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Naming Your Fears

Well, the latest anti-Tea-Party movement is underway. And I'm betting it'll be just as effective and long-lasting and powerful as these prior attempts.

Of all the attempts, this one has to be the most honest. Instead of trying to steal the Tea Party's momentum or paint them as extremists or mock them as irrelevant, it is an open expression of their exasperation and anger and contempt.

And most of all, fear.

The thing that the left can't quite grasp about the Tea Party is its fundamental nature. They are so wrapped up in their own model of organizing for power that they simply can't conceive of the opposite working. For the left, it's almost exclusively top-down organizing -- bigwigs set the tone, supply the money, and provide the connections the liberal groups need to prosper.

But the Tea Party is just the opposite. It's bottom-up. It's the little people getting together and working for some generalized common goals and ideals. There's no overarching structure, no big leaders, no national organizations.

That doesn't stop the left. They have their model, and by god they're going to make the Tea Party fit into it. So they go looking for people they can cast as the "leaders" so they can tear them down -- and take the movement with it.

Which usually leaves the Tea Partiers amused and wondering who the hell these "leaders" are that they are supposed to be so ashamed of.

And then there's Sarah Palin. She's never far from the left's minds. They constantly attack and denigrate her and run her down, harping on how insignificant and unsubstantial and pathetic she is. They even drag her into stories where she has no real connection -- witness the (sigh) New Hampshire lawmakers who had to bring her up when former Senator Ted Stevens was killed this week. (I have to note that the State Representative who resigned after his Facebook comment represented the Durham area, one of my state's most liberal enclaves, and was a re-located Masshole who I'd dearly love to send back across the border to the land of Kennedy, Kerry, and Frank.)

What is the obsession with Palin and the Tea Party? If they are so pathetic and insignificant and meaningless, why must they be attacked and destroyed?

Because the left knows that these represent a lot of things about average Americans -- both good and bad. They're genuine American creatures, warts and all. And that means that they have tremendous appeal for a lot of Americans, who can see a bit of themselves -- not as they wish they were, but as they are and aspire to be.

And that is why they must be destroyed. That level of honesty is utterly intolerable.


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"What is the obsession with... (Below threshold)
Don L:

"What is the obsession with Palin and the Tea Party? If they are so pathetic and insignificant and meaningless, why must they be attacked and destroyed?"

I see this as extremely similar to those Hitchens' type of atheists who spend their entire lives fighting the God they insist doesn't exist.

An aside Jay -the most liberal part of NH is any city near the Massachusetts border where liberals moved in droves to escape the taxes they fully supported when there.

Whats funny is that the est... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

Whats funny is that the establishment old school Republican RINO leadership is the same way. They HATE Sarah and the TEA party conservatives like nothing I've ever seen.

Go figure.

Well, as they say, "There's a new sheriff in town and they ain't playing by your rules." The 'conservative' is being put back into the party that appears to have been taken over by a bunch of spineless go along to get along scared of offending their betters in the Democrat party pussies.

There's changes coming to an election near you, get out, vote and take back the GOP from the liberals that are running it right now.

DonL: "I see this as extrem... (Below threshold)
Drago:

DonL: "I see this as extremely similar to those Hitchens' type of atheists who spend their entire lives fighting the God they insist doesn't exist."

Correct.

I'm always amazed at how angry these types of people are.

If I may paraphrase a famous writer: "These people seem to be very angry at God for not existing....."

It's really interesting to ... (Below threshold)
cirby:

It's really interesting to see the various left-wing folks try to deride the Tea Party on other message boards.

First, they try to claim a bunch of things that didn't happen, or have nothing to do with the Tea Party (racism, violence, etc), and attribute motives to the Tea Party that are not, by any stretch, part of the overall message ("here's a photo of one guy who supported higher government spending on this one thing - you Tea Partiers don't really want actual cuts in spending").

