Forgot to close that tag, Jay Tea..

Sigh... got it already, chef. Thanks, though...

J.

catholicism was for a while, just as bad. Professing to be about peace while crusading into the middle east. The difference is cristians have learned from the past and past mistakes. I doubt anyone here including the trolls honestly believs that the pope could call for another crusade or holy war and actually get much in the way of troops. Christians still habe their nutjobs but by and large we don't subscribe to mob think.

Islam on the otherhand teaches violence as a core part of the religion. Individually most muslims ARE peaceful I'm sure, but they have been trained from birth to mob think and follow orders from their holy people.

islam truly is the religion of peace...as long as you are muslim or ready to convert.

JustRuss,

Catholicism was NEVER that bad.

The crusades were waged to take back territory from the muslims who invaded that territory.

Would not be surprised to see Holder pursue this vigorously as a hate crime..

By the cartoonist that is.

I am so tired of having Christians painted with the "they were just as bad" brush.
The actual religion and its tenets are NOT and never have been that bad.
The actual tenets of Islam ARE that bad and always have been.

Nah, Holder's got other things more important to ignore right now............

http://biggovernment.com/capitolconfidential/2010/09/15/shock-audio-facing-obligations-from-leadership-democrat-house-member-puts-the-squeeze-on-lobbyist/

"The Religion of Peace" is really beginning to wear on a lot of people. The "Islamaphobia" crowd isn't making as much noise.

I guess these would OK:

Draw a woman being stoned
Draw a mosque being bombed
Draw a teen girl's mutilated genitals
Draw a decapitated infidel
Draw a suicide bomber with dead Israelis
Draw a picture of children with automatic weapons

Religion of Pieces is more like it....after..

muslim terrorists blow up a plane.
muslim terrorists blow up a car in a shopping center.
muslim terrorists shoot up an Army base.
muslim terrorists bomb a train.
muslim terrorists cut off peoples heads.
muslim terrorists set off road side bombs.
muslim terrorists hijack planes and fly them into buildings.

I could go on ad nauseam.

It's not a religion of peace in ANY sense of the word. It's a hateful and violent ideology that is inherently incompatible with American Freedom and Culture.

It is so the religion of peace... the kind you rest in after they kill you.

I suddenly have this uncontrollable desire to eat pork chops that have been grilled over an open fire.

Can I name the pig Mohamed?

Van Helsing over at Moonbattery says it best.

Bullies are not appeased by submission; they are inspired by it.

Everytime these "Allah Fearing" muslims burn church's, stone women, behead people, blow up stuff, we are always told to not brush the whole faith because of just a "few" whacko's. If you add up these "few" cases, it is much more then few. I do not call Islam a religion of peace. It is one of hate and superiority. After all, if you do not believe like they do, or covert to muslim, you are an infidel and deserve to die. And the bonus is the person that kill's you goes to paradise as a reward from Allah. No, that is not faith. That is like a very bad motorcycle club. Of Mafia. ww

@14
+1000!

Hey WW, that is an insult to bikers and the mafia.

Islam is the Religion of Death.

"I guess these would OK:

Draw a woman being stoned
Draw a mosque being bombed
Draw a teen girl's mutilated genitals
Draw a decapitated infidel
Draw a suicide bomber with dead Israelis
Draw a picture of children with automatic weapons"

Yeah, those kind of funnies would be a blast in the mideast or indonesia

If I were Molly, I'd issue my own fatwa: Come near me, you Islamofascist d-bag, and I'll put a Mt. St. Helens' sized hole in you courtesy of my .357. And I won't even blink.

The problem is is that Islam has just enough followers that believe in peace to skew most peoples perceptions. It is hard to keep saying that the violence is only a few extremists when the violence seems to be widespread across the various Islamic ideologies and willing to flare at little or no provocation. The fact that often it seems that the extremists are encoruaged by the "moderates" doesn't seem to help matters.

Personally I believe the "moderates" aren't afreaid to speak out, they are just waiting to see if the extremists are ultimately succesful and provide them tacit support at a minimum.

Obviously they can't all be terrorists; you need a lot of farmers, shopkeepers, doctors, etc. etc. in order to have some semblance of a functional society. The homefront, if you will.

Nice to know that when radical Adherents Of The Religion Of Peace(tm) plan to kill Americans for violating the laws of Islam, the official government policy is "don't piss off the crazy dangerous people."

You gotta problem with that?

Doesn't it make perfect sense to "not piss off the crazy people?"

Everyone understands that radical Islamists are out of control bat-shit crazy.

My question is - why do bat-shit crazy Christians insist on fanning the hatred of Muslims - extremist or not?

Yes, a handful of them attacked us on 9/11.

Yes, our government has done a less than stellar job of bringing those responsible to trial.

But if some Islamists are going to act like unwashed, unthinking heathens - why are some Christians choosing to act the same way?

