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Wow.

It seems everyone's reading "Avertible Catastrophe," the Financial Post's amazingly analysis of the BP oil spill in the Gulf Of Mexico. As I read it, I started putting together a list of the identifiable errors and mistakes the Obama administration made. And as I made that list, I noticed that they had hit so many of the classic categories of blunders that it could almost serve as a textbook example of how NOT to do things.

1) The Perfect Is The Enemy Of The Good.

The Dutch government owns quite a few oil-skimming vessels that have tremendous capacity. They can suck up huge amounts of oil-laden water and remove most of the oil.

But the EPA won't let them work on this disaster. The Dutch ships don't meet US standards. According to those rules, water returned to the sea must be 99.9985% clean. The Dutch ships fall short of that metric, and don't have the capability to store and carry that water ashore for more thorough cleaning.

Let's say that the Dutch ships remove only 95% of the oil in the water. Isn't that still a hell of a lot better than nothing?

2) We Are The Smartest In The World.

Also known as the "NIH" syndrome -- "Not Invented Here." To acknowledge that others might have good ideas -- even, possibly, better ideas -- would be to acknowledge that the Obama administration does not have all the answers, and that others might have a good idea or two. And if those outsiders are part of the oil industry, that's even worse.

3) No One Else Must Be Allowed To Win.

The Obama administration must own all actions taken in this disaster. Couched in the context of "we want to make sure it's done right," they have worked to block efforts by those not directly under their control. That way, they don't have to risk others getting credit for successes -- and, consequently, proving that the Obama administration is not the best and brightest. That would diminish the reputation of the Obama administration, and that would not be tolerable.

4) Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste.

There's a school of thought that every crisis is also an opportunity. Indeed, there's an old urban legend that the Chinese word for "crisis" is formed by combining the characters for "danger" and "opportunity."

The Obama administration has indeed seized on this crisis as an opportunity to push its own agenda. It's trying like hell to impose a ban on all offshore drilling in the Gulf, which will throw thousands and thousands out of work and seriously bone the US economy. It shook down BP into forfeiting its legal protection under existing liability laws and giving up a $20 billion "compensation" fund to be administered by Obama's hand-picked crony, with no oversight whatsoever (and legally arranged to come ahead of other BP creditors should they file bankruptcy). It's using it as a cudgel to beat up on the entire oil industry. It's making serious hay in denouncing and blaming "Big Business" and the Republicans for destroying the Gulf Coast.

In the rush to let as little of this crisis to go waste, though, they're forgetting one little detail: they're not doing a hell of a lot to stop the ongoing disaster and start the cleanup. Indeed, it almost looks like they're willing to let the leaking go on and on and on until they've wrung every bit of opportunity for political gain out of it.

But as I noted yesterday, of the four states that are currently being threatened by the oil, three of them voted for McCain in 2008 -- and the fourth barely went for Obama. They're all southern states, red (or almost red) states, all part of "Jesusland" or "Redneckistan." So screw 'em.

There are times when you have to set politics aside, when you have to rise above your prejudices and biases and simply accept any and all hands willing to offer assistance, when you have to recognize that your foes might have something to offer.

This disaster in the Gulf should have been one of those times, for our "post-racial," "post-partisan" president. But it seems he doesn't want to be the president of all Americans, even those who didn't vote for him.

I find myself selfishly glad that New Hampshire voted for Obama in 2008. Should we face a disaster of this magnitude any time soon, at least I won't be worried that we will get the "Gulf Treatment" from the Obama administration.


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The people of the Ukraine w... (Below threshold)
markola:

The people of the Ukraine were starved. The gulf is being destroyed. Learn to accept the rule of the centralized government.

Excellent post.1) ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Excellent post.

1) Bureaucracies are averse to risk taking and will fail to act if there is any perceived downside to their actions in a crisis. In light of that it is not surprising that the spineless bureaucrats are refusing to act rather than implement a perfect solution. For the bureaucrat there is no downside to inaction. They cannot make a mistake and the opportunity for successful action remains. Acting and failing are where they sense danger.

2) and 3) for the Obama admin there is no alternative to solutions coming from this government. They cannot allow that there is any other source of help. To do so would negate their ideology that only government can protect and provide for the people and that people are incapable of doing such for themselves.

