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Spineless Republicans disgust me - Joe Barton should have never retracted his apology to BP

I heard about the man's apology and applauded it... and then I hear that the Republican leadership forced him to retract it.

I'm incredulous.  I'm enraged.  But I'm not surprised.  The Democrats are corrupt and any objective observation of their actions proves it.  Yet the Republicans are pansies and this whole Barton affair is more than convicting.

If BP is found to be guilty of negligence and if it's found that this negligence is criminal in nature, then BP ought to pay the price for that negligence and that illegality.  But it's not yet happened except in the court of public opinion, a court influenced largely by a White House administration with an agenda and an accomplice media willing to overlook the mistakes and missteps of an administration failing criminally to fulfill their own responsibilities.

Think back in history to evils perpetrated by the likes of the Nazis.  Even they had their day in court.  Even they faced due process before found guilty.  But not BP.  Those in power who despised "Big Oil" well before this mishap are doing their level best now to bury the industry.  And the gullible and ignorant amongst us are lapping it up like a dog to a water bowl.  I'm disgusted.

Listen here to what Barton had said originally and someone tell me what in hell was wrong with what he was saying:

There's not a damned thing wrong with what Barton had to say... not a damned thing... and yet now he's been forced to back off what he said here... it's outrageous...

Regular reader know what I think of Democrats.  Regular readers especially know what I think of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the rest of them.  Regular readers know that I think more of a thimble full of warm spit than I do the Democrats in power today.

But after this debacle, after the Republican leadership throws Joe Barton under the bus, after they force him to retract what he said... the hell with them too.  They in fact at this moment disgust me more.

They're political pussies.  Yes, I said it.  And I toned it down.  At this particular juncture, at this particular point in the political season, I'm hoping the whole damned lot of them there in Washington D.C. are defeated, whether it be this November, which won't get here soon enough, or the next election when the rest of them hit the campaign trail.  To hell with them all.

They absolutely make me wretch.

Crossposted at Brutally Honest.


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When I pay the fine for dri... (Below threshold)
Burt:

When I pay the fine for driving 75 mph in a school zone, I do it with the understanding that there will be NO trial. If BP has paid this fine they can no longer be charged with any criminal wrong doing. They should be off-- scott free from this point on.

Rick-The prize is ... (Below threshold)
Trump:

Rick-

The prize is Nov.

Nothing must be allowed to intefere with it.

And this statement- correct as it is- is political DYNAMITE.

The GOP did the right thing.

No unforced errors now please.

I understand the politics o... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

I understand the politics of the situation.

Still, once we allow Presidents to go outside the law and browbeat concessions from private companies, we are one step closer to the rule by decree replacing the rule of law. Considering the FCC is also going outside the law tomorrow to impose outrageous new regulations on broadband internet, despite the opposition of a majority in the House and a large bipartisan group of Senators, this is getting closer all the time.

BP should have to pay all the costs as specified by LAW and the court system. Just because the totalitarians among us worship Obama as a god doesn't make him one.

Sadly, too much of the elec... (Below threshold)
Weegie:

Sadly, too much of the electorate does not take the time or effort to be informed. That's how we got Obama and Democrat majorities in Congress.

But these people will definitely see the 10 second sound bite of him apologizing, along with some partisan leftist BS about how BP and the GOP are in cahoots, etc. And these people will believe the lie.

That's why the apology was needed - because the electorate just isn't sophisticated. Thank a unionized teacher.

Sadly, too much of the e... (Below threshold)
TexBob:

Sadly, too much of the electorate does not take the time or effort to be informed. That's how we got Obama and Democrat majorities in Congress.

I agree Weegie, that's how we end up with racist ignoramuses like Lee Ward.

This has to be the most stu... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

This has to be the most stupid administration, aka regime, in the history of the country. I hope BP brings extortion charges against the POS in the white house in the world court. The would love to burn O'Dumbo. BP would have paid much more in the long run, volutary, if O'Dumbo would have avoided comitting several felonies by his threats and intiminations. Now $20 billion is all we'll see and they tell everyone to kiss off.
Barton has proven he's gutless so get rid of him when his term is up, if not before.

political theater.... (Below threshold)
Douglas:

political theater.

