Aren't you glad he's a moderate Muslim:
"If we move from that location, the story will be the radicals have taken over the discourse, the headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack. Our national security now hinges on how we negotiate this, how we speak about it. The battlefront is between moderates of all sides... and the radicals on all sides," he said.
Moving the project to another location would strengthen Islamist radicals' ability to recruit followers and will likely increase violence against Americans, the imam said.
Video and more at the link.



Comments (41)
Isn't that a bit like worry... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Roy | September 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Isn't that a bit like worrying about upseting Charlie Manson and making him even crazier?
1. Posted by Roy | September 9, 2010 12:01 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:01
2. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 12:11 PM | Score: -1 (15 votes cast)
Wow. They'll really hate us if we don't build the mosque, or build it somewhere else?
So much for Mr. Compassionate Friendly All-Inclusive Bridge-Builder.
Hey, maybe there's some secret gold reserve buried under the building, and they'll have to tunnel directly down through the basement to get to it...
2. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 12:11 PM |
Score: -1 (15 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:11
3. Posted by JLawson | September 9, 2010 12:13 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Sorry about that - I posted the above and was still channeling Dane.
3. Posted by JLawson | September 9, 2010 12:13 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:13
4. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
See how the frontman operates? A supposed moderate muslim with a soft demeanor and timid voice gently threatens us by fearmongering to get thier foot in the door.
Screw you Faisal! As you screwjobs like to say "its holy ground".
4. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 12:29 PM |
Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:29
5. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
OOPS!!
#4 Didn't know you had it in you Dane?
5. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 12:31 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:31
6. Posted by dane | September 9, 2010 12:44 PM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
Ron Paul 2012
6. Posted by dane | September 9, 2010 12:44 PM |
Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:44
7. Posted by Wayne | September 9, 2010 12:47 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
What cracks me up is Obama said "that Muslims have the right to build a mosque near New York's ground zero". However "the White House had asserted that it did not want to get involved in local decision-making" so they would not comment on the appropriateness of it.
However they take the opposite approach to the book burning. Why didn't he say they had a right to do so and why did they comment on the appropriateness of it even though it is a local issue?
He is not the only one being expose of having a double standard.
7. Posted by Wayne | September 9, 2010 12:47 PM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:47
8. Posted by WildWillie | September 9, 2010 12:51 PM | Score: 5 (11 votes cast)
Sounds like a threat to me. How does he come by his knowledge? And how can 72% of americans be radical? How can he make that claim and not be challenged? I really didn't have a firm opinion of this guy one way or the other, but now I think his plan is something other then what is presented. It is a victory trophy. This is why some pastors are burning Koran's. ww
8. Posted by WildWillie | September 9, 2010 12:51 PM |
Score: 5 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:51
9. Posted by DEnisej | September 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
I would love for someone to ask that imam what isn't going to "recruit" new members.
9. Posted by DEnisej | September 9, 2010 12:53 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 12:53
10. Posted by Hank | September 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Incredible.
Now he's leveling threats. "Moving the project to another location ...will likely increase violence against Americans, the imam said.
10. Posted by Hank | September 9, 2010 1:03 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:03
11. Posted by mag | September 9, 2010 1:11 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
I agree, sounds like a threat to me. So what to do??? Kow-tow to them more or tell the whole bunch of muslims and supporters alike to go straight to hell???
My tolerance is just about gone right about now.
11. Posted by mag | September 9, 2010 1:11 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:11
12. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 1:11 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
So build my recruitment center next to ground zero and you stave off violent jihadism til a later date?
Sounds like a win win if your a 12th century barbarian.
Shouldn't he be arrested for terroristic threats?
12. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 1:11 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:11
13. Posted by firefirefire | September 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
"We Gotta Build The Mosque At Ground Zero, Otherwise, Islamists Will Get Violent"
Oops..too late!
13. Posted by firefirefire | September 9, 2010 1:14 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:14
14. Posted by DaveD | September 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I agree with those above. Enough push back and the result is that we finally get a hint of what we expected all along. The location is indeed important and it is even accompanied by a "veiled" threat.
14. Posted by DaveD | September 9, 2010 1:18 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:18
15. Posted by Snirk | September 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
and Wade Phillips 4,502
The world's longest video football game continues
15. Posted by Snirk | September 9, 2010 1:34 PM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:34
16. Posted by GarandFan | September 9, 2010 1:35 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Go ahead. Get "violent". Not like you're not showing your true colors. Just showing how "compassionate" you are. How "understanding" you are. What great "bridge builders" you are.
Don't have to look far to see how 'compromise' works out with them. Just look at Britain.
16. Posted by GarandFan | September 9, 2010 1:35 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:35
17. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 1:37 PM | Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
Death to all sockpuppets and Sarah Palin in 2012!!
Woo Hoo!
17. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 1:37 PM |
Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:37
18. Posted by Michael | September 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Never going to be built in that location.
