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"I certainly thought the call was inappropriate"

That's Anita Hill after hearing from Mrs. Clarence Thomas:

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Nearly 20 years after sexual harassment allegations almost derailed Clarence Thomas's Supreme Court nomination, the justice's wife telephoned Anita Hill, his principal accuser, to seek an apology.

"I did place a call to Ms. Hill at her office extending an olive branch to her after all these years, in hopes that we could ultimately get past what happened so long ago," Virginia Thomas said through a spokesman. Mrs. Thomas, a longtime conservative activist, has lately taken a more visible role by founding a tea-party group called Liberty Central.

Ms. Hill, now a professor at Brandeis University, said she didn't take Mrs. Thomas's Oct. 9 voicemail as conciliatory.

"I certainly thought the call was inappropriate," Ms. Hill said through a Brandeis spokesman. "I have no intention of apologizing because I testified truthfully about my experience and I stand by that testimony."

Ms. Hill said she initially assumed the call, which a Brandeis spokesman said came in at 7:30 a.m. on a Saturday, was a prank. She notified campus security, Brandeis spokesman Charles Radin said, which in a routine procedure alerted the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Representatives of Brandeis said they were unaware of any other contact between Mrs. Thomas and Ms. Hill since the aftermath of the confirmation hearings in 1991.

"Good morning, Anita Hill, it's Ginni Thomas," the message went. "I just wanted to reach across the airwaves and the years and ask you to consider something. I would love you to consider an apology sometime and some full explanation of why you did what you did with my husband. So give it some thought and certainly pray about this and come to understand why you did what you did. Okay have a good day."

The transcript was first published by ABC News.

We live in curious times don't we?


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Comments (29)

Honestly, I wonder what was... (Below threshold)
James H:

Honestly, I wonder what was going through Mrs. Thomas's mind. From my vantage point outside the conflict, there seems to be little reason to make the call.

James, the timing is curiou... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

James, the timing is curious, perhaps even a bit unsettling.

Here's what gets me, UOG. ... (Below threshold)
James H:

Here's what gets me, UOG. I've had a couple of long-simmering feuds with people myself. But I don't call them up at work and tell them they should apologize to me. If they're at the other end of the country and living their lives, and I'm at my end of the country and living my life, I just leave them alone and they leave me alone.

Why do this now? It makes no sense to me.

Guys, #1, its definitely no... (Below threshold)
epador:

Guys, #1, its definitely not a guy thing here, so stop trying to use guy logic to analyze it.

Why now? Who knows.<p... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Why now? Who knows.

But this obviously bothered the Thomas's more than anyone expected, which leads me to believe all the more that the "incident" never ever took place.

Hill shows that she remains a "victim", by alerting authorities. I could see calling the police if a series of calls were received, but one call where the caller identifies herself? Must maintain the lie, I guess.

Gal #1 (Mrs THomas) has bee... (Below threshold)
epador:

Gal #1 (Mrs THomas) has been pissed at Gal #2 (Anita Hill) for dissing her man years ago. In the current political atmosphere she senses a weakness in the left, who Gal #2 represents, from Gal #1's point of view. Recently the Left has been all over her political activities, again. What better time to leave a snarky voicemail at the {bitch from Gal# 1's point of view] Gal #2's work phone, which is the only phone number she can get at as Gal #2 doesn't have her home # listed? She kicks the old dog and gets a swipe at the folks still barking at her heels.

Now its lacking a complete tactical appraisal before action, but that's estrogen.

As I understand it, at firs... (Below threshold)
James H:

As I understand it, at first Ms. Hill did not believe the call was really from Mrs. Thomas. In that case, forwarding it to police makes sense.

A couple guys could just ha... (Below threshold)
Roy:

A couple guys could just have a beer summit and get past this.

James, you have to let it g... (Below threshold)
Upset Old Guy:

James, you have to let it go. Simmering is not good for you. It also grants them control over you. Blow-up 'n forgetaboutit is much better for your health.

epador - yes, that works. Writing such a thing would also have earned me a dope-slap from the Upset Old Gal. You're a lucky man.

It makes perfect sense if M... (Below threshold)

It makes perfect sense if Ms. Thomas is going to, in the near future, become more media visible in politics. It becomes a gesture to diffuse most of the past issues that will come out if she chooses to become more active politically. It puts her on the record where she stands, lets her position that she has put it behind her and offered an olive branch (albeit a backhanded one).

What I've seen here, but mostly at OTB is the left trying to paint her as wacko or conniving, and sometimes both in the same comment. These attempts are for more disingenuous than her request for an apology.

