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Talking less than softly because he carries such a little stick

The bower-in-chief, Barack Hussein Obama, is now looking to kick some ass over the oil rig disaster.

Is the man compensating or what?  This is so... not Presidential:

Crossposted at Brutally Honest.


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Yeah Obama you kicking ass.... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Yeah Obama you kicking ass. How many days? 40 and counting>?

He wants to know who's ass ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

He wants to know who's ass to kick?

HAS HE LOOKED IN THE MIRROR?

Reminds me of "Bring it on"... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Reminds me of "Bring it on"

Except that phrase was said by someone that actually knew whose ass to kick and did so effectively.

He has as much chance of ki... (Below threshold)
GianiD:

He has as much chance of kicking ass as Helen Thomas does of being a centerfold for Hustler.

"GianiD: He has as m... (Below threshold)
retired military:

"GianiD:
He has as much chance of kicking ass as Helen Thomas does of being a centerfold for Hustler.
"

OUCH

Perhaps Obama missed the <b... (Below threshold)
Neo:

Perhaps Obama missed the "Kick Me" sign that Bush pasted to his back ... just wait till he sees it ... he will kick his own ass ... as soon as he catches himself

Would President Biden be equally as stupid ?

It's really sad when Biden ... (Below threshold)
arcman Author Profile Page:

It's really sad when Biden turns out to be the "smart" one.

"OUCH"More like "E... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

"OUCH"

More like "Eeewwww..."

Actually, from what I recall from 30 years back, they'd do it just to do it. Tastefully photographed, of course...

Now that everyone's gone for the mental floss... I hate to say it - but this pissed-offed attitude by Obama IS him being Presidential... It's not appropriate, it's not very appealing, it smells a great deal like Obama hasn't got a friggin' CLUE about how to manage anything effectively - but it's coming FROM the President, therefore it's 'Presidential'.

(Sadly, he sets the bar SO damn low...)

And I can understand him being pissed off. He's seeing his 'legacy' as a 'great healer' being stolen away. Ignore Cap&Trade, ignore the environment, ignore the economy, ignore health care - all those debacles would eventually be forgotten, they're all just words.

THIS is reality - it's a reality CAUSED by 'progressives' and 'environmentalists' and it happened under HIS watch, and HE blew the response, and it won't be easily forgotten.

He's screwed, and he knows it, and he can't blame the slow response by the government on anyone else.

Dang, this amateur hour is ... (Below threshold)
G.:

Dang, this amateur hour is getting really long! Listening to Spike Lee is not the answer man! bwahahahahha--- Democrats are you proud of this??? Man if you voted for this guy and you're not kicking your own ass....????

So making strong declaratio... (Below threshold)

So making strong declarations is not Presidential now, eh?

The short memory theatre is pretty flagrant here.

Do I really need to go and cite for you the long list of similar "unpresidential" statements issued by GWB?

Guess this is supposed to b... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Guess this is supposed to be Barry "emoting".

After 16 months of actually... (Below threshold)

After 16 months of actually seeing Barry in action, you'd think it impossible for him to become even more pathetic. Yet, he keeps on managing to pull it off.

You heard of truth to power... (Below threshold)
epador:

You heard of truth to power?

This is bluff to muff!

Meow.... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Meow.

The boy king can't even pla... (Below threshold)
Maddox:

The boy king can't even play "cowboy" well.

Just waiting for the AP dir... (Below threshold)
Sir Toby Belch:

Just waiting for the AP directive that our Rameses
has ordered that work begin on his pyramid,his
monument to himself, to retire his soul to eternal life in the Orion star belt. SEIU has
tepidly promised manpower, on condition that
ALL union retirement funds be promised by the World Bank, until Osiris and the pantheon
assume ultimate responsibility. "It'll be a
real jobs-maker, and will be welcomed in this
time of economic lethargy"....promised the
WH economic advisors.

"Do I really need to go ... (Below threshold)
Geoffrey Britain:

"Do I really need to go and cite for you the long list of similar "unpresidential" statements issued by GWB?" jim x

Please do. Knock yourself out.

We await the LONG list with anticipation.

"He's screwed, and he knows it, and he can't blame the slow response by the government on anyone else." JLawson
You nailed it! That's exactly the situation he's in...and now we know that he was briefed on day one as to how bad it could be and, he.didn't.do.jack. Which meant he wanted the oil to come ashore, so he could use it for political advantage. It got out of hand and now he's stuck with the political consequences; a lame-duck Presidency.

