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Comments (37)
I understand they trying so... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Wayne | January 13, 2011 12:51 PM | Score: 18 (20 votes cast)
I understand they trying somewhat to “bring” us all together which is OK. However they also are pushing a liberal agenda of “it takes a village” and it can “only” be done as a community. Memorials are not a time to be pushing political agendas.
1. Posted by Wayne | January 13, 2011 12:51 PM |
Score: 18 (20 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 12:51
2. Posted by Wayne | January 13, 2011 12:56 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Sorry for my grammar once again.
2. Posted by Wayne | January 13, 2011 12:56 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 12:56
3. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 12:57 PM | Score: 11 (13 votes cast)
Actually I think it's because it's Arizona - hence there is a Hispanic influence.
Here in Kalifornia, whenever a gangbanger 'retires', they all show up at the funeral wearing "commemorative T-shirts", usually a picture of the deceased along with their gang moniker and the gang's name.
It's quite a quaint custom. Even the black gang members are doing it now.
3. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 12:57 PM |
Score: 11 (13 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 12:57
4. Posted by joh.n | January 13, 2011 12:57 PM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Totally inappropriate. Just like when France said "today we are all Americans" after 9/11. Why would anyone try to deal with a tragedy by bringing a community together and letting them know they're not alone?
4. Posted by joh.n | January 13, 2011 12:57 PM |
Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 12:57
5. Posted by clearmind | January 13, 2011 12:57 PM | Score: 12 (16 votes cast)
Hey, the t-shirts were a nice touch for a memorial service, don't you think?
Where were to pom-poms and the cheerleaders?
Did the scoreboard light-up with an audience poll score?
Almost got to the point that they reached at the Wellstone memorial!
For Obama it was just another campaign stop.
5. Posted by clearmind | January 13, 2011 12:57 PM |
Score: 12 (16 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 12:57
6. Posted by Carolyn | January 13, 2011 12:59 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Rather than spend money on an article of clothing,that will only be a constant reminder of a mass killing and I would think,never worn, perhaps an "adult" could have suggested the money establish a scholarship in the victims names instead. The t-shirts were paid for by the university, weren't they? T-shirts?
6. Posted by Carolyn | January 13, 2011 12:59 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 12:59
7. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 1:08 PM | Score: 12 (16 votes cast)
"...perhaps an "adult" could have suggested the money establish a scholarship in the victims names instead."
Carolyn, Carolyn, Carolyn.....silly girl! No one "see's" a scholarship! It's all about advertising and product placement. Perhaps the 2012 Campaign "theme" is being test floated.
7. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 1:08 PM |
Score: 12 (16 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 13:08
8. Posted by sam | January 13, 2011 1:14 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I think the t-shirts were appropriate for the Arizona Wildcats homecoming.
8. Posted by sam | January 13, 2011 1:14 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 13:14
9. Posted by Rich Fader | January 13, 2011 1:35 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
If you even have to ask...
9. Posted by Rich Fader | January 13, 2011 1:35 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 13:35
10. Posted by Kenny | January 13, 2011 1:54 PM | Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
No.
I agree with Wayne: Memorials are not a time to be pushing political agendas.
10. Posted by Kenny | January 13, 2011 1:54 PM |
Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 13:54
11. Posted by WildWillie | January 13, 2011 1:59 PM | Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Very bad form. Obama's "Mission Accomplished" moment. ww
11. Posted by WildWillie | January 13, 2011 1:59 PM |
Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 13:59
12. Posted by yttik | January 13, 2011 2:04 PM | Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
I thought it was really tacky. So are the bumper stickers. This wasn't a memorial, it was a campaign rally.
I'm confused, "Tuscon and America?" Isn't Tuscon already a part of America?
12. Posted by yttik | January 13, 2011 2:04 PM |
Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:04
13. Posted by Pretzel Logic | January 13, 2011 2:12 PM | Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
Sickening. I'm telling you I was slack jawed the entire time last night. This thing has David Pflough written all over it. Only thing missing was a fainting chick.