4) I think this is less "screw the red states" as it is "I just don't care about he little people". Historically, socialist governments have not worried themselves about harm to the individual. They are too busy trying to reorganize the structure of the underlying society. That is obama's claimed objective: to reorganize American society. Face it America, he's not that into you. He doesn't care if individuals suffer on the road to the worker's paradise.

As to central planning being a failure I would point to the USSR draining the Aral Sea, turning it into a poisoned salt lake and killing the fishing industry that fed millions, all for the purpose of creating rice paddies in the desert.

Sort of looks like they are... (Below threshold)
ron:

Sort of looks like they are sabataging cleanup efforts......on purpose.

Obama and his minions are p... (Below threshold)
Michael:

Obama and his minions are pretty stupid, everyday this disaster continues, his status diminishes...you'd think that they would work vigorously to avoid that...but they don't.

I believe when Obama took o... (Below threshold)
Imhotep:

I believe when Obama took over GM, he closed all of the service centers that didn't give him campaign contributions.

Gulf Oil Gusher Truthers Un... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Gulf Oil Gusher Truthers Unite!

A new cottage industry is born.

Philip Berg, Jerome Corsi, Orly Taitz, and all sorts of new kooks and charlatans will begin filing the first of many frivolous lawsuits any minute now and, as we all know, that costs money. Donate generously.

Adrian, I'm not interested ... (Below threshold)

Adrian, I'm not interested in blaming Obama for his inactions so far. That's his game.

I want him to get off his ass (or, more accurately, get his ass off the links) and DO THINGS that will actually help the situation. But if he really just wants to kick some ass, he can start with his own people -- the dipshit who refused the Dutch skimmers, Salazar and his plan to shut down all offshore drilling, and whatnot.

J.

Does Adrian ever write anyt... (Below threshold)
Michael:

Does Adrian ever write anything of substance...or is all just snarky blithering?

The words Adrian and substa... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

The words Adrian and substance are not normally used in the same sentence.

As for Barry. You elect and empty suit, you get an empty suit. Guess all that 'vast executive experience' in running a political campaign is only good for one thing. Running a political campaign.

Not to worry, come November, Mr Lame Duck President can contemplate his navel for the next two years.

AB, documented facts seem s... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

AB, documented facts seem so difficult for you to grasp. I almost suspect your IQ may be reaching triple digits but you keep consistently proving that you aren't anything more than a drooling idiot.

This regime is made of weapons grade fail.
There is a total lack of leadership and all they live for is payback, and yes, it does look like the US is being lead off the cliff by a flaming bigot.

Another global conspiracy c... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Another global conspiracy carried out just to make the Republican Party look bad!!!

And what about the wetsuit, the underwater flashlight, and the map of the Gulf of Mexico that a White House maid discovered in Michelle's mother's bathroom?

More snarky, pointless blit... (Below threshold)
Michael:

More snarky, pointless blithers from Adrian.

Imhotep, if you're actually... (Below threshold)

Imhotep, if you're actually serious, please provide some sort of link to that craziness.

Otherwise, great snark.

Thanks all you bureaucrats ... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Thanks all you bureaucrats for taking such good care of us.

Can't wait for healthcare.

Jackasses

I sure would like to see th... (Below threshold)

I sure would like to see this solved quickly, like everyone else. And I am sure the Obama administration has made some errors during the response to this.

However, the notion that there shouldn't be new wells opened until we know exactly what happened how this one blew out, how to prevent that, and how to clean it up if the worst happens - I don't see how that's a bad idea.

"And I am sure the Obama ad... (Below threshold)
Michael:

"And I am sure the Obama administration has made some errors during the response to this."

My God there is an understatement!

Never let an economical= en... (Below threshold)
914:

Never let an economical= environmental crisis go to waste.. Barry's best plans have been exposed and they are empty and hollow just like the suit he wears. Disgusting as he and his cronie's are, there days are coming to an end.. Tic tic tic tic...

JIm x,normally we ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

JIm x,

normally we disagree, but you ask a really good question in #15 that deserves a serious answer.

There are over 800 rigs currently in the gulf. and despite the many dangers and risks involved this is the first accident of it's magnitude despite the fact that we have searched for oil in gulf waters since the 1930's.

