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They Just Don't Get It

One of the surest indicators of just how successful the Tea Party movement has been is in counting how many ways the Left has tried to imitate it. There were the Coffee Parties, which went nowhere fast. Then there was "No Labels," another attempt to push back against the Tea Parties. That is also turning into an abject failure.

Well, Mother Jones (no, they're not dead; they just smell that way) has yet another idea to push back and get their own mass movement going to counter the Tea Party movement, and they're drawing their inspiration from England.

Man, they really, really, really just don't get it. And even though I think they're congenitally incapable of getting it, I'm going to try to spell it out for them.

The movement in England is to buttress the welfare state by taking more and more money (and power) out of the hands of private individuals and organizations and give it to the government, which will then "redistribute" it (after taking their cut, of course) to the poor. It's about convincing the poor that their status is the result of some grand conspiracy by Big Business to keep them poor and oppressed.

In essence, the British movement is about taking power away from private entities and transferring it to the government. Which is about as far from the Tea Party movement as you can get.

The Tea Party movement is about taking power and money away from the federal government, in the belief that it has accumulated far more than it is entitled to or can be trusted with over the years. As P. J. O'Rourke noted almost two decades ago, "giving money and power to politicians is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenaged boys." As a former teenaged boy, I can respect that sentiment.

The British movement is about holding others responsible for what they see as their sins against "the masses." The Tea Party movement is about taking responsibility for ourselves.

In theory, the British movement should be an easier sell. It's a hell of a lot easier to convince people to find someone else to scapegoat for their failings than it is to admit that we, the people, elected these bums who screwed it up, and we, the people, have to take the responsibility for that and take the burdens back on ourselves.

In a nutshell, in England the message is "take what they have and give it to us." Here, it's "stop taking so much from us."

As I said, that should be a very seductive message. But it overlooks one element: the people being appealed to in England are the dependent class. They are used to being handed things, to simply making demands and issuing justifications based on "social justice" and whatnot. In the US, it's the producing class that is at the core of the movement -- the people who are used to going out and getting what they have, to earning things instead of simply demanding them and being placated with bribes.

That is the secret of the Tea Party movement. And that is the one thing that the left simply can't capture.

No matter how hard they try, no matter how many different ways they try.

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Comments (23)

Oh, they get it. They just... (Below threshold)
epador:

Oh, they get it. They just hope that they con come up with some Newspeak to opiate their voters with.

Hmm ... Looks like the Engl... (Below threshold)
James H:

Hmm ... Looks like the English protests started because Vodaphone was trying to claim most of its business went through Luxembourg, and it therefor shouldn't pay a large chunk of British taxes.

Seems like a worthy cause to me.

James H:So, when l... (Below threshold)
epador:

James H:

So, when legislators don't want to pay their fair share of taxes or health care costs, we should go after those nasty multimillionaires?

"That is the secret of t... (Below threshold)
PBunyan:

"That is the secret of the Tea Party movement. And that is the one thing that the left simply can't capture."

Exactly. They need to try and follow some historic event that is similiar to what they are trying to accomplish- like the Bolshevik Revolution. The Tea Party is the antithesis of what the left is all about.

As Thatcher observed, 'it w... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

As Thatcher observed, 'it will work until they run out of other people's money'. One thing the left always seems to forget. The rich are mobile.

The irony of it all is that... (Below threshold)
Matt:

The irony of it all is that these progressives, liberals, neo-commies etc. are following the philosophy of a couple of old white guys,Marx and Engles, who have been dead (and discreditied) for well over 100 years.

So the Tea Party, which tri... (Below threshold)
BlueNight:

So the Tea Party, which tries to capture the spirit of the American Revolution using the name of the Boston Tea Party, is being opposed by a group which identifies itself with the nation we fought to gain independence and which explicitly states they want to collect more taxes?

This is what we call a critical failure of marketing, or what the kids nowadays are calling "epic fail."