This is Obama's "Message: I... (Below threshold)

This is Obama's "Message: I care" moment.

Or, more likely, the first of many such moments.

J.

"Jindal said at least 10 mi... (Below threshold)
J-Ho:

"Jindal said at least 10 miles of berms could have been built by now if the projects had been approved earlier."

"Jindal and leaders of coastal Louisiana parishes have pushed an unprecedented dredging project calling for 24 sand berms stretching 128 miles....the Army Corps of Engineers has approved the construction of only six of the berms"

That's what I call Ass Kicking! Idiot.

Right... because "kicking s... (Below threshold)
Chem Doc:

Right... because "kicking someones ass" is going to solve the problem...

Fix the problem first, then go look for your scape goat.

Jim X REf yoru pos... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim X

REf yoru post 10.

I suggest you read my post number 3.

Also last I checked after 911 Bush was looking for someone to kill and not for someone to try to prosecute.


Also to save Lee Ward the trouble.


Republicans were for macho phrases until a black man got to be president.

BTW Jim XBush Shoc... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW Jim X

Bush Shock and Awe - leading the defeat of the Iraq army

Obama Shock and Awe - blasting out of the sand bunker on the 5th hole.

The oil has been leaking what 40 days now?


In 40 days Bush led the defeat of Iraq.

In 40 days Obama has played 3 rounds of golf and a 2 pick up basketball games.

In 40 days Obama spent more on political cronies than Bush spent in a year on the Iraq war.

Bush leadership - "Bring it on"

Obama Leadership - "I am looking for ass to kick, pass the sand wedge"

jim x,"Do I really n... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

jim x,
"Do I really need to go and cite for you the long list of similar "unpresidential" statements issued by GWB?"

Yes, you really do.

The Blamer-in-Chief Obama i... (Below threshold)
Weegie:

The Blamer-in-Chief Obama is showing his lack of executive skills. He wouldn't know leadership if it bit him on his Joe Biden.

Jim X has decided to leave ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim X has decided to leave the conversation since his bullshit was called umm bullshit.

I'm worried about Bo, Obama... (Below threshold)
Hank:

I'm worried about Bo, Obama's dog.

How about kicking your own ... (Below threshold)
hermie:

How about kicking your own ass B.O., since you did nothing about the spill for over a month. When 'Top Kill' looked like it was going to be successful, then you came out and made a statement about how you were in charge'; but when it failed, you scurried back to the golf course and went into CYA mode.

Talking tough when you have nothing to back it up is the sign of a weak, pathetic bully, not a leader. But this has always been his M.O..

Yeah, that's great. The res... (Below threshold)
Roy:

Yeah, that's great. The rest of the country is looking to kick someone's ass too. If you don't move, it's yours. Get in line, and head up to Congress with the rest of us. BTW - pull your head out of your own first.

Looking for an ass to kick?... (Below threshold)

Looking for an ass to kick?

Hey Obie...How many people voted for you?

Better get busy...that's a whole lotta asses.

Its hard to kick ass on a t... (Below threshold)
914:

Its hard to kick ass on a tar baby isn't it Barry.

When Bush talked tough it w... (Below threshold)
John:

When Bush talked tough it was to and about our actual enemies. Last time I checked BP wasn't our enemy. Obama has a habit of talking tough about people who disagree with him politically, any and all evil corporations, Doctors that cut off people's limbs for no reason, Ins companies, anyone that dares to make more than $250,000 a year. Not so much for Iran, N. Korea, and on and on.

Right. So you guys know tha... (Below threshold)

Right. So you guys know that Bush made similar statements, but that's okay because you like Bush.

Got it.

Also last I checked afte... (Below threshold)

Also last I checked after 911 Bush was looking for someone to kill and not for someone to try to prosecute.

And how's that working out?

100,000 + Iraqi **civilians** dead, 4,287 US soldiers dead - and fewer people actually captured for a deadly terror attack on US soil than President Clinton.

Last I checked, that doesn't look good for Bush now does it?

Barry in action... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Barry in action

Should be two words, not three.

Is the man compensating ... (Below threshold)
Caesar Augustus:

Is the man compensating or what?