You'd think that Christians would choose the higher ground and not stoo to that level.

You'd think...

But then again - some don't think - they just hate - and let that hatred drive their actions.

Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin, Palin, Gingrich, Guiliani and Beck appreciate that - they like pulling the strings on the Christians who are stupid enough to allow themselves to be manipulated that way.

Just as radical Islamists encourage their extremists factions to rise up in anger - so do the radical Christians - hopping to further a holy war.

Just because they act like tribal heathens doesn't mean we should in kind.

But you wouldn't know that from reading blogs like this.

Many around here are as stupid as the tribal heathens - only you don't have the excuse of a poor education or poverty or decades of indoctrination to explain your ignorance.

Spoken like a true bed wetting, mouth breathing, liberal limp dick. Way to go Dane!

brainless Dane,

If you want to kiss islamist ass your at the wrong site. dailyKOS is bookmarked for you.

Get lost appeaser.

Hey Dane news flash Christians don't kill people for not being Christian, Christians don't fly airplanes into buildings and cut off people's heads. They don't park car bombs in Times Square and try to blow up airplanes. So stop with the crazy christians crap. American's are getting sick and tired of offended muslims acting out. Some are giving muslims the chance to prove they are indeed the religion of peace but it seems every time someone does something that offends the religion of peace responds with violence. Do you really want to live in an America where offending muslims trumps the 1st amendment?

"But if some Islamists are going to act like unwashed, unthinking heathens - why are some Christians choosing to act the same way?"

I cannot, for the life of me, believe that I just read someone comparing burning a Koran to killing 3000 innocent people. Utterly the most despicable thing I have seen/heard/read in a long time.

Wow, Dane. You certainly don't disappoint. Note that neither the cartoonist nor the erstwhile koran burner actually "acted". All they did was talk. In fact, as stated by JT, the cartoonist "took down the announcement, called it off, and apologized profusely for thinking she has the right to draw a picture of Islam's founding prophet pedophilic psychopathic warlord."
If you don't think the actions of the adherents of the "religion of pieces" belie the Orwellian nickname "religion of peace", which is, in my view, the gist of the post, then you are ... well, what I think you are. And by the way, please cite those Christians "hopping to further a holy war."

Dane in all seriousness your moral equivalency declares you eligible to be an American taliban or a CNN anchor.

enjoy.

I think all of us have forgotten the brief images, very, very, quickly squashed by the MSM, of the tens of thousands of peaceful Muslims dancing in the streets in celebration after 9/11.

I think that is the biggest problem for ppl like Dane, they know, down deep, that the Islamic world hates our culture, our way of life and the freedom we represent, it is totally at odds with the teachings of their Immam's, which is all about the subjegation of the individual will. To have a culture so ingrained with hate towards us must mean WE have done something wrong.

The thing that I just can't understand is that by the very fact he, and others of similar bent, can come on to a site like this, go into the street, create their own sites/org's., etc., and have the freedom to express his ideals, no matter the distaste some may feel for them, shows the tolerance he claims is lacking in so many Americans. I and I'm sure many like me, would fight for his right to say these things.
It would seem that his outrage would be directed, and common agreement could be found, against violence and tacit attacks on the 1st amendment, yet we don't see that.

Many around here are as stupid as the tribal heathens - only you don't have the excuse of a poor education or poverty or decades of indoctrination to explain your ignorance.

Sure we do. We were educated by liberals, we're in poverty now because of liberals, and we've been indoctrinated for decades by liberals.

So we've got every excuse to tee off on our enemies - all of them. Some foreign.

Everyone understands that radical Islamists are out of control bat-shit crazy.

Agreed. So now do you see the futility of reasoning with them?

Kill them. Kill them all.

Pfft, I'm not even a Christian. Try to work that out.

You know, right after 9/11, President Bush took great pains to make sure Americans knew we were NOT "at war with Islam," but with terrorists who had usurped the name of Islam for their own nefarious political purposes. He repeated it every so often throughout the rest of his presidency.

Every reputable statesman in America, from Powell to Gates, Obama to Clinton, Pelosi to Boehner, will tell you the same thing. And it's important to remember it.

Know why? Because a war between Islam and the West is EXACTLY what Bin Laden wants! You people are playing right into bin Laden's hands, dont you see it?

Rabble-rousers like Mr Tea should be ashamed of themselves with their "pedophile warlord" nonsense and their snark about "the religion of peace" in scare quotes. They are dupes of bin Laden and Zawahiri. I would say "unwitting dupes," but they've been told many times how counter-productive this Islamophobic hysteria will prove to be. But in their almost total ignorance of how anyone else sees the world besides half-smart provincial propaganda-victims like themselves, they just don't give a shit.

Aren't liberals always calling us conservative cowards because we want to challenge terrorists. Now we have some retard saying we shouldn't do anything that might rile them up. It is confusing trying to figure out liberals.