From a quality management perspective you do not make dramatic changes to a system for what may be a statistical outlier. Often the panic after an event like Deep Water Horizon causes people to take dramatic but largely unnecessary and often counter-productive actions. The moratorium on pumping from wells was such an action. it did more harm than good. Statistically, accidents of this nature are very rare, to eliminate the beneficial activity of pumping oil from these wells would be foolish and short sighted (hence the immediate reaction of most politicians right or left).

I would agree that an analysis of the accident and what should have been done is necessary. I would say that in the mean time proper inspections and safety measures should be taken on the remaining rigs. Ceasing activity would be economically disastrous and militarily foolish increasing our dependency on oil from nations that are largely our enemies.

And I am sure the Obama ... (Below threshold)

And I am sure the Obama administration has made some errors during the response to this.

jim x, those "errors" are thoroughly documented, blindingly obvious, and most are readily correctable IF they got off their asses and decided to actually ADDRESS the problem.

When will they?

Sorry. That should be "WILL they?"

I'm having doubts.

And that scares the crap out of me.

J.

The biggest failure has bee... (Below threshold)
jim m:

The biggest failure has been a failure to lead. Failing to make decisions and act decisively. Instead they are sitting back and waiting for someone else to solve the problem while they are positioning themselves to take the credit for it. They have waffled and stalled and in doing so have caused others, who are willing to make those decisions, to forestall taking action.

The other side of this coin is that they are also wanting to capitalize off of this mess. The combination of their greed to benefit from other people's misery and their inability (or really an apparent unwillingness) to do anything about it makes them look cruel and corrupt.

"water returned to the ... (Below threshold)
914:

"water returned to the sea must be 99.9985% clean. The Dutch ships fall short of that metric"

Isn't it already 100% unclean. How assinine can you get. Ohh I fergot were talking Barry's foresight and leadership here and assinine is his middle name.

Anyone with an open mind can clearly see this is on purpose just like destroying the economy and private ind. is.. Never let a crisis go to waste even especially when you are the architect and stand to profit.

The dems are nutso if they think this will keep them in office come November which is not getting here soon enough.


Also, what is Barry jerkwat... (Below threshold)
914:

Also, what is Barry jerkwater waiting for? A hurricane of course, then he will attepmt to blame his messy mistress on "Global scamming.

A fool and the presidency are soon parted. Not soon enough I know but the die is cast and the dems are out.

Only four, Jay Tea? I thoug... (Below threshold)

Only four, Jay Tea? I thought the president had given you way more material than that!

I'm not interested... (Below threshold)
I'm not interested in blaming Obama for his inactions so far. That's his game.

I want him to get off his ass (or, more accurately, get his ass off the links) and DO THINGS that will actually help the situation. But if he really just wants to kick some ass, he can start with his own people -- the dipshit who refused the Dutch skimmers, Salazar and his plan to shut down all offshore drilling, and whatnot.

Great "LIST" Jay. I've taken the privilege of posting this story in the Greenroom at Hot Air.

Thought experiment (cover y... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Thought experiment (cover yourselves with tarps to avoid splatter from liberals' heads exploding):

Suppose Barry had asked Sarah Palin to head up the oil spill cleanup.

Crazy? I don't think so.

1. She actually has been around the track with oil companies.

2. Imagine the bipartisan vibe he'd have gotten going. Whoa.

3. He would effectively scupper her Presidential ambitions for 2012, for two reasons:

a. He'd have appointed her, which makes her a subordinate.

b. The oil looks to gush for months, for which she would get the heat.

c. It would energize his base to resume pouring vitriol all over her 24/7.

For these reasons, if I were advising Palin, I'd advise her not to accept. That would make Barry look statesman-like - first time for everything - and put Palin in a bind: either accept, and play rhythm guitar to Barry, or decline, and look partisan and small-minded.

What do you guys think? (The Americans here, not the liberals.)

Given the track record of o... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Given the track record of obama finding scape goats I would like to think that she would not be that stupid.

The problem with obama is that he looks at everything through a political lens. He cannot conceive of a purely technical solution. Any solution that he finds acceptable has to incorporate some payout to favored interest groups.

Additionally, he would have to interfere to ensure that she did not succeed. Her success would be viewed as a direct threat to him therefore it could not be allowed to happen. He would only ask her to intervene in a situation that he could ensure her failure.

Jim, I agree that she would... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Jim, I agree that she would be stupid to accept.

But think of the upside to Barry for even offering: big bipartisanship points with cognitively-challenged independents, and grist for the Ministry of Truth to portray her as partisan.

