San Diego man has had it up to here... er... there... with the TSA pat downs... and may pay a punitive price for it:
John Tyner won't be pheasant hunting in South Dakota with his father-in-law any time soon.
Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a lawsuit and a $10,000 fine if he left.
And he got the whole thing on his cell phone. Well, the audio at least.
The 31-year-old Oceanside software programmer was supposed to leave from Lindbergh Field on Saturday morning and until a TSA agent directed him toward one of the recently installed full-body scanners, Tyner seemed to be on his way.
Tyner balked.
He'd been reading about the scanners and didn't like them for a number of reasons, ranging from health concerns to "a huge invasion of privacy." He'd even checked the TSA website which indicated that San Diego did not have the machines, he said in a phone interview Saturday night.
"I was surprised to see them," said Tyner.
He also did something that may seem odd to some, manipulative to others but fortuitous to plenty of others for whom Tyner is becoming something of a folk hero: Tyner turned on his cell phone's video camera and placed it atop the luggage he sent through the x-ray machine.
He may not be the first traveler tossed from an airport for security reasons but he could well be the first to have the whole experience captured on his cell phone.
During the next half-hour, his cell phone recorded Tyner refusing to submit to a full body scan, opting for the traditional metal scanner and a basic "pat down" -- and then refusing to submit to a "groin check" by a TSA security guard.
He even told the guard, "You touch my junk and I'm going to have you arrested."
Well... things didn't quite work out for Mr. Tyner... read the rest and get educated... and get used to it... cuz it seems that Ms. Napolitano isn't backing down about these things.
In the mean-time, Drudge is running the following photo that seems to paint the current picture about as accurately as things can be painted:

Looks as if her junk is being touched... and by someone in Muslim garb no less.
Incredible.



Comments (26)
I don't get the indignation... (Below threshold)1. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 12:40 PM | Score: -15 (19 votes cast)
I don't get the indignation. It's not OK to have to go through a scanner when flying? Compared to other infringements on privacy, like eavesdropping on American's emails and phone calls without a warrant, that's nothing.
It's a fact that bombs can be hidden on the person. Whether any security measure can prevent them getting onboard a plane is another debate, but some examination and deterrence is prudent.
Your picture means nothing - a jihadist suicide bomber can dress up as a nun and a woman wearing a hijab can be a diligent and loyal.
1. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 12:40 PM |
Score: -15 (19 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 12:40
2. Posted by TexBob | November 15, 2010 12:42 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Perfect picture of how Janet Incompetano has led HSA.
Muslim women feeling up an infidel nun.
2. Posted by TexBob | November 15, 2010 12:42 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 12:42
3. Posted by TexBob | November 15, 2010 12:45 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Galoogi,
Nothing is prudent about what the TSA is doing and they are NOT keeping us safe with their BS procedures as they continue to be PC with arab looking men who go through security unmolested.
It's a joke at best.
3. Posted by TexBob | November 15, 2010 12:45 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 12:45
4. Posted by Tsar Nicholas II | November 15, 2010 12:45 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Obama's team simply is getting in touch with its inner NKVD, is all.
4. Posted by Tsar Nicholas II | November 15, 2010 12:45 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 12:45
5. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 1:02 PM | Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
Nothing is prudent about what the TSA is doing and they are NOT keeping us safe with their BS procedures as they continue to be PC with arab looking men who go through security unmolested.
If everyone has to go through the scanner or be frisked, how are "arab looking men" going through "unmolested?"
Plus, "arab looking men" include Hispanics, Italians, Jews, and Greeks, all of whom share DNA with Arabs.
But we know that white people can never be terrorists, right?
5. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 1:02 PM |
Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 13:02
6. Posted by Jeff | November 15, 2010 1:09 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
galoob ...
they certainly can dress up as nuns ... but they haven't yet ...
until then ...
6. Posted by Jeff | November 15, 2010 1:09 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 13:09
7. Posted by 914 | November 15, 2010 1:17 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
I guess I will dress as a mid eastern arab if I ever decide to fly. Much less hassle that way.
7. Posted by 914 | November 15, 2010 1:17 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 13:17
8. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 1:22 PM | Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
galoob ...
they certainly can dress up as nuns ... but they haven't yet ...
until then ...
