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A Hairy Subject Indeed

We should probably chalk this up under "non-story of the day" ...

Yesterday, newly nominated California Republican Senate candidate Carly Fiorina made a brief off-hand remark on an open mic about -- get ready for it -- her opponent's hair.

"Laura saw Barbara Boxer briefly on television this morning and said what everyone said, 'God what is that hair?′ Sooooooooooooo yesterday".

The horror! Obviously any woman who would stoop so low as to criticize another woman's hairstyle has no business serving in the US Senate. In fact, I'm sure any Democrat would join with me in condemnation of any attack against a female elected official that was based solely on her appearance.

Right? Oh sorry, my bad.

Anyway, hopefully the thin-skinned Ms. Boxer realizes that in today's political climate, unless your detractors hang you in effigy you really haven't made the big-time.

As I was reading through some of the commentary about Ms. Fiorina's open mic faux pas, I came across this commentary from the Washington Post's Ruth Marcus. She riffs a bit on Fiorina, then shifts direction back toward her true feelings about Tuesday's primaries:

... what I was going to write was a lot cheerier. It wasn't just about how many women won on Tuesday: Fiorina and Republican gubernatorial nominee Meg Whitman in California; Sen. Blanche Lincoln against the pundit-decreed odds in the Arkansas Democratic primary; probable GOP gubernatorial nominee Nikki Haley in South Carolina; Republican Senate nominee Sharron Angle in Nevada. It was about how the typology of female candidates has changed even as the phenomenon of being a female candidate has diminished in importance. (emphasis added)

Really? It's no longer "important" to have women candidates? Knock me over with a feather.

Really? Seriously?? Actually I think I understand what's going on here. See if you agree with me:

  • Carly Fiorina - Republican
  • Meg Whitman - Republican
  • Blanche Lincoln - Democrat who supports partial birth abortion ban and is only rated 50% by NARAL
  • Nikky Haley - Republican
  • Sharron Angle - Republican
  • and last but not least ... Sarah Palin - Republican

As long as women who were hardcore forceps-waving pro abortion zealots, or feminist lapdogs who would unquestionably toe the line for progressivism were nominated to run for public office, it was the greatest thing for democracy since the 19th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act. But now that Americans are choosing conservative women ... well, having women in politics is no longer anything to get excited about.

A decade ago, I used to joke with friends about how civil rights leaders and feminists would react to a Republican presidential ticket of Colin Powell and Elizabeth Dole. The joke of course was that the NAACP and NOW were far more interested in promoting affirmative action and abortion on demand than ensuring the election of minority candidates. Unsurprisingly, nothing has changed since then. Once again we will have the opportunity to watch feminists and women's rights groups work overtime to defeat Republican women at the polls.


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Comments (41)

We all knew Fiorina was inc... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

We all knew Fiorina was incompetent. She was selected as one of the worst 20 CEOs for her 'running into the ground' of Hewlett Packard -- now we know she's a vapid and petty as Sarah Palin (whose recent boob job shows what a boob she is).

Add in Meg Whitman spending $80 million to defeat Steve Poizner in the CA GOP primary and you have the perfect trifecta of power-hungry incompetent GOP politicians. The fact that they are all 3 women speaks volumes of the GOP.

Quick, when you think of competent conservative woman in office who comes to mind?

Obama comes to mind he's be... (Below threshold)
John:

Obama comes to mind he's been the best thing for conservatives since Carter.

Lee, I'll answer your quest... (Below threshold)

Lee, I'll answer your question, then you answer mine.

Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Margaret Thatcher, Condoleezza Rice, Governor Sarah Palin, Jan Brewer, Elizabeth Dole.

There, that's seven. Now answer my question: when did Barack Obama go from a "pathological liar" to "the bestest president ever?"

And please don't ignore my question and instead attack my answers. I know you have a whole bucket of vitriol all lined up, but don't bother. I can write it for you: poorly-written lie after poorly-written lie about how Sarah Palin is a liar, a cheat, a fraud, a quitter, a liar, a loser, and whatnot. (Yes, I said "liar" twice. You'd say it a zillion times more.)