He allowed the Dem's to paint republicans as "the oilspill party." Even though what he said is accurate.

the 2 slices of bread used ... (Below threshold)
irie1972:

the 2 slices of bread used for my sandwich contain more intellectual honesty then your entire article. How can anyone take bp's side in this? The fact that you resort to frame your argument within a legal definition of strict liability only makes you an even bigger imbecile. Where is the piss and vinegar over the millions of gallons spewing into the water killing life? What about the people that can't work? Guess the blue skies never diminish in your land of hummers and corporatism. Lets privatize gains but socialize risk. Billions for wall street but F the environment and the shrimper.

Lee,So you think B... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Lee,

So you think BP should pay for the clean up? Why aren't you screaming for Haliburton to pay since they were the contractor that ran he drilling? Oh, I guess that corrupt Haliburton meme only worked when he GOP were in office. Now that Barry's running things they're great!

Or maybe you are just a disgusting hypocrit and have no sense of honesty or fairness only you want to be on the side that divides the spoils.

You make me sick.

And heeeresssssssssss STUPA... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

And heeeresssssssssss STUPAK:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/06/17/stupak_legitimate_for_bp_escrow_account_to_fund_health_care.html

Guess we can use that slush fund to pay for health care for people on the Gulf Coast. Wonder what other uses Barry and Company will find for that money.

Irie,2 American co... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Irie,

2 American companies ran the drilling and owned the platform. The hypocrisy here is staggering. When the left wanted to trash Bush Haliburton was the devil incarnate. Now that the left is in charge they are oblivious to the fact that Haliburton has a roll to play in this.

Beyond any corporate responsibility the Federal government has continually acted in ways to prevent the spill from being contained or cleaned up. Preventing oil booms from being used, refusing foreign assistance, preventing levees from being built to protect the shoreline.

How many billions of dollars of mitigation is obama personally responsible for preventing? This crisis is so bad because he sat on his dumb ass for 2 months. His administration is still getting in the way. Today they blocked the barges erecting levees to protect the shoreline because they weren't certified for the number of life jackets etc on board. Not that they don't have them. Just that the federal government hasn't approved all the red tape yet. You lefties are so stupid thinking that the government can solve anything.

If it were Bush we would be starting impeachment proceedings.

"the 2 slices of bread used... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"the 2 slices of bread used for my sandwich contain more intellectual honesty then your entire article."

And yet that is still far more intellectual honesty than the entire left combined can muster up.

I completely agree, Rick. ... (Below threshold)
VaGal:

I completely agree, Rick. This is exactly the type of thing that continues to harm the Republicans. When someone finally grows a pair, someone else comes along and cuts them off. Barton was right--whatever BP has/hasn't done does not justify thug tactics by Obama. This is Chrysler/GM all over again. Barton must have struck a nerve because the White House responded more quickly to him than the oil spill. Boehner and co. need to learn when to shut up and those who do speak up need to stick to their guns.

"So you think BP should ... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"So you think BP should pay for the clean up? Why aren't you screaming for Haliburton to pay since they were the contractor that ran he drilling? Oh, I guess that corrupt Haliburton meme only worked when he GOP were in office. Now that Barry's running things they're great!"

Because according to the law BP is responsible for paying.

No doubt BP will go after Haliburton in court to make Haliburton cough up some billions because early on there were clear indications that Haliburton had screwed up as well, but BP will point to Haliburotn and Haliburton will point to BP and the court will have to decide that.

Meanwhile, the law says BP is responsible and BP must pay, and pay they will. Bush is out the WH, big oil lost its biggest apologist.

The GOP needs to hide people like Barton until the election has passed.

The Tea Party, if it runs true to form, will bark out complaints like this post.

Meanwhile the GOP's chances if regaining the majority in the House and Senate are slipping away --

and the Tea Party folks are pointing at the GOP mainstays as not having balls...

and the GOP mainstays are pointing at the wingnuts as having too much balls...

Lol, I love a good meltdown.

He said nothing wrong, but ... (Below threshold)
exceller:

He said nothing wrong, but should have said it differently. however once he said it he never should have apologized. I am sick and tired of the handwringer brigade of Republican party. Timid and nervous that the media might object to what they say. this is war. screw 'em

You guys really do boggle t... (Below threshold)

You guys really do boggle the mind here.

How is it a bad thing, for BP to have to put funds in escrow for the coming claims?

