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12 Shot in Arizona, Including Congresswoman


[ BREAKING ] U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords was shot and killed today at a constituent meeting at a Tucson grocery store.  At least eleven Eighteen other people were shot; their conditions, the identity of the shooter, and any reason for the shooting are as yet unknown unclear.

Through CNN, and developing ...

May God rest Rep. Giffords and give comfort to look after and comfort her family in this tragic time.

 

** UPDATE - sorry for the delay, was out of contact most of the afternoon and evening.  Rep. Giffords is thankfully alive, but unfortunately many others are not.  On a personal note, is this really a time to focus on politics and old arguments, instead of real people?  I would not wish this on anyone I can think of, and would hope we could keep the family in focus and maintan some humane perspective (DJD) **

 


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Oh, great. Some nutjob doe... (Below threshold)

Oh, great. Some nutjob does this and the Democrats will no doubt blame all conservatives, particularly those affiliated with the Tea Party.

Good grief. This is the fir... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Good grief. This is the first I've heard of it. My condolences. God go with the families.

Fox News has backtracked on... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Fox News has backtracked on the report that she has died. Three different sources are now saying that she is in critical condition and is currently in surgery. For details will be available as they come in.

The nutcases are now blamin... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

The nutcases are now blaming Sarah Palin for the death saying that Giffords was on her "target map."

Violence of this sort is wh... (Below threshold)
Paul Hooson:

Violence of this sort is wholly unacceptable in a free society. Both political parties have some representatives in government who care about policies they believe are good for society as a whole.

The best government is a balance of views and opinions.

So is Representative Gabrie... (Below threshold)
John S:

So is Representative Gabrielle Giffords' district in the part of Arizona controlled by the United States? Or part of the war zone controlled by Mexico? I hear she is (was) a strong opponent of illegal immigration. Mr. President, it is time to recall one million troops stationed overseas, and use them to militarize our southern border.

Yeah Jinx, 'cause we all kn... (Below threshold)
fixer:

Yeah Jinx, 'cause we all know it was a democrat plant and not a violent teabagger.

Fixer, for all you fricking... (Below threshold)

Fixer, for all you fricking know it could've been an illegal immigrant upset with her stance on border security. If you have any proof that this was a "violent teabagger" (a proven myth, btw, mindlessly perpetuated by braindead liberals like yourself), present it. Otherwise, shut the hell up.

Latest is that she... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Latest is that she is alive, critical in hospital.

The shooter is in custody, no more info forthcoming.

Care to make a gentlemans w... (Below threshold)
fixer:

Care to make a gentlemans wager on that Jinxie? If you win I'll state on wizbang, that I am a worthless troll and you are the master of the universe, and if I win you do the same.

And are you saying there are zero violent teabaggers? Because I didn't say all teabaggers were violent, just this one (that we know of.)

I think that many would be ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

I think that many would be best suited to STFU about the motives of the shooter until more is known lest they remove all doubt about their lack of sense.

May God be with those injured and their families.

Suggest the specul... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Suggest the speculation about motive identification, etc be put on hold until this gets sorted out. There's more than enough misinformation already out right now.

Heavy prayers to all affected in this tragedy, please add yours, people.

The most recent reports say... (Below threshold)

The most recent reports say police say there might have been a second gunman. They also say that 19 were shot, five killed.

That, to me, says "automatic weapon." And two gunmen with automatic weapons in that particular area of the world? Gunmen shooting government officials?

I'm thinking "act of war" by Mexican drug cartel.

But it's all way, way too soon.

fixer, you're going to tone it down. With or without help.

J.

You see, fixer, the differe... (Below threshold)

You see, fixer, the difference between someone like me -- not a Tea Partier, but I'm somewhat supportive of them -- and someone like you is that I don't use tragedies like this to denigrate people of the opposite political persuasion or "make a gentlemans[sic] wager" on such things. "Gentleman's wager." What irony! What true gentleman would make any kind of wager over such a tragedy. You, sir, are a heartless, disgusting monster. Take your phony "gentleman's wager" and shove it up the same orifice where you keep your head.

"Yeah Jinx, 'cause we al... (Below threshold)
John S:

"Yeah Jinx, 'cause we all know it was a democrat plant and not a violent teabagger."

Well, actually, under that theory, the gunman would be working for the Obama administration to justify a security crackdown and brutal suppression of dissent (to the administration).

