The left has no counter argument. Just vile hatred. That is why the fixate on a target like Bush/Cheney/HaliPalin and drool for a cogent thought continually.

Should video the reaction of the left ankle biters that populate this site when they read this thread.

But..but...but...their statements are "nuanced"; full of subtleties and penumbras unfathomable to those not of the elite intelligentsia. You know, 'rednecks', 'whitey', 'the great unwashed', 'those living in flyover country'. When you really get down to it - the people who they couldn't live without.

Damn, I wish I could rant like that! Outstanding.

"And who knows, there's always hope that maybe one of them will come to their freakin' senses."

Keep hoping, keep posting, don't stop showing the facts over and over again, because people are listening. Even I was once a loyal liberal and a Democrat.

Where's whoop, Brucie, & all the other libtard responses?

/sound of crickets

Typical.. When faced with facts.

"Where's whoop, Brucie, & all the other libtard responses?"

Bruce is the lib, whoop is the tard. They only appear when the library is open.

For the sake of argument, we could could go back and forth on this one. But much of the right are not shy about the language they employ to underline their opposition. With the important caveat, I don't much care for the abortion issue- I'm more sympathetic to the conservative position than the liberal position. However, as a recent example of right wing violent rhetoric, it would be difficult to top the imagery of Erick Erikson's influential Red State site. From their directors:

The reason for this is simple: once before, our nation was forced to repudiate the Supreme Court with mass bloodshed. We remain steadfast in our belief that this will not be necessary again, but only if those committed to justice do not waiver or compromise, and send a clear and unmistakable signal to their elected officials of what must be necessary to earn our support.

Mark Kleiman gives the cogent shorthand, "If you don't criminalize abortion, we'll start another Civil War. Find me a comparable threat from a source with equivalent standing in Democratic politics to the standing RedState has with the GOP, and then let’s talk about the equivalence of the two sides".

Steve,

I would say that Cindy Sheehan and the Daily Kos fit your requirement for people with equivalent standing in dem politics.

Perhaps the rhetoric is overheated but it is far short of the assassination porn that the left indulged in for 8 years of Bush administration. Nor does it match the barely concealed glee that I recall from many on the left when Reagan was shot. Nor does it amount to the outright violence against and attempted murder of GOP delegates to the convention in Minneapolis.

Yes, Steve, we could go back and forth on this one and the left would lose. The left not only has indulged in far more violent language, but it has acted upon it with greater frequency.

Cogent shorthand for Crickmore : "We should not have had the Civil War over slavery. It would have been better to keep blacks as slaves."

Les, considering the enormous bloodshed, probably in the South, it would have, until after a few decades when the situation might have evolved.

im m, Cindy Sheehan had a axe to grind, and the anonymous diarists on Kos can be anyone. They are almost expected to sound off this way! But you are right in suggesting each side seems to accuse the other. They can't see the beam in front of them. Obama is pretty reluctant to criticize some of the most extreme rhetoric from his supporters, but he is reluctant to do a lot of things.

"11. Posted by Steve Crickmore "

Yikes. I guess that's just a bridge too far for me. The idea of 'owning' another human being that you can beat, rape, abuse and kill....slavery is just an abomination that had to be ended.

Now whether that is a direct analog to abortion, I guess that is the question.

Yes Les, both are abominations! I'm not an expert on the Civil War, but as I recall the South fought it not because slavery was going to be outlawed in the Territories -the Dred Scot case- and they could see the writing was on the wall.

The legacy of the civil war were the Jim Crow laws. 620,000 people approx died in the Civil War. The population of the USA was about 31 million, including about 4 million slaves.

Brazil was the last nation in the Western Hemisphere to abolish slavery, in 1888.

jim m, I'm listening to this critical view of Obama , about the Chicago political machine and ..Rham Emanuel, who is nothing else than a master of violent invective dug a steak knife on a table "(this person) is dead, dead, dead"

I may be a little confused -as I said i wasn't an expert- but the Supreme Court ruling on the Dred Scott decision was against the runaway slave- so it was the reaction of the North, that set off the Southern states.