Technically speaking it's projection more than it is compensation.

"Last I checked, that do... (Below threshold)
914:

"Last I checked, that doesn't look good for Bush now does it?"


Looks great for him. He's relaxing on the ranch in Crawford.

Barry not so much. His true colors are being exsposed: Angry liberal= no reelection= worst president evah!


Barry's done. Next stop: Ca... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Barry's done. Next stop: Carterville.

Maybe Habitat for Humanity will be hiring in 2012.

37. Posted by Jay Guevara</... (Below threshold)
914:

37. Posted by Jay Guevara


I think they take volunteers? But after the crummy job Barry has done on so many levels I doubt they'd take him. And besides he would have to learn how to use a tape measure and as weve all witnessed, Barry has no clue how to add.

There's a huge difference b... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

There's a huge difference between Bush saying he wanted bin Laden, an avowed enemy of America and a bloodthirsty terrorist, "dead or alive" and Obama saying he wants to know whose "ass to kick" over an oil spill. If you can't see the difference, then any further observations from you are pointless.

Liberals are all missing the point over conservatives hooting at Obama over this spill. It's not that we are reveling in the environmental disaster, but rather we're having fun at Obama's expense because of the way the left treated Bush post-Katrina, the fact that the Obama administration "owns" this problem by virtue of their statements about it, and that we warned about how little executive experience (e.g., none) Obama had prior to 1/20/09.

Obama's "plug the damn hole" and "ass to kick" comments are more ridiculous than Bush's "Heck of a job, Brownie." (At least Bush had the stones to fire Brown soon after.)

Tame Duck.... (Below threshold)
btenney:

Tame Duck.

Looks great for him. He'... (Below threshold)

Looks great for him. He's relaxing on the ranch in Crawford.

You're right. I should have said, "How's that look for America?"

Jim XYou neglected... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim X

You neglectedt mention most of that 100K (if that is even a valid number) were killed by terrorists and not US or allied personnel. As for the 4k US dead over 7 years. A tragedy yes. Now let us put in the context of history. How many soldiers did we lose on Dday? We lost several hundred in one day during WW2 on a training accident.

Now lets look at some other things.
50 million people freed. A struggling democracy over a brutal dictatorship. Geographical control over much of the middle east, and less money spent on Iraq in 6 years than Obama sepnt in 6 months paying off political cronies.

I will take GW any day over the failure in the WH today.


Oh and I forgot. ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Oh and I forgot.

No other attacks on US soil in 6 years either.

you like Bush.<... (Below threshold)
you like Bush.
You say that like it's a bad thing. NTTAWWT.
BTW Jim X"Do I re... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW Jim X

"Do I really need to go and cite for you the long list of similar "unpresidential" statements issued by GWB?""

We are still waiting.

There's a huge dif... (Below threshold)
There's a huge difference between Bush saying he wanted bin Laden, an avowed enemy of America and a bloodthirsty terrorist, "dead or alive" and Obama saying he wants to know whose "ass to kick" over an oil spill.

Yes there is. Bush played tough for the cameras, then when it came to actually capturing Bin Laden decided it wasn't worth the effort and outsourced it.

Obama, in response to a question, says he wants to find out which humans are responsible for a huge disaster that will affect an entire region, probably for decades - so those humans can face some consequences.

And this is somehow terrible?

If you can't see the difference, then any further observations from you are pointless.

If you can only see Bush as good and Obama bad, then further discussions between us may indeed be pointless.

Jim X"Right. So yo... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jim X

"Right. So you guys know that Bush made similar statements, but that's okay because you like Bush."

What statments did Bush make that were "unpresidential"?

Come now. Give us a list. It must be easy since you claim that there are so many.

Noone here has said that Bush's statements were like Obama's, except you that is.

Bush's statements were backed up by actions.

Obama's statements were backed up by mmmmmm more statements.

Hey Jim maybe you should s... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Hey Jim maybe you should start taking advice from Obama. I mean he follows his own advice doesnt he.

"Don't Make Excuses. Take Responsibility Not Just For Your Successes, But For Your Failures As Well. ... It's The Easiest Thing In The World To Start Looking Around For Someone To Blame."