Come on, Lee. I answered you. You might not like my answer, but I did answer you. Now answer my question.

J.

While your at it Lee how ab... (Below threshold)
John:

While your at it Lee how about naming all those great liberal women, like Babs Boxer and Madam Speaker.

Oh, Lee. You're such a stic... (Below threshold)

Oh, Lee. You're such a stickler for the rules. Then why do you keep commenting on Shawn's pieces, when he's specifically banned you from doing so?

And you're hiding behind the "I can't go off-topic, or you'll ban me" dodge? That didn't stop you yesterday, when you went on a prolonged rant of nothing but personal attacks against me. I ignored them, but if you're saying I should ban you if you go off-topic, perhaps I should go back and re-read them with that in mind.

And no, I don't play the little "ban" games you reveled in when you had a smidgen of authority. I never have, never will.

But I will ignore you on this thread, unless you actually bother to answer my question. I really, really shouldn't contribute to the crapification of Michael's article.

J.

Lee doesn't "do" requests. ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Lee doesn't "do" requests. Demands them of others, but since he's 'special', the rules don't apply.

You'll note that he has no reply to the fact that the women in question are all Republican. Guess only Republican women cause diminished importance in politics.

It is truly apprpriate to k... (Below threshold)
epador:

It is truly apprpriate to keep at least ONE LW comment alive per thread to demonstrate the lucent fecality of left-wing liberal lambasting that only the left-wing recognizes as logical thought process.

Obauma... (Below threshold)
914:

Obauma

Enough with the hair insult... (Below threshold)
epador:

Enough with the hair insults!

As a redneck conservative, I demand to see this contest finished the way we do it back home in Tennessee:

I wanna see them go one on one in a real live mud-wrestling match.

Garand, I also constrained ... (Below threshold)

Garand, I also constrained myself to women who had held office, not merely candidates or commentators or whatnot. And also, note that the requirement did not involve "elected" office, so appointees also made the list. As well as one non-American, as that was also not a prerequisite.

J.

oh, I fergot again?? </p... (Below threshold)
914:

oh, I fergot again??


Sucks!!

Lee wants to talk about "bo... (Below threshold)
arcman Author Profile Page:

Lee wants to talk about "boob" jobs. Let's see: "boob" jobs in government include Obama, Babs Boxer, Chuckie Shumer, Dickie Durban, San Fran Nan, Harry the body Reid, and the list goes on. Lee is our resident "boob" job. Sarah Palin has more intelligence in her little toe, than Obama has in his entire body.

"Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Margar... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

"Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Margaret Thatcher, Condoleezza Rice, Governor Sarah Palin, Jan Brewer, Elizabeth Dole."

Lee, this part of Jay's response to you was "on topic" which for some odd reason you are suddenly concerned about. So, since it seems to fit, do you have any comment on these conservative women? I guess you can leave comments about Palin out because I know where you stand on her so comments on the others will suffice.

Can we please here about yo... (Below threshold)
914:

Can we please here about your other woman now Barry?

"I wanna see them go one... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

"I wanna see them go one on one in a real live mud-wrestling match."

Well thanks, Epador, for planting that truly nasty image in my mind.

Anyway, Fiorina really shouldn't be talking about bad hair. Talk about glass houses. She kinda looks like a biker. Then again, I've never been into butch looking women.

RE #3, I'd add Golda Meir ... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

RE #3, I'd add Golda Meir to that list. I'm not sure if the was a hard core conservative, but she didn't want to see Isreal destroyed so she clearly wasn't a leftist/Democrat/"liberal".

"Quick, when you think o... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

"Quick, when you think of competent conservative woman in office who comes to mind?"

And Lee, thanks for demostrating the opinions of a typical leftist narrow-minded femisogynist.

Hey Lee, when are you going... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Hey Lee, when are you going to respond to my request in the Acorn thread?

Care to explain the comment "Acorn HQ is wkg for the Democratic Party" as attributed to a Washington DC Acorn employee.