I've long ago given up tryi... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

I've long ago given up trying to understand the minds of women, because they change the rules every few years. And my manual for women has one sentence on one page: Make her happy.

I'm sure Ginny Thomas is still ticked about the high-tech lynching of her husband. But for Hill to call campus police about what she thought was a "prank call" reveals a serious prickliness about Hill.

For the record, I don't and didn't believe Hill. And if you've never read Thomas' My Grandfather's Son, DO SO! It is one of the best autobiographies ever written by an American. And since Thomas laid bare all of his flaws in his book, I find it hard to believe that, if Hill's accusations were true, he wouldn't have omitted them from My Grandfather's Son.

Two nutty chicks, meh.<br /... (Below threshold)
galoob:

Two nutty chicks, meh.

Liberals will stoop to any ... (Below threshold)
914:

Liberals will stoop to any lie for an offer of power or money. Hill is a pawn of the leftist puppet msters just as much as yoda ears is.

Both are fools. You too galoob.

why would anyone bother wit... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

why would anyone bother with Hill ? she is just another lying bottom feeder who has milked her 15 minutes of fame ...

Whenever I get a voicemail ... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Whenever I get a voicemail I don't like I ALWAYS call the cops.

This woman's more flaky now than ever.

btw Still wondering how she knew it was a pubic hair......

Ginni Thomas is white. Ani... (Below threshold)
ElvenPhoenix:

Ginni Thomas is white. Anita Hill is black. Black women HATE it when a black man marries a white woman, they take it personally. They especially hate it if the woman in question is a blonde. That right there answers why Anita Hill did what she did way back in the day. I couldn't understand it when it was going on - until I saw a picture of Mrs. Thomas.

Grew up in Memphis, attended a 78% black high school...saw it in action.

If Mrs. Thomas is a devout ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

If Mrs. Thomas is a devout Christian, I think she was reaching out to forgive her. I'll bet Mrs. Thomas held animosity in her heart towards Hill over the years and she wanted to put it behind her. I don't think she wanted this to be done publicly. I personally think Hill does have to ask forgiveness for her bearing false witness and lying under oath.

It was the Thomas hearings that demonstrated to me how slimey the democrats could be. How mean spirited and plain cruel, for political gain. I also learned the Biden was an ass and he hasn't impressed me since. Clarence Thomas Hearings one hundred years from now will reveal how pathetic the left side of the dem party is. ww

ElvenPhoenix nailed it. </p... (Below threshold)
Andy:

ElvenPhoenix nailed it.

I supose it depends on who... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

I supose it depends on whom you think is telling the truth. Thomas or the three black women who accused him of sexual harassment? In repsonse to Elevn Phoenix, Could be that Mrs Thomas is the stereotypical jealous wife? She has asked Anita Hill for an apology before.

In her 1998 book "Speaking Truth to Power," Ms. Hill noted that she had been accused of harboring a romantic interest in Justice Thomas by his wife. "Virginia Thomas and I have never met," Ms. Hill wrote. "And one can imagine that she is guided by her own romantic interest in her husband when she assumes that other women find him attractive as well."

Justice Thomas weighed in with his own autobiography in 2007, "My Grandfather's Son, " referring to Ms. Hill as "my most traitorous adversary" and asserting that liberal advocacy groups stooped to "the age-old blunt instrument of accusing a black man of sexual misconduct" to block his ascent because of his conservative views.

Ms. Hill said she had a previous but indirect interaction with Ms. Thomas. After Justice Thomas's book was published, she said, Ms. Thomas told an interviewer that Ms. Hill should apologize. In response, Ms. Hill gave an interview reiterating that she had nothing to apologize for.

"I thought that was enough then to end it, but apparently it was not,"


This incident tells one eve... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

This incident tells one everything they need to know about Anita Hill. Screaming "inappropriate" and asking for an FBI investigation over mere contact over an answering machine. Lying to investigators that there is "no background" or context for the contact. Practically breaking down the door to get to the the media. Next, she'll be claiming that Mrs. Thomas left a pubic hair on her answering machine. If you had any doubts about Hill's character, this should put them to rest.

So who do you believe is te... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

So who do you believe is telling the truth Steve? Thomas or the "3 black women"? Who, by the way, only Hill accused him of harassment.
Angela Wright said his behavior was odd, but not harassment. Hardnet, his assistant, said he had not harassed her but felt he had "inspected her" as a woman.
Unless there are 2 other women out there I've never heard of. How about the other people that testified on Thomas' behalf during his confirmation hearings? A little ingeniousness on your part to try to paint it as 3 against one, in addition to your curious definitions of accuse and harassment.

