"...Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings."

Well, justice can be a pretty slippery word - just look at how our "justice" system operates. Have to allow that one.

Progress? not noticeable in the last 500 years or so. They did help to preserve some of the ancient world's learning during the Middle Ages, but that's not the same thing.

Tolerance? Did I miss something there?

Dignity? Come again?

I will admit that most Muslims simply want to get on with their lives and be left alone, but they aren't the ones in the driver's seat.

Are there hallucinogenics in the DC water supply? It would explain many things.

I believe he is a closet Muslim, perhaps even a radical one. No matter what he says. BTW, although he says his mother was an Atheist, she isn't around (nor was she when his book was published) to dispute that.

He'd never speak about America in such glowing terms.

Well, if you were a Muslim and you hated America then Obama's Ramadan message would make total sense.

The best way to prove the true strenght of American freedom and tolerance would be to allow the mosque near ground-zero to be built. This would send a message that unlike Saudi Arabia, Americans value tolerance. Freedom and justice will eventually conquer tyranny as it did during the Cold War.

"And here in the United States, Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country."

WTF? What contributions? Bringing the towers down and causing 3,000 deaths plus what? 6,000 or more in Iraq/ Afghanistan to date?

Could this incompetent bowing nincompoop get ant any more offensive to U.S.A. History?

My guess is a resounding YES!!

"And here in the United States, Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America"

Funny, I don't remember seeing any Muslim names on the Declaration of Independence.

I don't recall any of the Founding Fathers practicing Islam.

I can't even recall one Muslim Congressman or Senator until Keith Ellison.

Maybe I missed that part in the Constitution about stoning women for adultery, or executing homosexuals.

Oh well, I'm sure Kagan and Sotomayor will find those items tucked away somewhere.

"And here in the United States, Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America"

I would say that he is speaking of the Arab slave traders who were the origin of so many of our fellow citizens. If it were not for Islam, the slave ships would probably have had more difficulty finding their "cargo".

@ #5 John F -
The best way to prove the true strenght of American freedom and tolerance would be to allow the mosque near ground-zero to be built.

Really?
What's next, a Shinto shrine at the USS Arizona memorial?
A German cultural center at Treblinka?

A mosque at the scene one of the greatest crimes of the past century committed in the name of Islam is simply not appropriate.
The area of this country that I am from, a true result of American strength would be to NEVER permit a mosque to be built there. The Islamic bastards showed no tolerance in committing the act, it would be inappropriate to allow the mosque to be built within sight of Ground Zero.

For some 'tolerance' is a one-way street.

"This man is a farce."

No, he's a pandering clown.

Questions: Didn't Obama cancel the Christian Prayer Breakfast? Has he held a SEDER in the WH yet?
Let's see: Hates Israel (Da Joooos), praises Islam as tolerant, lies like a (prayer) rug. He's muslim!

#

Press Conference by President Bush and President Havel of Czech Republic
Prague Castle, Prague, Czech Republic
November 20, 2002
# "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan
The Oval Office, Washington, DC
November 13, 2002
# "We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. We share your belief in God's justice, and your insistence on man's moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves."

President Hosts Iftaar Dinner
Remarks by the President at Iftaar Dinner
State Dining Room
# "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
October 11, 2002
# "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
October 11, 2002
# "All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders
Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.
September 10, 2002
# "If liberty can blossom in the rocky soil of the West Bank and Gaza, it will inspire millions of men and women around the globe who are equally weary of poverty and oppression, equally entitled to the benefits of democratic government. I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements. And those values are alive in the Islamic world today. You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. Prosperity and freedom and dignity are not just American hopes, or Western hopes. They are universal, human hopes. And even in the violence and turmoil of the Middle East, America believes those hopes have the power to transform lives and nations."

President George W. Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden, Washington, D.C.
June 24, 2002
# "When it comes to the common rights and needs of men and women, there is no clash of civilizations. The requirements of freedom apply fully to Africa and Latin America and the entire Islamic world. The peoples of the Islamic nations want and deserve the same freedoms and opportunities as people in every nation. And their governments should listen to their hopes."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush at the 2002 Graduation Exercise of the United States Military Academy
West Point, New York
June 1, 2002
# "America rejects bigotry. We reject every act of hatred against people of Arab background or Muslim faith America values and welcomes peaceful people of all faiths -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu and many others. Every faith is practiced and protected here, because we are one country. Every immigrant can be fully and equally American because we're one country. Race and color should not divide us, because America is one country."