Second, they try to attach people to the Tea Party movement who are not only NOT part of it, but are opposed to much of the message (long-time Washington insiders, big businesses, lefties pretending to be Tea Party members).

Third, they try direct ridicule, and toss around whatever "new" insult they can come up with (or, more to the point, that someone on HuffPo or Kos came up with).

"That level of honesty is u... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"That level of honesty is utterly intolerable."

Nailed it.

They subconciously know the... (Below threshold)
Roy:

They subconciously know the Tea Partiers are right, and they are wrong. That will tend to bug you a bit.

I look forward to the Novem... (Below threshold)
TexBob:

I look forward to the November sound of libtard heads exploding one after another from their rage at losing the House and the Senate.

Pop, pop, pop, goes the libtard. Better stock up on that duct tape now before the shelves are empty Lee.

The liberals love labels. T... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

The liberals love labels. They have to label a group so they can then make their bumper stickers and protest signs. The Tea Party members are frustrating them because they cut across all areas of race, ideology and faith. I am really enjoying watching the liberal talking heads trying so hard to identify a "leader" of the movement so they can cut it from the herd. I am a Tea Party participant and no one contacts me or tells me what to say. I have not signed anything and they do not have any contact information on me. The local news will say there is going to be a Tea Party rally in the area, then I go. Simple as that. It is why we are going that is the answer, not the who. ww

Remembering saying ... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Remembering saying something about not dismissing the Tea Party as irrelevant and unimportant here on this blog, some time ago.

Despite the best efforts of the MSM and others, it's growing and growing. After attending several here in my area, I believe even more strongly that it (we) ARE going to make an appreciable difference this year.


Now if only I can restrain the urge to spread the next nit who calls me a "teabagger" like peanut butter......

roy: "They subconciously kn... (Below threshold)
Drago:

roy: "They subconciously know the Tea Partiers are right, and they are wrong."

I don't know about that Roy. I think your assertion necessarily implies an ability to engage in serious introspection that is clearly lacking on the left.

I would need to see some rigorous data or at least some significant anecdotal evidence of that capability on the left before I could begin to seriously consider it.

They've tried everything th... (Below threshold)
Hank:

They've tried everything they can to discredit the Tea Party, now resorting to the incredibly juvenile F*ck Tea "movement".

From Jay's link, this is: "to dismiss the tea party and promote the progressive cause."

If this is their latest and greatest idea, libs are in more trouble than they have the capacity to understand.

The liberals love labels... (Below threshold)

The liberals love labels. They have to label a group so they can then make their bumper stickers and protest signs.

Yeah! And you know what's even worse about liberals? They *generalize*. They take the behavior of a few individuals, and tar an entire group of people with it. Rather than consider that some people's worst behavior is owned by those people - not the product of an overall conscious decision by every member of the group.

Isn't it terrible how all liberals do that? Fortunately it's only liberals.

"What is the obsession with... (Below threshold)
914:

"What is the obsession with Palin and the Tea Party? If they are so pathetic and insignificant and meaningless, why must they be attacked and destroyed?"


For the same reason Bush was and still is.

unbridled HATRED!!


Jimx--see Journoli... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Jimx--see Journolist.

Jim X was satisfied in the ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Jim X was satisfied in the early ninties. Liberals loved the fact that the MSM was all liberal leaning and almost impossible to get any opposing viewpoint out. Then came Rush, Fox News and the internet, now the liberals cannot control the message anymore so they try to take down the messenger. Like Rush, O'Reilly, Palin, etc. Won't work. The ability to get the message out is totally equal now. Jim X, live with it. ww

Jim X was playing with alph... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Jim X was playing with alphabet blocks in the early 90's.

"They've tried everythin... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"They've tried everything they can to discredit the Tea Party, now resorting to the incredibly juvenile F*ck Tea "movement".

I think I know who started the "F*ck Tea" thing. It was Lee and it was directed at Jay Tea. Someone just misinterpreted it and thought he was talking about the Tea Party movement and then ran with it.