13. Posted by Pretzel Logic | January 13, 2011 2:12 PM |
Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:12
14. Posted by jim m | January 13, 2011 2:13 PM | Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
Tacky at best. Busing in college students who booed the governor was even worse. This wasn't as over the top as the Wellstone memorial. They are learning. Slowly.
Maybe someday they will learn how to behave in public.
14. Posted by jim m | January 13, 2011 2:13 PM |
Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:13
15. Posted by OregonMuse | January 13, 2011 2:31 PM | Score: 9 (13 votes cast)
Of course it's political theater. Saul Alinsky's fervent disciple Obama is not about to let this crisis/opportunity go to waste.
15. Posted by OregonMuse | January 13, 2011 2:31 PM |
Score: 9 (13 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:31
16. Posted by simkeith | January 13, 2011 2:34 PM | Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Together We Thrive. The campaign 2012 official Obama slogan. Just like Hope and Change, and Yes We Can!
This was appalling at best.
16. Posted by simkeith | January 13, 2011 2:34 PM |
Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:34
17. Posted by Dave in Alaska | January 13, 2011 2:39 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
..nothing new under the sun...
"I think George Washington was right when he said, in his 1796 Farewell Address, that political parties “are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.” He went on to argue:
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty."
http://pileusblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/washington-and-the-spirit-of-party/
17. Posted by Dave in Alaska | January 13, 2011 2:39 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:39
18. Posted by 914 | January 13, 2011 2:39 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
"Together We Thrive"?
A little bit too much like "Hope and Change" is it not?
You can repackage Barry all you want, but 2012 will see an end to his selfish Me first campaign.
18. Posted by 914 | January 13, 2011 2:39 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:39
19. Posted by 914 | January 13, 2011 2:46 PM | Score: 9 (11 votes cast)
Another thing. I find it extremely insulting that he take this opportunity to trial bubble a campaign slogan for 2012.
He has the nerve to think he can jive hustle another term after the disastrous joke of his first?
Barry's arrogance is mind boggling.
19. Posted by 914 | January 13, 2011 2:46 PM |
Score: 9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:46
20. Posted by TexBob | January 13, 2011 2:50 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Together, they are one collective massive sphincter.
20. Posted by TexBob | January 13, 2011 2:50 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:50
21. Posted by retired military | January 13, 2011 2:58 PM | Score: 11 (13 votes cast)
Appropriate for a political rally - Yes
Appropriate for a memorial service - No
21. Posted by retired military | January 13, 2011 2:58 PM |
Score: 11 (13 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 14:58
22. Posted by Pretzel Logic | January 13, 2011 3:05 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Very bad form. Obama's "Mission Accomplished" moment. ww_________________
I disagree. Many of us knew that sign was meant for that ships deployment, nothing more. The left has created a straw man from it. I love liberals faces when I have this discussion with them, they just fall in line with the MSM's meme every time.
22. Posted by Pretzel Logic | January 13, 2011 3:05 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:05
23. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 3:28 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Dave in Alaska:
Unfortunately, Washington was right. Even by the end of his 2nd Administration, the basis for political 'parties' had pretty much formed. There was even a threat posted in a newspaper - something to the effect that the person could not wait until (Inauguration Day) when MR WASHINGTON was no longer president. Then Andy Jackson came along and really pulled out the political knife "to the victors, belong the spoils".
23. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 3:28 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:28
24. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 3:37 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Oakland had a memorial service as well:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/01/12/word-salad-of-hate-at-oakland-vigil-for-tucson-victims/
24. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 3:37 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:37
25. Posted by BluesHarper | January 13, 2011 3:51 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
914, #17 & 18
I couldn't agree with you more and I hope like hell you're right, but stupid outnumbers logical, at least in my neck of the woods (MN).
25. Posted by BluesHarper | January 13, 2011 3:51 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:51
26. Posted by 914 | January 13, 2011 3:58 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
"but stupid outnumbers logical, at least in my neck of the woods (MN)."
