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President Hedley Lamarr's Phoney Baloney Jobs

Great news! Non farm payrolls rose by 431,000 last month.

The not so great news: 411,000 of those jobs were census worker temp jobs.

While he was stumping in Pittsburgh on Wednesday the President had this to say:

"We expect to see strong jobs growth in Friday's report," Obama said in a speech in Pittsburgh. "This economy is getting stronger by the day."

Temporary census worker jobs are phoney baloney jobs that do nothing to promote long term growth. The economy is not getting stronger by the day and the President knows this, but that won't keep him from demagoguing about it. Once again we are reminded of the disconnect between this president and the private sector. It's embarrassing that this president actually believes he can slide this rhetoric by what he must view as an increasingly gullible electorate.

Correction:

My colleague Baron Von Ottomatic notes that the historically correct title of this post should be "President William J. Lepetomane's Phoney Baloney Jobs". I have been besieged by the local Chapter of Blazing Saddles Advanced Studies PhD's for this error. In retrospect, Lepetomane and Lamarr are both suitably odious and comical characters to use in this post. My apologies to all Blazing Saddles aficionados.


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You know, one way to stiffe... (Below threshold)

You know, one way to stiffen the jobs numbers might be to get citizens or legal immigrants into them, so they'll be counted.

Not only would it improve the jobs report, the citizens who got those jobs just might be grateful -- and they're already eligible to vote!

Of course, that would be pandering to the tea party types. Can't have that, now can we?

I'm starting to wonder whet... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

I'm starting to wonder whether Obama even WANTS to know the 'truth'. I think he's got this pleasing fantasy going about how he's the most effective President ever, and his staff are gladly supporting that...

What would be interesting t... (Below threshold)
Dave:

What would be interesting to find out is how many of those 411,000 census jobs are real, actual "jobs" and not potemkin hires to inflate the number of jobs. After all, wasn't the Census Bureau commandeered by the White House for this census? Wonder if The One didn't tell his people to hire as many applicants as possible to inflate his job creation numbers?

A strong free press should ... (Below threshold)

A strong free press should be pushing him on employment and the economy (along with the Gulf and illegal job offers) every time they are asking him ques....

oh right...he's not taking questions anymore. I guess when your spokesman admits to White House lawbreaking in his attempt to say they did nothing wrong and refers reporters to a memo to answer a question that is not answered in the memo, even after numerous reporters openly state that the memo does not answer the questions, we shouldn't be shocked that they don't want to talk to the press.

I guess unless they plan to nationalize the press sooner (rather than later) the next 'best' thing is to just clam up.

"We expect to see strong... (Below threshold)
914:

"We expect to see strong jobs growth in Friday's report," Obama said in a speech in Pittsburgh. "This economy is getting stronger by the day."


He must actually think he has a chance of being reselected? Either that or he really is as dumb as he looks.

Hahaahahahahhaha -22 trillion debt = a net growth of 20,000 + or - the 11,000,000 He emitted pink slips to temporary workers ( I know, I did it in 2000 ) and I counted all illegals in there respective households.

We cant be so bad off that we elected this pathetic fool? I could run circles around this mythological man in my lowest moment.

Sorry, my "give a ... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Sorry, my "give a shit meter" has been inop for over a year now, it was never built to withstand that kind of stress.

Given the current situation, IF we can last for the balance of Obama's term, this is going to be regarded as good.

Everyone here knows what the solution is,my only question is, are you willing to do the work necessary to effect the solution?

My bet is YES.

Sure would like to try out ... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Sure would like to try out the stuff that "0" has been smoking the last 18 months. Must be be really excellent stuff to go blindly about your job and never do anything of substance any time he is checked on. Also to break every law that is on the books and saying the Bush Administration made me do it doesn't wash too well either.

Lord Obama said it is good ... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

Lord Obama said it is good news, dammit...so it is GOOD NEWS!!

[btw, I hate to have to ask, but have we always been at war with Eastasia??]

WARNING: MORON COMMENT ALER... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

WARNING: MORON COMMENT ALERT

BE PREPARED FOR RACE BAITING, OFF TOPIC RANTS AND STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS

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"Great news! Non farm payrolls rose by 431,000 last month.

The not so great news: 411,000 of those jobs were census worker temp jobs."

Not so great news? For who?

411,000 people working, spending money in their communities, not collecting unemployment... THAT'S BAD NEWS? seriously?

This matches precisely what I've been saying. REPUBLICANS WANT THE COUNTRY TO FAIL.

Republicans like it when non-farm payrolls DROP.

And factoring out the Census jobs, non-farm payrolls still rose 20,000 last month.

It didn't drop -- sad, how sad. Non-farm payrolls didn't fall - and that has the conservatives saddened.

