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We are led by complete idiots

Kim Priestap sent this in email last night... and it's bat sh*t crazy stuff:

Note to terrorists: Next time, wear a hijab. The Department of Homeland Security reportedly is giving special exemptions to their "enhanced pat-down" policy to Muslim women wearing the hijab or other form-concealing garments.

Last week, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued a "travel advisory" noting that women who are patted down "should remind the TSA officer that they are only supposed to pat down the area in question, in this scenario, your head and neck. They SHOULD NOT subject you to a full-body or partial-body pat-down." It's unclear why CAIR believes TSA frisking must be Shariah-compliant. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to deny that such exemptions existed when CNS News asked her about them on Monday, saying instead that "adjustments will be made where they need to be made" and that "there will be more to come" on this issue.

3 year olds, nuns, 85 year old women and invalids are groped by the TSA but women in hijabs will get a pass.

The insane really are running the asylum.

In-freakin-credible. 


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Comments (53)

I'd be in favor of a waiver... (Below threshold)
James H:

I'd be in favor of a waiver ... of sorts. If a Muslim woman wearing hijab or abaya does not wish to be subjected to a search by a TSA security man ... she should be able to request a search by a TSA security woman.

But I don't think these invasive searches should be done to ANYBODY without just cause.

Am I missing something...or... (Below threshold)

Am I missing something...or should we ALL start wearing them to the airport? Maybe sell cheap disposable ones near the airport (like they sell $1 plastic ponchos), after you get through security you take 'em off and throw 'em away?

James H, pat downs are done... (Below threshold)
Maggie Mama:

James H, pat downs are done on a "same sex" basis already. CAIR is just pushing Sharia law.

Time to face the fact that we are not only at war with Muslim terrorists, we are in a cultural war with many Muslims right here in this country.

Mags:That was part... (Below threshold)
James H:

Mags:

That was part of my point, if I was a little oblique about it. That the accommodation already exists.

Personally, I'd get rid of the searches. My proposal is to dispense with the searches and give knives and tasers to all passengers except felons and suspected terrorists. Then, Mr. Underwear Bomber may have some thinking to do ..

James:"An armed so... (Below threshold)

James:

"An armed society is a polite society..."

J.

Hienlien FTW!... (Below threshold)
Dan Irving:

Hienlien FTW!

When an elderly nun or a th... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

When an elderly nun or a three-year-old child tries to bring down an airliner, maybe singling them out for a search would become justified.

We are doing an insane PC dance by pretending it isn't muslim men of Middle Eastern extraction who are the threat. So far, about the only threat on the airlines. Nuns and toddlers, not so much.

Screw appearances. If some people don't like being singled out, perhaps they should make the effort to clean the murderous barbarism out of their religion of peace, and the point will be moot.

I not willing to give up my... (Below threshold)

I not willing to give up my right to have everyone else flying with me searched or scanned.

My idea for these 'pat down... (Below threshold)
Harriett Williams:

My idea for these 'pat downs' is that all people should wear their bathing suits thru the security line. I plan to put my bathing suit on under a long coat and when I get to security I will take off the coat and go thru in my bathing suit (bikini) that way no one needs to touch me as you can SEE that I am not carrying anything on my body. Would love to see the reaction to that by the TSA.

OK ... one point of content... (Below threshold)
James H:

OK ... one point of contention. I don't think singling out only Arab men for searches is a good idea. Searching across ethnicities is the one part of this insanity I agree with.

Couple of points come to mind:

1) Don't think al-Qaida doesn't recognize the ethnicity issue ... and I would not be surprised if they actively try to recruit whites and so forth -- people who don't "look Muslim" -- to conduct terrorist operations.

2) A-Q isn't the only terrorist game out there, as Mister McVeigh can testify.

3) As much as terrorism is an issue, we also need to worry about random idiots. You know, the guy on the flight who gets in a fight with a stewardess and starts brandishing a knife or something. Take away his knife at the metal detectors, please.

This is all just a big smok... (Below threshold)
jvc:

This is all just a big smokescreen to cover up the fact the homeland security, border patrol, etc. have utterly failed at keeping potential (and actual) terrorists out of our country. If they were doing their jobs, we wouldn't have to worry about radical terrorists boarding airplanes. TSA and Big Sis have no problem trampling the rights and sensibilities of law-abiding Americans if it means increasing the Dem voter base through unchecked illegal immigration.

