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The Kleagle Has Landed (In Hell)

The AP is reporting that semi-repentant former Ku Klux Klan leader and longest-serving United States Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) has finally died.

In tribute to his most notable achievements -- leader of a racist domestic terrorist organization and king of pork-barrel politics -- people are being asked to forgo all other tributes and instead direct their members of Congress to take a billion dollars in federal tax revenues, ship it to West Virginia, attach the bundles to a giant cross, and set it afire.

Byrd was 92, first elected to the House in 1953 and the Senate in 1959. Thanks to his fellow Democrats, he was third in the line of presidential succession, behind Vice President Joe Biden and Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Old age has finally done what the Democrats in Congress could never bring themselves to do: stripped him of his tremendous power and influence, which he used to become the "king of pork" (a title he embraced).

It is almost guaranteed that he will be succeeded by another Democrat, and Byrd has been a virtual non-presence in the Senate for some time due to his declining health, but his passing can not be good news for the Democratic agenda.

Update: Via AJ Strata, the web site FiveThirtyEight says that while West Virginia's governor can appoint a temporary successor, they will only hold the seat until an election can be held in November.


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Then there were 58 Democrat... (Below threshold)
John S:

Then there were 58 Democratic Senators... Makes passing cap and trade during the mad duck session a little less likely.

Well, I guess this means we... (Below threshold)

Well, I guess this means we'll all be taking the "Robert C. Byrd Memorial Portal To The Afterlife" from now on ...

It is almost guaranteed ... (Below threshold)
wolfwalker:

It is almost guaranteed that he will be succeeded by another Democrat,

That's what they were saying about the Drunk Slob a year ago ... but today, the new junior senator from Masshole-land has an R after his name.

May God have mercy on him, ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

May God have mercy on him, for I cant find too much mercy in me for him.

Also expect the dems to try to pass cap and trade in his memory.

First Murtha, thenKennedy, now Byrd, Wonder who is next. Pelosi is in her 70s Dare we hope.


Jay, way back when I was ta... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

Jay, way back when I was taught never to speak ill of the dead. As far as I can remember I have only broken with that lesson for Robert Strange McNamara. And I won't now for (former) Sen. Robert Byrd because, damn, that was a pretty through mauling. Well said!

As John S mentioned, this m... (Below threshold)
hermie:

As John S mentioned, this makes the possibility of breaking a filibuster less likely, unless the Dem Gov appoints someone who has a 'death wish' regarding his or her political future. Also, the Dem Gov's future will also be at stake as whoever he appoints will reflect upon his administration.

I am not stompin on the man... (Below threshold)
ron:

I am not stompin on the mans grave. I want too but I won't.

You know..When a p... (Below threshold)
Shawn:

You know..

When a person dies, especially a politician who you never knew personally, but, you've seen him/her and their body of work, usually one just gives a "Hey, didn't agree, but my condolences" kind of thing.

Over at Huff-Po, most of the reactions are glorious in their praise of this criminal: champion, integrity, incalculable loss, thundering in righteous rage (sheesh).

And another common refrain: "And you showed that people CAN change."

Referring to his KKK hay-days.

I never used to like mustard when I was a kid, but, I changed, and now I do like it.

Me thinks deeply held racist views from a man who was an Exalted Cyclops are a bit harder to just get rid of and change.

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

(A letter from Byrd to a segregationist senator)

Many cited his vote against the Iraq war, somehow dredging Cheney into their little eulogies so they could release a bit of that daily anger.

Once in a while, a person just isn't deserving of a restrained, classy send off.

This seems to fit the bill.

Good riddance, Byrd.

You were an blight on this nation, took our tax dollars and built memorials to yourself, and though some may say you "changed" your racist way of life, you knew the way the wind was blowing, and went with it to further your career.

You are a self-serving, disgusting bigot, who used your position to entrench yourself like a tick into the halls of Congress.

Your passing is a blessing for this country.

-Shawn

Byrd a racist? But Lincoln ... (Below threshold)
Don L:

Byrd a racist? But Lincoln held that Negroes out not be allowed to intermarry nor sit on juries. Surely no one would dare say that the bearded one was racist -would they?

In my book the man aggressively supported abortion (blacks and future feminists die that way a lot) making any liberal -regardless of his other faults, unacceptably immoral.

Forget the pork - Without life, there is no freedom and there can be no other rights to argue about. (and yes I know it's off topic -or is it?)