More Americans are working - fewer Americans are unemployed.

That makes Republicans sad - and rather pathetic. No, make that very pathetic.

Look on the right side, Hugh. Maybe next month the jobs number were be negative - Woo Hoo, something to look forward to!?!?

Pathetic. Simply pathetic. When did you people stop cheering for America?

When a black man too office, that's when.

Since when does the private... (Below threshold)
Tsar Nicholas II:

Since when does the private sector even matter to a devout Marxist?

"President Hedly Lamarr" --... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

"President Hedly Lamarr" -- I love it! And we need Sheriff Bart and the Kid to come to our rescue right now.

Hey Lee,Say if som... (Below threshold)
Deke:

Hey Lee,

Say if someone like JC Watts had won the election and you were on here bashing his policies and decisions..would you be doing that simply because he was black?

Pathetic Lee, simply pathet... (Below threshold)
Geoffrey Britain:

Pathetic Lee, simply pathetic.

You got nothing.

You know it and now you know, we know it.

Private sector jobs are what count.

Temporary, inflated in #, public jobs are a band-aid.

Pretending otherwise is dishonest.

We know it doesn't bother you, reality being a 'relative construct' and all, but when the slight of hand is so easily exposed, defending it exposes you for a fool.

When 322,000 in May exhausted their unemployment benefits and are still out of work, it's dishonest to no longer count them.

Over 6 MILLION out of work, who want to work, and 41,000 real jobs created.

18 months into the Obama administration, over 4 years in control of Congress and in just the past 18 months, TRILLIONS in new debt and what we get is 41,000 real jobs.

That's an utter failure by any measure.

Your response: pull the race card...

WARNING: Crap Posted by Lee... (Below threshold)

WARNING: Crap Posted by Lee Ward

Lee, no one cares what "you've been saying."

Unemployment has doubled under the Obama regime.

Conservatives care about that.

You obviously think the additional 5% can all go fuck themselves, and shut up while the boy "genius" continues swinging his crypto-Marxist wrecking ball (the one with the picture of Che on it).

Sorry, but while you think its peachy to sacrifice hopes and dreams on the socialist experiment, experience tells us Obama's reactionary socialism suck.

It impoverishes and destroys.

Lee:This is a path... (Below threshold)
Patrick:

Lee:

This is a pathetic response even for you. I want Obama to fail so our country never sees the likes of him in charge ever again. His philosophy about governance is the antithesis of what made this country great. He cares not a whit about a robust private economy and if he did he would not be touting this pathetic employment report. I am tired of being told things are getting better when it is obvious to anybody with a brain that things are not getting better and will likely get worse. Keep sticking your head in the sand but the rest of us are being realistic because when things come crashing down it will be you that is shocked not us.

And for a group of people who cheered on our enemies while we were at war it is a bit rich to be lectured by the likes of you.

Something for the Lee Wards... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Something for the Lee Wards of this world to consider here. Who is paying the wages of the 411,000 census workers? The Government you say? Well, where does the Government get the money to pay those wages? I will tell you where. The money comes out of "OUR" (yours and mine) pockets as the taxpayers. Another question here: When everyone is on the dole and/or works for the Government, who is going to pay for the dole and the salaries? Ponder that before you spout off with your liberal horsehit next time.

"HARUMP, HARUMP, HARUMP!" <... (Below threshold)
Rick13:

"HARUMP, HARUMP, HARUMP!"

Hey, I didn't get a "HARUMP" out of "Big Mo"...

Just read #9. Oh my!<... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

Just read #9. Oh my!

OK for everyone else, I can only think of three answers that fit these facts and aren't overly complicated that explain his post #9.

1. Lee Ward is a toadie for the Obama Administration.

2. Lee Ward is indeed, just that stupid.

3. Lee Ward is a cock-walloping asshole.

If you would like, please start your posts with your your pick (just use the numbers 1, 2 or 3). And use "4" if you think it's something other than my three choices.

No, I don't even want to try and say something substantive about his post.

Pathetic Lee, s... (Below threshold)
Pathetic Lee, simply pathetic.
You say that like it's not his normal state.
RE: "'We expect to s... (Below threshold)
kevino:

RE: "'We expect to see strong jobs growth in Friday's report,' Obama said in a speech in Pittsburgh. 'This economy is getting stronger by the day.'" [emphasis mine]

So when unemployment continues unchecked, the lapdog media will report that the bad news is [... wait for it ...] unexpected.

The point here is that 411,... (Below threshold)
Dave:

The point here is that 411,000 temporary census jobs only serves to allow Obama to demagogue about how great he is. What happens to these folks when the census is completed?
You see, Lee, what conservatives care about is the FUTURE of this country-getting folks back to work full time and permanently; not serving as a feel good backdrop to the Narcissist-in-Chief.