If they were doing... (Below threshold)
If they were doing their jobs, we wouldn't have to worry about radical terrorists boarding airplanes
...and just what is this job function that they are not doing. You must know, as you seem to know they are not doing it. Please elaborate. Give examples.
James H,Thanks for... (Below threshold)
jim m:

James H,

Thanks for the Canards. Why is it that people try to make themselves sound intelligent by trotting out this kind of crap?

Yes al Qaida has tried to recruit non-arabs for their acts. The shoe bomber was one of them. Only foolish libs cry about racial profiling like this. Everyone is aware that we must look at more than just the woman in the burka. The point is that we are sending a clear signal of who we WON'T search and that certain specific members of the muslim community are in that group. We are making the terrorist job easier.

Yes there are people like McVeigh out there. Your point is? How many acts of terrorism have been committed by people like him compared to muslims? Even in this country his one act is dwarfed numerically by the acts of muslims. The left love to drag him out as a reason not to do a decent job of containing the real threat.

Yes there are random lunatics. NOTHING can predict random. However, disarming the public is the best way to facilitate the random lunatic and that is what we are doing. Everything that the TSA does is bent on disarming and rendering vulnerable the average flier. That makes air travelers more vulnerable to the random idiot not less.

Your 3 points are not valid. Try again.

But I don't think ... (Below threshold)
But I don't think these invasive searches should be done to ANYBODY without just cause.
Did I miss something? Are body cavity searches being done that I haven't heard about? If not, then it isn't invasive. Part of the problem is drama queens overstating the current situation.

Can a TSA agent overstep their mission? Yes.
Should these cases be prosecutable? Yes. The cases were problems occur need to be addressed and better procedures need to be put in place.

Even Mpls/StP airport is st... (Below threshold)
gary gulrud:

Even Mpls/StP airport is studying private contract. The bottom line takes precedence over Euphorian party line.

We Are Led By Complete Idio... (Below threshold)
epador:

We Are Led By Complete Idiots

And you JUST figured this out?

Every day, it looks more an... (Below threshold)
alanstorm:

Every day, it looks more and more like the authorization of nuclear weapons in the DC theater of operations is the only way to excise the infection.

We already know that they're idiots - it's really unnecessary of them to keep demonstrating it.

"The cases were problems oc... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"The cases were problems occur need to be addressed and better procedures need to be put in place."

Yep, called the 2012 election cycle.

As for airport 'security', the phrase may become overworn, it's Kabuki Theater. A guy on a 'Watch List' is allowed to board a plane overseas. Another in this country almost gets on a plane to leave, isn't stopped by airport security - but by the FBI who are tracking him down. How many times are airports 'evacuated' because some idiot jumped a line?

No one in government wants to address the real issue of LOOKING AT PEOPLE. To do so would require hiring intelligent people to begin with. TSA doesn't need that. Their policy is "One size fits all". No thinking required.

Good article about a layered defense, as opposed to the US model that begins in the screening area.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother

Since the TSA response to anything is always a day late and a dollar short, you'd better damned well hope that a bomber doesn't show up somewhere with a bomb up their ass. Because if they do, you can bet the next 'enhancement' from Bruno Napalitano will be - "Strip, now bend over and spread 'em".

As for the new full body scans, just color me skeptical about something that was 'rushed' into the field. Given the government's current credibility rating - if they say it's raining outside - I'll go look.

I think this is all being u... (Below threshold)
TexBob:

I think this is all being used to push for a national biometric ID card.

I'd have not problem with t... (Below threshold)

I'd have not problem with the Israelification of the process, GarandFan. If that takes the next election cycle to improve the process then so be it. Too many others complain about the TSA and airports not doing their job without offering any real tenable alternatives. I agree with the article's statement that profiling isn't bad, especially when its behavioral and not racial profiling.

As for the new full body... (Below threshold)
TexBob:

As for the new full body scans, just color me skeptical about something that was 'rushed' into the field. Given the government's current credibility rating - if they say it's raining outside - I'll go look.

Considering former Homeland Security Clown, Chertoff is tied to Rapidscan, the whole situation smells of graft and corruption.

The government needs to return all the rapidscan units for a refund of taxpayer money. Let Chertoff sell them on eBay.

