It was just a few days ago that Obama said, "only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to the challenges of our nation".
And it was last night that this took place on the floor of the House of Representatives:
In an extraordinary outburst on the House floor, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) invoked the Holocaust to attack Republicans on health care and compared rhetoric on the issue to the work of infamous Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
"They say it's a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels," Cohen said. "You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That's the same kind of thing. And Congressman Cohen didn't stop there.
"The Germans said enough about the Jews and people believed it--believed it and you have the Holocaust. We heard on this floor, government takeover of health care. Politifact said the biggest lie of 2010 was a government takeover of health care because there is no government takeover," Cohen said.
Do understand that the call for civility on the part of the leftists in this country is complete and total bovine fecal matter. They're as interested in civility as Michael Moore is in veracity. Not very. Or as the wider media is in telling this story.
Imagine for a moment what the hue and cry might've been if Republicans were saying things like this about Democrats. We'd be hearing about it for days. But let a Democrat say this kind of crap and it's largely ignored.
Civility?
Stick it in your ear.
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Didn't last long, did it? ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 10:04 PM | Score: 9 (15 votes cast)
Didn't last long, did it? About as long as Barry's "moving to the center".
To leave on a high note. Barry got the Chinese to let us have the panda bears for 5 more years!
Aren't you thrilled?
1. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 10:04 PM |
Score: 9 (15 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:04
2. Posted by Mitchell | January 19, 2011 10:06 PM | Score: 9 (15 votes cast)
Joe Wilson's "you lie" seems pretty benign in comparison, and yet it was non-stop chatter in the MSM at the time.
I doubt we'll here anything further now re Cohen in the MSM.
The worst hypocrisy on planet earth, is the delusional activity on the Left--screaming about civility, then relentlessly attackind Palin, and other Republicans.
2. Posted by Mitchell | January 19, 2011 10:06 PM |
Score: 9 (15 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:06
3. Posted by Marco Polo | January 19, 2011 10:10 PM | Score: -19 (29 votes cast)
And the best part is how we got the mindless Rhinos to sit with us next week during the SOTUA. Shows your weakness, and they walked right into our trap.
And SOTUA couldn't come at a better time for Obama to dominate. His numbers are at 53 and your 2012 ticket of Palin/Steele are at 35. Hahahha.
And, of course, you know we are keeping health care.
Now, STFU.
3. Posted by Marco Polo | January 19, 2011 10:10 PM |
Score: -19 (29 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:10
4. Posted by 914 | January 19, 2011 10:11 PM | Score: 10 (16 votes cast)
Stuck on Stupid has arrived!^
4. Posted by 914 | January 19, 2011 10:11 PM |
Score: 10 (16 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:11
5. Posted by sarahconnor2 | January 19, 2011 10:14 PM | Score: 10 (16 votes cast)
Tsk, tsk, Marco,
STFU? That's not very civil.
And using the term "trap" could incite someone. After all, aren't mouse traps used to kill mice?
5. Posted by sarahconnor2 | January 19, 2011 10:14 PM |
Score: 10 (16 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:14
6. Posted by retired military | January 19, 2011 10:17 PM | Score: 11 (19 votes cast)
"They say a government takeover of health care is good for you. It is a big lie. Just like Goebbels said "You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it.""
6. Posted by retired military | January 19, 2011 10:17 PM |
Score: 11 (19 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:17
7. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 10:19 PM | Score: 11 (15 votes cast)
Good article Rick. You-know-who dropped by just to prove your point.
7. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 10:19 PM |
Score: 11 (15 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:19
8. Posted by 914 | January 19, 2011 10:20 PM | Score: 10 (14 votes cast)
marco polio-
"And SOTUA couldn't come at a better time for Obama to dominate. His numbers are at 53 and your 2012 ticket of Palin/Steele are at 35. Hahahha."
Dementia is a sad thing to witness.
8. Posted by 914 | January 19, 2011 10:20 PM |
Score: 10 (14 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:20
9. Posted by LeBron Steinman | January 19, 2011 10:24 PM | Score: 10 (14 votes cast)
3. Posted by Marco Polo | January 19, 2011 10:10 PM
You've got that Loughner-style riff going pretty good there,honey.
Shaved your head yet?
9. Posted by LeBron Steinman | January 19, 2011 10:24 PM |
Score: 10 (14 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:24
10. Posted by sam | January 19, 2011 10:27 PM | Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
By the time the 2012 elections roll around, Obama will be running on repealing Obamacare.