WARNING: MORON COMMENT ALER... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

WARNING: MORON COMMENT ALERT

BE PREPARED FOR RACE BAITING, OFF TOPIC RANTS AND STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Such a target-rich environment. I'll ignore the usual trolls and focus on the liars for a while...

"Private sector jobs are what count.

Temporary, inflated in #, public jobs are a band-aid."

Band-aid? yes, Bad news? Not at all. Every paycheck is money spent in the local community helping the recovery and someone off unemployment. You have to be a total jackass to not recognize that as a positive, even if it's temporary.

"Unemployment has doubled under the Obama regime. Conservatives care about that. "

Yeah, Care enough to lie abut it. The recession began under Bush and the unemployment ramp began to ramp up dramatically beginning in November, 2007, 13 months before Obama took office.

When Obama too office in January, 2009 the unemployment rate stood at 8.5%. It subsequently went higher but had started to ramp down dramatically - and currently sits at 9.5%.

Doubled? No, you're an idiot, It hasn't doubled under Obama. Step back from the Tea Bag. You ignored the facts and lied. Common around here for conservatives to do this - just lie - flat out lie...

"I want Obama to fail so our country never sees the likes of him in charge ever again"

Wee Lard:<blockquote... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Wee Lard:

When Obama too office in January, 2009 the unemployment rate stood at 8.5%.

It's curious then that the Obama Admin would have claimed that the Stimulus Package would keep the unemployment under 8%.

In short, LIAR!

Lee,So were you a li... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Lee,
So were you a liar in 2008 when you called Obama a pathological liar, or are you a liar in 2010 when you flak for him?

#22I thought One w... (Below threshold)
914:

#22

I thought One was supposed to have fun while guzzling purple assed cool aid?


Anyways, all hazy purple good fuzzy feelins aside~

"When Obama too office in January, 2009 the unemployment rate stood at 8.5%."

Giving your misguided facts credence I state without malice of forethought that reachin 8.5% unemployment for the dumbass in chief would be a bridge to end all bridges. A milestone of biblical proportion. I aint given credit for massive failure no matter who the CEO is. But in this case I give credit right at the liar's feet. Lee, You lyin son of a ....

You know what, no. I will <... (Below threshold)
Rich Fader:

You know what, no. I will not have you besmirching the memory of Harvey Korman by comparing his best-known character to Barack Obama.

Gotta give Lee credit. He ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Gotta give Lee credit. He keeps polishing the same turd over and over. And all he's got to show for it is a shinny turd.

Didn't they yell on the Lou... (Below threshold)
Roy:

Didn't they yell on the Louisiana beach that "the President is near"?

"I will not have you besmir... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"I will not have you besmirching the memory of Harvey Korman by comparing his best-known character to Barack Obama."

After all, Korman was intelligent and had CLASS!

Wee Lard:<blockquote... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Wee Lard:

You have to be a total jackass to not recognize that as a positive, even if it's temporary.

If there's any doubt about Wee Lard's integrity or judgment, I'll simply point to the stock market's current take on the job numbers (-3.5% at the moment).

Only a fool or a liar would claim that to be a "positive".

UOG -I vote for #4... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

UOG -

I vote for #4 - Lee isn't an Obama drone, or an asshole.

He's LOYAL. He's COMMITTED. He's DEDICATED. He is, actually, a very, very steadfast person, and he won't discard his loyalty to the progressive Democratic wing no matter what.

If, next week, they come out and say that the President has decided that what we need is a $5 trillion Mars base by 2012 - Lee will do his damndest to help it happen. If, around mid 2011 they decide Obama cannot win, Lee will loyally support whoever is picked.

He has completely given his life and opinions to the Party. I have no doubt that they will, in time, reward him for that... possibly with a bullet to the back of the head.

Such loyalty can be dangerous when misdirected.

"Gotta give Lee credit. ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Gotta give Lee credit. He keeps polishing the same turd over and over. And all he's got to show for it is a shinny turd."

How many licks will it take Lee to get to the shit flavored center of the shiny turd Lee's been droolin here for the past month?

Keep us updated Lee'

p.s. Shhhh! I liked you better as steve green Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


Actually the downturn in th... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Actually the downturn in the economy started in January of 2006, when the Democrats took over the Congress. They started by raising the minimum wage to over $7/hr. which wasn't needed. That is when companies started to shed jobs.This action started the dominoes to fall. It has just gotten worse as the years of the Democrat majority continued in the Congress.

Of course people, like Lee Ward, who probably has never ran a business can't comprehend, that employees are the largest expense of any business and jobs are the first thing that most of the companies get rid of first.

