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Hearing Voices

There's a story floating around the fringes of the blogosphere that Egypt's foreign minister had a one-on-one meeting with President Obama. And during that meeting, Obama told the Egyptian some rather disturbing things:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, who told him that he was a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father and stepson of Muslim stepfather, that his half-brothers in Kenya were Muslims, and that he was sympathetic to the Muslim agenda. He asked the Arabs to show patience.

Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American issues (like healthcare reform), he would show the Muslim world how he would deal with Israel.

The whole story reminds me of the tale from the Bush administration, when a Palestinian official said that Bush had told him that God ordered the invasion of Iraq.

I'm not buying either story. They simply don't make any sense. And for the same reasons.

We are being asked to believe that a sitting President of the United States would make politically damaging statements and admissions that utterly fly in the face of their own previous comments and actions in front of people who they have absolutely no reason to trust to keep their confidence. And that those admissions would serve the agendas of their audience quite nicely.

Please. These stories are utter and complete BS. Neither man is both so sinister as to keep their "real agenda" so completely under wraps, yet so naive and trusting as to blab their deepest, darkest secrets to people who would gain tremendously from immediately sharing those secrets with the world.

No, the common element here is Muslims passing off their fantasies as truths. Hell, there's even a term in the Koran for "lying to the infidels in order to advance Islam." It's not only permissible, but required.

In an entirely unrelated topic, I should tell you that in a private e-mail, Lee Ward has confessed that he's secretly in the pay of Karl Rove and Halliburton, and his online activities are designed to make all liberals look like frothing loonies and borderline sociopaths. He's thought about quitting many, many times, but the money's just too good to pass up.


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Comments (32)

You (and Kevin) will be hea... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

You (and Kevin) will be hearing from my lawyer.

lol!... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

lol!

The problem with the obama ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

The problem with the obama story is that it s all too believable. It comes from a regional ally and makes an assertion that is borne out by his subsequent actions. Whether the part of his claiming his muslim heritage is true or not, his attitude toward Israel certainly has been confirmed. The fact that his promised actions have indeed been as promised in this story lends credibility to the part where he is claiming his muslim allegiance.

The Bush story on the other hand suffers from being sourced from a de facto enemy and plays to stereotypes that his detractors promoted. Furthermore it does not have the secondary statement that provides the credibility. It sounds more like a willful mischaracterization of what he may have said.

I agree, this sounds like t... (Below threshold)
Brett Buck:

I agree, this sounds like the usual crap from the lunatic fringe. I hate the Romans Obama as much as anyone but this is entirely too self-serving to ring true.

I wouldn't put it past Obama to think along these lines and I wouldn't be too surprised if we attempt to sell out the Israelis, but this sounds pretty typical as a "rumor" started by some blog to advance the "Obama is a Muslim/Interloper" meme. He's a socialist and an idiot ( I suppose this is redundant...) and he may be more sympathetic to Islam than most Americans, but he's not about to come out as a Muslim.

Frankly I wouldn't put it p... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Frankly I wouldn't put it past obama to say this regardless of whether or not he believed himself to be a muslim simply because he might believe it would gain him some advantage by saying it. It's probably yet another example of a politician trying to say what he believes his audience wants to hear.

Whether the story is true o... (Below threshold)
stan25 Author Profile Page:

Whether the story is true or not true, it sounds like something he would do. We all know how narcissistic he is and don't think for a moment that if he could gain a political advantage with his enemies, he drop that shoe in a heartbeat.

There has been speculation that he is a closet Muslim and he has neither confirmed or denied the statement. But, as Jay says, if he confirms that he is a Muslim, he would be toast in the eyes of the American people and to the Western allies. All I can say is things like this have a tendency to come out in the wash, eventually, as they always do.

If he is the inept fool wil... (Below threshold)
914:

If he is the inept fool will stay in the closet.

You know the story about Bu... (Below threshold)
SShiell:

You know the story about Bush is quite simply unbelievable. Obama's part however almost seems to work but for the fact that he wouldn't dare reveal himself to such a person and endanger his position to do so.

The Lee Ward story, however is completey believable and to tell you the truth, I have had a sneaky feeling about him for a long time now.

So he (Lee) threw in lookin... (Below threshold)
SCSI.wuzzy:

So he (Lee) threw in looking like a pederast for free?

I agree - the story is rubb... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

I agree - the story is rubbish. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

The Lee Ward story is all too believable. He's either a Republican operative trying to make us think liberals are stupid to discredit them, or a Democrat operative trying to make us think that liberals are stupid to lull us into a false sense of security. /g

I feel obligated to point o... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

I feel obligated to point out that several of the above commenters appear to be embracing "Fake But Accurate".

Several of the above commen... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

Several of the above commenters are either very gullible or liars. Either way, lies and stupidity are the hallmarks of Jay's post, so they fit right in.

Yesterday I got Jay to admit that the only time he's approved of actions Obama has taken as President is when Obama is killing dark-skinned people. My guess is that this is Jay's "payback."

I prefer to view the above ... (Below threshold)
914:

I prefer to view the above comments as "trust but verify", Mike. All except for #12 which is just another racebaiting attempt.

You have to admit that Obam... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

You have to admit that Obama always uses the proper Muslim pronunciation of certain words rather than the American pronunciation.

e.g. Pock-ee-stahn, rather than Pack-ih-stan

and Ahl-lah, rather than Ahl-luh

(please forgive my phonetics)

As stated, what Lee wrote i... (Below threshold)
Hank:

As stated, what Lee wrote in post 12 is a LIE!

