Insty turns us on to a new blog that should come in handy next time a progressive wants to lecture us on civility, tone, tolerance and violent rhetoric.
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They are all talk an... (Below threshold)1. Posted by gnossoss papadopoulis | January 15, 2011 3:48 PM | Score: -16 (20 votes cast)
They are all talk and funny costumes. Conservatives get the job done:
-- July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.
-- October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.
-- December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals -- the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" -- threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.
-- December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.
-- January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.
-- February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.
-- April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.
-- April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.
-- May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.
-- June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.
-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)
-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.
-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.
-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.
-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.
-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.
-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.
-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.
1. Posted by gnossoss papadopoulis | January 15, 2011 3:48 PM |
Score: -16 (20 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 15:48
2. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:03 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Oh, you want to play that game, pap smear? Fine. Let's play that game.
Here's a list of left-wing violence which was blamed on conservatives:
Blame Righty: A condensed history
Here's more violent left-wingers:
Tomato Man: Another addition to the Unhinged mugshot collection
More here.
2. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:03 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:03
3. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:05 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
One more new one:
Climate of Hate blog
3. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:05 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:05
4. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:06 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Which is, of course, the blog linked to in the post (which I hadn't looked at before reading pap smear's comment *sigh*). I hate it when I get ahead of myself.
4. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:06 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:06
5. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:16 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Pap smear has posted at least one lie:
Stack wasn't a conservative. See here and here. That one stuck out for me, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are others on pap smear's list who weren't conservatives.
5. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:16 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:16
6. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:19 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Oh, see. Here's me not being surprised:
And the truth:
John_Patrick_Bedell: Beliefs
[sarcasm]My eyes are going fuzzy. Do those first five words say "Bedell was a registered Republican?"[/sarcasm]
6. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 4:19 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:19
7. Posted by apb | January 15, 2011 4:25 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Looks like papadouchenozzle's barking up the wrong tree in several instances - like a true dim-witted progressive, it confuses nazis and white supremacists with conservatives.
Hey, douchenozzle - the nazi's were from the same mold as Stalinists, Marxists, and current socialist dems. All for the State, and the State over all. As for white supremacists - they're an offshoot of the old racists southern Dems like that paragon of virtue, Robert Byrd.
QED.
7. Posted by apb | January 15, 2011 4:25 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:25
8. Posted by Upset Old Guy | January 15, 2011 4:39 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I suggest our esteemed visitor from the left side of the aisle spend a moment or two visiting this site before further beclowning himself.
8. Posted by Upset Old Guy | January 15, 2011 4:39 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:39
9. Posted by howcome | January 15, 2011 4:49 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
NAZI's and white supremacists=conservatives? How dumb do you have to be to believe that?
9. Posted by howcome | January 15, 2011 4:49 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 16:49
10. Posted by Jay Tea | January 15, 2011 5:04 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
"Get the job done," dip? You listed 18 incidents.
One, as noted, was no "right-winger.
In one case, no suspect was ever identified.
In five more, they were stopped before they did anything.
The Holocaust shooter was no "right-winger," he was a neo-Nazi who was old enough to be an original Nazi, and quite possibly senile.
The Pentagon shooter was a bipolar pothead and registered Democrat.
So, wherever you're cutting and pasting your talking points from... they suck.
Which means that, for not checking them before repeating them, you suck, too.
J.
10. Posted by Jay Tea | January 15, 2011 5:04 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 17:04
11. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:23 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Jay, I suspect it's a list from some left-wing website for the gullible and braindead. My guesses: either DailyKos or Democrat Underground.
11. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:23 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 17:23
12. Posted by GarandFan | January 15, 2011 5:26 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
"So, wherever you're cutting and pasting your talking points from"
It's part of the 'progressive echo chamber culture'.
12. Posted by GarandFan | January 15, 2011 5:26 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 17:26
13. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:34 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
I was close. It appears to have come from David Neiwart on the appropriately named "Crooks and Liars."
Terror in Arizona: Just another 'isolated incident'? Funny how that list keeps mounting
Aside from that completely dishonest list, that entire post is worthy of little more than inducing vomit. Keep a bucket handy, especially for the line right before the list.
13. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:34 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 17:34
14. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:38 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Not the first time Neiwart has posted that list:
Assessing terrorism: Despite the rise of a right-wing domestic threat, it goes largely ignored
(I almost left the title at "Ass.")
14. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:38 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 17:38
15. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:42 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
On a related note...