Leeward wrote:<blockq... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

Leeward wrote:

Bad news? Not at all. Every paycheck is money spent in the local community helping the recovery and someone off unemployment.

It seems that the financial community agrees with Leeward's brilliant insight that this is good news, because as soon as the jobs report was issued the stock market did really well . . .

. . . uh, never mind.

Don't worry about the defic... (Below threshold)
hermie:

Don't worry about the deficit. Once Obama seizes our IRAs and 401Ks, there will be at least a couple of years before he'll start seizing our homes and making us pay rent.

What Lee Who Will Not Be Na... (Below threshold)
epador:

What Lee Who Will Not Be Named is thinking:

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

What comes off the keyboard:

blah, blah,blah.

"Pathetic. Simply pathet... (Below threshold)
914:

"Pathetic. Simply pathetic. When did you people stop cheering for America?

When a black man too office, that's when."


Stop fulfilling your own racist prophecy Lee! Your a racist. We all know it. Just fess up and go away.

A simple message to the stu... (Below threshold)
sam:

A simple message to the stupid racist Lee Wards of the world:

When Obama fails, America wins.

I'll ignore the... (Below threshold)
I'll ignore the usual trolls and focus on the liars for a while...
Lee's talking to himself either way.
"I'll ignore the usual trol... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"I'll ignore the usual trolls...."

And Lee likes to talk about others experiencing an "alternate reality".

"I'll ignore the usual t... (Below threshold)
914:

"I'll ignore the usual trolls and focus on the liars for a while..."

Your ignorance condemns your preceptive self journey.

"It seems that the finan... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"It seems that the financial community agrees with Leeward's brilliant insight that this is good news, because as soon as the jobs report was issued the stock market did really well"

Today's report was not as good as what was expected - that's why the market dropped.

Still, it was only 'bad news' to those who want more Americans out of work, more homes foreclosed on, etc. It just wasn't as good as what was expected.

Did ANY of you bother to look at the unemployment chart I linked to above? My guess is 'no' - you prefer to listen to lie and then sit in a circle and pretend it's bad news.


"Such a target-rich environ... (Below threshold)
Sky Captain:

"Such a target-rich environment. I'll ignore the usual trolls and focus on the liars for a while..."

Translation:
"Shit, I've losing the debate again!
Time to ramp up the personal attacks and baffle them with lies..."

In short, Lee's a "one-trick pony" - and he's lame. I do admit Lee is more transparent than the D'OH-bama Administration.

I agree with #24:
"So were you a liar in 2008 when you called Obama a pathological liar, or are you a liar in 2010 when you flak for him?"

How about it, Lee. you want to man up, or do some more personal attacks?

Lee "Psych" Ward: "Today... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

Lee "Psych" Ward: "Today's report was not as good as what was expected - that's why the market dropped."

Lee...it wasn't "good" at all. It was beyond dismal. And the Markets read it correctly.

The Census is a one-time, part-time deal...and it is being run as a "jobs program" for the first time in freaking history!!

Rahm Emanuel is running this out of the White House...instead of the Commerce Department running it...but let's over look THAT dubious legality.

The reality is that what we ARE clamoring for is the Obama Regime to stop trying to give everyone a GOVERNMENT JOB, and let the PRIVATE sector do what IT does best!

But Obama HATES the private sector...and won't be happy until he transforms us into and worker's paradise ala East Germany!

We want AMERICA to succeed...it is YOU and your fantasy lover Obama who do not!

"He has completely given hi... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

"He has completely given his life and opinions to the Party. I have no doubt that they will, in time, reward him for that... possibly with a bullet to the back of the head." JLawson

Damn, that does explain it. Not complicated either. I should have offered another option. Thank you.

P.S. I'm of the impression that you're more patient than I am.

one final p.s. to Lee:... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

one final p.s. to Lee:

headline up on the A/P now (a VERY Obama-friendly site):
"Disappointing jobs report sends stocks tumbling"

try reconciling THAT with your statement that:
"Today's report was not as good as what was expected"

"not as good" implies it was GOOD...just not AS good.

you really are dumb

Today's report was... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:
Today's report was not as good as what was expected

I'll agree with that. In fact, I'll say it went beyond "not as good as what was expected." I'll say it was shocking.

By the way, the fact that this month's jobs report was going to be inflated by the census jobs was not "unexpected" in the least. It's the pathetic level of real job creation that has investors dashing for the exits.

It doesn't make me happy at all, Leeward. I see it as keeping the door open for more and more deficit government spending.

"Still, it was only 'bad... (Below threshold)
914:

"Still, it was only 'bad news' to those who want more Americans out of work,"

"Did ANY of you bother to look at the unemployment chart I linked to above?"