It wouldn't surprise me if ... (Below threshold)
Clay:

It wouldn't surprise me if he was begging for air conditioning or a glass of ice water at this very moment.

Buh-bye you hypocritical old goat. The world became a better place with your last breath.

As with Ted, I won't dance ... (Below threshold)
ChiefMinion:

As with Ted, I won't dance on Byrd's grave. I will say that being polite in each case is taxing me to the limit.

The more important thing is how this affects November. As I understand (via a post on Malkin's site), this means a special election in November. If the election in WV turns into a referendum about Barry, it could change the calculus in the senate. Getting to 10 was a stretch before. I would argue the situation is still a stretch, but a bit less improbable now.

Can't wait to find out how all this is Cheney's or the Tea Party's fault.

"In my book the man a... (Below threshold)
John S:

"In my book the man aggressively supported abortion..."

He in fact killed more blacks every week as a Senator than the KKK did in 100 years of lynching. I'd doubt the senile coot ever repented his white supremacist ways. Way to go Bob, kill 30 million negros in the womb.

"Pelosi is in her 70s Dare we hope."

I'm thinking Jimmy Carter.

"Like Ted Kennedy's passing... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

"Like Ted Kennedy's passing, this is truly a terrible tragedy. They both died in their sleep like honest men, instead of at the hands of an angry mob."

As seen elsewhere but entirely appropriate.

Maybe Pelosi will give us a... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Maybe Pelosi will give us an encore.

I wonder if Barry will take... (Below threshold)
914:

I wonder if Barry will take a break from gulfing to deliver a touching eulogy.

I bet St. Peter is conducti... (Below threshold)
Roy:

I bet St. Peter is conducting a filibuster on whether Byrd gets through the gate or not.

The supreme court reaffirme... (Below threshold)
retired military:

The supreme court reaffirmed gun rights as well. Gee, things seem to be looking up.

He can now rest in eternity... (Below threshold)
Sir Toby Belch:

He can now rest in eternity with his dog,
Billy. (anyone remember that long, pathetic
eulogy to his dead coonhound on the senate
floor some years ago?)

Boy the dems are just gushi... (Below threshold)
914:

Boy the dems are just gushing teary eye'd over the terrible loss of 'sheets'.

Maybe they should hang a noose at half mast in his honor.

Toby, I almost put that vid... (Below threshold)

Toby, I almost put that video up for this posting. I still might.

914, I tried to come up with a "half staff" line in there, but came up dry. That would have been perfect.

J.

Not a fan of his. May God h... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Not a fan of his. May God have mercy on his soul. ww

Since the man has passed on... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Since the man has passed on, I don't think I will speculate as to his eternal fate.

Then again, for some reason I have this funny idea that right about now, Mr. Byrd is standing before his Maker ...

... who has decided His appearance today should be a lot like Samuel L. Jackson ...

... a nine-foot tall, angry, Samuel L. Jackson.

Robert Byrd on his biggest ... (Below threshold)
Mary Contrary:

Robert Byrd on his biggest mistake (1993):

"Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan."

Strom Thurmond on running as a segregationist Dixiecrat (1998):

"I don't have anything to apologize for, I don't have any regrets. The Dixiecrats were right."

God rest his soul. Out of r... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

God rest his soul. Out of respect for the dead I won't say anything bad about him for a period unless the left go way overboard in their praise of him. It is a hard line to define but you usually know when it is cross. Small exaggeration and concentrating on the positive is one thing but flat out lying or gross exaggeration is another.

It will be interesting if WV will have a special election to fill his seat the way they should or the Democrats will once again circumvent the law by not declaring his seat vacant until after July 3.

A few thoughts, Mary:... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

A few thoughts, Mary:

i - A "mistake" is unintentional and generally minor. If I wear plaid socks to work, that's a mistake. Joining a group which in theory, rhetoric, and practice has engaged in rape, arson, exortion and murder is a bit more severe than a "mistake";

ii - If Senator Byrd had truly repented of his "mistake", we should have seen some evidence of that in his later conduct as a Senator. There is evidence that his conduct and opinion in recent years was no different from his sheet-wearing years;

iii - The facts are clear in history, once one stops the spin. More democrats than republicans opposed the Civil Rights Act. The only political party to ever support slavery in its platform was the Democratic party. The Emancipation Proclamation was presented by a republican. The Poll Tax and Jim Crow laws were uniformly passed and defended by democrats. The Left will try to spin perspection, but facts are stubborn.