Oh wait

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/

ON AMERICA'S CHALLENGES
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "When I Showed Up After Inauguration, They Had Left A Big Mess On The Floor. So I Got A Mop, And I Started Cleaning Up Their Mess." (President Obama, Remarks, Norfolk, VA, 10/27/09)

ON THE ECONOMY
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "By Any Measure, My Administration Inherited A Fiscal Disaster." (President Obama, Remarks, 3/4/09)

ON DEFICITS
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "Now, If We Had Taken Office In Ordinary Times, I Would Have Liked Nothing More Than To Start Bringing Down The Deficit. But We Took Office Amid A Crisis." (President Obama, State Of The Union Address, 1/27/10)

ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S BUDGET
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "My Budget Does Not Attempt To Solve Every Problem Or Address Every Issue. It Reflects The Stark Reality Of What We've Inherited - A Trillion Dollar Deficit, A Financial Crisis, And A Costly Recession." (President Obama, Remarks To A Joint Session Of Congress, 2/24/09)

ON DEMOCRAT ELECTORAL LOSSES
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "Here's My Assessment Of Not Just The Vote In Massachusetts, But The Mood Around The Country... People Are Angry And They Are Frustrated. Not Just Because Of What's Happened In The Last Year Or Two Years, But What's Happened Over The Last Eight Years." ("Exclusive: President Obama Says Voter Anger, Frustration Key to Republican Victory in Massachusetts Senate," ABC News, 1/20/10)

ON THE OIL SPILL
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "When Interior Secretary Ken Salazar Took Office, For Example, He Found A Minerals And Management Services Agency That Had Been Plagued By Corruption For Years ..." (President Obama, Remarks, 6/1/10)

• OBAMA: "The Habit [At MMS], Predating My Administration, Was You Just Automatically Gave The Environmental Waiver." (President Obama, Remarks, 5/27/10)

ON HIS ADMINISTRATION'S ECONOMIC ACTIONS
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "We Had To Act Fast. And Unfortunately We Didn't Have All The Tools That We Needed To Act Fast Because You Had A Previous Congress And A Previous Administration That Had Left A $1.3 Trillion Deficit Wrapped Up In A Bow That Turned Surpluses Into Deficits As A Consequence Of A Whole Host Of Irresponsible Policies." (President Obama, Remarks, 5/26/10)

ON AMERICA'S STANDING ABROAD
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "Well, First Of All, During The Campaign I Did Not Say That Some Of That Loss Of Authority Was Inevitable. I Said It Was Traced To Very Specific Decisions That The Previous Administration Had Made That I Believed Had Lowered Our Standing In The World. And That Wasn't Simply My Opinion; That Was, It Turns Out, The Opinion Of Many People Around The World. I would like to think that with my election and the early decisions that we've made, that you're starting to see some restoration of America's standing in the world. And although, as you know, I always mistrust polls, international polls seem to indicate that you're seeing people more hopeful about America's leadership." (President Obama, Press Conference, 4/2/09)

ON AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ABUSES
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "And By The Way, I Don't Recall Any Of These Republicans Trying To Do Anything About Insurance Companies' Abuses During All The Years They Were In Charge." (President Obama, Remarks At St. Charles High School, St. Charles, MO, 3/10/10)

ON GUANTANAMO
PRESIDENT OBAMA: "The Problem Of What To Do With Guantanamo Detainees Was Not Caused By My Decision To Close The Facility; The Problem Exists Because Of The Decision To Open Guantanamo In The First Place." (President Obama, Remarks On National Security, National Archives, Washington, D.C., 5/21/09)

Yep not there is a man who follows his own advice.

"Mission accomplished" Jim ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Mission accomplished" Jim X? I would have to admit is pretty "unpresidential", Considering the lack witted One in office is unable to accomplish anything aside from double digit unemployment, inflation and 22.5 trillion new debt in his first and 3rd to last year ever in office.

Seems to me Obama has talke... (Below threshold)
John:

Seems to me Obama has talked pretty tough about bin laden too but hasn't captured him yet, what's he waiting for. Did I miss someting, did some BP executive plant a bomb on the oil rig that caused it to blow out, here I thought it was an accident, but the commander in cheif wants to kick some ass over it. Suppose that will stop the oil from spewing out? It's just a bunch of tough talk to try to shift the focus from his big mouth and no action to some supposed villian that "caused" the blow out.