The extremist, conservative-smearing left has failed!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
15. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 5:42 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 17:42
16. Posted by gaius piconius | January 15, 2011 6:19 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Gnopo; Deal with it...the historical mosaic of bloodshed in the twentieth century was most strikingly left related...very much left related. Recall Lenin and Stalin and their 'whip society into shape policies' generating millions and millions of victims, all of them soviet slave citizens. Remember your socialist son Adolph, (who your progressive companions struggle to disown), and the fewer millions of victims of his 'national socialist' glory. Bring to mind the greatest socialist killer of them all, Mao, revered even today by prominent Democrats as a truly favourite philosopher, and, too, the killing fields of socialist Cambodia, or comrade Che, a psychopath, still idolized and embraced as a fashion icon by progressives everywhere, especially in progressive American academic circles. Then, finally, the reeducation camps of Mao that shocked his young socialist believers who found themselves enslaved and humiliated among the agricultural peasants, victims of their own socialist zeal. The total killed...what...90-100 million! The casualties that survived...far fewer... but hugely significant. This socialist legacy, Gnopo, is yours; and for myself, my hatred of socialism of this type, as for anyone with even a small imagination,is palpable. Dare you struggle against it's validity? Or perhaps you limit your social conscience and social aspirations to merely the pilfering of all future wealth and freedom for the elevation of today's less fortunate. The European model, what!
Anyway, Gnopo, feel free to include the humble Gaius as a hater for your next pitifully contrived listing of conservative criminal hatred. The notoriety could be my only hope for immortality.
16. Posted by gaius piconius | January 15, 2011 6:19 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 18:19
17. Posted by iwogisdead | January 15, 2011 7:34 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Whoa . . . . looks like somebody got bitch-slapped for testing the Wizbang waters. All while I was taking a nap. Carry on guys.
17. Posted by iwogisdead | January 15, 2011 7:34 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 19:34
18. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 7:40 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, the greatest mass murderers in history, were either communists or socialists.
They believed in state control of the means of production and all realms of public life, pogroms against the wealthy, control of the media, i.e. all the great "progressive" modes of operation.
Those with conservative principles founded this country and believed in faith, family, love of country, private property, equality under the law, limited government, i.e. what the "Tea Party" believes.
So, tell me, scumbag, which are those creating "hostile" political noise? Who are those who have killed the most innocents?
Bastards.
18. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 7:40 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 19:40
19. Posted by justpassingthrough | January 15, 2011 8:47 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I like the blogger's name at the site.
Markos Krugman
19. Posted by justpassingthrough | January 15, 2011 8:47 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 20:47
20. Posted by GarandFan | January 15, 2011 8:47 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
THE BEAT GOES ON..........
Tucson shooting victim threatens Tea Party founder is arrested:
http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13849741
Nothing like having a rational discussion.
20. Posted by GarandFan | January 15, 2011 8:47 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 20:47
21. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 9:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That guy has been all over the news lately.
21. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 9:04 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 21:04
22. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis | January 15, 2011 9:10 PM | Score: -15 (17 votes cast)
I am hardly a liberal and I most certainly don't agree with what insanity has gripped the right. I was not born in America but I became a citizen in 1985. I am simply chronicling the crumbling of America as the left and right fight it out, ignoring the real problems, while China, India and the EU, watch the circular firing squad that is collapsing the empire. No real solutions are ever discussed here it's just a place where uniformed crybabys demean your fellow countrymen. America was once a dream come true. Now it is factory of propaganda by the left and the right manipulated by corporate money teetering on collapse.
22. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis | January 15, 2011 9:10 PM |
Score: -15 (17 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 21:10
23. Posted by GarandFan | January 15, 2011 9:16 PM | Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Yeah.....and I'm the freaking Tooth Fairy.
"Now it is factory of propaganda by the left and the right manipulated by corporate money teetering on collapse."
So explain how "corporate money" benefits if the country collapses?
23. Posted by GarandFan | January 15, 2011 9:16 PM |
Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 21:16
24. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 9:42 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Someone's backtracking.
24. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 15, 2011 9:42 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 21:42
25. Posted by iwogaidead | January 15, 2011 10:20 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I think you mean "crybabies."
25. Posted by iwogaidead | January 15, 2011 10:20 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 22:20
26. Posted by OregonMuse | January 15, 2011 11:00 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
So you show up on a conservative blog parroting a cut-n-paste set of left-wing talking points, and now you expect us to believe you're some sort of more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger moderate? Seriously?
Run along back to Kos, or whoever is paying you, and tell them your concern-troll schtick needs work.