"I think this is all being ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"I think this is all being used to push for a national biometric ID card."

Won't happen. For some reason, people in the US oppose the idea - especially 'progressives'. Which is kind of odd, given their worship of anything European. I don't know of a country over there that doesn't have a national ID card. And you better damned well carry it whenever you're out and about.

"I agree with the article's statement that profiling isn't bad, especially when its behavioral and not racial profiling."

People hear the word 'profile' and they go ballistic. IIRC, it was the NJ State Police who started it to interdict drug runners from Florida. Majority of runners were black males in their early 20's. The vehicles were all rental cars out of Florida (and Florida is one of the few states that has a specific license plate pattern for rentals). Using that information, they stopped and searched - what do you know - their success rate was in the 90% range. Only problem - Constitutional issues.

Well don't we want a "HIGH SUCCESS RATE" when checking out would-be passengers on airplanes?

I like the Israelification.... (Below threshold)
James H:

I like the Israelification. I like it a lot. It's effective without being overly intrusive and as described in that article it's nondiscriminatory.

My only issue: Is it feasible to implement in US airports? We have a much larger system of airports than Israel does. Can we train enough TSA agents to do the job effectively?

"I think this is all being ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"I think this is all being used to push for a national biometric ID card."

I can see that if they were to expand and encourage people to participate in the Trusted Traveler program.

Of course, as far as the Trusted Traveler program goes it has to rely upon FBI background checks and those have already been politicized so you can't necessarily trust them either. They gave background checks to a number of middle eastern people at my place of work and those individuals ended up giving uncontrolled access to restricted areas in the building to unscreened people.

That is to say they gave un... (Below threshold)
jim m:

That is to say they gave unrestricted access to areas of the building containing radioactive isotopes, the very areas these individuals had to undergo background checks to get access to in the first place.

More info from the horses m... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

More info from the horses mouth, so to speak.

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-interviews-former-el-al-security-chief

"Is it feasible to implement in US airports?"

Sure it is. But first you have to hire intelligent people - FROM THE TOP DOWN.

Using that criteria, Bruno "The System Worked" Napalitano would be the first to go.

El Al's system didn't pop up overnight. It evolved and is still evolving from 'lessons learned'. Case in point, a guy comes into the airport and starts shooting at a United Airlines counter - result: Bloodbath. Try that at an El Al counter: They shoot back.

Our current problem is that we have 'leaders' who only re-act.

Forget about terrorists- it... (Below threshold)
kevin:

Forget about terrorists- its time for all of us, man and woman, to wear Hijabs to the airport.

If they question you about your religion or gender, get indignant- if you're a man, they can't question your right to self identify as a woman. and questioning your religion is profiling!

I figured it would only be a matter of time before the logical fallacies of political correctness collapsed upon themselves.

"I figured it would only be... (Below threshold)
jim m:

"I figured it would only be a matter of time before the logical fallacies of political correctness collapsed upon themselves."

I would agree with that except the people who believe in political correctness will lack the logic capabilities to understand that it has collapsed.

If logic collapses at the TSA and no one has any logic to perceive that collapse, has it really collapsed?

Harriett,We'll hav... (Below threshold)
ODA315:

Harriett,

We'll have to ask you to please post several (ie "many") photos of you in your bikini before we can agree with you assumption :)

Sure it is. But fi... (Below threshold)
Sure it is. But first you have to hire intelligent people - FROM THE TOP DOWN.
Which also implies more than minimal wage. (What does the typical TSA person get paid?) Of course, given the current economy there may be plenty of intelligent professional people forced to work for minimal wages.
Can we train enough TSA agents to do the job effectively?
I think we can train enough, the question is are we really willing to pay for it.
Rodney Dill"I not ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Rodney Dill

"I not willing to give up my right to have everyone else flying with me searched or scanned.

"

That is a right? SINCE WHEN? Where is that written in the constituion? Since you feel it is a right at the airport then how about the freeway? Do you have a right to have everyone searched there? Schools? The Mall?

Meanwhile if you are a ter... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Meanwhile if you are a terrorist of Hispanic consent the feds give you free passage over the Mexican border.

BTW Rodney Profling terror... (Below threshold)
retired military:

BTW Rodney Profling terrorist suspects would catch more terrorists than body scans ever will.