The left wants to emphasize... (Below threshold)
Jon F:

The left wants to emphasize the Tea Party to help win moderate votes in the 2010 elections. I support the grass-roots nature of the Tea Party, but I am nervious that some of the extreme views may hurt Republicans and help Democrats. (e.g. the Senate races of Nevada, Florida, and Colorado).

Don't worry about Nevada. T... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Don't worry about Nevada. They are very conservative by nature. The only liberals that have any clout in the state of Nevada, are the ones that live in Reno, Lake Tahoe and Las Vegas. Most of them moved there from California to avoid paying the hight taxes that are there.

The left - the public pensi... (Below threshold)
wtfo:

The left - the public pensioner, civil servant, schoolteacher left - is utterly terrified of the Tea Party.

I have a handful of friends and family who seem quite oblivious to the political leanings of everyone else around them. Seeing the looks on their faces as they bring up "those Tea Party people" is priceless.

And I'll be honest, it's not that they hate them, or think they're crazy, or think that they're racist. What scares them is that there are so damn many of them, and it sounds like they really mean it. "Oh my God, there are millions of people who want to cut our jobs, benefits, and pensions...."

Concern troll shitting on a... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Concern troll shitting on aisle 18!

Come on, dude - you really think you're not noticeable? The concept of the government being responsible to the people is so extreme that it makes you 'nervious'?

The Dems are in a death spiral - they figured they could become aristocrats - unaccountable to those they ruled. And with the willing cooperation of the media, they could keep control w/no problem.

But we won't be ruled by a pack of idiots that think paying $24k for each $4k rebate's a good use of taxpayer money, and who have NO idea what's in the damn bills they pass!

18. Posted by Jon F | Augus... (Below threshold)
LeBron Steinman:

18. Posted by Jon F | August 13, 2010 1:07 PM.

LOL. Yeah, sure, "Jon F".
I'll bet you're a "lifetime Republican" who "voted for Reagan" and is a "concerned Christian".
Review your seminar syllabus to make yourself seem more convincing.

John F really needs to get ... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

John F really needs to get out more if he thinks Florida's Senate race has shown "extreme views".

I think he might have confused "extreme views" with "common sense".

Fixed your post for you, Wi... (Below threshold)

Fixed your post for you, Wildwilliw.

Wildwillie was satisfied in the early 2000's. Conservatives loved the fact that the MSM was all Conservative leaning and almost impossible to get any opposing viewpoint out. Then came The Daily Show, The Colbert Report and Daily Kos, now the liberals still cannot control the message but conservatives still pretend they're victims. Like Rush, O'Reilly, Palin, etc. Won't work. The ability to get the message out is totally unequal. But as some conservatives get more extreme they complain that people aren't treating lunatics like Sarah Palin and Sharron Angle as princesses, but are actually asking them questions. WW, live with it. ww
The funny thing is, # 18 pr... (Below threshold)

The funny thing is, # 18 probably is a conservative. He just can see Tea Party candidates are splitting the conservative vote and losing seats that would otherwise go to the GOP. But apparently you guys don't want to face that.

So it is. : ) Speaking as a liberal, please by all means continue to support the Tea party. I think they're composed of astroturfers manipulating people's fears to vote against their own interests - but hey, it's America and vote how you want. I think the public is rejecting the Tea party's "message" for the contradictory melange that it is, but I guess we'll see for sure in November of 2010.

Again Jim X speaks out of i... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Again Jim X speaks out of ignorance. (big surprise) There is no fear coming from the Tea Party movement. But liberals try so hard to make citizens fear the movement. It isn't working. Been to the party's and they are very positive. All about how great America is and how the hard working taxpayers want the government to quit spending on those that do not contribute. Like Jim X. See, the Tea Party members have jobs. Jim, that is the thing most people go to everyday where they perform their skill and in return get paid. The government then taxes that money and gives a huge proportion of that money to those that do not, will not work. ww

Oh, come on Wildwillie. The... (Below threshold)

Oh, come on Wildwillie. There is constant fear coming from the Tea Party. Who are you trying to kid?