Fortunately, I don't believe he's bright enough to think of things like this.

I do not think that the (P)... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

I do not think that the (P)resident knows what "bipartisanship" means. He has never practiced it and his narcissistic viewpoint would prevent him from even having the thought.

For a obama, who believes t... (Below threshold)
jim m:

For a obama, who believes that his ideology is absolutely true and all opposition is born out of greed and malice, bipartisanship is unanimous agreement with whatever he wants.

jim x - "However, the... (Below threshold)
Marc:

jim x - "However, the notion that there shouldn't be new wells opened until we know exactly what happened how this one blew out, how to prevent that, and how to clean it up if the worst happens - I don't see how that's a bad idea."

How 'bout this, close all BP wells, given they have a history of safety violations as long as Biden's misguided tongue, inspect the others and MOVE to fuck on with supplying the oil, not to mention the jobs, this country needs.

EXIT question jim x... If obummer is so dead set against deep water oil drilling why has he given Petrobras a 2 billion dollar loan, a company that had net profits of 15 billion in 2009)

A loan that assists them in drilling a well 3 times as deep as the Gulf well.

Asphalt volcano not oil spi... (Below threshold)
amolpatil2k:

Asphalt volcano not oil spill

http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/2010/06/opinion-bp-illusion-of-false-spill.html

What BP, Haliburton, and other co-conspirators intentionally drilled into was an Asphalt Volcano. Sounds scary doesn't it? It really is not. In fact, after you read the above link you'll know that the Gulf of Mexico is literally coated in oil, tar, and methane hydrate at the bottom. The study went on to find that massive aquatic life has specifically adapted to living off of the hydrocarbons. That in fact these asphalt volcanoes are a natural part of the ocean ecology, and their eruptions actually benefit the sea life over the long duration of time.

Another aspect to what I was directly told is that BP, Haliburton, and other co-conspirators drilled intentionally into the 'mid side' of this particular asphalt volcano. Basically from what I understand, it is a soda bottle effect. If they had drilled into the top of the volcano, then all the gas would rise out, and explode as would bottled carbonated liquid. The effect of drilling into the side permits a safely controlled release of gas, tar, liquified asphalt, and other related gases. What was done is a more or less controlled release; almost natural in fact!

"If obummer is so dead set ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"If obummer is so dead set against deep water oil drilling why has he given Petrobras a 2 billion dollar loan, a company that had net profits of 15 billion in 2009"

Well that's just it isn't it.

It's stuff like that which causes people to say that it isn't the drilling that he is against. It's just America that he's against. Against American Jobs. Against American energy independence.

Thousands of jobs will be l... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Thousands of jobs will be lost if Obama had his way with the stopping of drilling. He has no idea what he is doing. HE thinks that halting drilling demonstrated leadership but did the opposite. Showed how uninformed he and his administration are or the most cold hearted. ww

WW-I don't think tha... (Below threshold)
jim m:

WW-
I don't think that his decisions are necessarily that ill informed. I think that he decides from a purely ideological standpoint and ignores the reality of whatever suffering might be incurred by the people affected by his decision.

Lenin was supposed to have said that he estimated that they might have to 'sacrifice' 10% of the Russian population to make their Marxist dream come true. Obama is no different. He will sacrifice whatever it takes to make his policies come true. People are mere tools to be used and then discarded when no longer useful.

What BP, Haliburto... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:
What BP, Haliburton, and other co-conspirators intentionally drilled into was an Asphalt Volcano.

Some people have intentionally drilled into the Stupid Volcano. And they definitely hit the jackpot.

One more thing. If this di... (Below threshold)

One more thing. If this disaster had taken place during the Bush administration, the Pks, (what you do to your finger to draw blood) in the liberal media would be crucifying G.W. for even thinking about stepping on a golf course. How's your game Mr. President?

Oh, fixed your comment for ... (Below threshold)

Oh, fixed your comment for you Jay Guevera.

What do you guys want to pretend to think? (The unreasoning embarrassments to conservatism who would make Goldwater spin in his grave, not the liberals.)
How 'bout this, cl... (Below threshold)
How 'bout this, close all BP wells, given they have a history of safety violations .

I think that would be great. If they aren't being inspected, then they should be. That would be a valid criticism of Obama.