Profiling criminals works every time it is tried.

I'm glad I dont fly. These ... (Below threshold)
914:

I'm glad I dont fly. These idiots have already shown how competent they are with the economy.

Bending over to muslims is Barry's speciality. 2012 cant come soon enough.

It just gets better and bet... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

It just gets better and better:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101118/ap_on_re_us/us_miami_airport_skycaps

Terrorists don't even need to go through security. Just buy off a sky-cap.

Rodney DillQuestio... (Below threshold)
retired military:

Rodney Dill

Question

Should school administrators and police be able to search school lockers without a warrant for guns, bombs, etc?

After all there have been more guns and bombs used at schools in the past 10 years than on US AIr flights.

These upscaled searches and... (Below threshold)
Big Mo:

These upscaled searches and gropes are pointless because 1) lack of serious attention paid to the type of men who perform 99.99% of all terrorism in the world today, and 2) there isn't a test created that a clever man can't get around.

It's not muslim women weari... (Below threshold)
Constitution First:

It's not muslim women wearing hijab I worry about, it's muslim men dressing up as muslim women wearing hijab I worry about.

You know, if I thought of it, they've thought of it, and already made plans...

That is a right? S... (Below threshold)
That is a right? SINCE WHEN? Where is that written in the constitution?
Nyuk, nyuk... I think its written as a right there, right with Obamacare and Social Security. I thought that would get a rise out of someone sooner. Just threw that out as my way of stating I don't give someone else's level of discomfort much value, over my overall level of safety. (Given we put in security procedures that really worked).

I hadn't realized the TSA was doing searches of people at schools, the freeway, and the Mall. When someone at Wizbang blogs about that I'll give my opinion then.

Of course this means we sho... (Below threshold)
darkeden:

Of course this means we should all put on hijabs right before going through the checkpoint. could make a nice business selling cheap disposable 'hijabs' in a kiosk right before the checkpoint.

Should school admi... (Below threshold)
Should school administrators and police be able to search school lockers without a warrant for guns, bombs, etc?
I think you forgot drugs too. My wife works a school. They do reserve the right to search lockers, and they do, without a search warrant and sometimes without the police. ...and yes, I think that is OK. It's the schools property (public property) the students should have no expectation of privacy there as they could in their home.
BTW Rodney Profling terrorist suspects would catch more terrorists than body scans ever will.

Profiling criminals works every time it is tried


I thought I said I agreed with profiling...


could make a nice ... (Below threshold)
could make a nice business selling cheap disposable 'hijabs' in a kiosk right before the checkpoint.
...but that would be just taking a cheap hijab at the TSA's security procedures.
The real irony is that the ... (Below threshold)
Tsar Nicholas II:

The real irony is that the people who voted for Obama are so brain dead they won't even be able to figure out the irony.

What surprises me is that n... (Below threshold)
PapaWhisky:

What surprises me is that nobody even thinks of the literally hundreds of people who have access to the airplanes. The ticket agents, fuelers, mechanics, baggage handlers, and a myriad of others all have access to that side of the ramp simply by walking through the back door. None of these people walk through the porn machine or get the opportunity to receive an unsatisfying groping.

The cattle line you stand in is a facade--only there to make the sheep "feel" safe. There are so many holes in the system that to plug them up would cost so much and require so many more government "rules" that it would stop the industry as a whole.

So go ahead, oh so wise and glorious government, and feel up the grannies, kids, and pilots who, after all, you've stopped from crashing the plane because they had a bottle of soda and a pen knife--not to mention a --*gasp*-- fire axe in the cockpit....

Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do.
~~Robert A. Heinlein

Excellent point, PapaWhisky... (Below threshold)
RKemp:

Excellent point, PapaWhisky.

So, now we explain to our c... (Below threshold)
Clay:

So, now we explain to our children, "Remember that no stranger can touch or see your private area...well...er...unless it's a government employee...then it's OK...I guess."

Maybe it's time we 'Alinsky... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Maybe it's time we 'Alinsky' the TSA:

#4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The 'progressives' like to use Alinksy to their ends. Be poetic justice to use it against them.

My point being, we've gone WAY BEYOND "unreasonable".