Robert Byrd on his biggest ... (Below threshold)
Mary Contrary:

Robert Byrd on his biggest mistake (1993):

"But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts."

Strom Thurmond on running as a segregationist Dixiecrat (1998):

"I don't have anything to apologize for, I don't have any regrets. The Dixiecrats were right."

Mary, trotting out one dead... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Mary, trotting out one dead segregationist that has been used to flog anyone associated with him for decades somehow should avert the criticism of another dead racist?

[an] angry, Samuel L. Ja... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

[an] angry, Samuel L. Jackson

Is there another kind of Samuel L. Jackson?

Timothy Noah (2002):<... (Below threshold)
Mary Contrary:

Timothy Noah (2002):

"Have Byrd and Hollings atoned sufficiently for their previous views and policies? Probably not. But they have renounced them. Thurmond never will."

Mary is spamming multiple b... (Below threshold)

Mary is spamming multiple blogs with this crap. Ignore her.

While you're all at it, you... (Below threshold)

While you're all at it, you should also completely ignore the fact that Mary Contrary is right.

Oh, and re: Byrd and being ... (Below threshold)

Oh, and re: Byrd and being pro-choice:

Byrd didn't consider fetuses to be fully grown human infants. So to imply that he was an intentional baby-killer because he was pro-choice is pretty sick.

However, even if that were the case, Byrd supported pro-choice for everyone - he in no way singled out African-Americans. So even if you think abortion is killing humans, you can't honestly accuse Byrd of racism here.

And re: # 25 - yes, the Dem... (Below threshold)

And re: # 25 - yes, the Democratic party contained quite a few racists at one time.

It was the success in passing of the Civil Rights act which drove many of these racists out of the Democratic party. They either became Republicans outright, or became what is known as Dixiecrats - voting Democratic in state elections, but Republican in nationwide ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson#Civil_rights

"In conjunction with the civil rights movement, Johnson overcame southern resistance and convinced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlawed most forms of racial segregation....Legend has it that, as he put down his pen, Johnson told an aide, "We have lost the South for a generation", anticipating a coming backlash from Southern whites against Johnson's Democratic Party.

You should also read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrats#White_South_to_GOP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

The fox news ticker today s... (Below threshold)
LiberalNitemare:

The fox news ticker today said that Byrd had briefly been a member of the KKK. I guess promotion comes fast in that outfit.

Actually, its rather intere... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

Actually, its rather interesting that those Democratic senators that voted against the civil rights act? Only ONE didn't retire a democrat.\

jim x, You're a... (Below threshold)

jim x,

You're a little misinformed if you don't understand that abortion is rooted in racism. The founder of Planned Parenthood could have taught eugenics to Hitler. Her stated intention was to rid the nation of undesirables like minorities. Beyond that you're confused about what abortion does - it kills a very young human being. The child doesn't magically change from something else into a human based on drawing a breath outside the womb.

For those speculating on the deceased's final destination,

I'd recommend not assuming we are capable of discerning that since (in the words of the current president) "that's above our paygrade." There are some people truly evil in this world. However, I have to believe no one is beyond redemption. I pray I am not judged by my worst moments. So I can not wish that others be only judged by the worst of their moments.

Byrd was clearly wrong on many political matters and abused his position to ensure federal funds were spent to glorify his name and ensure his reelection. I have no doubt that Byrd was raised in a time and environment that was not enlightened on race relations. Only he really knows if he outgrew the racism he expressed when younger.

Largebill, do you have any ... (Below threshold)

Largebill, do you have any evidence to suggest that abortion is rooted in racism?

Because "The founder of Planned Parenthood could have" is not evidence.

I could just as well claim that being anti-abortion is rooted in racism, because Jerry Falwell could have taught Christianity to Hitler.

But instead, I'll ask you a question:

Let's say you're in a doctor's office, and there's a sudden fire. You only have enough to time to save two fertilized embryos in petri dishes, or ONE living 2-year-old girl. Which do you save?

I think your answer will tell you how you really feel about whether or not a fetus is automatically a living human being from conception.

NPR today repeatedly played... (Below threshold)
epador:

NPR today repeatedly played old interviews with him, including his statements about his "brief" foray into the KKK which he deeply regrets (to the careful listener, he "regrets joining the KKK, filibustering the Civil Rights Act, etc. but NEVER says Racism is a wrong a vile thing. He merely warns young people to beware what organizations they join).