Oh and by the way JimX BUSH... (Below threshold)
John:

Oh and by the way JimX BUSH ISN'T PRESIDENT ANYMORE..... just like with all the presidents before him the mess in the country right now belongs to him, kicking some BP guys ass isn't going to change a fricken thing.

"Far from flailing in his r... (Below threshold)
KGJ:

"Far from flailing in his response to the environmental disaster, Obama has been way ahead of the curve all along. As early as a month ago, he assures us, he was facing the elements down in the Gulf, gaining first-hand intelligence from local fishermen on "whose a** to kick."

The nation should rejoice in being led by such a diligent a**-kicker in chief in this time of crisis."

Hey Jim"As early a... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Hey Jim

"As early as a month ago, he assures us, he was facing the elements down in the Gulf, gaining first-hand intelligence from local fishermen on "whose a** to kick"

And umm how's that working out for Obama?

All I can think of when I v... (Below threshold)
914:

All I can think of when I view that video is... The audacity of dope!

You're right. I should h... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

You're right. I should have said, "How's that look for America?"

How are things looking for America? Right now, not so good.

38. But after the crummy job Barry has done on so many levels I doubt they'd take him.

Oh, Habitat for Humanity would take him all right. As a management trainee.

Imagine Barry's plight. He'... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Imagine Barry's plight. He's like an airline passenger who was voted in as pilot. He's trying to figure out the controls while the ground is coming up fast. He must be smoking a carton a day by now.

Jay "He's like an ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Jay

"He's like an airline passenger who was voted in as pilot. He's trying to figure out the controls while the ground is coming up fast. He must be smoking a carton a day by now."

Yeah but he is the airline passenger that said "Hell I saw someone fly a plane once. It was easy so I know I can do it. Everyone loves the pilot. Vote for me to be your pilot. I mean I ran my own campaign to be your pilot so that makes me qualified"

He's like a passenger who b... (Below threshold)
914:

He's like a passenger who became a pilot alright and now he's screamin "Alah Akbar" as he drives the country straight into the ground.

Yep, Barry's realizing that... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Yep, Barry's realizing that there's just a bit more to being a pilot than sitting in the cockpit while the plane is on the ground, holding the controls and making vrooming noises.

Speaking of flyin, when is ... (Below threshold)
914:

Speaking of flyin, when is Hussein expected to fly by the gulf again to show he cares?

Hussein wants to lift the cap on BP's liabilty to make sure they pay? Who's going to make sure Barry and the dumb dems pay?

Nice job on sittin on your ass for 40 days and nights waitin for the oil to come ashore you stupid putz Barry Hussein.

retired military - "ON ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

retired military - "ON AMERICA'S STANDING ABROAD"

Well since his Cairo speech in June last year "Some Arab Countries Make U-Turn on U.S. Leadership in 2010."

MeThinks it's safe to say the Arab world isn't buying the hopey and changey thing any longer either.

Quote of the Day:"... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Quote of the Day:

"This is not theater...I don't always have time to perform for the benefit of the cable shows" - obummer.

No he's too busy holding concerts in the WH, 21 I believe at last count at a cost of 10 million in 2009.

hey Jim XIf I was ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

hey Jim X

If I was the President and i wanted to thump my chest and find out about kicking ass over a an oil spill I would be getting my folks to find oil booms to try to contain the spill.

Maybe he couldnt find any.

Oh wait. There are miles of it in Maine in a warehouse and the company cant get anyone to buy it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHwzqlKWjSg&feature=player_embedded


Gee Lets spend millions on cleaning up pelicans and wiping off rocks but not a couple hundred thousand on oil booms which would help mitigate the damage.

Great job there Obama. Way to show leadership.
Way to KICK ASS and hold your foot on someone's neck.

More on the miles of oil bo... (Below threshold)
retired military:

More on the miles of oil boom sitting in a factory while Obama looks around for someone's ass to kick.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/miles-of-oil-containment-boom-sit-in-warehouse-waiting-for-bp-or-u-s-to-use/

Got this on another site: "... (Below threshold)
ed davis:

Got this on another site: "Strange times. Our President goes to a devastated area of our nation to look for asses to kick and travels the world looking for asses to kiss."

If Barry wants to kick ass,... (Below threshold)
John S:

If Barry wants to kick ass, he should tell BP to stop trying to "cap" the well to salvage its oil and simply blow up the well to stop the flow. That's the proper industry response to an out of control gusher.