So you're saying the TSA should let people dressed as nuns pass through without a search until someone notices that vulnerability and uses it to get a bomb onboard a plane? What about those dressed as priests? People dressed in military uniforms, should they be exempt, too? How many potential vulnerabilities would you like to create?
By the way, the picture is at least three years old, it has nothing to do with Napolitano:
http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/interesting-airport.html
Why wasn't it on Drudge when Bush was president?
8. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 1:22 PM |
Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 13:22
9. Posted by SillyPuddy | November 15, 2010 1:37 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Don't forget we're paying 8+ Billion a year for this BS TSA facade of "security". I say dump it entirely the entire agency. If the airports or airline want to implement there own procedures fine, at least the cost will be more direct to those traveling and something tells me the airport employees or airline employee folks will be held much more accountable then these federally funded TSA drones.
9. Posted by SillyPuddy | November 15, 2010 1:37 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 13:37
10. Posted by Roy | November 15, 2010 1:53 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
It's so much better having Napolitano's crew touching your junk, instead of that evil old John Ashcroft dude.
10. Posted by Roy | November 15, 2010 1:53 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 13:53
11. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:20 PM | Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
galoob you're such a stupid ass it's pathetic.
Yeah, you can argue 'by flying you've consented'. By the same token, you could then use the El Al method of screening saying "BY FLYING YOU'VE CONSENTED". But that would be PROFILING!
Gasp! Choke!
NEWS FLASH! Arabs routinely fly El Al. They want to get to their destination in one piece just like everyone else.
NEWS FLASH! PETN is colorless and odorless. Disguise a detonator as a pen, leave it in the tray for the stalwarts of the TSA to examine, they'll let it go right on by.
NEWS FLASH! TSA subjects a 3 year old girl to a full 'hands on' search. The TSA goon attempted to snatch her stuffed toy from her. He didn't "like the way she reacted". HEY! A stranger snatches my 2 yr old grandson's stuffed dog from him ANYTIME they're not going to like the way he reacts.
NEWS FLASH! The same idiots who let people take box cutters onto those flights out of Boston are still working at TSA. Only now they are "highly paid" professionals. Bruno Napolitano said so.
How long will this go on if Madame Pelosi is subjected to it once a week now that she no longer has a USAF private jet?
NEWS FLASH! Prior to the events of 9/11, Joe Foss refused a 'pat down'. At the time he was over 80 yrs old. Holder of the CMoH, past governor of the State of South Dakota, past president of the NRA. He didn't mind being 'wanded', but refused government intrusion of his person.
For every measure there is a counter measure. You can't import toner cartridges via air anymore. What product is next?
11. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:20 PM |
Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:20
12. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:25 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
When Bruno announces full strip and body cavity searches, galoob will be the first to volunteer. After all 'he consented when he purchased a ticket'.
Right galoob?
12. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:25 PM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:25
13. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 2:28 PM | Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
I don't get your comment, GarandFan, it's incoherent.
El Al has every right to have its own screening procedures, who argued against that?
NEWS FLASH to you: El Al searches everybody and their baggage, as well.
Are you proposing doing away with any airport screening and searches for everyone, or just Congressional Medal of Honor holders, ex-governors, or presidents of the NRA?
13. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 2:28 PM |
Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:28
14. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:31 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Oh, and galoob, explain those "professionals" to the stacked blond, among 30 passengers getting onto a flight.
GUESS which passenger got 'randomly selected' for a full pat-down? HINT: It wasn't the 72 year old grandmother.
14. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:31 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:31
15. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:34 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
"Are you proposing doing away with any airport screening and searches for everyone, or just Congressional Medal of Honor holders, ex-governors, or presidents of the NRA?"
I'm suggesting we use El Al's method of screening passengers. In case you are unaware of the system, their people walk up to you and engage you in conversation. They ask pointed questions. Based on your responses you may/may not be subject to further 'search' of your person. But as I pointed out. We don't do that. That's PROFILING!
15. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:34 PM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:34
16. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:40 PM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Don't forget. The same government that sanctioned and ran the "Tuskegee Experiments" is the same one saying full body scans are perfectly safe. Even for air crews.