10. Posted by sam | January 19, 2011 10:27 PM |
Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 22:27
11. Posted by Karl | January 19, 2011 11:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Or as Don Surber puts it, Bite me.
11. Posted by Karl | January 19, 2011 11:06 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 23:06
12. Posted by hyperbolist | January 19, 2011 11:16 PM | Score: -16 (24 votes cast)
#9: wow, that's fucking classy. What a great person you are, pissing on graves like that.
Seriously, his point stands: Obama's approval rating is a tick above 50%, and Palin's favourability rating (based on an aggregate of polls) has declined slightly and sits under 40%.
That's a fact. So you can throw feces back and forth with a single commenter because you're thin-skinned babies, but know that his ball of shit contained grains of truth in it, whereas yours was entirely half-digested Funyuns.
12. Posted by hyperbolist | January 19, 2011 11:16 PM |
Score: -16 (24 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 23:16
13. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 11:31 PM | Score: 11 (13 votes cast)
Hey Dumb and Dumber - show us where Palin is running under the Republican ticket for 2012. It's two years out, and Barry is already setting up his campaign.
Thought he was 'focused laser-like' on jobs?
As for Barry's 'popularity pole' - it's been a yo-yo. It goes up, but every time it goes down, it goes down FARTHER.
13. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 11:31 PM |
Score: 11 (13 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 23:31
14. Posted by jim m | January 19, 2011 11:49 PM | Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Hyper,
So what if Palin's polling is low. Has she declared? Has she won a nomination? I think that you will find a lot of people here do not care for her as a candidate either. With her polling it is likely that someone else will get that nomination and their polling right now would be lower because they lack the name recognition.
Barry is in deep shit and you know it. Unless he can get the economy turned around he's toast. He is pushing more spending and higher taxes both of which the majority of Americans don't want. He is printing money like mad that has pushed us to the brink of inflation that could quickly become hyperinflation. He has managed to avoid the pitfalls from the Gifford shooting but he has not shown that he can lead and make real compromises. So far he has shown that he can be overrun by a hostile Congress and forced to sign legislation he doesn't like such as the extension of the Bush tax cuts.
You can gloat all you like but Palin is not the nominee and is not likely to be so and we really don't care that much if that is the case.
14. Posted by jim m | January 19, 2011 11:49 PM |
Score: 13 (13 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 23:49
15. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 11:57 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Barry is real good at campaigning. Matter of fact, the only thing he's good at.
So is Barry going to run on his "record"? Sure as hell can't run against the guy currently holding the office. Or can he?
15. Posted by GarandFan | January 19, 2011 11:57 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on January 19, 2011 23:57
16. Posted by jim m | January 20, 2011 12:10 AM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Barry is real good at campaigning. Matter of fact, the only thing he's good at.
Actually, he's not really all that good at that. He won the IL Senate because he ran all competition off the ballot. He won the US Senate because the media managed to run his GOP competition off the ballot. He won the Presidency because people wanted to vote to prove they were not racist. He has huge negatives and will not win the kind of vote he got before and will not pull the same kind of turnout he got before. While some will want to presume that he will win the 2012 election it is far from certain. And yes, the GOP can screw this up easily.
16. Posted by jim m | January 20, 2011 12:10 AM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 00:10
17. Posted by Jay Tea
| January 20, 2011 5:42 AM | Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
It's two years out, and Barry is already setting up his campaign.
Garand, you imply that Obama ever stopped campaigning...
J.
17. Posted by Jay Tea
| January 20, 2011 5:42 AM |
Score: 7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 05:42
18. Posted by iwogisdead | January 20, 2011 5:45 AM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Wow. The Dems just got their asses historically kicked in November, and two months later they're here bragging that they've sprung their "trap" because of the seating arrangements at Obama's chat.
You're not even seeing the wall, let alone the handwriting.
18. Posted by iwogisdead | January 20, 2011 5:45 AM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 05:45
19. Posted by Oyster | January 20, 2011 8:11 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
He said "blood libel"? ZOMG! Call the media!
19. Posted by Oyster | January 20, 2011 8:11 AM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 08:11
20. Posted by hcddbz | January 20, 2011 8:14 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Rick,
As was told to me by several Liberals Nazi were right wing . Therefor it is ok to call Republicans Nazi. Now if you called The Democrats National Socialist well that would be a lie and smear.