Do would you care to comment that the ACORN employees were "Constantly threatened" or "Staff instructed on what to say to the FBI" or "{name redacted} quit when told not to talk to FBI"

re: 16Hey, I'm hav... (Below threshold)
epador:

re: 16

Hey, I'm having a bad hair day today myself, and its verrry slow at work, so I couldn't help myself.

The image sorta flowed from the booby laments from the left lately. I was really thinking it would be fun to watch Sarah take down Barak in the mud, but that just wouldn't be a fair fight, 'cause even if their spouses were allowed to tag team, the Palins would kick ass.

Sarah Palin has more int... (Below threshold)

Sarah Palin has more intelligence in her little toe, than Obama has in his entire body.

That's why she reads ALL the newspapers and magazines in the world, rather than just a few of them.

Is it any wonder that once ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Is it any wonder that once the thread contains both "boobs" and "Palin" certain commentors come out of the wormwood?

Okay, pondering Lee's post,... (Below threshold)
Rich Fader:

Okay, pondering Lee's post, that scene from "Life of Brian" comes to mind.

The problem with calling Fiorina or Whitman (or Palin) incompetent is that you have to show at least some signs of competence to get to be CEO of Hewlett Packard. Or CEO of eBay. Or Governor of Alaska. Go tell Murkowski and Knowles they got beat by a complete moron. I'm sure that'll make them feel so much better.

And if you'd told me in August '08 that Sarah Palin would still be in the news two summers later, still driving the left batty, and that just about the biggest scandal they could come up with is that they THINK she had her bewbs done...I'd have had to score that an epic win.

By the way, I'm trying to figure out how one of the most popular press targets in American life, not just politics, supposedly managed to get said bewbs done without anybody and I mean ANYBODY in the press hearing about the surgery or the related recovery until it's an accomplished fact. I mean, we're talking about somebody who has authors deliberately moving up and renting the place next to hers to trawl for material.

I tend to not believe anyth... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

I tend to not believe anything BryanD says, but if it's true that Fiorina has or recently had cancer than I apologize for my comment in #16.

To paraphrase a famous comm... (Below threshold)

To paraphrase a famous comment by Ross Perot: "Being called incompetent by an Obamarrhoid is truly a unique experience."

re:25She had early... (Below threshold)
epador:

re:25

She had early stage breast cancer and post op adjuvant chemo. Hair doesn't always grow back the same. The hormone therapy afterwards sometimes causes weight changes and other undesirable effects. Check out her pre-diagnosis pictures.

re: CEO stuff at HP

Critics will blame her, supporters will say she did the best she could at a rough time. MY concern is she was a McCain campaign person! We all saw how masterfully that went. All that said and done, I can't imagine how she would be WORSE than BB for CA or the USA.

The problem with calling... (Below threshold)

The problem with calling Fiorina or Whitman (or Palin) incompetent is that you have to show at least some signs of competence to get to be CEO of Hewlett Packard.

Not true at all. Go look up the corporate histories of Snapple, or NBC, or BP. Story after story of people getting the reins of a well-working company, and then running it straight into the ground.

Fiorina is herself a great example of this, seeing as how she took HP from a great position to nearly ruining it.

It would be comforting to believe that corporations are all meritocracies. But an open-eyed review reveals that this is simply not the case.

~Lee Ward: "We're all ti... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

~Lee Ward: "We're all tired f your third-grade call-outs."

We? Who is this "we"?

But on topic .... These women, like Ruth Marcus, are not feminists. They don't have a desire to see all women move up and prosper. For them women are broken up into two categories; those they can control and those they can't.

If you're truly a feminist, you're independent and resourseful and are not subject to their manipulation. Therefore they will snub you, call you a traitor and try to ruin you.

RE #27: Thanks Epador. My... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

RE #27: Thanks Epador. My mistake. My shame.

Fiorina open mic comments w... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

Fiorina open mic comments weren't much of a story to me. However unless it was one of those satellite feeds that people can get, how did this video get release? I'm sure there are plenty of these types of videos of Obama and Democrats that would not be a good reflection on them.

Yes there is an obvious double standard when it comes to Republicans and Democrats. Republicans looks, families or anything else is fair game. The same can't be said about Democrats.