The Tea Partiers *aren't* saying Obama is going to ruin the nation? That these deficits are going to destroy our country? That Obama secretly hates white people? That Obama hates America?

You can think all those are true - I of course don't, but that's a separate argument. But are you honestly going to sit there and type at me that none of these fears are prime motivating factors within the Tea Party?

Maybe you don't realize it's fear, because that's what Fox, Rush et al are selling you all the time. You think it's hope or something. News flash: no.

Oh and FYI, Wildwillie - you have a special kind of nerve to call me ignorant, and at the same time state as a fact that I don't work and get paid. Which, if facts matter to you, is completely wrong on both counts.

To be completely clear, in the hopes that this will penetrate your head and stay there: Wildwillie, I have a full-time job and I pay taxes. I just want those taxes spent in a way that makes this country better.

But, since you are so fired up to not wanting to pay taxes, I presume you will turn down Social Security, stop using public roads, and eat only uninspected food. And if your house burns down you will refuse the help of the Fire Department.

woo.

jim x:The Tea P... (Below threshold)

jim x:

The Tea Partiers *aren't* saying Obama is going to ruin the nation? That these deficits are going to destroy our country? That Obama secretly hates white people? That Obama hates America?

Yes, yes, no, no.

Next question? Or questions?

J.

jimx,You seem to h... (Below threshold)
MichaelC:

jimx,

You seem to have no idea how vacuous your spiel appears to the rest of us here. It is clear that your fears have overcome you as November draws near. At least you'll have lots of company to grieve with on how much you underestimated what is going on.

Less projection on the part of liberals might help provide a clearer picture and more understanding but hey, why start now.

Re: # 28 - okay then. Your ... (Below threshold)

Re: # 28 - okay then. Your two "Yes's" confirm that fear of those items is part of the Tea Party's motivation.

MichaelC,I'm well ... (Below threshold)

MichaelC,

I'm well aware you guys disagree with my opinions. It is clear to me that you guys are in complete denial about what are prime motivating factors among the Tea Party.

I find it interesting that you think this is not only projection, but projection that is due to fear on my part. But, you're entitled to your opinion.

It seems pretty obvious already, from a mere factual analysis of election primaries, that Tea Party candidates are splitting the vote and causing independents to flee GOP candidates wherever Tea Party candidates win nominations.

However, we will indeed see in November. When that happens, and if and when I am proven correct in this, I hope you will use this as an opportunity to consider that you may have been very wrong, and I was actually right.

Another loving leftist has ... (Below threshold)
Jon Lovitz:

Another loving leftist has created a "sarah Palin suicide tie" for sale on Zazzle.

http://www.zazzle.com/sarah_palin_suicide_tie-151904641310195958
I didn't know you were that creative, "jim x".

I'm well aware you guys ... (Below threshold)

I'm well aware you guys disagree with my opinions. It is clear to me that you guys are in complete denial about what are prime motivating factors among the Tea Party.

I find it interesting that you think this is not only projection, but projection that is due to fear on my part. But, you're entitled to your opinion.

jim x, I'd be curious where you gathered your data to reach that conclusion. You see, unlike you (I presume), I've been to a Tea Party gathering. I know precisely why I was there, and the people there were quite clear about why they were there.

I've also done quite a bit of reading about Tea Partiers, listening to what they say about their motives. And you know what? They make sense.

Here's a possibility: they don't have a hidden agenda. They don't have a secret plan. There's no grand conspiracy behind them. They're just what they say they are -- no more, and no less.

As opposed to all these "anti-Tea-Party" movements that always to have far more money than members. As well as the lifespan of a fruit fly.

J.

Jay Tea, if you want to fin... (Below threshold)

Jay Tea, if you want to find out my sources of info, just go to Google.

