Vanderleun writes of his encounters with those practicing evil, either ignorantly or wilfully:
They've come twice in the last day. They're kids out running "a raise money for NARAL" scam. They get a cut of anything they pull in, and they use any info they get to sell to Planned Parenthood or other death mills.
They're pleasant and they are enthusiastic (I love the painting! I really admire the tree!) and they hand you the clipboard expecting you to sign in your enthusiasm to support their "work."
I listen and then I tell them, "No, I don't support what you're doing or the people and causes that you represent. I think it's evil for you to do this, and worse still to do it for money."
Here in Seattle's Queen Anne, where smiles, nods and signups for their scam are their usual rewards, they seem genuinely surprised and taken aback.
"You mean you're not pro-choice?"
I assure them that I am not even if though, long ago, I was.
There's more and it's a good read.
I was pro-choice once... nominally so... more like simply apathetic as I didn't care one way or the other. But then the missus became pregnant... and I saw the ultrasound, heard the heartbeat, felt the baby moving in her womb... and it changed me... but never more firmly then at the moment my first-born came into the world.
I think before anyone has an abortion, they should be exposed to these things... the ultrasound, the heartbeat, the movement in the womb and then finally, a real live birth.
If after all that they still want an abortion, consider them evil.
Seriously so.



Comments (14)
I too was pro-choice until ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by sarahconnor2 | December 19, 2010 9:33 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
I too was pro-choice until my first pregnancy and I had a miscarriage scare. One of the most glorious moments of my life was going in and seeing the heartbeat and realizing my baby to be was alive. Since then, my attitude is "Everyone has the choice whether they're going to hell or not." It's a life, people, no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise.
1. Posted by sarahconnor2 | December 19, 2010 9:33 PM |
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Posted on December 19, 2010 21:33
2. Posted by John F Not Kerry | December 19, 2010 9:53 PM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Rick, that is why Planned Parenthood and other abortion pushers will fight tooth and nail to prevent the construction or startup of a crisis pregnancy clinic, especially if they have an ultrasound. Statistics show that most abortion-minded women will change their mind when they see their baby (even in beginning stages) on an ultrasound.
2. Posted by John F Not Kerry | December 19, 2010 9:53 PM |
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Posted on December 19, 2010 21:53
3. Posted by Woody | December 19, 2010 10:04 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Rick, wonderfully stated. Those who experience precisely those things fully understand just how precious each of those lives is. Thank you.
3. Posted by Woody | December 19, 2010 10:04 PM |
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Posted on December 19, 2010 22:04
4. Posted by Tsar Nicholas II | December 19, 2010 10:29 PM | Score: 5 (9 votes cast)
Leftists are all about 'choice.' Unless of course the choices in question relate to such items as health insurance mandates, or to private school vouchers, or charter schools, or possessing and carrying guns, or landlords being able to charge market rents, or businesses being able to choose the wages they pay or the benefits they provide, or sovereign states being able to choose capital punishment or to exploit offshore energy reserves or to award contracts without regard to race or gender.
To a leftist, then, it would appear that the efficacy of 'choice' depends on whether or not they agree with the potential choices.
4. Posted by Tsar Nicholas II | December 19, 2010 10:29 PM |
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Posted on December 19, 2010 22:29
5. Posted by GarandFan | December 19, 2010 10:45 PM | Score: 0 (6 votes cast)
You had a 'choice' at conception.
5. Posted by GarandFan | December 19, 2010 10:45 PM |
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Posted on December 19, 2010 22:45
6. Posted by JLawson | December 20, 2010 2:07 AM | Score: 0 (6 votes cast)
"To a leftist, then, it would appear that the efficacy of 'choice' depends on whether or not they agree with the potential choices."
Tsar, that's been evident a long time.
Myself? I'm pro-choice... but I don't like the choice. I was more or less pro-choice before the little guy was born - but when we found out he was on the way, all of a sudden things changed. When I held him when he was 15 minutes old, he looked up at me with big eyes as if to go "Well - I'm not sure what just happened, but so far so good." It's just hard to explain how you feel at that point.
Now - I don't like the idea of abortion, but yet I support the woman's right to choose whether or not she wants to get one. I don't believe that I have any right to control what she does or doesn't do.