Why ?? Im employed! Barry is the one who wants people out of work so he can implement his secret weapon, Allinsky United!! Problem is he's gotta deal with a little thing called voters/citizens.. He tries to fuc with that and I will personally ram a dirty pitchfork right up his ass,.

"Today's report was not as ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"Today's report was not as good as what was expected"

Barry and his sycophants in the White House are living in their own bubble - completely divorced from reality.

WARNING: MORON COMMENT ALER... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

WARNING: MORON COMMENT ALERT

BE PREPARED FOR RACE BAITING, OFF TOPIC RANTS AND STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS

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Nonfarm payrolls grew by a seasonally adjusted 431,000 in May, but virtually all the new jobs were temporary jobs at the U.S. Census, leaving private-sector hiring very weak, the Labor Department reported Friday.

Excluding 411,000 temporary Census workers, payrolls rose by 20,000 in May. According to the survey of 400,000 business establishments, private-sector payrolls increased by 41,000, the fifth straight monthly gain.

"A disappointing private payroll number to be sure," said John Ryding and Conrad DeQuadros of RDQ Economics.

Markets were expecting a gangbusters U.S. jobs report and were left wanting.

The payrolls growth came in weaker than the 540,000 increase expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch.

The stock market reaction was to the "lower than expected" job creation numbers. Expectations got ahead of reality -- and so the market was "disappointed" by the report.

Sorry to interject reality into your circle jerk of hate... but that's what happened today. "Only" 411,000 more Americans were employed vs the previous month and the majority of those are in temporary jobs, but as I said -- that's 411,000 paychecks feeding back into the economy.

It's just less than what was expected - and the markets reacted. Markets will sell off on this news, especially on a Friday.

".. He tries to fuc with th... (Below threshold)
914:

".. He tries to fuc with that and I will personally ram a dirty pitchfork right up his ass,."


sorry for that.. I got more important things to do. Like sterilyzing the cd deck before hand.

Certainly this news is very... (Below threshold)
Paul Hooson:

Certainly this news is very disappointing. This worldwide global downturn is very difficult for the 191 nations of the world to navigate out of.

However, even in a down economy, the individual must look to create their own opportunities. Fortunes can still be made in any sort of economic conditions. My grocery store is experiencing very healthy monthly sales increases even better than expected, while most other Portland-area grocery retailers are suffering with sales declines of 15-25% right now. Better management and utilization of key resources to drive sales up are central to turning things in a positive financial direction.

"-- that's 411,000 paycheck... (Below threshold)
Sky Captain:

"-- that's 411,000 paychecks feeding back into the economy."

Where DOES that money come from, Lee?
he bulk of the jobs are temporary Census workers - government jobs.
Again - Where DOES that money come from, Lee?
(Hint - not the private sector)
What happens when the census in complete?
(Hint - they're TEMPORARY jobs)

Are you going to man up, Lee, and answer the question:
"So were you a liar in 2008 when you called Obama a pathological liar, or are you a liar in 2010 when you flak for him?"

<a href="http://finance.yah... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:


Disappointing jobs report sends stocks tumbling

The government's May jobs report was an unpleasant surprise for investors who had grown a little more upbeat about the domestic economy the past few days. The Labor Department said private employers hired just 41,000 jobs in May, down dramatically from 218,000 in April and the lowest number since January. The news made it clear that the economic recovery isn't yet picking up the momentum that investors have been looking for.

The government said 431,000 jobs overall were created last month, but most of those them, 411,000, came from the government's hiring of temporary census workers. The overall number also fell short of expectations. Economists polled by Thomson Reuters had forecast employers would add 513,000 jobs.

"People are looking for one turning point," Daniel Penrod, senior industry analyst for the California Credit Union League, said of the monthly jobs report. "That's not realistic. This growth will be much slower and more gradual than in the past."

The unemployment rate fell to 9.7 percent from 9.9 percent in April. That was slightly better than the 9.8 percent unemployment rate economists had forecast.

The jobs report was the latest in a series this week that showed the economy isn't as robust as hoped. But investors had sent stocks higher as they bet on stronger job growth in May.

"Disappointing" and "unexpected" is not the same as "bad" - it's just not as good as was expected.

And note that unemployment dropped.

Job creation up (though not as much as expected).

Unemployment down.

Stock market sell off because the job growth was less than expected.

Sorry, hatemongers, but that's what happened today.

Thanks Paul... At least thi... (Below threshold)
914:

Thanks Paul... At least things are lookin up for some People.

Live long and prosper.

Wee Lard:<blockquote... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Wee Lard:

that's 411,000 paychecks feeding back into the economy.

Nearly all of the jobs were attributable to temp Census workers. These jobs created nothing of value. The work might as well been moving holes*. At the end of the process, the only thing that has been done is lines moved on a map. The country as a whole is not wealthier, but in fact poorer for the process.