18. Posted by Michael | September 9, 2010 1:43 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:43
19. Posted by dane | September 9, 2010 1:46 PM | Score: -8 (16 votes cast)
Nice to know I'm residing squarely in wizbangs collective head.
Wow, it's roomy in here.
How ya doin', DJ?
Dane - 2
Wizbang - 0
19. Posted by dane | September 9, 2010 1:46 PM |
Score: -8 (16 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:46
20. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Hey Dane!
How'd you like my impersonation of you? I tried to use " Nutwing bigots" with the same ferver you do. F-A+
Guess what Dane, sarahs coming to the party in 2012' .... Mambo anyone?
20. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 1:57 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 13:57
21. Posted by Jeff | September 9, 2010 2:06 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
seems like Islam is alot like horse medicine ...
Don't let us build our mosque ... we'll kill 'ya
Burn the Koran ... we'll kill 'ya
Renounce Islam ... we'll kill 'ya
Everything is a nail and all they have is the we'll kill 'ya hammer ...
21. Posted by Jeff | September 9, 2010 2:06 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 14:06
22. Posted by sarahconnor2 | September 9, 2010 2:33 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
At this point my attitude is They're saying we have to do what they want or they'll get violent. Hmmm...Surrender or fight....I think I'll go with fight.
22. Posted by sarahconnor2 | September 9, 2010 2:33 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 14:33
23. Posted by John S | September 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Sounds like Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf needs a permanent vacation in Cuba. Perhaps a lovely cell by beautiful Guantanamo Bay.
23. Posted by John S | September 9, 2010 3:05 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 15:05
24. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
For a birdseye view of what the religion of peace is really about watch the reaction already and magnify it x 100 times. They are like killer bees riled up.
Attention Holder! Calling Eric Holder! Send in the ATF now. Before its too late.
This may be Obamas waco. The 2 day version.
24. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 3:14 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 15:14
25. Posted by GarandFan | September 9, 2010 3:36 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Rauf shoots his mouth off real well for someone who doesn't have the funding. And if he gets that, he's still going to have to find a construction company in New York to do the work.
Right now this is all theater.
25. Posted by GarandFan | September 9, 2010 3:36 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 15:36
26. Posted by Don L | September 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
The mosque is but bait(recruitment) designed to get a reaction that will excuse whatever the irrational behavior of the offended ones turns out to be. They continue to play us like a ruptured fiddle and we do little more than turn up the volume.
26. Posted by Don L | September 9, 2010 3:49 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 15:49
27. Posted by the Dane of your Existence | September 9, 2010 4:53 PM | Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
It's just a building, people. Why don't you all get a life and worry about things that need worrying about?
27. Posted by the Dane of your Existence | September 9, 2010 4:53 PM |
Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 16:53
28. Posted by WildWillie | September 9, 2010 4:56 PM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
The "peaceful" religion of Islam is not looking as such. It is intolerant. Sexist. Uncompassionate. Violent. Political. Yet the MSM seems to not ever challenge their beliefs. No wonder people find it necessary to demonstrate how intolerant they are by being intolerant. I am watching Florida Saturday. One little pastor of a 50 people congregation is going to show just how peaceful and tolerant Islam is. ww
28. Posted by WildWillie | September 9, 2010 4:56 PM |
Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 16:56
29. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 5:12 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
"It's just a building, people. Why don't you all get a life and worry about things that need worrying about?
27. Posted by the Dane of your Existence | September 9, 2010 4:53 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes"
Are you the same blithering useful idiot Dane that was the topic on another thread this morning?
Why dont you get a life and not worry about what we worry about.
29. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 5:12 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 17:12
30. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2010 6:01 PM | Score: -5 (11 votes cast)
This whole incongrous one sided debate, which recalls what George Bush said and later regretted, "bring them on" or "Americans don't torture" except when they do.
Or as Rick said yesterday, "I`m a fiscal conservative for smaller government", except for the Pentagon. Now it is the Cordoba Initative and the inevitable exceptions.
Palin: "No one is disputing that America stands for - and should stand for - religious tolerance,"
Of course, the official Palin/wizbang conservative position should be "we are tolerant of religion" just not here in America, or except when we are intolerant.
No Kantian imperative on Wizbang. Must be lovely to have 'principles' that don't get in the way of your prejudices.
30. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2010 6:01 PM |
Score: -5 (11 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 18:01
31. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 6:27 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
"Of course, the official Palin/wizbang conservative position should be "we are tolerant of religion" just not here in America, or except when we are intolerant."
I cant speak for others but I am not tolerant of a murderous cult placing a victory mosque adjascent to the trade centers. I do not call that "religion". More like "we won".
As has been noted, Faisal Assad has another mosque down the street for 20+ years.. He can do his "bridge building" at THAT LOCATION.
31. Posted by 914 | September 9, 2010 6:27 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 18:27
32. Posted by Drago | September 9, 2010 6:30 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Steve Crickmore and the left take time out from funding Virgin Mary images smeared with elephant dung, immersing crucifixes in urine (with tax-payer dollars), having members of act-up disrupt actual Christian worship services, and innumerable acts of religious intolerance and bigotry to suddenly rant about their newly discovered concept of "religious sensitivity" and, whadya know, it's in defense of the most intolerant religion on the face of the earth.