26. Posted by OregonMuse | January 15, 2011 11:00 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:00
27. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 11:04 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Who shows up at the ABC News event re the Tucson shooting but a liberal Democrat nutter screaming, "you're dead" to the head of the local Tea Party. Please, why is there even a debate about political rhetoric from the "right." Your typical unhinged nutjob, but at a rally about shooting dead a bunch of decent people, my God.
http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13849741
27. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 11:04 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:04
28. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 11:05 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Oh, and forgot, not just any nutter, he's a Democrat operative, a true Party man, to boot!!
28. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 11:05 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:05
29. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 11:08 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Jared Loughner isn't the only untreated mental patient on the Left. And we haven't even started talking about the New York Times's columnists.
29. Posted by Mitchell | January 15, 2011 11:08 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:08
30. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis | January 15, 2011 11:26 PM | Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
Yes Garandfan the multi-national banking interests did quite well when the government handed them hundreds of billions of dollars with TARP. Corporate interests are having record profits while the American people are being sucked dry. But instead of addressing the real problem of politicians on both sides doing the biding of Wall Street and multi-national corporations instead of serving the interests of the American people the balance of power has shifted from "We the People".
These interests are profiting nicely by keeping the American people at war with each other.
30. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis | January 15, 2011 11:26 PM |
Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:26
31. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis | January 15, 2011 11:37 PM | Score: -13 (15 votes cast)
I had hope originally for the Tea Party, maybe to address Citizens United at least, but instead they help to elect uber lobbyists like Dan Coates, Rick Scott and Roy Blunt. Proof that they are absolute frauds.
31. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis | January 15, 2011 11:37 PM |
Score: -13 (15 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:37
32. Posted by 914 | January 15, 2011 11:57 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Have some more kool aid gnossoss stephanopoluss.
32. Posted by 914 | January 15, 2011 11:57 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 15, 2011 23:57
33. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 16, 2011 12:52 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Who is this moron? He starts out claiming conservatives "get the job done" when it comes to violence and when he's called out on the lies, he starts babbling nonsense about banks and profits and corporations.
33. Posted by Jinx McHue | January 16, 2011 12:52 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 16, 2011 00:52
34. Posted by hcddbz | January 16, 2011 12:56 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
1. Conservative a belief in limited central government and the self determination of of the individual. The belief that rights come from a higher power and that no government can take our rights away without due cause.
Since the belief is in limited government as created by the founding documents we are not "Anti- government.
We do hoever have a right to
1. We have Freedom of speech
2. We can voice dissatisfaction with government .
3. We have the right to meet with other like minded people and talk about things.
Treason is also found to be illegal. in the Document so White Supremacist , Nazi or any other group that wants to levy war against the USA are not in the Conservative.
Even if we look at Left and Right wing as applied during the French Revolution. Where Right was traditional and left was radical social change revolution.
Revolutions tend to be more bloody, and by there very nature are therefore more violent. look at the WTO meetings, PETA, ECO Terrorist , Anti Vivisectionist etc.
34. Posted by hcddbz | January 16, 2011 12:56 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 16, 2011 00:56
35. Posted by Jay Tea
| January 16, 2011 6:23 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Let's see... gnososs is "hardly a liberal," but cheerfully cuts and pastes bogus smears against conservatives lifted from one of the more dishonest and hyperpartisan leftist blogs around as if they were gospel truth, without bothering to fact-check them in the least first.
I think someone's missing an "a" from the start of their name...
J.
35. Posted by Jay Tea
| January 16, 2011 6:23 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 16, 2011 06:23
36. Posted by GarandFan | January 16, 2011 10:46 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
30. Posted by gnossoss papadopolis
Nice WINDY statement, that says absolutely nothing in answer to my question.
If a society "descends into chaos", how do the moneyed corporations benefit?
You made the statement - or 'cut and pasted' from somewhere else - thus you agree with it. So now, defend it. Or would that require you to actually think for yourself?
36. Posted by GarandFan | January 16, 2011 10:46 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 16, 2011 10:46
37. Posted by JLawson | January 16, 2011 2:34 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Garandfan -
It's really simple -
1. Corporations throw economy into chaos.
2. ?
3. Profit!
That nobody can describe how 2 works is a sign of the sheer evil genius of corporations.
For leftist thinking, as exemplified in CA -
1. Government forces businesses to the point they leave through excessive regulation
2. ?
3. Everyone lives happily ever after in a well-regulated environment.
Again - 2 is a mystery to the rational mind. But it must be something pretty damn amazing.
37. Posted by JLawson | January 16, 2011 2:34 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 16, 2011 14:34