My brother works for the government and flies all over the country about 40 times each year. Even he's thinking of telling his boss that he doesn't want to be irradiated that often.
16. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:40 PM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:40
17. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 2:43 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Oh, and galoob, explain those "professionals" to the stacked blond, among 30 passengers getting onto a flight. GUESS which passenger got 'randomly selected' for a full pat-down?
I'm sure there are some butch bulldyke lesbians among the thousands of TSA workers, but you do know that females frisk females, right?
Stacked blondes have certain disadvantages in life. Getting traffic-stopped by police is probably another disadvantage, along with being stared at constantly. I suppose there are advantages, too, like being able to marry a lot of money.
If homosexual groping is your TSA fear, it should be reassuring that, as an old guy, you will get a pass in favor of some ripped young guy.
17. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 2:43 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:43
18. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:49 PM | Score: 5 (9 votes cast)
Looks like some will be 'more equal' than others.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-caves-on-molesting-pilots.html
18. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 2:49 PM |
Score: 5 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 14:49
19. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 3:08 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Looks like some animals are going to be 'more equal' than others.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-caves-on-molesting-pilots.html
Since pilots always have the means of crashing the plane and are presumably trusted with not crashing it, exempting them makes sense to me.
Weren't people agitating to allow pilots to carry guns into the cockpit, too?
Oh yeah, GarandFan was among them:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/03/17/barack-obama-ending-progam-that-allows-pilots-to-carry-guns.php
Personally, I agreed with GarandFan's earlier comment - pilots should be trusted with guns. Since they can crash the plane without a bomb or gun, screening them has little purpose, too.
But I'm concerned about GarandFan. Is Alzheimer's setting in, that he doesn't remember what he wrote last year?
19. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 3:08 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 15:08
20. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 3:21 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
So what's your point galoob? They should be trusted.
So how about the air crew?
How about people who fly often? How about people undergoing Chemo?
Terrorists got rights at trail according to galoob. Whether it's convenient or not. The flying public - they can go fuck themselves.
That about sum it up?
20. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 3:21 PM |
Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 15:21
21. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 3:33 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
So what's your point galoob? They should be trusted.
So how about the air crew?
Are you saying pilots should not be screened? Oh, forgive me. I thought that when you used the "some animals are going to be 'more equal' than others" quote from Animal Farm you were complaining about pilots not being screened, and being "more equal than others." How could I have taken it that way?
Terrorists got rights at trail according to galoob. Whether it's convenient or not. The flying public - they can go fuck themselves.
That about sum it up?
Yeah, having to be frisked or go through a scanner when you fly is just like the government having the power to torture people and lock them up forever without any kind of trial.
21. Posted by galoob | November 15, 2010 3:33 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 15:33
22. Posted by R | November 15, 2010 4:12 PM | Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
The hysteria over these things is getting a bit ridiculous.
22. Posted by R | November 15, 2010 4:12 PM |
Score: -4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 16:12
23. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 4:44 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
21. Posted by galoob
You're head is so far up your ass, it's amazing you can breathe. See the next thread.
23. Posted by GarandFan | November 15, 2010 4:44 PM |
Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 16:44
24. Posted by Jay Tea | November 15, 2010 4:54 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
For the record, I wrote my piece about the scanning/groping before Rick wrote his... but set mine to publish later.
J.
24. Posted by Jay Tea | November 15, 2010 4:54 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 16:54
25. Posted by Steve Crickmore | November 15, 2010 5:42 PM | Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
My only comment is it worth it, particularly for the loss of ridership judging by all the negative, squeamish but in many case humorous comments from another site on this topic? Maybe one solution to minimize the passenger's discomfort, is that the passenger could have a choice as to the sex of his groper?
25. Posted by Steve Crickmore | November 15, 2010 5:42 PM |
Score: -2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on November 15, 2010 17:42
26. Posted by tomg51 | November 16, 2010 9:09 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I see a comment of mine was removed.
Thank you.
I should not have posted it.
tomg51
26. Posted by tomg51 | November 16, 2010 9:09 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on November 16, 2010 09:09