In Similar manner when the DNC after years of having people writing plays and books and movies about the assassination of President Bush but up a Targeting Map" with Bullseye that harmless" If RNC person has sights well that is an incitement to violence.
Just Remember rule 1 and 2 of the DNC
1Republicans are Evil Democrats are Good.
2Republicans are hypocrites
if a Democrats does something hypocritical see rule 1
20. Posted by hcddbz | January 20, 2011 8:14 AM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 08:14
21. Posted by Jeff Blogworthy | January 20, 2011 8:27 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
An excellent observation from the American Spectator:
"Since Rep. Cohen wants to plant his flag on this "big lie" attack, it's worth noting that, contrary to widespread misconception, the "big lie" was not a tactic advocated by the Nazis, it was a Nazi accusation against their enemies."
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/01/19/the-big-lie
21. Posted by Jeff Blogworthy | January 20, 2011 8:27 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 08:27
22. Posted by WildWillie | January 20, 2011 9:23 AM | Score: 5 (11 votes cast)
Hyper, my little canadian buddy, saying someone is "pissing on the grave" makes you look seriously stupid. You do know the post is about your friends calling republicans Nazi's. You do know that? Maybe Rick could write slower for you? Now whose grave is being pissed on? Putz. Don't you have someone to irritate in canada?
As conservatives, we all knew the "call to civility" was directed to and only to conservatives. The hypocrits do not recognize their hate. View Hyper and Marco. Straight out hate. Right out of the chute. ww
22. Posted by WildWillie | January 20, 2011 9:23 AM |
Score: 5 (11 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 09:23
23. Posted by jim m | January 20, 2011 9:56 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
As for the bogus poll cited above, it turns out that the poll was of adults and appears to have significantly oversampled obama voters. The sampling was even more tilted toward obama than the previous poll by NBC/WSJ.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/20/nbcwsj-poll-shows-obama-bounce-of-eight-points-to-53/
23. Posted by jim m | January 20, 2011 9:56 AM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 09:56
24. Posted by 914 | January 20, 2011 10:20 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Poor Hyper.. A new day bring's him ever closer to absolute stupid! Barry will be the brain's Hyper, all you have to remember is " I'm with stupid!".
24. Posted by 914 | January 20, 2011 10:20 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 10:20
25. Posted by Ernie | January 20, 2011 11:02 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
The democrats are the one repeating lies until a majority of the people believe it, like Global Warming and Obama care will not raise the debt!!!
25. Posted by Ernie | January 20, 2011 11:02 AM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 11:02
26. Posted by hyperbolist | January 20, 2011 11:35 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Actually jim, it's based on an aggregate of polls including Fox News.
http://bit.ly/gUlWta
And Obama seems to be legitimately rebounding. Maybe Tea Partiers are smartening up and realizing that Republicans have zero interest in fiscal responsibility too.
http://bit.ly/crYEL1
26. Posted by hyperbolist | January 20, 2011 11:35 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 11:35
27. Posted by hyperbolist | January 20, 2011 11:37 AM | Score: -1 (7 votes cast)
Oh, and the "pissing on graves" comment was directed at the sonofabitch who compared an obnoxious commenter to a person who just murdered six people. It's pissing on graves for the same reason that calling someone a Nazi is like pissing on a Holocaust memorial. It's not something that decent people do.
27. Posted by hyperbolist | January 20, 2011 11:37 AM |
Score: -1 (7 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 11:37
28. Posted by GarandFan | January 20, 2011 12:02 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
"And Obama seems to be legitimately rebounding."
Is there some "magical" incantation that will keep those numbers from sliding downwards (again)?
28. Posted by GarandFan | January 20, 2011 12:02 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 12:02
29. Posted by John | January 20, 2011 1:21 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Lookie here, and admission from a lib:"Maybe Tea Partiers are smartening up and realizing that Republicans have zero interest in fiscal responsibility too."
Like a stuck clock you've finally said something that makes sense, and you are of course correct the tea party is frustrated with Republicans that act like Democrats (too). So thanks for the admission that the Democrats are fiscally irresponsible.
29. Posted by John | January 20, 2011 1:21 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 13:21
30. Posted by WildWillie | January 20, 2011 1:30 PM | Score: -2 (4 votes cast)
Hyper is forever moving the goal posts in his comments. Hate, is hate, is hate. ww
30. Posted by WildWillie | January 20, 2011 1:30 PM |
Score: -2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on January 20, 2011 13:30