And then li'l stevie dares to lecture others on "prejudices that don't get in the way of your principles".
BTW, when was the last big anti-war rally? I didn't see it in the news. There must have been one of course, since the left never allows it's "prejudices to get in the way of it's principles".....
32. Posted by Drago | September 9, 2010 6:30 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 18:30
33. Posted by WildWillie | September 9, 2010 6:39 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
I know Drago. Getting a lecture on morality from a liberal is like having a lion lecture on the benefits of being a vegetarian. Non existant. ww
33. Posted by WildWillie | September 9, 2010 6:39 PM |
Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 18:39
34. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 6:55 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
"More like 'we won'." 914
We won, that sounds so familiar to me. Where have I heard that before?
Oh, yeah. I recall now......
34. Posted by Dane | September 9, 2010 6:55 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 18:55
35. Posted by Upset Old Guy | September 9, 2010 6:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sorry, forgot to put my sock-puppets back on my feet.
35. Posted by Upset Old Guy | September 9, 2010 6:57 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 18:57
36. Posted by Gaius Piconius | September 9, 2010 7:56 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
"Moving the project.... will only provoke more violence against Americans"
.....(And like 9/11, Americans will only have themselves to blame!)........
What a wretched priest! What a wretched (Arab) culture! Be thankful that only the religion
of the Musselman,(archaic, but non-the-less valid), comports itself with such consistent
wretchedness. Islam is, quite clearly, totally out of step with Mankind. Its strengths are its self serving nature, its obfuscation and its unabashed duplicity....Born among Arabs, spread by the sword and having no association at all with a God in paradise. No other faith in this world is so hate filled or so blighted...so completely given over to bloodlust. Islam is an invention purely of men. Evil men! And it was thus at its beginning and is, even so, today.
My heartfelt blessing on all other religions on Earth; particulary you jews because you benefit all Mankind so richly, so consistently.
There! My passion has spent itself. And I; a mild-mannered, former long-service Centurion of Canadian infantry. I think I shall quickly slip back into a ladies frock and go squat in the bottom of a dark closet to recover my modesty. I could meet the friend of the imam there you know...'Ebonicus Rex'...who does his clearest thinking in a closet like mine. But my wife's frocks are much prettier than any of Michelle's! A bit to big in the arse methinks. (Or should I have used the ebonical, 'booty'?)
36. Posted by Gaius Piconius | September 9, 2010 7:56 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 19:56
37. Posted by Gaius Piconius | September 9, 2010 8:05 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Oh! And a thought from the closet... If you ever meet a good and modest muslim, consider having him put down before he goes bad.
37. Posted by Gaius Piconius | September 9, 2010 8:05 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 20:05
38. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2010 10:32 PM | Score: -4 (6 votes cast)
914:victory church... murderous cult.
kind of answers my question. I have made a few longish visits to muslim Africa and what saves the people, in my opinion from their poverty is their religion, otherwise they might be totally lawless and broken. We need to work with what we have. Honor killings, stonings are abominable but the alternative would be almost nilhism in that part of the underdeveloped world, "the grand inquisitor" justification for religion.
Yes, I think there is prejudice to the American Imam. Perhaps, if he didn`t pronounce controversy, contraversy, the British way, pure wool, white Americans would be more in his corner?
But if Muhammad Ali, a conscientious objector to the Vietnam war, could be chosen as "The Sportsman of the Century" and be the popular choice to light the Olympic flame at the opening ceremony for the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, we would should be able to accept a inter-faith centre near Ground Zero, led by Imam Rauf who has been a banner carrier by two successive administrations for international peace. Maybe the Iman could call it the Muhammad Ali, Olympic youth centre, with an appropriate ribbon-cutting ceremony and the public would be placated?
38. Posted by Steve Crickmore | September 9, 2010 10:32 PM |
Score: -4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 9, 2010 22:32
39. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | September 10, 2010 1:24 AM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
I would let that Imam know, in no uncertain terms if we are attacked again we will destroy the nation of origin. Muslims understand, at a very basic level, brute force. Most of them live in nations ruled by brute force. They kill 1000 of us we kill 10,000,000 of them. They would get the message really soon.
39. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | September 10, 2010 1:24 AM |
Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 10, 2010 01:24
40. Posted by stewart | September 10, 2010 12:45 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
This is the same tactic this Bully religion has used in Germany, Denmark, and other European countries. Screw them and their Bull crap, Holier than thou religion.
40. Posted by stewart | September 10, 2010 12:45 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on September 10, 2010 12:45
41. Posted by Jay Guevara | September 10, 2010 4:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bring it, bitches.
You can ask your confreres in Durka Durkastan how we roll.
41. Posted by Jay Guevara | September 10, 2010 4:39 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on September 10, 2010 16:39