BP was in charge of the operation. BP signed off on everything done by all the other contractors. That means BP is to be held accountable. If after a thorough investigation it turns out that BP was in the right and Halliburton blew it, then BP can recover their money from Halliburton. Or Transocean. Or whoever else.

In the meantime, those innocent civilians who are hurt by this catastrophe *right now* can have some hope that they will get their money without having to spend years in court.

Tell me again how that is a bad thing?

And how is this possibly going outside the law? I would love to know which law is actually being broken or even bent here.

As for the idea that BP is the victim here, and deserves any kind of apology for being held accountable - that's absolutely ridiculous. Through their absolute recklessness they have caused the single worst man-made disaster in US history. Which, incidentally, also killed 11 people and will probably kill more just through toxicity. But the government should apologize to them?

And nobody seems to notice ... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

And nobody seems to notice that Barton is from Texas.

Yep, the oil industry bought and paid for Joe Barton. He's in congress thanks to his ability to suck on the oil industry's teet.

Barton was also among a group of Republican congressmen from Texas who earlier this week put forth a bill to end the moratorium on deepwater drilling. When announcing the bill, he questioned whether the temporary moratorium imposed by the Obama administration would become permanent.

(Update 4:08 p.m.:) Barton's biggest single corporate contributor, Anadarko Petroleum, is a 25 percent stakeholder in the Macondo Prospect, site of the Deepwater Horizon explosion in the Gulf of Mexico. Individuals and PACs associated with Anadarko have given Barton's campaigns $146,500 since the 1990 election cycle. Political blog FiveThirtyEight highlights this fact in this report.

(Update 4:23 p.m.:) Barton has retracted his apology to BP and issued another apology for using the word "shakedown" to describe the $20 billion fund set up to cover damage claims on the Gulf Coast, Politico reports.

"I regret the impact that my statement this morning implied that BP should not pay for the consequences of their decisions and actions in this incident," he said in a statement issued by the office of House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio).

(Update 5:37 p.m.:) Additional Center for Responsive Politics analysis shows that Barton's candidate committee and leadership PAC combined have received $1.67 million from the oil and gas industry since the 1990 election cycle.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/06/barton-likes-bp-and-they-like-him-b-1.html

And he wants American taxpayers to foot the bill so his financial benefactors aren't hurt.

Why are you defending him?

More on Barton.<block... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

More on Barton.

(AP) Barton has received $100,470 in campaign donations from oil and gas interests since the beginning of 2009, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The same group reported that since 1990, political action committees of the oil and gas industry and people who worked for it have given more than $1.4 million to Barton's campaigns, the most of any House member during that period.

Barton was just doing what his masters wanted when he apologized to BP.

I thought we had officialy ... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

I thought we had officialy entered Crazy Town when you retards helped get Andrew Johnson (the worst president in history, wait, I mean Dubya) re-elected in 2004. Now you're all apologizing for British Petroleum ruining the Gulf for decades. How deep does the crazy really run with you guys? I guess much, much deeper than the oil still spewing into the Gulf 2 months later.

Good Christ.

BP was in charge o... (Below threshold)
James H:
BP was in charge of the operation. BP signed off on everything done by all the other contractors. That means BP is to be held accountable. If after a thorough investigation it turns out that BP was in the right and Halliburton blew it, then BP can recover their money from Halliburton. Or Transocean. Or whoever else.

In the meantime, those innocent civilians who are hurt by this catastrophe *right now* can have some hope that they will get their money without having to spend years in court.

Another thing to think about. The question isn't really whether BP is giong to face liability, but how much. Plaintiff's attorneys sense this, and they have congregated in Houston and along the Gulf Coast to find plaintiffs to bring lawsuits. And, of course, BP is going to incur legal costs (easily in the millions) to defend these suits as they wind their ways through the court system.

The escrow fund helps with this in a lot of ways.

First, any person who can prove their claim rather easily can apply to the escrow fund as first remedy, have the claim approved, and walk away with their money in a matter of weeks or months rather than the years it will take a court case to play out.

In turn, BP can reseolve some claims rather quickly withotu having to pay its lawyers to try the cases and in a way that gets as many of these liabilities as possibles paid out and no longer casting a cloud over its balance sheet.

It's basically alternative dispute resolution. And it's a way for all parties in an individual claim to win easily and quickly.