That I may not like her choice isn't an issue. I think abortion's a terrible thing - but the person who needs one for what seems to them compelling and sufficient reasons may not. What's important to me is that she have that choice - and denying her that choice doesn't, in my mind, lead to a freer country.
What has to be emphasized is that with freedoms come responsibility. That's not being done.
Other people's mileage may vary on that - but so it goes.
6. Posted by JLawson | December 20, 2010 2:07 AM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 02:07
7. Posted by epador | December 20, 2010 9:19 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
I took a friend (not a girlfriend) to her abortion, and the emotions she ran through before and after were enough to extinguish any notions that this was anything other than the taking of a life. Losing two children to miscarriage personalized this concept of life before birth. The denial necessary to believe otherwise runs strong in those well-practiced in denial of many other aspects of reality.
7. Posted by epador | December 20, 2010 9:19 AM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 09:19
8. Posted by Will | December 20, 2010 9:43 AM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
To still forever the beat of a human heart without Great cause is Evil.
8. Posted by Will | December 20, 2010 9:43 AM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 09:43
9. Posted by BluesHarper | December 20, 2010 10:17 AM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
I've never been able to figure out why doctors perform abortions. What kind of human does it take to do that? How do they sleep at night?
9. Posted by BluesHarper | December 20, 2010 10:17 AM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 10:17
10. Posted by Eric | December 20, 2010 1:05 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Rick,
I had a similar ephiphany. I was pro-choice in that I really didn't care one way or the other. Then at my daughter's ultrasound she kept squirming around and wouldn't hold still while they tried to get a look. Just as obstinate then as now. At one point the technician said something I'll never forget, "sometimes they don't like the sound".
At that moment it occurred to me that you have to have a certain amount of cognition to like or dislike something. She was clearly trying to get away from the sound. At that moment I became pro-life.
10. Posted by Eric | December 20, 2010 1:05 PM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 13:05
11. Posted by hcddbz | December 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
I believe in choice if it is defined. Do you want the choice to kill a human being without due process? People talk about protecting innocent children but when they are most vulnerable we want the capricious decision to end life.
However the term EVIL has to be given to those who practice partial birth abortion like in Chicago where they take children and leave them to die in closets for over 6 hours.
11. Posted by hcddbz | December 20, 2010 3:49 PM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 15:49
12. Posted by gaius piconius | December 20, 2010 4:20 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
All good and meaningful comments, but the one that strikes me as the stand out is the one less widely considered...the, 'Why, What and How' of Blues-Harper # 9. Although I am pretty well agnostic, I am far from being at war with the Messiah or Moses...but that state of mind notwithstanding...just what is it that can make a parent or physician accepting of harm to what is, unarguably, a tiny, tiny infant! How can that not be classified, EVIL?
12. Posted by gaius piconius | December 20, 2010 4:20 PM |
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Posted on December 20, 2010 16:20
13. Posted by meh | December 24, 2010 1:17 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
"consider them evil."
Funny, that's just what I think of people who view women as nothing more then ambulatory gestation tanks.
13. Posted by meh | December 24, 2010 1:17 PM |
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Posted on December 24, 2010 13:17
14. Posted by cillycilia | January 5, 2011 3:27 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
If you don't want an abortion don't have one. If you do want one you shouldn't be forced to have it in some motel room with a coat hanger.
What's amazing to me is the utter lack of compassion people have. Instead of thinking about the woman all they can do is think about that tiny, possibly MALE fetus. Because that's what's really important. Woman are after all, just as "meh" pointed out, just "ambulatory gestation tanks". Does anyone realize how hard it is for women to make the choice to have abortions? The fact is most pro-lifers aren't actually pro-life. They don't support clinics that provide pre-natal vitamins to women who can't afford them, or health care for women who need it to have safe healthy pregnancies. They don't support birth control and proper, medically accurate sex education (which encourages abstinence but also provides information about safe sex when teens are ready and prevention for STDs), things that are PROVEN to help lessen the number of abortions. All they can think is "Well that woman wanted nothing more than to murder a baby". There is so much more to it than that.
14. Posted by cillycilia | January 5, 2011 3:27 AM |
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Posted on January 5, 2011 03:27