I missed last night's memorial and so did not get to see what more and more people are bringing to my attention. The apparent dismantling of the separation of church and state:
Last night we may have witnessed the 21st Century's first spiritual gathering in which our political leaders become High Priests too. There were no Jewish rabbis or Catholic and Christian clergy who represented the faiths of those who actually died or were terribly maimed. Instead, the University of Arizona offered up secular political leaders to serve as our spiritual leaders. They were the ones who were there to salve our wounds. They were the ones to quote from the Old and New Testaments, to cite from proverbs, psalms and other scriptures. We witnessed a national secular religious event. If that sounds like a contradiction in terms, welcome to the New World of religious secularism. We may be seeing the "new normal" of a religious ethos being born before our very eyes: Government becomes the new church.
... is it possible that we caught a glimpse of the New Spirituality of the 21st Century where government serves as guardians of our spiritual health as well as our physical health? Did we see secular new priests emerge who ready to supplant our traditional Christian-Judaic clergy? And indirectly, did we also get a peek into the culture of our modern universities and of the kind of the values that are being imparted to the next generation?
My guess is that if a Republican administration had been in power and all that co-mingling of church and state had gone on that there would've been a huge outcry... but the establishment clause proponents have been completely silent (to my knowledge) on it since it's largely their own allies who are in power.
Par for the course.
H/T to Larwyn.



Comments (13)
Well Rick, He IS the Obamas... (Below threshold)1. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 3:43 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Well Rick, He IS the Obamassiah!
1. Posted by GarandFan | January 13, 2011 3:43 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:43
2. Posted by zipity | January 13, 2011 3:44 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
What? Are you implying that the Left is filled with duplicitous, scum-bag, low-life, ends-justifies-the-means, no-account, bas*ards..? I'm shocked. I thought they were thoughtful, fair-minded, God fearing, good people.... *SNORT* I breaks meself up sum-times...
2. Posted by zipity | January 13, 2011 3:44 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:44
3. Posted by Zipity | January 13, 2011 3:46 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
GarandFan, you left something important off his name. It's Obamassiah©
3. Posted by Zipity | January 13, 2011 3:46 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 15:46
4. Posted by Brett | January 13, 2011 4:05 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Unlike most most of the more vacuous "separation of church and state" cliams, this one does appear to approach the real meaning of the establishment clause. It appears to indeed suggest establishment of a state religion. "State", in this case, has a double meaning.
4. Posted by Brett | January 13, 2011 4:05 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 16:05
5. Posted by yttik | January 13, 2011 5:59 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
We elected The Chosen One. There is no longer a need for church or state. We now have the Obamessiah in charge and he can walk on water, lower sea levels, and heal people in comas.
5. Posted by yttik | January 13, 2011 5:59 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 17:59
6. Posted by Wiglaf | January 13, 2011 6:33 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
"Par for the course" implies golf
Golf requires the use of clubs
Clubs are weapons
Weapons imply violence
Violence begets injury and death
Rick, by your own words you are promoting:
Violence
Injury
Death
and hatred.
This is kinda fun :)
6. Posted by Wiglaf | January 13, 2011 6:33 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 18:33
7. Posted by DaveD | January 13, 2011 7:19 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Before this happened how many of the disciples were praying for the "Oklahoma City" moment when Obama could re-assert the fantasy that he is an actual leader. Well, this isn't the ideal situation because it looks like the murderer did not kill because of some grand, right-wing political ideology but Obama is gonna have to take what he can get because who knows when his next opportunity will arise to cast his words over these waters of shock and sorrow. Therefore, he is not going dilute the focus on his words by sharing the podium with a rabbi, pastor or priest who might speak more eloquently on spiritual matters than he. Despite the tragedy, wherever Obama appears it still his about him.
7. Posted by DaveD | January 13, 2011 7:19 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 19:19
8. Posted by Woop | January 13, 2011 7:25 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
now come on... Credit where credit is due, You gotta admit. Having a President who can heal gunshot wounded victims has advantages.
Now if he could only heal a professional victim like Sarah Palin.
8. Posted by Woop | January 13, 2011 7:25 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 19:25
9. Posted by iwogisdead | January 13, 2011 7:31 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
DaveD with the iwogisdead Nail on the Head award for January 13.
What gets me is that Obama, a whole cloth product of the left, scores big by denouncing the left's pathetic attempts to attribute blame for this tragedy to Sarah Palin.
And what does the left do today? Complain about Sarah Palin some more, of course.
Unity? Discourse? Fairy tales.
9. Posted by iwogisdead | January 13, 2011 7:31 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 19:31
10. Posted by Sky Captain | January 13, 2011 8:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maybe the ObamaMessiah can heal the stupid dumbasses.
Woop can be first in line.
Oh, wait. If Teh Won heals the stupid dumbasses, then no one would vote for him. Even the Lamestream Media couldn't cover for him to get him elected.
One would hope, anyway...
10. Posted by Sky Captain | January 13, 2011 8:27 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 20:27
11. Posted by Woop | January 13, 2011 11:58 PM | Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
But seriously. Palin makes it all about her.
She wants America to feel her pain, and see how she has suffered at the hands of the mean old media....who for some strange reason thinks that she's nothing more than a self-serving egotistical monster.
She's not fit for leadership.
11. Posted by Woop | January 13, 2011 11:58 PM |
Score: -3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 13, 2011 23:58
12. Posted by Brett | January 14, 2011 12:45 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
So, let me just get this straight - you and your buddies have spent the last two years accusing her of every nonsensical failing under the sun, threatening her life, her children, etc. Then the entire week trying to pin the blame for this on her, despite her having absolutely no connection with it in any way.
She tries to defend herself and her adherents against this absolutely libelous and slanders accusations, and *shes* the one at fault? This show just exactly how morally bankrupt the left in this country is.
Who has spent the last two years blaming their every setback on Fox News, right wing talk radio, and those idiots in flyover country clinging to guns and bibles, and even his own party when they control BOTH HOUSES OF THE CONGRESS ? It sure wasn't a private citizen in Alaska. It was the putative *President of the United States*. I would take Sarah over a malignant narcissist that hasn't worked and honest day or taken any real responsibility for any hard decision in his entire life.
12. Posted by Brett | January 14, 2011 12:45 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 14, 2011 00:45
13. Posted by Sky Captain | January 14, 2011 4:55 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Here, here, Brett!
Nicely said.
Now Woop can change his name to "My @$$ got Wooped again". :-)
13. Posted by Sky Captain | January 14, 2011 4:55 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 14, 2011 16:55