I'm a tad late to this story but thought that maybe some of you had missed it:
A government investigator says 89,000 stimulus payments of $250 each went to people who were either dead or in prison.
The Social Security Administration's inspector general said in a report Thursday that $18 million went to 72,000 people who were dead. The report estimates that a little more than half the payments were returned.
The report said $4.3 million went to a little more than 17,000 prison inmates.
The payments were part of the government's massive economic recovery package enacted in February 2009.
Can you say quid pro quo?
Comments (22)
So where is Sheriff Joe and... (Below threshold)1. Posted by GarandFan | October 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
So where is Sheriff Joe and Eric Holder?
1. Posted by GarandFan | October 9, 2010 11:26 AM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on October 9, 2010 11:26
2. Posted by Walter Cronanty | October 9, 2010 11:34 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
It's the "Chicago way." If you expect them to vote for you, it's only right that you them.
2. Posted by Walter Cronanty | October 9, 2010 11:34 AM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 11:34
3. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 11:47 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Let the impeachment of the crook in cheif begin in January. This is way worse then slick billybod gettin his knob washed.
3. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 11:47 AM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 11:47
4. Posted by John | October 9, 2010 12:23 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
And the liberals and leftist want the government to take over more.
4. Posted by John | October 9, 2010 12:23 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on October 9, 2010 12:23
5. Posted by Old Coot | October 9, 2010 12:36 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
And these idiots want to be in charge of my health care?
5. Posted by Old Coot | October 9, 2010 12:36 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 12:36
6. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Now we know why the economy was not stimulated. Dead people dont create wealth unless you inherit it from them.
Barry sheister is ripping off the public and laundering funds to try and stay in power.
Enemy within thy name is democrat.
6. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 12:42 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 12:42
7. Posted by Donna B. | October 9, 2010 12:47 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
That the stimulus itself was a bad idea doesn't mean that 0.17% of the payments being wrongly sent is bad. Also, since those payments were targeted to SS beneficiaries, the chances that some died between an update of the rolls and the sending of the checks is pretty high.
I'm also wondering - of the 50% that weren't returned, what percentage were actually spent?
7. Posted by Donna B. | October 9, 2010 12:47 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 12:47
8. Posted by galoob | October 9, 2010 12:52 PM | Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
Since about 7000 people die every day in the USA, this is hardly surprising.
If I print and mail out checks over a ten day period, that means 70,000 people even if I am completely up-to-date on who's alive on Day One.
This is not rocket science. A person of average intelligence can figure it out themselves, but it is the kind of fact that needs to be pointed out here.
8. Posted by galoob | October 9, 2010 12:52 PM |
Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
Posted on October 9, 2010 12:52
9. Posted by gollyneds | October 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
quick clue for these bozos and their being in charge of health care. living and dead are not
the same. here's how to tell them apart.
if they are in a sealed box 6 feet under the ground, odds are good they're dead. DO NOT SEND STIMULUS CHECK. also, if they reside in an urn on the mantlepiece, same deal. they are likely dead. NO CHECKS.
were these guys absent the day they taught biology?
9. Posted by gollyneds | October 9, 2010 1:24 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 13:24
10. Posted by GarandFan | October 9, 2010 1:29 PM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Excuses, excuses galoob. Those checks went out the first part of this year. FYI, it's now OCTOBER. 50% of those checks WERE CASHED.
Since when do dead people CASH checks? Is there going to be a follow-up by Sheriff Joe?
Don't hold your breath.
10. Posted by GarandFan | October 9, 2010 1:29 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 13:29
11. Posted by irongrampa | October 9, 2010 1:33 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Nice, concise proof that massive government is massively inefficient.
I think that on November 2nd, the Dems are going to find out that America IS stimulated--to their everlasting chagrin.
No doubt Chrissy Matthews "tingle up the leg" will turn out to be a trickle down the leg.
11. Posted by irongrampa | October 9, 2010 1:33 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 13:33
12. Posted by Donna B. | October 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Score: -4 (8 votes cast)
Wrong GarandFan - you don't know whether 50% of those checks were cashed or not -- all you know is that 50% were returned.
And... wouldn't most (if not all?) of those stimulus payments have been in the form of a direct deposit? That's why I asked how many of the 50% not returned were actually spent?
The error rate was less than 2/10ths of 1%.
There's plenty - whole fleets of cargo shiploads - of stuff wrong with government and especially this particular administration.
Don't hyperventilate over something this insignificant. Focus on the fact there were any payments made at all!
12. Posted by Donna B. | October 9, 2010 2:58 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 14:58
13. Posted by John | October 9, 2010 4:11 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
So what you're telling us Donna, is that the government is effcient and effective and should control more? Seriously? And even with out this problem the stimulus was suppose to hold unemployment under 8% hows that working? I'll never understand why anyone would want more government.