Or maybe he's just a random nut job.

I'm sorry for pursuing this... (Below threshold)

I'm sorry for pursuing this troll, Jay, but people like this need their sorry behinds handed to them. I will back off if you want.

Given the fact that they ar... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Given the fact that they are now saying that the gunman was going up to people (including a child) shooting them in the head, I would conclude that the person who did this is clearly unhinged and unlikely to represent any political viewpoint with any degree of reasonable accuracy.

Wow, Mr Tea, is EVERYTHING ... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

Wow, Mr Tea, is EVERYTHING an "act of war" with you now?

The Wikileaks leaks were an act of war. The congresswoman getting shot was an act of war. Organized crime hits are acts of war.

And wasn't it you who said the other day that Democrats who failed to pass a budget should be charged with treason? Or am I attributing that particular stupid remark to you mistakenly?

Talk about needing to tone it down!

Good news:<a href=... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:
Assassination (or attempted... (Below threshold)

Assassination (or attempted assassination) of a government official in retaliation for her official duties, by foreign nationals acting in service to a group attempting to overthrow a foreign government, Bruce? You got a better definition?

Jinx, I'm not arguing with the need to stomp down on stuff like that -- just saying that I have a much bigger boot.

Or, if necessary, hammer.

J.

Okay, Jay. Thanks. I just... (Below threshold)

Okay, Jay. Thanks. I just didn't want to step on the toes in that boot.

"I don't use tragedies like... (Below threshold)
fixer:

"I don't use tragedies like this to denigrate people of the opposite political persuasion."

Except that your first comment, THE first comment on this thread, was political in nature by implying that Democrats will blame ALL conservatives for this, which is just stupid.


And as far as heartless monsters go, you need look no further than your pal Jay Tea, who positively hyperventilates with glee whenever he hears of another dead Kennedy.

Look, I don't blame you for not wanting to enter into a bet that you know you're going to lose, but all you had to do was say no.

Shooter identified as Jared... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Shooter identified as Jared Laughtner, 22YO white male.

Speculation as to motive is pointless until some facts are known. We know nothing at this point and the finger pointing is stupid.

About time to ban fixer... (Below threshold)
jim m:

About time to ban fixer

Giffords alive after surger... (Below threshold)

Giffords alive after surgery. One child around 9 confirmed dead.

Youngest victim is 9 years ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Youngest victim is 9 years old.

I think we can now dispense with the notion that this person was anything other than seriously disturbed. Politically motivated people don't go shooting 9YO girls in the head to make their point.

My initial comment has been... (Below threshold)

My initial comment has been proven 100% correct through posts on DailyKos, Democrat Underground and other left-wing websites. Democrats ARE blaming conservatives and ARE mentioning Tea Partiers by name. You yourself proved me 100% right. The fact that you are still pushing for your disgusting, opportunistic, cold-hearted "bet" just proves how much of an ass you are, fixer, and I'm not playing along with your games.

<a href="http://azstarnet.c... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Photo of shooter.

He "doesn't look" like a killer. The banality of evil is often striking.

So, Mr Tea, is Jared Laught... (Below threshold)
Bruce Henry:

So, Mr Tea, is Jared Laughtner, 22 year old white male, a "foreign national acting in service to a group attempting to overthrow a foreign government?"

How did you jump to that conclusion? Was it because of your experience as a forensic detective, that told you that indubitably your hypothesis of a Mexican drug cartel being the guilty party was correct?

"It is to laugh," as Pepe LePew would say.

If it wasn't such a tragic situation, I'd say it was amusing watching the rabble try to calm the rouser.

<a href="http://www.youtube... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

YouTube channel of shooter, where he rants about "the new currency" "government officials" "mind control" and "brainwashing," among other things.

Not sure if this is the sho... (Below threshold)
Chip:

Not sure if this is the shooter, but if it is, this one sounds like a nutjob.

Youtube channel for Jared Lee Loughner

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

he also lists Mein Kampf as... (Below threshold)
jim m:

he also lists Mein Kampf as one of his favorite books.

He has a flag-burning video... (Below threshold)

He has a flag-burning video favorited. Can't recall any Tea Partiers or other conservatives burning flags other than to dispose of them propertly. That's typically left-wing territory.

One of his videos plays "Le... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

One of his videos plays "Let the bodies hit the flo" while he burns the American flag.