*Moving holes refers the process of digging one one to get dirt to fill in a hole that was dug before. The process is then repeated. It is a job but no wealth is created. The process results in a net destruction of wealth. It's how the gov't creates jobs and destroys wealth at the same time.

The more than h... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:
The more than half million jobs the 2010 census has so far added to U.S. payrolls are only temporary. But for many people struggling to make ends meet, they are financial lifelines--some of them shorter than the workers expected.

James Isaman Jr., 48 years old, of Marysville, Wash., started as a crew leader assistant for the census in April at $17.50 an hour, right after his unemployment benefits ran out. After working for 25 years in the construction industry, he had been unemployed since January 2008, aside from a few temporary jobs.

Soon after Mr. Isaman lost his construction job, his marriage broke up, and he moved in with his parents while he and his wife tried to sell their house. They took a loss on the sale. Mr. Isaman is still living with his parents, but they live on Social Security themselves.

"If it weren't for the Census job, I don't know what I would have done," Mr. Isaman said. "I had completely given up hope."

Poor Mr. Isaman.

He's under the mistaken impression that getting off of unemployment and receiving a paycheck from his temporary census job is a good thing.

And his paychecks will help further economic recovery as that money is used at Paul's grocery store, etc.

Since losing his job as a newspaper reporter last June, South Fayette, Pa., resident Michael Jones, 26, has landed interviews with only three companies and hasn't yet received an offer. Last November, Mr. Jones read an ad for census jobs and took the qualifying test on the Monday after Thanksgiving, earning a perfect score. In early March of this year, he got the call letting him know that he had been hired as an enumerator, at $15.25 an hour.

"If I hadn't gotten that job and my unemployment benefits ran out, I'd have to take drastic measures," Mr. Jones said. "The first day of work, I couldn't wait to drive to training. It had been so long since I had a 9-to-5 workday."

Are we out of the woods yet? No.

Is getting people off of unemployment and earning a paycheck instead a good thing? Absolutely, even when it's a temp job.

Leeward, when investors are... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:

Leeward, when investors are disappointed and when they get unexpected news, the DJIA drops about 50 points, maybe 75. When the Dow plunges 324 points, investors are scared.

Investors know the difference between temporary census jobs and real jobs, even if you don't.

Lee a tard-... (Below threshold)
914:

Lee a tard-

stronger job growth in May.

"Disappointing" and "unexpected" is not the same as "bad" - it's just not as good as was expected.

And note that unemployment dropped.

Job creation up (though not as much as expected).

"Unemployment down.

Stock market sell off because the job growth was less than expected.

Sorry, hatemongers, but that's what happened today."

Hatemongers?? Im sorry but next time i will bend right over when a Alinskivite wants to ram it right up my ASS!!

Hello 914. I always think a... (Below threshold)
Paul Hooson:

Hello 914. I always think about how the founder of Hyundai over there in South Korea didn't let the war or poverty stop him from founding one of the world's largest companies and corporate employers. He was so poor that he stood outside American military bases during the war, collected up the cigarette butts the American soldiers threw on the ground, and resold that used tobacco to other Koreans.

Today Hyundai is one of the largest companies in world, producing cars, trucks, locomotives, electronic equipment and numerous other products. Hyundai is one key reason that South Korea is a first world economic power while the Communist North struggles with poverty and starvation.

Hyundai provides a vast number of jobs that raised the standard of living for those Korean workers, while the Communist North occupies the time of many Koreans with useless outdoor projects such as raking around soil that machines could more easily do.

In the end, it will also be private initiative, and not the U.S. government that will decide how well the U.S. also turns around it's own problems with the worldwide economic downturn. Government doesn't have all the answers, and sometimes is a major roadblock to economic growth in the nation with too high of taxes that rob businesses of funds to expand or provide more jobs.

lee weird - "411,000 pe... (Below threshold)
Marc:

lee weird - "411,000 people working, spending money in their communities, not collecting unemployment... THAT'S BAD NEWS? seriously?"

Um yes it is, and should be even with your pea-brain thinking about it.

And BTW, you're way late in the new cycle. There's a whistle-blower all over the news. To be specific a Census B. whistle-blower who says she has been "hired" and fired 3 times by her state's census efforts.

While doing so she has been told specifically NOT to apply for unemployment during the times she was "unemployed" by the Census. Oh, and each time she was "rehired" she was added to the "jobs created" scam obummer is pulling-off

Put another way, she NEVER showed up as unemployed by direction of her superior AND her story has been confirmed by an official of the Census in California.

hey Lee, THIS is the headli... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

hey Lee, THIS is the headline up now on Yahoo (and they are cheerleaders for Obama):
Bleak jobs report sinks stock market

I looked up "bleak"...it apparently means:
"Something that is really good...but just not AS good as you hoped!!"

wow, who knew?