I don't think the Tea Partiers as individuals or even groups have some sort of grand plan. Quite the opposite - I think they're a bunch of people with *no* plan other than what they don't like. I just think they are being manipulated - by people who tell them what they want to here in order to sell them stuff.

And the manipulation isn't some grand cabal either - it's a bunch of individual clowns acting as ringleaders. Not only Fox, but Glenn Beck on radio is making droves off of scared people, freaking them out into buying the gold that just happens to heavily endorse him. Rush is being forced to ratchet up the crazy just to stave off Beck's competition. Sarah Palin is making bank off of appearances, while offering no actual policy solutions. That's my opinion - but that's what I see.

As for whether or not my other opinions are accurate regarding the Tea Party, see this poll:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544.html

"Eighty-eight percent [of the Tea Party members surveyed] disapprove of President Obama's performance on the job, compared to 40 percent of Americans overall....Asked to volunteer what they don't like about Mr. Obama, the top answer, offered by 19 percent of Tea Party supporters, was that they just don't like him."

Not liking someone without knowing why - that's pretty ridiculous to me. But there it is. It speaks to either being manipulated, or just not caring and wanting someone to dislike.

Also of interest to me, is a majority involved in a willful denial of the facts:

"Sixty-four percent believe that the president has increased taxes for most Americans, despite the fact that the vast majority of Americans got a tax cut under the Obama administration. "

As for where members of the Tea Party get their (in my opinion extremely poor) information, it seems I am again not surprised - it's overwhelmingly Fox:

"Sixty-three percent say they get the majority of their political and current events news on television from the Fox News Channel, compared to 23 percent of Americans overall."

And as for how the Tea Party will work with voters who *aren't* members, i.e. the vast majority of Americans:

"An overwhelming majority of Tea Party supporters, 84 percent, say the views of the Tea Party movement reflect the views of most Americans. But Americans overall disagree: Just 25 percent say the Tea Party movement reflects their beliefs, while 36 percent say it does not."

And how has the Tea Party worked for the electorate so far? Sarah Palin's Hoffman candidate turned a NY district that's been Republican since the freakin' CIVIL WAR into a Democrat pickup. Sharron Angle's turning into an absolute gift for Harry Reid (as I predicted here previously.) Crist's been driven out of the GOP in Florida, and so is moving forward as an Independent and is likely to win - in which case he will probably caucus with the Democrats.

All of which shows the blind spot that is causing the extreme right-wing Tea Party to lose:

The Tea Party's members **wants to think** they are in touch with the majority opinion of America - but they simply **are not**.

Here's what the future holds.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/24/tea-party-candidates-could-play-spoiler-role-says-poll/?fbid=kGZcEkl09-g

#32 - I am very creative. B... (Below threshold)

#32 - I am very creative. But I certainly wouldn't wish ill on Sarah Palin. NOt only is it not my style, but even it were I think she's an absolute gift to liberals. She makes moderates run screaming to the Left, just like she did as VP for John McCain.

Let's see, Jim... I've gone... (Below threshold)

Let's see, Jim... I've gone to a Tea Party and actually listened to the attendees... but YOU have actually defeated me with your awesome Google Fu. Your willingness to sublimate your own judgment and utter lack of curiosity at finding out things for yourself have put me to shame.

Pardon me if I put just a smidgen more faith into those things I've personally investigated and verified. You, on the other hand, seem quite good at seeking out those who reinforce what you already believe, and don't bother even considering things that might contradict your tender prejudices.

J.

Jay Tea, you are apparently... (Below threshold)

Jay Tea, you are apparently comfortable working with anecdotal information rather than an overview, when it comes to the Tea Party.

What's wrong with this? The same thing that's wrong with estimating the prosperity of all cities, by estimating your particular neighborhood. Or estimating the intelligence of all teenagers, by looking at your neighbor's kid.

Do you see the limitations of making that sort of assumption?

And, more importantly, would you accept that argument towards a group you didn't like?




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