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Screw Him

A while ago, I registered at Daily Kos to properly engage this one Kossack who had decided to take me on. I got tired of his cheap-shotting, so I figured I'd take the fight to him.

It wasn't pretty. Every now and then I still pop back there, and I've got a solid record of shutting down the "discussions" when I smack him and his sycophants around.

Anyway, I'm a registered "Kossack." (Hangs head in shame.) I've never actually posted anything to my "diary" over there, but it does exist. It's one of the "benefits" of being a member.

Along with getting spammed by the head asshole himself.

Markos "Screw Them" Moulitsas has a new crusade out. He wants the Senate to end the filibuster rule, allowing a simple majority to dominate -- as is in the House.

Here's his first call to action, properly Fisked:

Jay Tea,

Welcome to the Daily Kos action email list. You received this email either because you are a registered member of the Daily Kos community, or because you donated to a Daily Kos operated Act Blue page. To unsubscribe from this list, click here.

Translation: you idiot, once you gave us your e-mail, we own it. Expect to get spammed, harassed, and even sold unless you ask nicely. And no, we didn't warn you when you signed up, or gave you a chance to opt out first. "You fucked up. You trusted us."

Today we're launching a campaign to end the filibuster. Join this campaign by clicking the link below and signing the petition that appears:

Ending the filibuster starts here!

Because online petitions mean so, so much.

Here's how signing the petition makes a difference.

We'll deliver the petition to every Democratic nominee for Senate and every returning Democratic Senator. When we do, we'll get them on record about whether they agree that the rules of the Senate can, and should, be changed with a simple majority vote on the first day of Congress next year.

Let's see. I wonder if Senator Ned Lamont will go along with this. Oh, yeah, Lamont was the guy who Kos threw his whole weight behind, and he got his ass kicked. Until Obama, Kos had a nearly perfect record of backing losers.

Once 51 returning and potential Senators have come out in support, we'll have proven that changing Senate rules is possible with a simple majority vote.

It doesn't need proving, you moron. It's written into the Senate rules already.

Sign the petition, prove change is possible! Entrenched power players like Joe Lieberman, Max Baucus, Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu have all depended on the filibuster to enable Republican obstructionism and water down progressive legislation. Corporate interests have used it to protect themselves by purchasing a few small state Senators on the cheap.

There's no such thing as a "cheap" Senator. Senate seats are very, very expensive. And you want "entrenched?" Let's add a few more to that list. Kennedy and Byrd left feet-first. Boxer, Feinstein, Kerry, Inouye, Harkin, Mikulski, Rockefeller, Sanders, Schumer -- they ain't leaving willingly, either.

And if that isn't a nice skimming of some of the most wealthy and most corrupt members of the Senate, I'll eat my hat.

There's no bigger decision Senate Democrats will make next year. The Senate is where good legislation goes to die. Democrats can either change a system that allows a tiny unaccountable minority to thwart the will of the country, or they can continue being part of the problem.

It's also where bad legislation goes to die.

You have received this email through your subscription to Daily Kos's email list. If you did not subscribe, or would no longer like to receive email updates you can unsubscribe here.

See? You're subscribed, even if you didn't subscribe. Enjoy it. But if you're an ungrateful wretch, we'll let you off the hook if you jump through our hoops.

But the biggest problem with Kos' grand plan (apart from getting the Powers That Be to take him seriously -- which alone is a crippling challenge) is that it's built on an assumption that is tremendously dangerous for his side.

And that is that the Democrats will hold at least 50 seats after November.

What's amazing is the underlying whining beneath this "call to action." The Democrats took both Houses in 2006. In 2008, they not only increased their hold, but took the White House. Since January 2009, they've held a greater majority than President Bush ever enjoyed.

And yet that still isn't enough for them. They still have to whine and piss and moan and find new ways to "Blame Bush" for all their problems and failures.

Guess what, Dems? Those failures are yours, and yours alone.

And if you change the rules, they're changed. I can think of quite a few Republicans who drool at the thought of having that kind of unchallenged power you want to grant the majority.

There's a part of me that would dearly love to see Kos react should the Democrats lose the Senate. Watching him backpedal and erase his work here would be priceless. Especially since there would be a bunch of hard copies floating around.

But I LIKE the current system. I LIKE that it preserves the rights of the minority to, on occasion, force the majority to actually recognize their existence.

If the Democrats, when they were in the minority, simply lacked the cohesion and testicular fortitude to avail themselves of the power they held, that's their problem.

And it's always pathetic when one side decides that the reason they keep losing is the rules. One would think they'd notice that the rules didn't change when they swapped sides, but that would require a sense of self-awareness they sorely lack.

But keep up the petition, Kos. It's tremendously entertaining.


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Comments (19)

You're right. Moulitsas is... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

You're right. Moulitsas is evidently too fucking stupid to remember the "Senatorial Succession" problem they had (of their own making) in dear old Massachusetts. But hypocrisy has never bothered Moulitsas or the legislators in Mass.

More popcorn.

Just tell Marxkos to kiss a... (Below threshold)
914:

Just tell Marxkos to kiss ass and then change your e-mail address.