So much for impartial journalism from the left.

Epador, accusing people on ... (Below threshold)

Epador, accusing people on the basis of things they *don't* say is the worst possible journalism of them all.

jim x, kind of like how so ... (Below threshold)

jim x, kind of like how so many heard "boy" at the end of the infamous "you lie!" exclamation?

Or the people who didn't shout "nigger" at the Congressional Black Caucus before the health care vote?

But the subject at hand is Byrd. Was he a loathsome man who did bad things for the nation? And was he enabled for years by the Democrats?

You'll have to go a long way to get me to defend pretty much any member of Congress.

J.

jim x, You're m... (Below threshold)

jim x,

You're making even less sense now. Are you claiming that abortions are performed to save a two year old? I'm not a fireman. However, I'd hope I'd have the bravery to try to save all lives I could. I'd tell the two year old to run and I'd grab the younger children if that helps solve your conundrum.

Do a little research on Margaret Sanger if you are still confused on the original intent of Planned Parenthood. I'm not here to defend Jerry Falwell. He, like all of us, had his failings. Many claim to be representing God, but misrepresent much of the message. More than one hundred and fifty years ago there were many preachers in the south who failed to see the evil of slavery. Defend evil all you want if that is your thing, but don't try to draw me into the same game.

Largebill,No, that... (Below threshold)

Largebill,

No, that doesn't solve the conundrum. That only avoids it.

The kid is anesthetized, so you can't tell him to do anything. You can only grab the kid or the embryos in petri dishes; one or the other will be perish in the fire. Which do you take?

jim x, kind of like how ... (Below threshold)

jim x, kind of like how so many heard "boy" at the end of the infamous "you lie!" exclamation?

No, actually. That's suspecting someone of saying something. Epador isn't even doing that.

What he's doing is actually *knowing* someone didn't say something, and criticizing them **because he knows they didn't say it**.

This would be exactly like me accusing you of racism, because in your previous comment you didn't say "racism is bad".

But the subject at hand ... (Below threshold)

But the subject at hand is Byrd. Was he a loathsome man who did bad things for the nation? And was he enabled for years by the Democrats?

I know that you guys want to think he was. But he was a man with a racist beginning who repented, and then did great things for all Americans.

So I don't see how admitting a grave mistake and then changing makes him a loathsome man. Let alone "enabled by the Democrats", when outright unrepentant and unwavering racists like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms maintained their unwavering views for decades.

jim x, You're ... (Below threshold)

jim x,

You're still wasting your time. A decent person would do their best. No decent person would modify their value system based on a silly hypothetical question from someone on the internet.

Separately, you make the following statement as though it is fact instead of opinion: "But he was a man with a racist beginning who repented, and then did great things for all Americans." You can have the opinion that he did great things for ALL Americans. Other people can believe he only did great things for West Virginia. Another group of people could firmly believe he voted for awful programs that will bankrupt our nation in the future. As to repenting, well only he knows whether he changed his views on racial matters. Bottom line is he was a complicated historical figure who different people will feel differently about. He's far from the best man to serve in public office and he is far from the worst. He clearly stayed in office too long. It is awfully difficult to walk away from power.

Largebill,A hypoth... (Below threshold)

Largebill,

A hypothetical question is a test case for what your value system really is. I'm not asking you to change your value system - I'm just asking you to show it.

If you really think that an embryo is a human being from the point of conception, then the answer should be obvious: save two human beings instead of one.

Why is this not the obvious choice for you?

As to repenting, well on... (Below threshold)

As to repenting, well only he knows whether he changed his views on racial matters.

We can never know what's inside a person's mind. But repenting is a public statement. He publicly repented, and his actions from that point on showed him to be in support of racial equality.

So to continue to call him a racist after he publicly repented his racist past, and after all his further legislative actions were in support of racial equality and against racism - then that is slander without evidence.

You can disagree with whether or not his policies were good for America - that's an entirely different issue.

Jimm XSheets on Ra... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Jimm X

Sheets on Race relations circa 2001

They're much, much better than they've ever been in my lifetime ... I think we talk about race too much. I think those problems are largely behind us ... I just think we talk so much about it that we help to create somewhat of an illusion. I think we try to have good will. My old mom told me, 'Robert, you can't go to heaven if you hate anybody.' We practice that. There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time, if you want to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country, and I'd just as soon quit talking about it so much.[57]

You can take the Byrd out of the Klan but you cannot take the Klan out the Byrd May 2001


Margaret Sanger in her own words and writings.