EXIT question jim x... If obummer is so dead set against deep water oil drilling why has he given Petrobras a 2 billion dollar loan, a company that had net profits of 15 billion in 2009)

Exit answer - wouldn't that actually prove that Obama is NOT dead set against deep water drilling? And that he is thus NOT using this to pursue some nefarious socialist agenda?

And Jim m, thank you for your thoughtful response. But I don't see how waiting to drill new wells until we have a further understanding, is necessarily changing the system and creating the risks you mention. It is clear that something went very very wrong here - and the only way to know for sure if it IS a statistical outlier, rather than a possibility with mile-deep drilling that we've avoided until now be sheer luck.

Deep-sea drilling, after all, doesn't date back to the 1930's but until 1968 - so with one horrendous accident in that shorter amount of time, I really don't see how it's proven so safe that we can be so certain this is an outlier. Rather than taking 6 months to really assess what the heck happened. Maybe to require relief wells drilled in at the same time. Or a cap already in place. Or any other measures which can make sure this kind of incident is containable.

OH and Jim m, to liken Obam... (Below threshold)

OH and Jim m, to liken Obama to Lenin is as ridiculous as likening Bush or Cheney to Hitler. Obama is a corporate centrist, as friendly to business as was Bill Clinton - who was greatly loved by the business community, now as well as during his presidency.

How do guys you think both he and Obama managed to raise so much money?

How 'bout this, cl... (Below threshold)
How 'bout this, close all BP wells, given they have a history of safety violations .

I will add, though - I am certain that if he did this:

a) he would get NO more cooperation from BP in fixing the well - and they have the key understanding of their own processes as well as the equipment to do it

b) also any such takeover would be immediately shouted as a "socialist takeover" by every single conservative pundit alive. They couldn't even handle Obama negotiating BP into putting funds in escrow. They'd be yelling Obama Hitler Capone over that.

Jim x,My first poi... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Jim x,

My first point was that from a quality management perspective you do not make drastic changes to you process merely because you have an outlying event. If upon analysis you identify a problem with the process then you make changes. The fact that there are over 800 active wells in the gulf should indicate that this is not a process problem but that specific errors occurred here that are not occurring elsewhere.

No deep water drilling does not date back to the 1930's but offshore drilling does. If you want to remedy that problem the solution is easy: allow drilling in shallower waters. The only reason there is deep water drilling is that the government forbids drilling in shallow water. So the government has forced deep water exploration. We could have safer oil drilling but the government has outlawed it. You cannot have it both ways here. You either want safe and reasonable oil exploration or none at all. Obama has clearly expressed his desire for the latter. That is foolish in the extreme.

AS to the Lenin comment. I was using it to illustrate obama's lack of concern for his fellow human beings. Like Lenin, he is more concerned about the ideology than he is about people. In his world he sees ideological solutions but has no frame of reference to deal with real world problems which ideological solutions often are not good fits. You may take offense to the comparison, but both were ideologues and both advocate state control of social institutions and the economy.

"Obama is a corporate centr... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"Obama is a corporate centrist, as friendly to business as was Bill Clinton - who was greatly loved by the business community, now as well as during his presidency."

Not even remotely. Obama is not a centrist unless you are meaning that he believes in central planning. What he does believe in is the same pay to play politics that he grew up in coming from Chicago. He is willing to take money from people and companies in return for creating special exemptions to his regulations for those people and companies and he also gets their support for the regulations. He got 150 million from the pharmaceutical lobby in return for protecting their markets here in the US. He provided a carve out for the NRA in the new DISCLOSE bill so they can get the same benefits as his union buddies and in return they support the bill.

Obama is not a centrist. His policies are far to the left. He is willing to co-opt businesses and others to get what he wants, but history shows that , like BP, he will take their money for favors now but when trouble comes he will throw them under the bus with great speed.

What do you guys w... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:
What do you guys want to pretend to think? (The unreasoning embarrassments to conservatism who would make Goldwater spin in his grave, not the liberals.)

Comrade X, if liberals could be embarrassed, they'd have dropped dead long ago.

Jim x,A good examp... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Jim x,

A good example of not mindlessly reacting to an accident would be the FAA. They have a history of not over reacting and grounding aircraft because one has an accident.

A great example is AA flight 191 which crashed in 1979. The FAA did not order a grounding and inspection of DC-10's until a couple of weeks later when they identified a specific issue that could be inspected for and corrected. The same should be done here.