Hell, park an aircraft carrier out there, chase BP away and put a big-assed nuke down the relief well. Bambi can push the red button on CNN. That would make for good "ass kicking" TV.

"Hell, park an aircraft ... (Below threshold)
914:

"Hell, park an aircraft carrier out there, chase BP away and put a big-assed nuke down the relief well. Bambi can push the red button on CNN. That would make for good "ass kicking" TV."

Hell Yeah!!! And if he did his job half as "well" as he has shown so far, he'd blow himself to hell too! I'd pay to see that!

While BP has kicked the ass... (Below threshold)
Indiec:

While BP has kicked the ass of the entire Gulf Coast and likely will soon be kicking ass along the Atlantic seaboard there are cheerleaders here that think that they want some more ass kicking.

Rah rah siss boom bah. Drill baby drill. Kill baby kill. Not to worry your cheerleaders are rolling over and asking for more.

Well, wow.I apolog... (Below threshold)

Well, wow.

I apologize for not posting some examples of Bush's far more blustery comments.

I really didn't think i'd have to go and bring back a list of Bush's blustery braggodocio. But, y'all are apparently refusing to remember that far back.

As if the one thing I'm sure we all remember, "Bring it on!" wasn't bad enough, as it was encouraging the enemy to go ahead and shoot our troops. During an occupation, where we're trying to chill everything out. Smart...

But I've already read at least one pre-emptive excuse here for that one on this page, so, moving on:

These are all from:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#2000

"Bush: I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, "Wanted: Dead or Alive."

...stated before he invaded Iraq, and then said about Bin Laden,

"So I don't know where [Bin Laden] is..You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. ...I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

Which he then reversed AGAIN later when running for re-election, and apparently not realizing people had memories.

I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations.

Then for real classic bluster,

"My administration has a job to do and we're going to do it. We will rid the world of the evil-doers."

...Which if he thought he actually could do it, would mean Bush was more powerful than the Biblical Jesus...

And this quote still blows my mind: when asked whether Saddam had WMD or was only interested in getting them one day if he could, Bush said:

So what's the difference?

Oh, nothing much! Only 4000+ soldiers' lives, and a longer fight in Afghanistan, and it making it easier for Bin Laden to escape justice and continuing to thumb his nose at us after murdering 3000 US civilians...besides that, no big whoop.

Then there's:

No President has ever done more for human rights than I have.

Really? How about that guy in your own party, Lincoln? I seem to remember him doing something for human rights. Emancipation? Or was that a Rod Stewart song?

And for bluster AND total military innacuracy,

And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence.

I think you can all get where I'm going here?

One ridiculous blustery statement that simply cannot be defended after another. So for you all to take this statement by Obama as "unpresidential" while giving Bush a pass for all these below is just ludicrous.

In re # 51:<blockquot... (Below threshold)

In re # 51:

Oh and by the way JimX BUSH ISN'T PRESIDENT ANYMORE.....

But you are the guys claiming that this quote of Obama's is somehow "unpresidential". So it apparently falls to me to point out that Bush committed far worse bluster.

If you're going to say that Bush is unpresidential too, that would at least be fair, because it would mean you're at least applying somewhat similar a yardstick to both presidents.

re: # 63 - well retired mil... (Below threshold)

re: # 63 - well retired military, that's a legitimate complaint, because that's an actual policy concern.

I would guess that opinions differ on the effects of the booms to solve this, or state and local authorities in the gulf would be working very hard to get them. Also, from what little I understand of the booms, they will only stop oil that's near the surface, and not the deeper oil and the plumes that we're also facing.

Nevertheless, that's something to be looked into - and I think we're all better off as a country if complaints and criticisms of government reflects actual policies, and not symbolism or emoting.

Well Jim Xlets loo... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Well Jim X

lets look at your quotes. In Context that is.

lets start with "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, "Wanted: Dead or Alive." "

This was in response to a reporter's question "does he want Bin Laden Dead?"

What was he supposed to say? "Gee I want to shake the guys hand and ask him why he killed over 3000 people."

Next 2 quotes.

For context

http://www.eppc.org/publications/pubID.2192/pub_detail.asp
Kelly Wallace, CNN: Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part--deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of--.