"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."

"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."

"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

Though to be fair she did object to Hitler killing adults.

"All the news from Germany is sad & horrible, and to me more dangerous than any other war going on any where because it has so many good people who applaud the atrocities & claim its right. The sudden antagonism in Germany against the Jews & the vitriolic hatred of them is spreading underground here & is far more dangerous than the aggressive policy of the Japanese in Manchuria.."[24]

she rather kill children.

"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."

SOme say never speak ill of the dead. Well I think you should live a life where no one need to remember your evil deeds.

hcddbz-y, notice the exact ... (Below threshold)

hcddbz-y, notice the exact words of my previous statement:

So to continue to call him a racist after he publicly repented his racist past, and after all his further legislative actions were in support of racial equality and against racism - then that is slander without evidence.

Got any actions? Any votes or legislation he sponsored?

So, yes, Byrd used the "n" word - very specifically towards white people who he thought were embarrassing to everyone. I don't see how that continues to mean he's a Klansman who worked to hurt black people.

As for Margaret Sanger, yes that's some shockingly racist stuff. Which, incidentally, doesn't have a darn thing to do with women having the right to choose whether or not their embryo will go the way of some tissue or develop one day into a human being. Any more than Henry Ford being a Nazi sympathizer would mean you're antisemitic if you drive a car.

Jim XAside from vo... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Jim X

Aside from voting against the Civil rights act?.
Look if IMUS use of Nappy can be the new N word then someone who still uses the real N word so much it rolls off his tongue in an TV interview not once but twice is still racist. Byrd admonition about joining the Klan was" not to do it if your going to go into politics."

Sanger found an organization with the goal of to prevent multiplication of this bad stock."


Eugenics is the study and practice of selective breeding applied to humans, with the aim of improving the species.

You're a little misinformed if you don't understand that abortion is rooted in racism. The founder of Planned Parenthood could have taught eugenics to Hitler. Her stated intention was to rid the nation of undesirables like minorities. Beyond that you're confused about what abortion does - it kills a very young human being. The child doesn't magically change from something else into a human based on drawing a breath outside the womb.
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."


Sanger unlike Jerry Falwell and Henry Ford did not form an organization to eliminate people Sanger did.

The NAZI had the Final Solution to the jewish problem in Europe. The formed and organization within hitlers elite guard the SS to carry it out. Sanger did the same Planed Parent Hood operates in mostly in minority neighborhoods and she is caring out her plan of extermination.


In America today, almost as many African-American children are aborted as are born.

A black baby is three times more likely to be aborted(murdered) in the womb than a white baby.

Since 1973, abortion has reduced the black population by over 25 percent.

Twice as many African-Americans have died from abortion than have died from AIDS, accidents, violent crimes, cancer, and heart disease combined.

Every three days, more African-Americans are killed by abortion than
have been killed by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire history.

Planned Parenthood operates the nation's largest chain of abortion clinics and almost 80 percent of its facilities are located in minority neighborhoods.

About 13 percent of American women are black, but they
submit to over 35 percent of the abortions.

Aside from voting ... (Below threshold)
Aside from voting against the Civil rights act?.

You mean, the vote that he later repented, along with the segregationist views that led to it?

Byrd explicitly renounced his earlier views on racial segregation.[59][60] Byrd had said that he regretted filibustering and voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964[27] and would change it if he had the opportunity.
Above quote from here:... (Below threshold)
OK, jim x, let's let that s... (Below threshold)

OK, jim x, let's let that slide for now.

Defend his Senate career apart from that.

The man grabbed every single penny he could from the federal government and hauled it back to West Virginia. He demanded -- and got -- every federal facility he could relocated to his home state. He even got the Coast Guard to set up its Operations Systems Center in Martinsburg -- about 100 miles inland.

The man did great harm to our nation. Period.

J.

Jim X, Apologies w... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Jim X,

Apologies were never accepted for IMUS, Lott, Bob Grant. all which had motivations and intent attributed to their statements. So many tines we been told that right wingers speak code words and that their all secret racist, That when the apologize for anything it not enough because their harts cannot change. Yet someone who not only joined the Klan but became a die hard recruiter for it in time when Lynchings were on the rise. Who 20 years later did along filibuster against the civil rights movement. Who still uses the word nig*** for derogatory way.
Sorry do not buy it.




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