Obama is not a quality engineer. He apparently knows nothing of quality management. If so he would not be calling for a moratorium, but he would be expediting an investigation. Instead he has dragged his feet on every phase of this operation.

The conclusion I have come to is that he is indecisive and an ineffectual leader. He wants to take credit for a solution but does not want to take actions which have a risk of failure. So he is paralyzed, unable to act and unable to solve the problem.

While we are on the subject... (Below threshold)
jim m:

While we are on the subject of quality, it would be useful to note that it has already been said that the MMS did not provide proper oversight of the Deep Water Horizon. The MMS allowed BP to cut corners and did not enforce the regulations as they should have. The allegation is that BP, being a significant obama contributor was given special political favors.

So given that the existing fail safe procedure were not followed properly, it is difficult to argue that all wells and all drilling should be shut down when the fault lies not with the process but with the regulatory enforcement.

Oberstgruppenführer Guevera... (Below threshold)

Oberstgruppenführer Guevera, if Goldwater actually could spin in his grave, current "Conservative" thought would have him spinning faster than a dynamo.

Hey, take that back! I'm no... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

Hey, take that back! I'm no socialist!

The current process of airc... (Below threshold)
epador:

The current process of aircraft mishap investigations in the military starts with clearing up the mess and taking care of any living casualties. THEN a thorough safety investigation board manned by experts in all potential disciplines involved with the mishap start work, usually headed by a pilot. Ground control, maintenance, specific avionics experts and human factors experts as well as a flight surgeon come together, gather information and process it together as a think tank, with a final report. THEN if negligence or some serious wrongdoing is suspected, a AIB is formed with similar members to evaluate and mete out punishment is so indicated. This is similar to processes in high risk industrial processes (like the nuclear energy industry).

Note the Obama Administrations actions were mostly in reverse - get the criminal investigations going and keep your boot on the neck of the potential perpetrator.

As noted above, this shows total lack of experience, and likely ignoring the advice of experts, while pursuing political and personal goals.

The Democratically controlled legislature seems unable to call out the incompetence that needs to be impeached here. I suspect that voters have figured this out, and that November will be a bigger blood bath for them than previously expected.

He is willing to t... (Below threshold)
He is willing to take money from people and companies in return for creating special exemptions to his regulations for those people and companies and he also gets their support for the regulations.

Sure, if by "willing to take money" you mean "listened to businesses' concerns and negotiated" - basically like all politicians of both parties have done, forever.

So, Obama offered some things to business that business wanted, in return for business not lobbying against some things that he also wanted.

How does that make him anti-business? As opposed to, simply a good negotiator?

He got 150 million from the pharmaceutical lobby in return for protecting their markets here in the US.

You mean, kinda exactly like GWB did? Does that make GWB anti-business?

He provided a carve out for the NRA in the new DISCLOSE bill so they can get the same benefits as his union buddies and in return they support the bill.

You mean, like the GOP and Democrats have both been making concessions to the NRA as much as possible, forever?

If you wanted more proof of... (Below threshold)
jim m:

If you wanted more proof of obama putting ideology over the needs and lives of Americans look to the decision today to deny financing to Reliance Power Ltd.

Reliance is in India and uses coal fired power plants to provide power for it's customers. Bucyrus Inc of Milwaukee was to sell Reliance mining equipment but with the loans falling through Bucyrus will instead be looking to lay off 1000 workers.

Obama's near religious belief in so called "Green Energy" has lead him to screw a company on the other side of the world and in doing so he has overlooked the consequences to companies here at home that employ Americans. His belief that ideology will triumph over practicality has hurt Americans over and over again.

Obama does this because he believes that in the long run his ideology will prove him to be right and the sacrifices of 1000's or even 10,000's of people are nothing if he is right (which he believes he is without a second thought). My comparison to Lenin was to make the point that Lenin was willing to let millions die because he believed that his ideology would be proven right and that those remaining would be better off in the end.

Obama is no Lenin. He is not the same kind of monster. But then again, Lenin could talk without a teleprompter.

Epador, the moratorium wasn... (Below threshold)

Epador, the moratorium wasn't on operating current drills - it was on creating new ones. And in this case, whatever the flaw may be can't be adequately assessed while BP is still trying to stop the damage.

So that analogy doesn't fit the current situation.

As opposed to, sim... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:
As opposed to, simply a good negotiator?