13. Posted by John | October 9, 2010 4:11 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 16:11
14. Posted by Walter Cronanty | October 9, 2010 4:25 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
John, I don't think that is what Donna was saying. I think she was saying that the original numbers may be misleading and that there are greater things to get worked up about than the numbers presented, like the fact that the payments were made at all.
I think the numbers are illustrative of what inevitably goes wrong in massive government programs. Thus, they're worth looking at, and commenting on. But, I won't "hyperventilate" over them - although the payments do kind of piss me off, in a non-hyperventilating sort of way. I don't know who said it, but it's true: "We're too broke to be this stupid."
14. Posted by Walter Cronanty | October 9, 2010 4:25 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 16:25
15. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 4:28 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Galube-
"If I print and mail out checks over a ten day period"
You would be committing a federal crime just like your overlord Barry, lord of the lies.
to Galobb-
"Since when do dead people CASH checks? Is there going to be a follow-up by Sheriff Joe?
Don't hold your breath."
Dear Galoob, please disregard that last suggestion.
15. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 4:28 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 16:28
16. Posted by Upset Old Guy | October 9, 2010 4:30 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
I have a humble suggestion, since Donna B. says this error is "insignificant", I think she should pay it. And since her statement about its insignificance is based on it being just 2/10 of 1%, she should also pay off 2/10 of 1% of the national debt.
Insignificant is as insignificant does.
16. Posted by Upset Old Guy | October 9, 2010 4:30 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 16:30
17. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 4:55 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Insignificant?? Man! Give me some of that insignifigance.
17. Posted by 914 | October 9, 2010 4:55 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 16:55
18. Posted by Donna B. | October 9, 2010 5:25 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I'll try again for those commenters deficient in reading comprehension, logic, and common sense.
1. The stimulus is the thing to be upset over. Hyperventilate over that. It stunk to high heaven. Hyperventilate over Obamacare - it stinks even worse.
2. Don't waste your time OR your breath on what doesn't matter at this point -- the rather remarkably LOW error rate (for government) in implementing the stinking stimulus.
18. Posted by Donna B. | October 9, 2010 5:25 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 17:25
19. Posted by John | October 9, 2010 8:55 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Let me make it simple, all of it is worth getting upset about. It's all bad no matter how small it might be in the overall scheme of things it's more evidence that the federal government is not a solution to our problems. They are the problem not the solution and every single grain of sand we can pile on that camel's back will push it closer to breaking.
19. Posted by John | October 9, 2010 8:55 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2010 20:55
20. Posted by Jeff | October 10, 2010 9:33 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Dead people vote in Chicago every year, shouldn't the dead get their fair share of the Stimulus ?
20. Posted by Jeff | October 10, 2010 9:33 AM |
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Posted on October 10, 2010 09:33
21. Posted by Olsoljer | October 10, 2010 10:18 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the prisoners who recevied the stimulus checks and cashed them should be put in jail!
21. Posted by Olsoljer | October 10, 2010 10:18 AM |
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Posted on October 10, 2010 10:18
22. Posted by Montana | October 12, 2010 5:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Griff Harsh, the husband of California gubernatorial candidate Nutmeg Whitman, acknowledged in a statement on Thursday that "it is possible" he received and wrote notes on a letter from the Social Security Administration back in 2003, regarding the former Housekeeper/Maid. The Harsh/ Whitman household then fired their housekeeper in June 2009 (after nine years of service), when Nutmeg handlers decided that she was an election liability.
And now the Jill Armstrong, a former full-time nanny of the Harsh/ Whitman dungeon, came to the defense of the Housekeeper/Maid and told the San Francisco Chronicle that she believes Diaz's claim because she "know[s] the family" and "what it was like."
Meg, Meg, Meg, where do I start, you have reportedly spent $140 million of your own money to get elected Governor but you couldn't use some of it to get your housekeeper (after nine years of service) some legal help to get her papers, and worse you lied about it. Wow, what a WITCH, of course I meant it with a "B".
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#39450925
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRrNs8-s5w
But your comments on holding employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers real takes the cake, I assume you exempt yourself and your husband, or will you be turning yourself in.
Meg on holding employers accountable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4fWLHiw8zA
Meg you think you can buy the election, but what puzzles many is if you real cared and loved California then why not do your civic duty and vote, seems more rhetoric than anything else.
In good times we might give you a try but not in our disaster mode that we find ourselves in after that so-called outsider Independent Republican, named Arnold Schwarzenegger (sold to us by radio personalities John and Ken), ruined our state, yah we will trust another one of you liars, think not. And another thing nine years this maid was in your house, in your house and you failed to learned this major thing about her, come on this sounds like a huge lie that no one can believe in.
Ebay paid out $200,000 because Nutmeg assaulted an employee, so it's not the first time she has mistreated an employee. Good luck winning Nutmeg, money will buy you admiration from the majority just from the Gay Old Party (GOP), but not from all of California.
22. Posted by Montana | October 12, 2010 5:46 PM |
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Posted on October 12, 2010 17:46