President George W. Bush Promotes Compassionate Conservatism
Parkside Hall, San Jose, California
April 30, 2002
# "We're taking action against evil people. Because this great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil. This is clearly a case of good versus evil, and make no mistake about it -- good will prevail."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush at a Town Hall Meeting with Citizens of Ontario
Ontario Convention Center, Ontario, California
January 5, 2002
# "Eid is a time of joy, after a season of fasting and prayer and reflection. Each year, the end of Ramadan means celebration and thanksgiving for millions of Americans. And your joy during this season enriches the life of our great country. This year, Eid is celebrated at the same time as Hanukkah and Advent. So it's a good time for people of these great faiths, Islam, Judaism and Christianity, to remember how much we have in common: devotion to family, a commitment to care for those in need, a belief in God and His justice, and the hope for peace on earth."

Remarks by the President in Honor of Eid Al-Fitr
The Diplomatic Reception Room
December 17, 2001
# "The teachings of many faiths share much in common. And people of many faiths are united in our commitments to love our families, to protect our children, and to build a more peaceful world. In the coming year, let us resolve to seize opportunities to work together in a spirit of friendship and cooperation. Through our combined efforts, we can end terrorism and rid our civilization of the damaging effects of hatred and intolerance, ultimately achieving a brighter future for all."

President's Message for Eid al-Fitr
December 13, 2001
# "According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush At Iftaar Dinner
The State Dining Room, Washington, D.C.
November 19, 2001
# "The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan
November 15, 2001
# "This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims."

President George W. Bush Addresses the Nation
World Congress Center, Atlanta, Georgia
November 8, 2001
# "All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."

Remarks by President George W. Bush to the Warsaw Conference on Combating Terrorism
November 6, 2001
# "I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."

Remarks by President George W. Bush and His Majesty King Abdullah of Jordan
The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
September 28, 2001
# "Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."

President George W. Bush Remarks by the President to Airline Employees
O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois
September 27, 2001

"The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."

President George W. Bush's Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
United States Capitol, Washington, D.C.
September 20, 2001
# "I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."

Remarks by President George W. Bush and President Megawati of Indonesia
The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
September 19, 2001
# "The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
Washington, D.C.
September 17, 2001

and

George W. Bush

"Islam is Peace"

17 September 2001, Islamic Center, Washington, D.C.

Thank you all very much for your hospitality. We've just had a -- wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand. Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks. And so were Muslims all across the world. Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.

These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that. The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war. When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race. America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.

Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes. Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America. That's not the America I know. That's not the America I value. I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America. Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior.

This is a great country. It's a great country because we share the same values of respect and dignity and human worth. And it is my honor to be meeting with leaders who feel just the same way I do. They're outraged, they're sad. They love America just as much as I do. I want to thank you all for giving me a chance to come by. And may God bless us all.

Once again, Dane completely misses the point. Come on Dane, fess up, you're really Lee Ward, right?

I remember how the Muslims sailed across the Atlantic on the Jihadflower searching for religious freedom... so they could kill it.

Islam has always been part of America

And yes, Dane, GWB coined the phrase "Religion of Peace" so many of us have enjoyed mocking the past eight years. What is your point, exactly?

What will people like Dane do when GWB isn't President anymore?

Did he issue a statement at Christmas and Yon Kippur ?

Your so Dane, you probably think this thread is about you!

Dane,

George Bush was wrong when he said it, that doesn't make it right when Obama says it.

Unless you are implying that whatever George Bush did/said was right and set the example for Obama?

Sad sack of Shite! Perhaps the only way to win this war is to drive Muslims off of Islam the same way they embraced it,by the point of the sword. Begin by reminding them how and why their ancestors embraced it to begin with.

"The best way to prove the true strenght of American freedom and tolerance would be to allow the mosque near ground-zero to be built. This would send a message that unlike Saudi Arabia, Americans value tolerance."