What surprises me ... (Below threshold)
What surprises me is that nobody even thinks of the literally hundreds of people who have access to the airplanes.
How do you know they aren't thinking about it? It certainly is a risk when its handled incorrectly, and I'm sure there have been errors in how the 'staff' get handled, but so say its not being thought about is probably over the top. Just the beginning of November a flight crew got to cut in from of me and my wife to go through the same security screening process passengers were going through.
How do you know th... (Below threshold)
PapaWhisky:
How do you know they aren't thinking about it? It certainly is a risk when its handled incorrectly, and I'm sure there have been errors in how the 'staff' get handled, but so say its not being thought about is probably over the top.

Actually, they are thinking about it. The benevolent Homeland Security, that is. I was talking about us--the unwashed masses. Don't hold your breath waiting for a statement from any government entity to open up that can of worms, though.

Just the beginning of November a flight crew got to cut in from of me and my wife to go through the same security screening process passengers were going through.

So is this a good thing or a bad thing? A good thing because perhaps were worried about a pilot with a pen knife, or a bad thing because "how dare the actual flight crew cut in line because they have to get on the airplane first before we can actually go anywhere?"

Obama is talking with the t... (Below threshold)
Joel:

Obama is talking with the terrorist, he believes the terrorist will stop if we let them bomb someplace in the US. So, he is thinking where to let them bomb us.

So is this a good ... (Below threshold)
So is this a good thing or a bad thing? A good thing because perhaps were worried about a pilot with a pen knife, or a bad thing because "how dare the actual flight crew cut in line because they have to get on the airplane first before we can actually go anywhere?"
To me it was intuitive that the flight crews would get to jump on line. In general I think it was a good thing that they go through the security process. Do you really think people are worried about Pilots with a pen knife? If I was responsible for thinking about such things I would be worried about someone posing as a pilot or a flight crew and using that status to bypass security altogether with designs more devious than giving me a nasty cut with a pen knife.
If I was responsib... (Below threshold)
PapaWhisky:
If I was responsible for thinking about such things I would be worried about someone posing as a pilot or a flight crew and using that status to bypass security altogether with designs more devious than giving me a nasty cut with a pen knife.

Ever see exactly how closely the TSA examine a crewmember's ID? And if it were examined closely, then why must he/she go through the porn machine or receive the gratuitous groping? Truth be told, there's a little mini-war between the pilots and the TSA. They both intensely dislike each other. The pilots for having to go through this crap almost every time they go through an airport (several times daily for many), and the TSA, for want of better words, for needing to exert their power over any who dare question their authority.

Enter "Crew-Pass"--a system of biometrically identifying crewmembers that has been being fought for for about the last 10 years by ALPA and other unions (I am NOT a union supporter.) It is still a long ways off and being "tested" but thanks to the current kerfuffle about screening it seems to have risen on the list. While this may at least partially solve this particular avenue of discussion (pilots/TSA), it will undoubtedly lead to a "if they can do it then why can't we" -- which will inevitably lead to the debate about National ID's and the implications thereof....

I digress. If I were responsible for thinking about such things I might have a position with Homeland Security. Blech. In less than 30 seconds--literally--I came up with a way to absolutely shut down a whole airport in an instant. Twenty more seconds and I figured out a way that someone and several likeminded people could shut down the whole nation's airports for days or weeks--and it would be using TSA's methods against them. I seriously thought twice about typing the last two sentences (maybe should've been thrice)--but as someone above alluded to, if it was so easy for me surely the bad guys thought of it a long time ago. The last thing I need is for the FBI to show up at my door--but seriously, simple is sometimes the best method.

I'm no conspiracy nut (although, sadly, the last paragraph might make one think otherwise) but if anyone thinks going through the cattle line and getting the grope-a-dope has made them safer...well, then, at least they've gotten to the place where they've been led.

.... The insane really are ... (Below threshold)

.... The insane really are running the asylum ....

Make that the criminally insane.

Activists of the "Democratic" National Socialist Workers' and Gangsters' Fascist Party have had their hands on the levers of every level of government power for so long they have not only treasonously imported and have at their back a thirty or forty million man criminal alien army but have also Trojan Horsed in and have in place the psychopathologically hesperophobic seed soldiers of the barbarically Islamanazi hordes that intend the total destruction of our nation -- and of the very Judeo-Christian/Western/Human Civilization our willing sacrifices of blood and of treasure have for so long sustained.

So, for sure, make that criminally insane!




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