Lee Ward"When a bl... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Lee Ward

"When a black man too office, that's when."

Geez what does Obama being black have to do with anything in this story. Is that your stand by when you have nothing else to say?

411k census jobs. Some of which were the same person hired and fired and are double if not triple counted.

What do Census workers produce? Absolutely nothing.

Who pays for them? We do out of our tax dollars.

What is going to happen to them in 2 months. They will still be unemployed and hopefully looking for work.

You are an idiot.

BTW I vote for number 3.

Lee Ward really is just that stupid.


Hey LeeI looked at... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Hey Lee

I looked at your chart and decided to double check it's accuracy

http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2009/feb/wk2/art02.htm

Increase in unemployment rate in January 2009

Both the number of unemployed persons (11.6 million) and the unemployment rate (7.6 percent) rose in January.


It has a chart too.


Might want to get better links next time.

Here is another one

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CBwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesunsfinancialdiary.com%2Fcharts%2Fjanuary-unemployment-rate-76-chart-day%2F&rct=j&q=unemployment+jan+2009&ei=MoMJTL34NoP48Ab56N2PBw&usg=AFQjCNEP_mJaNhrrHY9TL_wKea-8l9Sq5A

U.S. January Unemployment Rate 7.6% - Chart of the Day


And another

http://perotcharts.com/2009/02/unemployment-rate-continues-to-climb-january-2009/

BTW LeeHow does th... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW Lee

How does the next 5 or 6 months looks

http://forecasts.org/unemploy.htm

Month Date Forecast
Value 50%
Correct +/- 80%
Correct +/-
0 Mar 2010 9.70 0.0 0.0
1 Apr 2010 9.6 0.2 0.4
2 May 2010 9.6 0.2 0.5
3 Jun 2010 9.6 0.2 0.5
4 Jul 2010 9.5 0.3 0.6
5 Aug 2010 9.5 0.3 0.6
6 Sep 2010 9.4 0.3 0.7
7 Oct 2010 9.5 0.3 0.7
8 Nov 2010 9.6 0.3 0.8


Damn 9.6 percent in NOv 2010. That is gonna look great come Midterms.

Why cant Obama create any jobs? He has spent twice as much on jobs in 18 months than Bush spent on Iraq in 6 years and he cant get the unemployment rate below 9.6% !!!!!!!!

How do you spell failure?

O-B-A-M-A

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Somebody mentioned JC Watts... (Below threshold)
JD:

Somebody mentioned JC Watts. I wish he would run for public office again. He has started several very successful businesses since leaving Congress and has put his brainpower to inspire leadership and to work helping entrepreneurs, including minority businesses, make a go of it.

Hey lee weird.... puzzle me... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Hey lee weird.... puzzle me this:

How is the boycott being called on BP going to "help" the economy or... hurt BP?

Clue (for the mentally incapable) BP divested themselves from owning ANY BP gas stations on 2007.)

Exit question, how will it help or hurt BP if obummer gets his way and badgers BP into not paying out the dividends due to it's investors?

"And note that unemployment... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"And note that unemployment dropped."

Lee - unemployment DROPPED because of the number of people WHO LEFT THE WORK FORCE - they are NO LONGER actively seeking work.

Ya gotta stop getting all your info at DK & DU.

Wee Lard:<blockquote... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Wee Lard:

Is getting people off of unemployment and earning a paycheck instead a good thing? Absolutely, even when it's a temp job.

Great. We should have the Gov't create a bunch of temp jobs "moving holes" (see my prev comment) then. After all, Wee Lard thinks that's an absolutely good thing!

Given all the past 'unexpec... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Given all the past 'unexpected' 'final' revisions of posted economic numbers, the current one's are sure to be lower yet.

No wonder the Democrats are running on "It's all Bush's fault(TM)" this fall. Certainly can't do it on their record. That would be political suicide.

"Poor Mr. Isaman. He'... (Below threshold)
John S:

"Poor Mr. Isaman. He's under the mistaken impression that getting off of unemployment and receiving a paycheck from his temporary census job is a good thing."

Poor Mr. Isaman already has been laid off from his Census job and is uneligible for further unemployment benefits. Poor Mr. Isaman is fucked. But since he can't collect, he doesn't exist, and that's why the unemployment rate dropped to 9.7%. But Poor Mr. Isaman will vote Republican in November.

Speaking of Census layoffs, I wonder how the administration will spin those half million jobs lost in June.

"Clue (for the mentally ... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"Clue (for the mentally incapable) BP divested themselves from owning ANY BP gas stations on 2007.)"

So boycotting BP gasoline stations means BP sells less gas.

