

"If people get what they don't want, they are just going to trash them," said T. Squalls, 30, who attends the University of the District of Columbia. "So why not spend a few extra dollars and get what people want?"

Health officials and consumer advocates say that in terms of preventing pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, there's no difference between Trojans and the less-expensive Durex condoms that the city is offering.

But because Trojans are considered the better-known brand, city officials say, they are willing to spend an extra few thousand dollars a year to try to persuade sexually active teenagers to practice safer sex. The Durex condoms will still be offered.

"We thought making condoms available was a good thing, but we never asked the kids what they wanted," said D.C. Council member David A. Catania (I-At Large), chairman of the health committee.

Isn't the function of government to fullfill all our wants?

Crossposted at Brutally Honest.


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"But because Trojans are co... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"But because Trojans are considered the better-known brand, city officials say, they are willing to spend an extra few thousand dollars a year...."

Wonder if the food stamp people will be able to get "Kobe beef" instead of the store brand?

Cheap condoms break and are... (Below threshold)
matt:

Cheap condoms break and are not much better than no condom at all. The economic benefits of distributing useful prophylactics are obvious: unprotected sex among teenagers leads to STD transmission and pregnancy. It's expensive for society when teenagers have kids and it's a burden on the medical system when teenagers get STDs.

Fucking morons.

I concur with Matt to the e... (Below threshold)
James H:

I concur with Matt to the extent that existing ptophylactics may not be fully ... ahem .. functional.

"The economic benefits o... (Below threshold)
Geoffrey Britain:

"The economic benefits of distributing useful prophylactics are obvious: unprotected sex among teenagers leads to STD transmission and pregnancy. It's expensive for society when teenagers have kids and it's a burden on the medical system when teenagers get STDs." Matt

What about the social disadvantages that promiscuity brings?

And for those who would respond that the kids are going to do it anyway, they might (but they won't) consider that it's exactly that rationale that led to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recent policy change, essentially promoting female genital mutilation (FGM) by advocating for federal and state laws to be changed, to enable pediatricians to "reach out" to Muslim families by offering a 'ritual nick', such as pricking or minor incisions of girls' clitorises.

Just because you know, they're "going to do it anyway".

Whose the moron again Matt?

Now, tell us that it's not the same thing...

"Scientists and D.C. health... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"Scientists and D.C. health officials said the appeal of Trojan condoms can be attributed to the company's marketing strategy, including the packaging of Magnums in a shiny, gold wrapper. "The gold package certainly has a little bit of the bling quality," said Michael Kharfen."

So matt, who is 'the fucking moron'. Nothing about QUALITY, all about BLING.

Hey! Here's a thought. How about teaching kids how to look at ads and commercials? You know, use your fucking head and think it through. Nah, better not. Next thing ya know, you'll be thinking for yourself. Can't have that in Washington. And besides, it's only taxpayer money.

But 'it don't mean a thing ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

But 'it don't mean a thing if it ain't got no bling'.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/as-economic-worries-worsen-white-house-puts-on-the-glitz-94648609.html

Anyone know that the recession is still on-going? That there are still two wars going on? What was that about Bush 'going golfing?'
Fucking hypocrites!

But I thought the point was... (Below threshold)
jim m:

But I thought the point was to let teenagers get pregnant and then provide them with government funded abortions

Jim says: "But I thought... (Below threshold)
Highlander:

Jim says: "But I thought the point was to let teenagers get pregnant and then provide them with government funded abortions"

That of course is a conservative proposal; liberals have more foresight: no pregnancy - no abortion.

Highlander,In ligh... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Highlander,

In light of recent studies showing that abstinence education actually works I might back off the foresight claim.

Abstinence-only education <... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

Abstinence-only education doesn't work.

As the first five-year funding cycle of Title V came to a close, a few state-funded evaluations became public. Others were completed with little or no fanfare. This document reviews the findings from the 10 evaluations that Advocates for Youth was able to identify. Advocates for Youth also includes evaluation results from California's earlier attempt at a statewide abstinence-only initiative. [..]

Summary of Results

Evaluation of these 11 programs showed few short-term benefits and no lasting, positive impact. A few programs showed mild success at improving attitudes and intentions to abstain. No program was able to demonstrate a positive impact on sexual behavior over time. A description follows of short- and long-term impacts, by indicator.

Abstinence-only education doesn't work.

Lee,<a href="http:... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Lee,

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2002/04/The-Effectiveness-of-Abstinence-Education-Programs

The Heritage foundation cites studies from places such as the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health and results from schools districts in NY, UT, AR, OH and elsewhere.

Your link is to an organization that is founded for the purpose of promoting safe sex and contraception distribution for teenagers. Is it a surprise then that your link claims that there is no benefit from abstinence education?

I would suggest that the school districts and the independent studies make a more convincing argument than your biased and elf serving BS.

Er...That should have been ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Er...That should have been self serving.

But while we are here let's look at he findings of he National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health:

the study found that participating in an abstinence program and taking a formal pledge of virginity were by far the most significant factors in a youth's delaying early sexual activity. The study compared students who had taken a formal pledge of virginity with students who had not taken a pledge but were otherwise identical in terms of race, income, school performance, degree of religiousness, and other social and demographic factors.

Damn it sucks when a government funded study shows your liberal bias to be a bunch of unsubstantiated crap.

Now perhaps you can tell us how a peer reviewed medical journal (JAMA) published such misleading information.

"I would suggest that the s... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"I would suggest that the school districts and the independent studies make a more convincing argument than your biased and self serving BS."

You mean that you expect more from Lee Ward, BULLSHIT ARTIST!(TM)?

Isn't that setting the bar a little too high?

Should we really expect any... (Below threshold)
Tsar Nicholas II:

Should we really expect anything different from a city in which a crackhead can become mayor??

Abstinence-only... (Below threshold)
Abstinence-only education doesn't work.
In Lee's case, neither did the abortion. I wonder how much his mother won in the wrongful-birth lawsuit.
I think it would be perfect... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

I think it would be perfectly reasonable to discuss expanding the mission of the public schools beyond the basic education of students IF they were doing a good job of that.

Or should that be "WHEN" they are?

Charter schools and voucher programs are a start, but in the end making public schools effective again will require prohibiting anyone who has ever been a member of a teachers' union from being within 1000 feet of a school.

If there are an sane voters... (Below threshold)

If there are an sane voters in DC, they need to fire their school board. You can not prevent teenage pregnancy by encouraging teen sexual activity. You can not stop the spread of STD by encouraging sexual activity.

When deployed overseas I fo... (Below threshold)
epador:

When deployed overseas I found a nifty way to encourage condom distribution. At the counter of the clinic sat three containers labeled regular, large and extra-large. All I had to do was keep refilling the extra-large container from the other two and we distributed three times the normal amount.

As noted above, its all in the marketing.

You know that condoms do not prevent HPV or Herpes, lice, scabies, oral genital spread of any STD and by themselves are a poor contraceptive choice if used alone (as they most commonly are by adolescents).

So while they help a little, they do not compare in effectiveness to abstinence and monogamy. They offer a false sense of security to adolescents that already suffer from denial of risk in their daily activities. By sanctioning and promoting the use of the condoms WITHOUT ongoing counseling, they are probably more dangerous than helpful.

Epador, you said it all - t... (Below threshold)
Candy:

Epador, you said it all - thank you.




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