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"Islamophobia?" Redux

Over the weekend, my colleague Rick posted a piece about the latest strain of violence in Iraq -- the deliberate targeting of that nation's relatively few Christians. And that got me thinking. And Rick's other piece this morning gave me another push.

Iraq is hardly the only place where Christians are being specifically targeted by Muslims for oppression and attacks. It's not that safe to be a Christian in Pakistan, either.

I could cite a few more examples, but let's move on. Do I really need to bring up the treatment of Jews by Muslims -- and not just in Israel?

And then there's Africa. Islam is pretty well established on that continent, especially the north -- and it's moving south. For example, the ongoing Darfur genocide is being carried out by Muslim Arabs against both Muslim and non-Muslim blacks -- it appears that race trumps religion in this case.

In brief, there's a whole hell of a lot of religious-based killing going on around the world. And the vast majority of it seems to be done by Muslims.

So, where the hell is this "Islamophobia" going on? Where in the world -- literally -- are Muslims being targeted and killed in large numbers purely because of their faith?

Wait, lemme correct that. There are quite a few cases of that going on. But they seem to be almost exclusively cases of Muslims being targeted by other Muslims for being the "wrong type of Muslim" or "not being Muslim enough."

A "phobia" is defined as an unreasoning fear. I have a couple -- for example, I get very nervous whenever I encounter a lumber truck on the road. (I know precisely why I have that fear, and I know that I'm not in any real danger, but I still don't like it.)

In this case, though, in a lot of cases, having a fear of Muslims is a very reasonable concern. If you're a Christian in Iraq or Pakistan or any other nation with a dominant Muslim culture, you should be apprehensive. If you're a Jew, especially but not exclusively in Israel, you should be apprehensive. If you've written a book that many Muslims have declared offensive or blasphemous, you should be apprehensive. If you've drawn or published cartoons of Mohammed, you should be apprehensive. If you've just talked about drawing cartoons of Mohammed, you should be apprehensive.

As I said, a "phobia" is an unreasonable fear. When the fear is entirely reasonable, though, that fear has another term.

It's called "a survival instinct."


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"...having a fear of Mus... (Below threshold)

"...having a fear of Muslims is a very reasonable concern"

With a billion and half or so Muslims in the world, even if there were a million who posed a real threat to you/me/us, that's less than one tenth of one percent. Put another way, for every 1,500 Muslims who cross your path, just one of them would do you harm. Those aren't ratios that justify such a blanket statement.

Now, if you wished to qualify it... such as by limiting your fear to particular subsets (those Muslims of a certain age, sex, those brandishing a weapon, screaming 'death to Jay Tea'), or if you were in an area in which being hacked to death by a fanatical Muslim was more likely than in New Hampshire, then you'd be on more solid ground statistically.

Why do Christians insist on... (Below threshold)
Barak2012:

Why do Christians insist on living in places where they clearly do not belong? Nothing like leading with the ol' chin.

Gee Barak2012, maybe they l... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Gee Barak2012, maybe they live there because that's where they were born. Or are you such an imbecile that you are entirely unaware that Christians exist in countries like Iraq, Iran and Pakistan? Or are you saying that if they want to praxctice their religion they should leave?

Care to make the same statement about Israel and muslims? Thought not. Or how about muslims and the western world? They don't like our culture so they should get out, Right?

Not surprising that the ugliest, most racist sentiment comes from one of our lefty triolls.

Care to make the same st... (Below threshold)
Barak2012:

Care to make the same statement about Israel and muslims?

Glad to. I think the Palestinians should get their land back. Don't you?

Hey, I'm just saying what we're all thinking.

And what's a trioll?... (Below threshold)
Barak2012:

And what's a trioll?

"Why do Christians insist o... (Below threshold)
boqueronman:

"Why do Christians insist on living in places where they clearly do not belong?" Wow! That comment is breathtakingly stupid. There are trolls - which attracts me to Wizbang on a regular basis - and then there are Trolls. To keep this response short I'm forced to oversimplify, so excuse me for addressing a complex historical issue in a few short sentences. First there were Jews and pagans in the Middle East. Then about 36 AD there began to be a small, but growing, community of Christians. This religion spread slowly by voluntary conversion from paganism to Christianity. By 60 AD there were probably only a few thousand Christians. But by the 7th Century, Christianity had replaced Roman inspired paganism as the dominant regional religion.

Then the "religion" of Islam appeared and spread rapidly by conquest and treaty. Islam began as, and still is, a religion of force, backed by threats of violent conversion, submission to Islamic political authorities, or expulsion/escape. Thus first there were Christians and then there were the Islamic conquerors. As Bernard Lewis - the preeminent Middle East historian - puts it "the effective discharge of [spreading the Muslim faith] required the continued exercise of political and military power - in a word, of sovereignty - in a state." The 1,300 year war of Muslims against Christians [or the West] continues to this day. Thus, our existential choice is either "submit" or... die. Our friendly troll has apparently already submitted, because, per the Muslim faith, he most surely lives in a place where, if he remains a non-Muslim, he "does not belong"... even if it's Peoria, Illinois.

First there were Jews an... (Below threshold)
Barak2012:

First there were Jews and pagans in the Middle East.

Okay. Let's follow your logic. When should we give Arizona and California back to Mexico??

Year by year, university ... (Below threshold)
gaius piconius:

Year by year, university course by university course, the committed liberal becomes more and more what, he or she, deserve to be tagged; 'The Loony Left'. The peculiarity though is that, generationally, they become even more extreme in their obscure condemnation of the West and its successes in dragging humanity into the light. Last century they favoured and supported any leftist force, incl Adolph Hitler, up until his Operation Barbarossa when their champion Josef Stalin was turned on and attacked. Now Barak 2012 at #2 and Steve at#1 are championing Islam no matter the evidence that recommends against its ferocity and the reluctance of all the world. Yet, on the opposite hand they are themselves, almost exclusively, non or anti theists. Correct me in this if you can, but I think as a next move, Steve and Barak will champion the gangsters of Mexico in their fight against Arizona and other states. Wow! Nothing like education to develope the grey matter.

"Hey, I'm just saying wh... (Below threshold)
Oyster:

"Hey, I'm just saying what we're all thinking."

a) you don't speak for me
b) I don't know who you are but I know *what* you are.

"Why do Christians insist on living in places where they clearly do not belong?"

Why do you insist on saying moronic things in a blog that is clearly above your IQ level? You obviously don't belong here.

"Okay. Let's follow your logic. When should we give Arizona and California back to Mexico??"

Your "logic" has nothing to do with boqueronman's statements. Those of Mexican heritage are still there and living without the threat of death for being Mexican. They don't pay extra taxes for being Mexican and they are allowed to practice any faith they want freely.

Care to keep making moronic statements?

Why do you insist on say... (Below threshold)
Barak2012:

Why do you insist on saying moronic things in a blog that is clearly above your IQ level?

Gawrsh. I dunno, Oyster. Maybe I just like all of this stimulating intellectual banter. Plus they gave me this computer to use during rec time.

Those of Mexican heritage are still there and living without the threat of death for being Mexican.

Really? Then why are so many dying just to get back to land of their heritage?

Care to keep making moronic statements?

I admit that it's difficult to compete with you. But, I try.




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