No it wouldn't. It would show the world that the pussification of America is nearly complete.

No other religion that I know of would build a Temple, or anything else for that matter, where it would offend so many people.

But let's over look that and play the bigot, racist, intolerant card instead.

BS

Well, the first people whose asses we kicked (after the Brits) were Muslims in North Africa...

you see the reason Dane is confused is because the left really does believe that we on the right are mindless robots ...

He assumes that if GWB said it then we will fall into line and agree, just like he does with anything Obama says ...

you see Dane we actually think for ourselves and don't look to politicians to tell us what to think ...

you should try it ...

I'm always amused at leftards who believe conservatives are mindless worshipers of Bush II the way they are toward their "like God" Obamessiah.For your info , we had a lot of issues with W, among which were his mindless parroting of the meme the Islam is a "religion of peace".

You gotta be shittin' me? Islam, always a part of America? What planet does this idiot come from? Anyone who believes his lies is an asshole. I can't wait until November. I hope and pray that Patriots take back the Senate and the House and put through an Article of Impeachment on this Radical Islamic mutton head we have for president. He doesn't deserve any respect, regardless of his position. Anyone who agrees with Obama can leave the country as far as I am concerned. What a waste of flesh!!

"Islam has always been America"...absof**kenlutly
Sombody needs to talk to this guy.

Hi Jolly was a camel driver, long time ago He followed Mr. Beale way out west Didn't mind the burning sand in that God-forsaken land But he didn't mind the pretty gals the best

Hi Jolly, hey Jolly, twenty miles a day, by golly
Twenty more before the morning light
Hi Jolly, hey, I gotta get on my way
I told my gal I'd be home Sunday night

There's pretty girls in Albuquerque, 'least that's what I've heard
There's pretty gals in Tumcumcari too
Now honey, I ain't blind, but I don't pay them any mind
'Cause I'm savin' all my lovin' just for you

Hi Jolly, hey Jolly, twenty miles a day, by golly
Twenty more before the morning light
Hi Jolly, hey, I gotta get on my way
I told my gal I'd be home Sunday night

Old timers down in Arizona tell you that it's true
That you can see Hi Jolly's ghost a-ridin' still
When the desert moon is bright, he comes ridin' into sight
Drivin' four and twenty camels over the hill

Hi Jolly, hey Jolly, twenty miles a day, by golly
Twenty more before the mornin' light
Hi Jolly, hey, I gotta get on my way
I told my gal I'd be home Sunday night

The above folk song is about a camel driver named Hadji Ali who became a living legend in the west during the 1800's. If you travel to Arizona and visit the Quartzsite Cemetery there is a monument to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Jolly

Congrats, Tina S.
You found a reference to ONE Muslim in the American West in the 1800s.

Unfortunately, I do not think it proves that "Islam has always been part of America..."
nor
"... that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country."

Actually, I do believe Islam has been a part of America for many years - as an enemy.
9/11 just one of the many examples of this, as is the 1993 WTC bombing. And let us not forget the Barbary pirates.

Geez, what next from this mindless idiot in the WH? Rewriting history by saying it over and over? I have a degree in History including world and American; no where can I remember even spending any time on Muslims. BTW, idiot is a closet Muslim and an Indonesian citizen to boot. Wait...until this all finally comes out and Mr. Obama is really Mr. Davis reincarnated.

WARNING: Unwarrated spam in post 12

The Fight against Radical ISLAM has long History in the USA.

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once. [2] [3]

We been fighting the Jihad since the 1800's .

From the Halls of Montezuma,
To the shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.

The only question is when did Islam become radical?
In 1785?

Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country.

To quote the great Joe Wilson.

YOU LIE!!!!

Congrats, Tina S.
You found a reference to ONE Muslim in the American West in the 1800s.

Obama should make December 16 (Hadji Ali's birthday) "National Hi Jolly Day" ;)

Too funny. On the list of major contributions by Muslim-Americans in our history, we have a camel-driver from the old West who was never known to behead a customer. Great!

Surely, we wouldn't be here today without him . . . [/rolleyes]

In the small quote from Barry's happy message he seems to stray from his usual obfuscation and wanders into the not unknown land, to him, of outright lies.