Why, dear sir, are you still wondering?

I commented a few days ago that Bush would have done the same thing - endorsed the muslims' right to freedom of religion. It's the only sane answer. Constitutional rights aren't thrown away just because a bunch of christians get their panties in a bunch.

But then when I pointed out that Bush was just as effusive about islam as Obama was in Mr. Mallow's post commenters blasted that just because Bush didn't it doesn't mean it's right.

But when Bush and Obama both have the same view it suggests that opposing views are on the extreme left or right. In this case denying the constitutional rights of new york muslims makes no sense - therefore we know it'll be popular amongst right wing nutcakes and the lunatic fringe.

Once a muslim, always a muslim I say.

Those days spent in the madrassa in Indonesia are seared in Barry Hussein's memory like John Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia.

Barry's just in campaign mode. Got to get out the vote.

Seems everybody has 'rights'. The hard part appears to be the responsible use of those same rights.

Pretty hard 'to build a bridge' when you've already planted dynamite under the pilings.

C'mon, is anybody really surprised? That leopard ain't changin' his spots.

Not that its got zero's endorsement its sure to fail.

Your so Dane-

"I commented a few days ago that Bush would have done the same thing - endorsed the muslims' right to freedom of religion"

So you speak for Bush? Ok, What does he think about lackwit destroying the worlds free markets?

Of course Bush would have supported "freedom of religion", any American would. BUT you have missed the point, the Mosque being built in sacred space has nothing what so ever to do with freedom of religion. It has to do with consciousness, or lack there of. It has to do with the concept of right (as in right and wrong), over privilege. It has to do with feeling over thinking. It has to do with what are American sensibilities.

Americans were killed in the name of Allah, maybe not everybody's interpretation of Allah, but few, very few stood up and said, not my Allah, not my interpretation of Islam. Americans went out of their way to make sure that Muslims were not hurt by the actions of a few. In return we get a Mosque at ground zero. What could some Muslims be thinking?

How about Barry calling for putting up a cross and a menorah on the road to Mecca? Never happen - it take cojones to say something like that. The asshole should just not say anything.

Why would a Kenyan Muslim not support a mosque at Ground Zero??

"In return we get a Mosque at ground zero. What could some Muslims be thinking?"

Whatever they want to think. In addition to freedom of religion, they have freedom of thought.

You don't get to decide what they are thinking and then deny them their Constitutional rights because you decide they're thinking bad thoughts.

This country is the land of the free and the home of the brave. New York muslims are both free and also brave, in my view, for building a mosque after so many lies have been told and so much anger has been expressed and so many people have tried to take away their liberties -- especially the right wing ideologues Palin and Gingrich.

I'm proud my president stood up for the first amendment. No matter what you decide these people are thinking, the Constitution permits them to practice their religion at the site they've chosen - at any site they choose. You'd scream if your freedom of religion was taken away, or at least you should scream. Maybe you wouldn't - maybe you'd curl up into a ball and roll away. It takes bravery to stand up to the mob who have expressed such bitter hatred.

"It takes bravery to stand up to the mob who have expressed such bitter hatred."

You mean 'bitter hatred' similar to that Muslims showed when they brought down the towers and killed thousands on 9/11? That kind of hatred?

Did the governor of NY offer money and other locations for them to build this mosque elsewhere or not?

Dane, you so miss the point. Typical of liberals, you are out to lunch on this. This is not about 'religious freedom' and everything about insulting the memory of those burned down on 9/11.

For crying out loud, "your president" wanted to bring the world's most notorious terrorist (only behind OBL) to NYC and put him on trial there (giving him a forum to bash this country) for some insane reason - until the rightful public outcry grew so loud even this tone-deaf White House had to back-track.

Bravery? Hardly. It would be brave for this president to stand up for this country and the memory of those who died and say 'no' to those whose sole purpose of building this mosque at Ground Zero is insult and demean that memory.

Ironic that you liberals do everything to shout down and impugn Christianity at every turn yet have no problem building an Islamic mosque at the very site 3,000 people were burned down in the name of "Islam."

" If Harry Truman had of said on November 4th, 1950, that "Pearl Harbor is sacred ground, but we must show respect for the Japanese Emperor and the people who follow him.", he'd probably have been impeached within six months. " - commenter from Exurban League blog

While the Muslims may have a 'right' to build their center on the property, they also may want to take into consideration the emotions of those directly impacted by 9/11. With "rights" come "responsibilities". IIRC, there wasn't a whole lot of public condemnation on the part of Muslim religious leaders when the extremists murdered 3,000 people. As a matter of fact, the silence was deafening. All we heard was the fear that Muslims would be attacked in the street. Their schools and mosques burned down. Which didn't happen. Now they're "upset" that New Yorkers would prefer they put their building elsewhere. Evidently the fact that New Yorkers are "upset" carries no significance.

The problem is that we have failed to officially declare war (by act of Congress) against the political-side of Islam. We are also failing to wage that war. This should include unlimited war against (i.e., demand their immediate unconditional surrender) all governments that either officially support Sharia law or that dare to call for our destruction and/or subjugation. If we did that, we would be in a much clearer legal situation regarding the building of this mosque. On the other hand, if we did that, the Islamists would already would know that their cause was lost and that the West was (finally) wide awake to the civilizational threat they pose.

Ooops! Guess this will come as a shock to some (Dane). Talk about your fast expiration date!

President Barack Obama on Saturday sought to defuse the controversy over his remarks on plans to build a mosque near Ground Zero, insisting that he wasn't endorsing the specific project but making a general plea for religious tolerance toward all. ...

"I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there," Obama continued. "I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding."

Wow! Barry's position is the ......same.....as mine. Go figure!

Did anybody really think Obama felt any differently?

Hes a liberal, its practically a point of honor for him to support anything that weakens our country.

Why does the commander-in-cheif seem to feel the need to stick his nose into every local issue? Especially the controversial ones? He's dividing America.

New logo on all Presidential vehicles, and
AF-1:

BABY ON BOARD!

The MSM has been issued defibrillators and
paddles as they follow Obama in the next few
weeks. A journalist MAY be able to resurrect
the messiah before he self-destructs....but
it's a moment-to-moment proposition. The
cardiac machinery has been underwitten
in the last "alien-Arizona" legislation.

I wanted to send our new President a hand-made
angel to put on his first WH Christmas tree.
But who could've known! I'm sending a felafel
taco, in platinum this year, for his "multi-
multi-religious, non-committal, secular,
non-Christian" observance of Christmas this
year. Maybe some of the elite press can tell
me if my gift made it to the appropriate
Islamic observance he will be attending
at yuletide in December.

Interesting . . . Obama backed down from his original statement, insisting he was not commenting on "the wisdom" of building the mosque there but only on religious freedom generally. Of course, that is not at all what he said.

Now the White House is insisting he is NOT backing down from the first statement, that his statement backing down from it merely "clarifies" his current working modified limited hangout position.

Well Jim, Barry is not backing down in the sense that he's, you know, "backing down". Barry fully supports property rights, except when they conflict with his desires and obligations to pay off supporters (just ask GM bond holders).

No conflicts at all.

Wonder how Dane feels, now that Barry is "backing off". Despite what you might hear from Baghdad Bobby Gibbs.

If we let them build a pilgrimage site, we better use it as bait to catch the crazy critters rather than as a beacon to our doom.