Sound like a "tea partier" to you? Didn't think so.

@jim m: As well as the Comm... (Below threshold)

@jim m: As well as the Communist Manifesto.

Yeah I missed that on the f... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Yeah I missed that on the first run through. He also lists a bunch of children's books. Clearly a disturbed individual.

Title of video:"Am... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Title of video:

"America, Your Last Memory in a Terrorist Country."

Looking more and more like a leftist nutjob. Probably a Sheehan disciple.

Bruce, see latest update. I... (Below threshold)

Bruce, see latest update. I've retracted that theory. But this isn't Kos, so it won't get flushed. I own my errors, I don't bury them.

J.

Psycho nut job.Lik... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Psycho nut job.

Liked Hitler and Communism
Likes burning the flag

Hates America
Hates immigrants who don't speak English
Hates paper money and wants the gold standard back

Not right. Not left. Not normal.

Didn't talk long for Jay Te... (Below threshold)
fixer's friend:

Didn't talk long for Jay Tea to blame it on the Mexicans because it's in Arizona and to attack the left for thinking they will blame it on the Jay Teabaggers.

Can't get past Palin's hit list: http://www.businessinsider.com/gabrielle-giffords-was-on-sarah-palins-hit-list-2011-1

Oh, look. Fixer set up a s... (Below threshold)

Oh, look. Fixer set up a sockpuppet.

Hey, fixer, can you get pas... (Below threshold)

Hey, fixer, can you get past the Democrats' hit lists?

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647

Two of them! (At the least!)

Jim M,Re: paper mo... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Jim M,

Re: paper money v. gold standard.

Where did you get that? He mention the "new currency." His words are virtually unintelligible. He refers to the currency as "information." You're taking him too literally. Whatever the case, he doesn't say anything about the "gold standard."

As for a supposed conflict between Hitler/Marx, there is none. Both are heroes of Statists and totalitarians everywhere.

Hello, my name is Jared Lee Loughner.

This video is my introduction to you! My favorite activity is conscience dreaming: the greatest inspiration for my political business information. Some of you don't dream - sadly.

Firstly, the current government officials are in power for their currency, but I'm informing you for your new currency! If you're treasurer of a new money system, then you're responsible for the distributing of a currency. We no know - the treasurer for a new money system, is the distributor of the new currency. As a result, the people approve a new money system which is promising new information that's accurate, and we truly believe in a new currency. Above all, you have your new currency, listener?

Secondly, my hope - is for you to be literate! If you're literate in English grammar, then you comprehend English grammar. The majority of people, who reside in District-8, are illiterate - hilarious. I don't control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.

Thirdly, I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly, all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen.

In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I'm conscience dreaming! Thank you!

If the youtube channel is r... (Below threshold)
Brett :

If the youtube channel is really him - this has nothing to do with politics, immigration, etc. He's just a plain old incoherent loony.

On Fox they read a comment ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

On Fox they read a comment from him about not wanting to use a currency that was not backed by gold.

I never meant to infer that there was a conflict between Nazism and communism. I agree with you that the only conflict is who wins the fight. They agree on most everything else.

jim m,I agree with... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

jim m,

I agree with you that the guy is a psycho nut job.

Nope, Jinx. "fixer's friend... (Below threshold)

Nope, Jinx. "fixer's friend" isn't fixer, he's "Marco Polo."

Knock it off, Marco. I ban people for shit like that. Pick a name and stick with it.

J.

Not fixer, but still a sock... (Below threshold)

Not fixer, but still a sock. I was half right, which is infinitely more right than these clowns ever will be.

Brucy, always counted on fo... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Brucy, always counted on for the snide, childish remarks he so often makes but dissappears when he is frequently proven wrong. JT, you are 10 times the man brucy is. ww

hahahahaha, yeah, ban me. ... (Below threshold)
Not Jay Tea's Bitch:

hahahahaha, yeah, ban me.

Brucy, always counted on... (Below threshold)
john:

Brucy, always counted on for the snide, childish remarks he so often makes

As opposed to repeatedly referring to someone named Bruce as "Brucy"? Sure is a good thing that can't be considered snide or childish. Otherwise you'd look like a real fool.

Dude, she lived through sur... (Below threshold)
Stew:

Dude, she lived through surgery. Please update the post




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