In a similar vein, who do you believe, William Jefferson Clinton or Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinski, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Elizabeth Gracen, Dolly Browning and Sally Purdue?

Dis-ingenious... got to st... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Dis-ingenious... got to stop typing with my thumbs...

I'll second what SCSIwuzzy ... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

I'll second what SCSIwuzzy said to Steve.

In addition, Steve, you said "She has asked Anita Hill for an apology before", which is COMPLETELY different from what your quoted text says. That says she told an interviewer that she thought Hill should apologize. Those aren't the same thing at all.

SCSIwuzzy, o'kay if you, R... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

SCSIwuzzy, o'kay if you, Rick and Jay for years continue to tie your mast to a sleazebag, like Thomas. It defies reality that a person, with the sleaziness and second rate mind of Thomas, to expect that he was telling the truth, about how he related to women working for him. Since you asked, here is another one who was intimidated for years, but now is breaking her silence.

Thomas vehemently denied the allegations and his handlers cited his steady relationship with another woman in an effort to deflect Hill's allegations.

Lillian McEwen was that woman.

"I have nothing to be afraid of," she said, adding that she hopes the attention stokes interest in her manuscript.

To McEwen, Hill's allegations that Thomas had pressed her for dates and made lurid sexual references rang familiar.

It is obvious as athe nose on my face that Anita Hill was telling the truth and Thomas was comitting per jury but not to conservatives, who are 'blessed' with cognitive dissonance or larceny themselves.

Nice projection Crickmore. ... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Nice projection Crickmore. No explanation of your lie on the other 2 women, or your position on WJC vs the many women who claim to be wronged by him.

Actually, I did 'lie' unin... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Actually, I did 'lie' unintentionlly. There were not three but four or five black women including Anita Hill who spoke to the Senate investigators about Thomas 'licentious' talk and behavior, plus , his long time girlfriend and former Judicary Committee member who says "he was obsessed with porn".

The article from todays`s Washington Post rather propitiously (SCSIwuzzy, you are reading it) refers to the women.

Another woman, Sukari Hardnett, who worked as a special assistant to Thomas in 1985 and 1986, wrote in a letter to the Judiciary Committee that "If you were young, black, female and reasonably attractive, you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female" by Thomas.


Angela Wright, who in 1984 worked as public affairs director at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission -- which polices sexual harassment claims -- during Thomas's long tenure as chairman, shared similar accounts with Senate investigators.

Once, when walking into an EEOC seminar with Thomas, he asked her, "What size are your breasts?" according to the transcript of her Senate interview.

Her story was corroborated by a former EEOC speechwriter, who told investigators that Wright had become increasingly uneasy around Thomas because of his comments about her appearance.

and of course Anita Hill.

That is four plus his longtime girlfriend and prosecutor who is now going public, Lillian McEwen.

"He was obsessed with porn," she said of Thomas, who is now 63. "He would talk about what he had seen in magazines and films, if there was something worth noting."

McEwen's connection to Thomas was strictly personal. She had even disclosed that relationship to Biden (head of the Judiciary Commiteee), who had been her boss years earlier.

I suppose that the Thomas' are going to ask Lilliane McEwen who is 65 and retired from a successful career as a prosecutor, law professor and administrative law judge for for an apology? Shoudn't Hill be asking Clarence Thomas for an apology?

And yet Steve, how many acc... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

And yet Steve, how many accuse him of harassment? Definitions matter, Stevo. I already covered Wright and Hardnet, so try not to act like you've found a way to up the count. I also find your obsession with the women's ethnicity to be utterly charming.
If Hill feels she is owed an apology, she should ask for one. Same as Mrs. Thomas. Though I doubt Mrs. Thomas will call the cops if she finds a message in her voicemail...

So, who do you believe, Pres. Clinton or the half dozen women that have come forward to say he sexually assaulted or committed adultery with them? Does it matter that they are all white?

Good to hear the hapless Hi... (Below threshold)

Good to hear the hapless Hill still hath the fury of a woman scorned -- and the notoriety to match.

Poor quota-hired Peter Principal proving poser, already well on the way into her dotage, still hasn't shown any independent ability -- and isn't ever likely to.

And taking all of that into her Alzheimer's -- and the bile on her palate from her contemplation of Justice Thomas's brilliant career -- aught be thought punishment enough.

SCSIwuzzy, I believed the w... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

SCSIwuzzy, I believed the women against the Clintons. Ths same riduculous parsing ( that he media never picks up) and moisting of lips when there is dissembling by Clinton and Thomas.




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