Meanwhile, by putting money in the escrow fund, BP gains at least some certainty as to its damages in the medium term. On its 10-K, BP can now enter "$20 billion paid over a term of X years to address claims stemming from Gulf spill" rather than "Oh, fuck, we're gonna owe a shitload of money" in the Litigation section of its 10-K.

And if the claims don't amount to $20 billion? BP will be able to reclaim that funding at the other end of this mess.


The problem is, the governm... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

The problem is, the government has control of the funds. .meaning tha you KNOW that its not going to get anywhere close to properly distributed.

There we go again! Snatchi... (Below threshold)
pibill:

There we go again! Snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory! When the dem-idiots are digging themselves a good hole, SHUT UP & LET 'EM DIG!

"And if the claims don't am... (Below threshold)

"And if the claims don't amount to $20 billion? BP will be able to reclaim that funding at the other end of this mess. "

That's pretty optimistic James. Do you really think the Obama Administration won't come up with ways to spend the whole $20 billion, and then ask for more?

BP setting up an emergency fund to quickly pay for damages that are undeniably due to the spill is obviously common sense. But as Rep. Barton says, there is due process for determining the full extent of BP's liability, for determining whether or not criminal negligence was involved, and for settling on a final dollar amount to reasonably cover damages.

As was the case with GM and Chrysler, where the White House issued decrees that completely circumvented the normal bankruptcy process, Obama is again simply decreeing that BP is "guilty" and must pay X amount of dollars. This is an unprecedented end-run around our established legal system by the Executive Branch, and I think it's scary as hell.

One more thing, remember the controversy surrounding the proposed civilian trial for Kalid Sheikh Mohammed, based on the fact that such a trial presented the opportunity for KSM to be found "not guilty"? In response, a White House official (Robert Gibbs, I think) essentially said that the Justice Department would make sure that KSM was found guilty.

Is it just me, or is there a pattern emerging, pointing to a distinct attitude among elite members of the current regime that basically says, we're smarter than you, we know what's best for you, and we don't need no stinkin' legal system keeping us from dispensing "justice"?

One class action suit from ... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

One class action suit from BP shareholders will get this fund reduced or eliminated ... this "agreement" will never survive the light of a legal discovery ...

Ummmmm....didn't the MMS, E... (Below threshold)
olsoljer:

Ummmmm....didn't the MMS, EPA sign off that all safety regulations were being complied with?

irie1972 - "[T]he... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

irie1972 - "[T]he 2 slices of bread used for my sandwich contain more intellectual honesty then[sic] your entire article."

And that's just a start. Idiot.

Michael:As far as ... (Below threshold)
James H:

Michael:

As far as I know, this fund would not cover criminal negligence, only civil negligence. I should point to this WSJ article, which indicates a number of the positives to the fund. This substantiates my assertions upstream.

In particular, pay attention to this paragraph:

If claimants do start dropping suits, BP may be spared potentially astronomic punitive-damage awards before juries in Gulf states who may be hostile to it.

In other words, that due process could cost BP more than simply settting up the fund.

Additionally, I should point out that the fund is not controlled by Obama, but rather administered by Ken Feinberg, who has a reputation for fairness and honesty.

Which brings me to another point: It's to BP's interest to have somebody not on the BP payroll administer the fund, as that can insulate BP from charges it's trying to lowball claimants.

What you lefties have misse... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

What you lefties have missed (big surprise) is Obama's utter lack of leadership in this whole crisis. Gibbs had stated since day one of the gusher that BP is in charge. But Obama said Tuesday since day 1 his administration was in charge. The White House is like the Keystone Kops. Just going everywhere and not accomplishing anything.

I do not think anyone here thinks the escrow account is a bad idea, it just shouldn't be presented as if Obama made it happen. If BP didn't want to do that, they simply would not have. Not a law in the world could have made them do it unless it was through the courts. All the grown ups here know this but you lefties simply do not understand government and their powers. Oh yeah! Oversight for the regulatations concerning this spill have been under the leadership of the democrats for 4.5 years. So, the dems and Obama own this one. Lock, stock and barrel. The world now sees how incompetent and impotent Obama really is. ww

WHo does Feinberg work for?... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

WHo does Feinberg work for?

Obama, perhaps?

"I'm not in charge of it, the guy who works for me is!"

He is an executive branch appointee. He is an enmployee of Obama. Therefore, he serves at Obama's pleasure.