Going back the Republican m... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Going back the Republican majority for a bit. We all know that 0 and his supporters would like to have another chance to put a commie judge on the bench of the Supreme Court. Wonder what they will do when 0 nominates a person to the courts and the Republican majority in the Senate votes no? Will we have the libs sitting down in the streets gnashing of their teeth and the pulling hair out of their heads? Quite possibly. Those would be just the idiots in the State Controlled Media. That would be a sight to behold.

Every time the D's have a m... (Below threshold)
alanstorm:

Every time the D's have a majority, the filibuster is an evil tool of entrenched corporate shills.

Miraculously, it is transformed into the savior of the downtrodden and powerless against those same entrenched corporate shills when they're the minority.

Surely such magical rules must be maintained!

Seriously, I expect politicians to go with the wind a little bit - it's almost a requirement - but the brazen 180-degree turns currently taking place must be making some members dizzy.

Which would go a long way towards explaining their legislative output.

His record of backing loser... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

His record of backing losers is still unbroken, IMO

Just imagine the reaction i... (Below threshold)

Just imagine the reaction if you actualy posted a "diary entry" on his site. You would probably be unsubscribed so fast that you wouldn't have to jump through any hoops.

This will be interesting to... (Below threshold)
Meiji_man:

This will be interesting to watch.
Are they going to continue to push for this after the Dems lose the Senate in November?

Let this go into effect and... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Let this go into effect and watch him send out another letter pleading the senators to change the rules back after Nov once the dems have lost their rears.

You never see this stuff from the left when Republicans control congress.

It is just like the move to... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

It is just like the move to eliminate the electoral college so all presidential campaigns will be waged in New York and Califonia. Screw the rest of the country.

The dem's just keep handing us the next election. Thanks KOS. ww

If they want to change the ... (Below threshold)
Trump:

If they want to change the rules, let them do it.

Because at some point very soon the GOP will regain power.

And our first move will be to repeal all of this.

And our next move will be to legislate the Dems out of existance.

And legislate the unions into illegality

And legislate tort reform

Tax decreases

Defund NPR and PBS and the NEA

Legislate in any abortion law we want

Drill baby drill!

And all sorts of other goodies. Maybe even impeachment.

So lets roll with it.

The Senate filibuster rule ... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

The Senate filibuster rule does need to be changed.

We should go back to requiring 2/3 to shut down a filibuster. The Senate's job is stopping foolishness put forth by the House.

There is an old story (probably apocryphal, since Jefferson was in France for most of the period before and after the Second Constitutional Convention) that has Jefferson asking Washington what purpose the Senate could serve.

Washington supposedly replied, "For the same reason I stir sugar in my coffee: to cool it. And so, we need the Senate."

Aside, for many years I thought this meant Washington was addled - not because of the Senate, but because he used sugar to cool his coffee instead of to sweeten it! As it turns out, the etiquette of the times made it rude to just stir a spoon in coffee or to blow on it, so people went through the charade of dipping their spoon in the sugar bowl first. You didn't even have to take any sugar, it was all for appearance's sake.

[/historical trivia]

AMen to the 67 vote fillibu... (Below threshold)
Ryan:

AMen to the 67 vote fillibuster. It shoudl eb set high enough that one party legislating is simply not possible. Stop.

67 would definitely have st... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

67 would definitely have stopped a certain farce called ObamaCare.

http://jan.ocregister.com/2010/08/18/most-firms-wont-get-health-reform-tax-break/43521/

Then they wonder with a perfectly straight face why businesses aren't growing.

If they want to change the ... (Below threshold)
Jeff L:

If they want to change the rules, let them do it.

Because at some point very soon the GOP will regain power.

And our first move will be to repeal all of this.

And our next move will be to legislate the Dems out of existance.

And legislate the unions into illegality

And legislate tort reform

Tax decreases

Defund NPR and PBS and the NEA

Legislate in any abortion law we want

Drill baby drill!

And all sorts of other goodies. Maybe even impeachment.

So lets roll with it.

You funny.....tell me another story daddy.

along with the 67 votes to ... (Below threshold)
Brian The Adequate:

along with the 67 votes to break the filibuster it should also return to the original filibuster.

That is make the Senators actually talk continuously, with a quorum in the chamber. No more of this silly BS of just a closure vote. Make them actually filibuster.

I suspect the dumb shit Kos... (Below threshold)
John S:

I suspect the dumb shit Kos will change his mind in January when there are 52 Republicans in the Senate. But imagine the possibilities: Obama needing to veto two or three Obamacare repeals each and every week from now until 2012.

Its the economy stupid! I ... (Below threshold)
914:

Its the economy stupid! I mean Markos.

Barry's Hamosque gaffe spreading like the black plague and his approval's on the economy are at parity with his job IQ 35%

Maybe Kos would also be in ... (Below threshold)
DSkinner:

Maybe Kos would also be in favor of repealing the 17th amendment so the states are once again represented at the federal level.

You people have short memor... (Below threshold)
john:

You people have short memories. Go look up "nuclear option", and then try complaining about the Democrats threatening to change the rules to get their way.

And it's always pathetic when one side decides that the reason they keep losing is the rules. One would think they'd notice that the rules didn't change when they swapped sides, but that would require a sense of self-awareness they sorely lack.

I thought the same thing about the nuclear option Republicans.

Though I also agree that filibusters should go back to requiring one to speak continuously, rather than the whole cloture facade. And I also thought that when the Republicans were in power.




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