President George W. Bush: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is--really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just--he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is--as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide--if, in fact, he's hiding at all. So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did. And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There's going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I'm just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We're tough, we're strong, they're well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Kelly Wallace: But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

President Bush: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I--I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became--we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we--excuse me for a minute--and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things--part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money. And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html)

Quite a bit more there than you quoted. IN addition, I submit that worried and concerned are 2 different things. At the time of the first part of your cut and paste He was discussing Bin Laden's relevance at the time which consideering AQ and the Taliban were getting it's ass kicked (something Obama hasnt done with the oil slick) and Bin Laden was thought to be hiding in a cave or dead then yeah he had some other more important things on his mind.

How this even can even be contorted into an "unpresidential quote" I cant even begin to guess.


Hmmm

""My administration has a job to do and we're going to do it. We will rid the world of the evil-doers.""

Optimistic maybe, bluster okay, Unpresidential? Very much a matter of opinion.

"Which if he thought he actually could do it, would mean Bush was more powerful than the Biblical Jesus... "

I sense you arent a Christian. If you were you would know that Jesus could have rid the world of evil but that wasnt why he was placed here on earth.


"So what's the difference"

Well in my mind there was no difference. So he was making an accurate statement IMO. In addition, you have to remember that according to the deuffler report he was trying to build a NBC warfare capability which he had already proven that he would use.

Again. Not unpresidential. As for Afghanistan, Bin laden escaping etc.
a. What has Obama done to capture Bin Laden?
b. Gee the dems want to get out of Afghanistan most rickity tick after holding it up as the "righteous war" while Bush was in office.
c. Destroying the AQ that were in Iraq helped weaken them and their hold on the region.

But here you are refighting the reasons for going into Iraq (yet again).


"No President has ever done more for human rights than I have. "

Arguable I agree. Unpresidential? Nope.

Let's see freeing 50 million people from 2 dicatatorships and helping to rebuild Iraq vs freeing just under 4 million people from slavery. Also provding more funding than any other President for Aids research and drugs.

It is a matter of opinion. But unpresidential or bluster? Dont think so.

"And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. "

Why is this unpresidential? Maybe it was not accurate. But if it was bluster it was showing pride in the military and not himself. He didnt say "As a result of me, the taliban is no longer in existence"

And as a fighting force the Taliban at the time of the statement was falling apart. It's infrastructure was shot, supply lines were not well, it's leadership was getting killed weekly. Maybe a more accurate statement would have been

"And as a result of the United States military, Taliban AS WE KNEW IT no longer is in existence. "


BTW JimNice to see... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW Jim

Nice to see you agree with the oil booms.

The Dems now have Ray "Schoolbus" Nagan and

Barrack "oil boom" Obama.


Re: # 72 - well retired mil... (Below threshold)

Re: # 72 - well retired military, this was in response to whether President Obama's statement was Presidential.

So whether or not you like Bush's context and feel that justifies his statements on a factual level, the question (at least as I'm interpreting it) is: what makes a quote unpresidential? As if there is something about the ***tone*** of what Obama is saying that is somehow unpresidential, while Bush's clearly boastful and self-aggrandizing tone is somehow ok.

There's a factual context for Obama's quote above. He's talking finding out how's responsible for the gulf oil disaster, and holding them accountable. But you all apparently think this statement is unpresidential, in spite of its factual context.

So if context justifies Bush, then context justifies Obama. If context doesn't justify Obama, then context doesn't justify Bush. You can't have it both ways.

re: # 73 - I don't... (Below threshold)

re: # 73 -

I don't think you fully read my comment. Booms
wouldn't be the cure-all that would solve this.

But it is interesting that *Nagin* is somehow responsible for the response Katrina disaster, but Bush is not...yet Obama is somehow responsible for the BP oil spill AND the booms, while BP, Bush, Cheney, the MMS, and Governor Jindal are not.

Hm, it's almost like one standard is applied to one group that happens to be in the GOP, while another standard is applied to those who aren't. Isn't that interesting?

Maybe this can sum all this... (Below threshold)

Maybe this can sum all this up:

In re: Bush's "evil-doers" quote:

Optimistic maybe, bluster okay, Unpresidential? Very much a matter of opinion.

Okay then. If that's the case, then if you're willing to treat Obama's statement's "presidentiality" as a matter of opinion, that's fine too.

Basically, as long as you're applying the same yardstick to both presidents.




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