Al Capone was an even better negotiator.

"You mean, like the GOP and... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"You mean, like the GOP and Democrats have both been making concessions to the NRA as much as possible, forever?"

NO. In the past politicians have given way to the NRA because they speak for a powerful lobby and can deliver votes on election day. That is called listening to your constituency. In this case the NRA has given in to a confiscation of our rights in order to procure special rights for themselves.

As to Bush doing the same thing I would say that both sides have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with power and the sooner we limit that power the safer our rights will be.

The conclusion I h... (Below threshold)
The conclusion I have come to is that he is indecisive and an ineffectual leader...So he is paralyzed, unable to act and unable to solve the problem.

So wait - which is it? Is Obama a ruthless powermad Lenin hell-bent on crushing business so he can implement worldwide socialism - or is he an indecisive and ineffectual leader who can only stand back cringing while other people do things?

He really can only be one or the other. I wish you guys would make up your minds.

Al Capone was an e... (Below threshold)
Al Capone was an even better negotiator.

And so was Moses. I'm not comparing Obama to either.

As to Bush doing the same thing I would say that both sides have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with power and the sooner we limit that power the safer our rights will be.

But that wasn't my question. My question is, if Obama doing that is proof that he's a Socialist, why isn't Bush doing that proof that Bush was a Socialist?

Well?

But then again, Le... (Below threshold)
But then again, Lenin could talk without a teleprompter.

I believe you must be blocking out when Obama went before an entire roomful of Republican Senators, in front of live cameras, and schooled them for a good hour and a half.

I understand why you'd want to forget it. But you really should watch it again. Enjoy:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/29/transcript-of-president-o_n_442423.html

Then you might want to remember George W Bush's famous trainwrecks when facing questions. Ah, that panicked face, the mangled diction...just type "bush gaffes" into Google and see just a little of what I'm talking about. Good times.

NO. In the past po... (Below threshold)
NO. In the past politicians have given way to the NRA because they speak for a powerful lobby and can deliver votes on election day. That is called listening to your constituency. In this case the NRA has given in to a confiscation of our rights in order to procure special rights for themselves.

....because otherwise the NRA would use that to deliver votes against Obama on election day.

In other words, just like nearly everything else that's ever been done with the NRA, ever.

jim x - "Epador, the ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

jim x - "Epador, the moratorium wasn't on operating current drills - it was on creating new ones. And in this case, whatever the flaw may be can't be adequately assessed while BP is still trying to stop the damage. "

You have inavertently shown why the moratorium is bunk.

The 33 wells by all accounts are exploatory, not production wells.

As such they wouldn't carry the same risk as the one that blew out.

jim x - "Sure, if by ... (Below threshold)
Marc:

jim x - "Sure, if by "willing to take money" you mean "listened to businesses' concerns and negotiated" - basically like all politicians of both parties have done, forever."

No what he meant was the millions stolen from GM secured bond holders that was turned into a wondfall for the UAW.

But you knew that asswipe, just won't admit it.

Actually, Marc, since we an... (Below threshold)

Actually, Marc, since we and Jim M were referring to the NRA, that's what I was responding to.

Even an asswipe such as yourself should be aware that the NRA and GM are different organizations.

The 33 wells by all acco... (Below threshold)

The 33 wells by all accounts are exploatory, not production wells.

And?

Suppose it turns out that a previously unrealized risk we've been lucky enough to not meet until now, turns out to be that natural gas pockets lie throughout the gulf, and could blow out exploratory shafts as well? Perhaps even worse, if exploratory shafts are thinner, thus concentrating the blowout?

Unlikely? Maybe. The only certain thing? We don't know, and we won't have a clue until we know more about BP's blowout.

Fantastic post and comments... (Below threshold)

Fantastic post and comments. Here are some numbers and info to fuel the discussion.

Over 3800 producing oil and gas platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Those would be your "production wells".

Many times more manpower, money and equipment is using during "exploratory" drilling than production wells. That's why the moratorium on exploratory drilling has such a serious effect on jobs.

The crude being vented into the ocean from this wellhead is, of course, a mixture of many different hydrocarbons and not the same as a spill of heavy crude from a tanker.

The EPA rules regarding de-oiled water discharge are inane.

This government is made of ... (Below threshold)
Photo Recovery:

This government is made of arms grade fail. You choose an clear suit.




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