This I know... I live in MN too.
26. Posted by 914 | January 13, 2011 3:58 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:58
27. Posted by BluesHarper | January 13, 2011 4:30 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Inappropriate.
Can't even rest in peace without that dikhed phuqing it up.
27. Posted by BluesHarper | January 13, 2011 4:30 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 16:30
28. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 13, 2011 5:16 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
So, next time a nutjob is weighing his options for immortality in public memory, he can add "people will wear t-shirts, handed out by the White House, to commemorate my actions!" to the should assassinate column.
28. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 13, 2011 5:16 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 17:16
29. Posted by Andy | January 13, 2011 6:03 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
So, next time a nutjob is weighing his options for immortality in public memory, he can add "people will wear t-shirts, handed out by the White House, to commemorate my actions!" to the should assassinate column.
This!
29. Posted by Andy | January 13, 2011 6:03 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 18:03
30. Posted by darcy | January 13, 2011 6:11 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
I feel for the families - they had to endure 2 crimes. One violent and senseless the other tasteless and insensitive.
30. Posted by darcy | January 13, 2011 6:11 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 18:11
31. Posted by epador | January 13, 2011 6:16 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I'd call this a Petra moment. It's really high art after all. Its supposed to shock normal society as it confronts taboos. Really folks, its just above your IQ grade, so don't be upset you can't understand it.
\sarc off
31. Posted by epador | January 13, 2011 6:16 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 18:16
32. Posted by Oyster | January 13, 2011 9:03 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Gah, they're astro-turfing memorial events now too?
32. Posted by Oyster | January 13, 2011 9:03 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 21:03
33. Posted by john | January 13, 2011 9:48 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Amid all this raging and sputtering, you're overlooking one small point. The shirts were designed by a UofA student, produced and distributed by the university, and Obama and the White House had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-truth-about-the-together-we-thrive-t-shirts-at-the-tucson-memorial/
But don't let facts get in the way of your Obama bashing.
33. Posted by john | January 13, 2011 9:48 PM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 21:48
34. Posted by nhoj | January 13, 2011 9:49 PM | Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
Amid all this raging and sputtering, you're overlooking one small point. The shirts were designed by a UofA student, produced and distributed by the university, and Obama and the White House had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-truth-about-the-together-we-thrive-t-shirts-at-the-tucson-memorial/
But don't let facts get in the way of your Obama bashing.
34. Posted by nhoj | January 13, 2011 9:49 PM |
Score: -1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 21:49
35. Posted by scsi.WuZzY | January 13, 2011 10:25 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
nhoj,
If true: They were put on the chairs ahead of time, the President's staff did know, and someone should have had the sense to back the truck up. The don't send the Pres, First Lady and senior cabinet members into a big room without an extensive walk down first, before the first guest gets in.
But, the mission accomplished banner, a tradition on naval ships coming home, is still blamed on Bush 43, so, even if you're correct, I have 0 sympathy. There is no generations' long tradition at universities to hand out tacky t-shirts at memorials for the White House to say they were deferring to.
35. Posted by scsi.WuZzY | January 13, 2011 10:25 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 22:25
36. Posted by Peter F. | January 14, 2011 12:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Pure pap.
36. Posted by Peter F. | January 14, 2011 12:40 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on January 14, 2011 00:40
37. Posted by john | January 14, 2011 2:57 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
But, the mission accomplished banner, a tradition on naval ships coming home, is still blamed on Bush 43, so, even if you're correct, I have 0 sympathy.
So let me get this straight. The tshirts weren't appropriate, unless it really was done by the university, except if it was then you still won't concede, because... well, liberals blamed Bush for Mission Accomplished. Is that it? Way to have the courage of your convictions. Apparently "appropriateness" is determined solely by your spite.
Oh, by the way...
[Bush] said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; [White House press secretary Dana Perino] later said the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90CEKGG0
Fail.
37. Posted by john | January 14, 2011 2:57 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 14, 2011 02:57