Maybe it's just me but, whe... (Below threshold)
BluesHarper:

Maybe it's just me but, when the Left and the Right argue about goings-on there seems to be a disconnect that I just can't put my finger on.

The arguments seem to go something like this:

That ball is round.
No, the sky is blue.
You're an idiot.
No, you are.

I'm not clever enuff to verbalize this phenomenon, but it happens all the time.

It's a hoot to read though.

Milksop RINO's depart!!... (Below threshold)
914:

Milksop RINO's depart!!

irie1972 Yep Obam... (Below threshold)
retired military:

irie1972

Yep Obama cares about the environment. That is why we have miles of Oil boom sitting in a ware house in Maine when the govt knew about it over a month ago.

That is why oil sucking boats are being sidelined due to technicalities.

That is why boats from other nations were refused when help was offered. BP didnt do that. The govt did.

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Lee Ward

Barton took $1.4 m in donations over a 21 year period. What was the last count for Obama from BP in the last 2 years? - over a million wasnt it?. Yep that is what I call bought and paid for by the oil companies.

Idiot. Every time you open your mouth you put both feet in it.

BTW Lee here let me save yo... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW Lee here let me save you the trouble.

REpublicans were for taking money from oil companies until a black man became president.

Oh and Lee I like to be fac... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Oh and Lee I like to be factually accurate (unlike you)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/its-complicated-obama-has-received-the-most-bp-cash/

quoting politico

"BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company's political action committees -- $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

On top of that, the oil giant has spent millions each year on lobbying -- including $15.9 million last year alone -- as it has tried to influence energy policy.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.
'


now with $15.9 million spent on lobbying LAST YEAR who do you suppose those lobbyists were going to see? Replicans who are in the minority or democrats who have super majorities in the house and senate?

Gee common sense (I know it is hard but try to keep up when we talk about common sense) says that most went to see democrats.


Also 2 of Obama's top bundlers collected several hundred thousand dollars for Obama's campaign and contributions from oil companies came out to almost $900k.


BluesHarper You ar... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BluesHarper

You are correct. Obama wants to divert attention away from the problem.

I quote my good friend Lee Ward here

"Enough with the statements already. It's time for action, Barack. Don't talk about the problem, fix it.'

<a href="http://rightwingne... (Below threshold)
Ryan:
"Barton took $1.4 m in d... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"Barton took $1.4 m in donations over a 21 year period. What was the last count for Obama from BP in the last 2 years? - over a million wasnt it?. Yep that is what I call bought and paid for by the oil companies."

yeah, BP has such a hold on Obama he squeezed them for $20 billion.

Maybe they should have donated more to him, eh?

lol - gawd you're an idiot.

Meanwhile Barton was bought for a few hundred thou.

And man did he deliver. He stood up and made an ass out of himself, then had to apologize.

And Barton's generated several hundred thousand dollars in donations to the DNCC in the last 24 hours - Americans outraged that a member of Congress would favor BP over them.

More spineless republicans!

Lee"yeah, BP has s... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Lee

"yeah, BP has such a hold on Obama he squeezed them for $20 billion"

More like blackmailed.

It's called "jawboning," ge... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

It's called "jawboning," geniuses.

Presidents have done it at least since Lincoln. Kennedy famously did it with steel companies in the 1960s.

Yeah Bruce.The sam... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Yeah Bruce.

The same way Kerry was going to smoke a peace pipe with the Arabs and jawbone them down on the price of oil. We see how well that is working for Obama.


And actually with Obama involved I believe extortion is a lot closer to the truth. Cant do much jawboning when you are running in and out of a 20 min meeting but it doesnt take that long to say "Put money into a slush fund or be auditted, sued, demonized etc. After all, I am the only one keeping you away from the pitchforks."

Bruce-"I... (Below threshold)
914:

Bruce-


"It's called "jawboning," geniuses."


"I've seen jawboning before and Bruce your jaw is way too obtrusive!


So you think BP should p... (Below threshold)
john:

So you think BP should pay for the clean up?

Is that a controversial position?

Why aren't you screaming for Haliburton to pay since they were the contractor that ran he drilling?

If you subcontract out a job to fix someone's roof, and the subcontractor burns the house down, guess who's liable? You. Though you're welcome to sue the subcontractor to recover your damages.




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