It doesn't matter who owns the station. If you boycott BP gas stations you're boycotting BP.

If you boycott Nabisco you're not buying Nabisco at Safeway, Lucky's, Ralph's etc.

You're still boycotting Nabisco, and cutting into Nabisco's profits.

"If you boycott BP gas stat... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"If you boycott BP gas stations you're boycotting BP."

Are you REALLY that stupid? You boycott BP stations. They sell less gas. They buy less gas. BP (the producer) SELLS IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.

Jeebus Ward. Look up fungi... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Jeebus Ward. Look up fungible commodity.

Didn't you claim to run a business?

GarandNot only is ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Garand

Not only is what you said true but the gas stations will most likely lose enough business to cut employees and thus increase unemployment.

Of course genious Lee Ward would never think of minor things like that.

ret - FIFY"Lee War... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

ret - FIFY

"Lee Ward would never think."

Geez what does ... (Below threshold)
Geez what does Obama being black have to do with anything in this story.
It's the only thing about Obama that matters to Lee.
UOG - "Damn, th... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

UOG -

"Damn, that does explain it. Not complicated either. I should have offered another option. Thank you."

It's about the only thing that really fits. He is not loyal to the country as a whole, he's loyal to an image of the country represented in the Democratic party. That we are not accepting of his image means that WE are the traitors, WE are the racists, WE are the ones that are in the wrong for not giving every ethnic group and subculture a complete pass whenever 'culture and custom' comes up against law and order.

Because to do otherwise would be 'insensitive'. The concept of one standard of behavior, one law that we all uphold - that's just not right to him. Aggrieved groups SHOULD have special rights. Anything else wouldn't be fair.

He doesn't see that Balkanizing our country into little religious and ethnic enclaves is about the surest way to fracture national cohesion there is. I mean, even WIKI gets it.

Balkanization, or Balkanisation, is a geopolitical term originally used to describe the process of fragmentation or division of a region or state into smaller regions or states that are often hostile or non-cooperative with each other.
Nobody wins long-term, some politicians get a boost short-term (and hell, that's all they're really worried about anyway...) and we get to a point where states don't trust each other. (Hello, California and Arizona - I'm lookin' at YOU!)

But it doesn't MATTER to Lee. He's LOYAL. He'll look around at the chaos in 30 years - and wonder how, with the best of intentions, it all got so bad - but he won't see how his ideals and attitudes fractured the formal structure he used to take for granted.

"P.S. I'm of the impression that you're more patient than I am."

Sometimes. I've not posted a LOT of things I've written in reply, let me tell ya!

"I'll ignore the usual t... (Below threshold)
Deke:

"I'll ignore the usual trolls and focus on the liars for a while..." Lee Ward

He's ignoring the occasional commenter because he doesnt have an answer to the question, "If it was JC Watts or a conservative black and you were criticizing his policies would it be simply because he was black?"

"He's ignoring the occasion... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"He's ignoring the occasional commenter because he doesn't have an answer to the question"

He excels in that area. Like his Obamassiah.

lee weird - "It doesn't... (Below threshold)
Marc:

lee weird - "It doesn't matter who owns the station. If you boycott BP gas stations you're boycotting BP."

How easily you toss all the BP station owners under the bus, and do so purely for ideology.

Of course if you state you're willing to feed all the kids those station owners have I'll recend the following...

You're an unthinking titmouse.

JLawson,There's a ... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

JLawson,

There's a pretty good back and forth over politics and culture that goes on here. Some of its very good.

But what you just wrote is a stand-out for being clear and insightful. If I weren't retired, I'd want to be working with you.

UOG

Thank you, UOG - that's qui... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Thank you, UOG - that's quite a compliment!

He may be full of baloney b... (Below threshold)
Heinz 57 State Sauce:

He may be full of baloney but Barry is full of bullshit!

I don't mean to nitpick, bu... (Below threshold)
Baron Von Ottomatic:

I don't mean to nitpick, but shouldn't that be President William J. Lepetomane?

"I don't mean to nitpick, b... (Below threshold)
HughS:

"I don't mean to nitpick, but shouldn't that be President William J. Lepetomane?"

It should, as has been pointed out to me by the thirty or so members of the local Chapter of Blazing Saddles Advanced Studies Ph.D's that live in my city. But the post has been up so long I just let it go.

Lee? ABout Obama's wonderf... (Below threshold)
Ryan:
""... we are reminded of th... (Below threshold)

""... we are reminded of the disconnect between this (pretender) and the Private Sector ...""

Picky! Picky!

How about "We are once again reminded of the disconnect between this (coked-up, moronic, marijuana-mumbling, Mussolini-modeled, modified-Marxist, murtadd-Muslim, multiple mothers' milquetoast) and bloody reality!"




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