Know why? Because a war between Islam and the West is EXACTLY what Bin Laden wants! You people are playing right into bin Laden's hands, dont you see it?

We're at war with Islam and Communism/ liberalism/ socialism/ whatever you want to call it ism, you stupid pussy. Bush's statement was psy war. Kinda like dropping leaflets over enemy lines saying we'll treat you well if you surrender.

Seriously, are you perplexed by Sesame Street?

Right, Guevara. It was exactly like dropping leaflets. "Psy war." How could I fail to see that?

Boy, is my face red!

Boy, is my face red!

Figures. Everything else about you is too.

What I don't understand is why it's uncalled for when anyone critizes muslims but it's just fine to say and do hateful things about and to christians. If someone wants to create "art" like piss christ that's ok, no problem and that's not considered "Rabble Rousing" buy oh it's quite a different story when it comes to muslims. Do you really think Bin Laden wants a total war between muslims and the west really? I doubt that unless he's dumber than he looks.

Bruce, I chose my terms carefully. The Koran clearly describes Mohammed's marriage to a six-year-old girl, but how he didn't consummate it until she was nine. Psychologists have looked into the Koran, and said "psychotic" is a good term. And he was a warlord, spreading his vision by the sword.

There's a lot of religious conflict going on. The vast majority of it has Muslims on at least one side, most certainly as the aggressor, covers the "religion of peace" angle.

Truth is an absolute defense, and I stand by the truth of what I've said. If you don't like it, then you have a problem with reality. And if you have a problem with me speaking truth... then you got bigger issues than I can help you with.

J.

I do believe that some people just don't grasp the fact that violent jihadism is not a distortion of Islam, but is actually part and parcel of Islam.

There is no "peaceful only" Islam. The Koran and Hadithas are quite explicit in directing the followers of Islam to fight and kill unbelievers.

And because Islam is not just a religion, but a social and governmental philosophy, too, it allows for the murder of non-Muslims and allows for violence against non-Muslims. In Muslim countries where they go on violent rampages against non-Muslims, the Muslim government invariably looks the other way.

A truly peaceful religion would not tolerate this killing and violence in the name of the religion. But it is tolerated.

Regardless of how many peaceful Muslims may live in the West, it should be obvious to everybody that at some point, civilization will have to choose whether to survive and fight against Islam, or submit to it.

Re: "You know, right after 9/11, President Bush took great pains to make sure Americans knew we were NOT "at war with Islam," but with terrorists who had usurped the name of Islam for their own nefarious political purposes."

Then explain why muslims the world over celebrated the 911 attacks.

And please excuse me but Pelosi is NOT a reputable statesman in any way, shape or form.

Last item, may not be pc, but Weegie is exactly right.

What did you do Jay, convene a troll convention?

#22 they can't all be terrorists" farmers, doctors, etc ?- the asshole at Ft Hood was a doctor. VC were farmers, shopkeepers etc

#23 Christian fanning the flames of hatred? I'm not a Christian. Lack of education, indoctrination, ignorance? I have 2 college degrees, traveled extensively, - what is ignorant, is pretending a threat from islam doesn't exist.

#34 Having sex with a 9 year old isn't pedophilia? Killing men, women and children personally, and leading others doing the same isn't a warlord? islam a religion of peace? Wow, talk about someone with their head buried up their ass, bet he sees tonsils

Just because our leaders do not call the war on terror a Holy War, that does not mean it is so. How stupid is that logic. Of course they, the terrorists are engaged in a Holy War against us whether we acknowledge that or not. And as I stated presiously, you add up the "few" examples of Islam extremism, it is quite a bit. Islam, at this point in world events, cannot be trusted. They can even lie to further the cause of taking over the world. Liberals, are for the most part, running in fear of muslims as if they will give them a pass. Muslims do not hate republicans and/or Christians, they hate americans. You lefties better wake up. ww

Two things.

One, I'm not an apologist for pedophilia. But, apparently, back in the 7th Century, it wasn't considered shameful for a male "warlord" to consummate a marriage, for dynastic reasons, with a 9 year old. It happened in Europe, China, and the Middle East. We find it shocking today, but if the people of the time had found it so, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be written down.

Secondly, as I remember, the only people filmed "dancing in the streets" after 9/11 were on the West Bank and Gaza strip. There were demonstrations of SUPPORT for the US in the Muslim world, as I recall, including Iran and Syria. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly. Any of you googlemaniacs wanna post a link showing "Muslims worldwide" celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

@43, regarding your comment on #22, perhaps you did not understand. We're on the same page with this. I was just pulling the rug out from under the argument that "they're not all terrorists", in the manner of saying, "of course not, most of them have to be other things, or they would all starve to death naked". I don't mean to say that many, most, possibly all of them wouldn't answer the call if it came down to them. Just that the fact they're not all terrorists is a distraction from how dangerous their ideology is to us.