JT,That slap at the ... (Below threshold)
codekeyguy:

JT,
That slap at the late, great Lee Ward obviously hurt bad!!! #12 is his weak attempt at contrition. Make him grovel!!!(I still rejoice at receiving his "Banhammer" at "blue"!!)

"We are being asked to beli... (Below threshold)
alanstorm:

"We are being asked to believe that a sitting President of the United States would make politically damaging statements and admissions that utterly fly in the face of their own previous comments and actions in front of people who they have absolutely no reason to trust to keep their confidence."

So? Sounds like something he'd do to me - he hasn't demonstrated any judgment or great intellect so far.

Here Lee Ward let me save y... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Here Lee Ward let me save you trouble.

Republicans were for Lee Ward working for Karl Rove and the RNC until a black man became President.


(Jay Tea these are getting harder and harder to make up).

Here's jay's confession, as... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

Here's jay's confession, as described in #12 above.

Jay only cites two instances when Obama's actions met with his approval. (1) when Obama "authorized the Navy to kill those Somali pirates" and (2), "when he uses drones to kill terrorists."

I was of course very surprised that Jay would cite only these two instances, both of which illustrated a deep-seated racial bias. The only time he's approved of Obama's actions is when he's killing dark-skinned people? Seriously?

So I asked Jay to clarify and cite other examples of times he's approved of Obama's actions, and he couldn't.

Here's the start of the thread - go see for yourself.

jim m, the Bush story was v... (Below threshold)

jim m, the Bush story was very believable -- to his critics. For proof, look how many believed it.

Likewise the Obama story. The parallels just struck me as interesting.

J.

Lee continues to LIE.... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Lee continues to LIE.

Once a liar always a liar.<... (Below threshold)
914:

Once a liar always a liar.

For example: See Barry.

Keep digging Lee. Eventual... (Below threshold)
epador:

Keep digging Lee. Eventually you'll either strike a gusher or get to China.

More popcorn, and beer, please!!

Lee should be getting lots ... (Below threshold)
SShiell:

Lee should be getting lots of bucks for his efforts on this thread alone. He has had 4 entries, none of which put Liberals or Democrats in a good light. Do you think they will give him a bonus for that?

Shorter Lee Ward: "Because ... (Below threshold)
Drago:

Shorter Lee Ward: "Because there aren't more white pirates and terrorists for obambi to kill then Jay is racist for celebrating obambi's whacking of the non-white pirates and terrorists."

Doesn't anyone remember Oba... (Below threshold)
lulu:

Doesn't anyone remember Obama's interview with George Stephanopoulus (sp?) whereby he stated, "my muslim faith" and George quietly interrupted him by saying, "you mean your Christian faith".

Georgie unwittingly had a BIG, BIG story fall right in his lap, and not one person in the media followed up on it.

Lee, no one would be surpri... (Below threshold)
lulu:

Lee, no one would be surprised that Obama is a muslim, however, if he hid that nugget while campaigning, he deceived the voters. He has sealed his paper trails making me wonder what he is hiding, especially pertaining to his college records.

"Oh what tangled webs we weave when we practice to deceive."

Here Lee Ward let me save y... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Here Lee Ward let me save you trouble

Republicans werent for killing black terrorists or black pirates before a black man became president.

Lee, you're wildly off topi... (Below threshold)

Lee, you're wildly off topic -- as usual, when you've been handed your ass. But let me answer you:

1) I just noted that Obama has been killing pirates and terrorists. You're the one who's made their race an issue. Are you saying that "pirate" equals "black?" Also, what "race" are the terrorists? They've been black, Arabic, Asian, and possibly even a few white ones. Hell, he's put a death sentence on an American citizen.

B) Obama's done the killing, not me. So shouldn't you be horrified that he's only killed "darkies?" Why hasn't he made sure that our enemies were being killed in a evenhanded, non-discriminatory fashion?

III) You got anything ELSE Obama's done that I might even consider praiseworthy? From my perspective, he's been as lousy a president as you are a blogger. Or, rather, were.

Some people would have taken their firing from a blogging gig as an opportunity to strike out on their own, or find a new home. You got your ass canned, sulked off to lick your wounds, and returned to the place where you were banned before. Good god, how pathetic is that?

J.

"You got your ass canned... (Below threshold)
914:

"You got your ass canned, sulked off to lick your wounds, and returned to the place where you were banned before. Good god, how pathetic is that?"


Its kind of like "fatal attraction".. Is Lee Ward Glenn Close in heat?

The Kenesian has been heari... (Below threshold)
914:

The Kenesian has been hearing voices for years.. Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Karl Marx, Josef Stalin Goebbels to name but a few.

We are being asked to belie... (Below threshold)

We are being asked to believe that a sitting (pretender to the office of "president") of the United States would, in front of people who (he has) absolutely no reason to trust to keep (his) confidence, make politically damaging statements and admissions that utterly fly in the face of (his) own previous comments?

Yep.

Just as was the norm during the incidental (co)-"presidency" of the, Peking owned, operated and controlled, treasonous, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, perjurous, impeached, dis-barred, co-serial-rapist Billy-Bubbah Blythes? ("Clitons")

And during the era of the so richly Soviet-agent-larded "administrations" of the traitor, Roosevelt and of his successor, Mr Truman?




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