"I'm sure there are plen... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"I'm sure there are plenty of these types of videos of Obama and Democrats that would not be a good reflection on them."

Yes, indeed. Wizbang featured a video of John Edwards in makeup prior to a satellite interview - exact same conditions as this one - and Edwards was primping his $400 hairdo. Made him look like an ass. Wizbang had no problem running that, and turnabout is fair play.

This video of Fiorina will haunt her throughout the campaign. The fact that it occurred the day after she won the primary promised fun the likes we haven't seen since Caribou Barbie.

It's normal for these satellite pre-interview feeds to be recorded, for reasons that are now obvious - and it happens to both republicans and democrats - just ask John Edwards.

"RE #27: Thanks Epador. ... (Below threshold)
914:

"RE #27: Thanks Epador. My mistake. My shame."
29. Posted by P. Bunyan

Your penance shall be to read NRO's The Corner for 7 days stone sober.

Let Jonah Goldberg be your Ghost of Christmas Future."
Posted by "Blinded by the light". Your penance, keep showing up!

'Yes, indeed. Wizbang featu... (Below threshold)
914:

'Yes, indeed. Wizbang featured a video of John Edwards in makeup prior to a satellite interview - exact same conditions as this one - and Edwards was primping his $400 hairdo. Made him look like an ass. Wizbang had no problem running that, and turnabout is fair play."

Good for them! What the hell is john boy doin wearin make-up anyways?


How would that be pennance ... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

How would that be pennance for me Bryan? Now if I had to read HuffPo, or watch The View, Oprah, or the NBC Nightly News for a week, THAT would be pennance.

"Good for them! What the... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"Good for them! What the hell is john boy doin wearin make-up anyways? "

For the same reason President George Bush wears makeup for TV interviews. Here's the resume of Bush's make-up artist.

You see, once upon a time there was a debate between John Kennedy and Richard Nixon... oh, never mind.

Its pretty sad when you guy... (Below threshold)
epador:

Its pretty sad when you guys set up Lee to actually make points off you.

Probably the biggest irony ... (Below threshold)
Tsar Nicholas II:

Probably the biggest irony here is that young, misogynistic liberal males won't even be able to suppress their projection and other indicia of mental instability.

Yes there is an obvious ... (Below threshold)

Yes there is an obvious double standard when it comes to Republicans and Democrats. Republicans looks, families or anything else is fair game. The same can't be said about Democrats.

Oh come on. Do you really believe this?

I'm recalling, just off the top of my head, many unkind comments about Chelsea Clinton's looks, Nancy Pelosi, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton; mockings of Graeme Frost, of Michael J. Fox...to pretend that this kind of nastiness only comes from the Left side of the aisle is just silly.

And of course we've never m... (Below threshold)

And of course we've never made fun of Rob Blagojevich's looks, or John Kerry's, or Al Gore's, or Dennis Kucinich's, or Barack Obama's, or Spongebob Hairplugs', or...

We even made fun of John Edwards' looks, back when we thought she was a man.

Really? It's no longer "... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Really? It's no longer "important" to have women candidates? Knock me over with a feather.

Then I guess the whole "Year of the Woman" poppycock back in 1992 wasn't that important either.

By the way, I'm trying t... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

By the way, I'm trying to figure out how one of the most popular press targets in American life, not just politics, supposedly managed to get said bewbs done without anybody and I mean ANYBODY in the press hearing about the surgery or the related recovery until it's an accomplished fact.

I would say the Boobie Fairy, but I think Andi Sullivan is still in DC.

What angers me about this w... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

What angers me about this whole thing isn't the off-mike remarks or the direct reaction to them. It was the number of people, including Jay Leno, who jumped on Fiorina's own hairstyle.

The woman is a breast cancer survivor, aspholes. Chemotherapy usually causes the hair to fall out completely, and it often grows back scant and/or strange-looking at first. Fiorina's hair look is nearly exactly the same as that of several other survivors I have known.

Sure, she was being a bit catty in what she thought was private banter, but this is a cheap shot so low I wouldn't even have expected it of leftists. Serves me right for giving them credit for any human decency.




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