I was thinking along the li... (Below threshold)
Hank:

I was thinking along the lines of GarandFan wondering just how close they are to running out of other peoples money.

Looking at the linked article, these "dependents" want Vodafone to pay more taxes yet they show little regard for the fact that Vodafone employs a lot of people who ironically enough, pay taxes.

They go after Philip Green because they're not happy with the taxes he pays yet disregard the fact that "his companies all operate on British streets". Think maybe they employ people who also pay taxes?

Oh well. Wouldn't want to cut the " £30-a-week subsidy" given to 16 year olds, or cut the senior centers where the elderly can "meet their friends and socialize".

Once dependent, always dependent and easily manipulated.

Obama and the libs know this. This is the future they want. This is what the Tea Party is working against.

Reports of No Labels' death... (Below threshold)
Novanglus:

Reports of No Labels' death have been greatly exaggerated. It's just getting started.

The idea of taking from the... (Below threshold)
mag:

The idea of taking from the rich and giving to gov't to redistribute is in my opinion based on envy and laziness. (Note: 2 of the deadly sins). And I don't believe for a minute that they are concern with the plight of the poor.

Novanglus,"Reports... (Below threshold)
SER:

Novanglus,

"Reports of No Labels' death have been greatly exaggerated. It's just getting started."

Where?

One of the good th... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


One of the good things to come out of this shit--provided we successfully oust the left--will be their banishment to the wilderness for decades to come.

This, the most exceptional country on the planet, with the most exceptional form of government yet devised, must NOT be allowed to perish. In one way, we can thank the socialists for their overreach the last 2 years. Change, such as they desire, is best implemented gradually, not in such huge chunks as the left shoved in America's face.

The 2012 election will either be a watershed OR another incremental step toward equal socialistic misery.

My bet is that we WILL return to a Constitutional Republic.

The Tea Party is so grass r... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

The Tea Party is so grass roots the left cannot comprehend how it can go forward without someone ordering them to do so such as unions or race baiters.

I have been to Tea Party's and the attendee's are made up or hard working people who are sick and tired of our government being very irresponsible stewards of our tax dollars. Our government encourages laziness. Our government makes laws they do not have to follow. They government raids SS for years and now tell us it is a problem. The list goes on and on. The main reason there are problems: The goverrnment have gotten so big it cannot be handles. It needs to be chopped down. Redundant agencies, unions and such have to sacrifice.

Harry Truman said you shouldn't get rich off public service but that is exactly what is happening. It needs to stop. ww

"One of the good things to ... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"One of the good things to come out of this shit--provided we successfully oust the left--will be their banishment to the wilderness for decades to come."

Don't count on that, irongrampa.
There will always be someone whispering into the mob's ear : "You are owed. Look at that fat rich person. Why does he have and you do not? You should take it from him..." etc etc
Always been that way, always will.
That's why we need eternal vigilance.

Absolutely agree, ... (Below threshold)
irongrampa:


Absolutely agree, Les. Something about the price of freedom is eternal vigilance comes to mind.

What's being seen here is the vigilance having been relaxed--and the inevitable "oops" moment(read that Tea Party).

Thomas Sowell's got an inte... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Thomas Sowell's got an interesting article about "the 'Dubious Achievements' of the American Intellegentsia".

The intelligentsia have treated the conclusions of their vision as axioms to be followed, rather than hypotheses to be tested.

Some among the intelligentsia have treated reality itself as subjective or illusory, thereby putting current intellectual fashions and fads on the same plane as verified knowledge and the cultural wisdom distilled from generations of experience.

Intellectuals give people who have the handicap of poverty the further handicap of a sense of victimhood.

They have acted as if they are anointed to decide which segments of society to favor, who should be allowed to pick their own associates and who should not, which small risks people should be forbidden to take and which larger risks are all right.

They have romanticized cultures that have left people mired in poverty, violence, disease and chaos, while trashing cultures that have led the world in prosperity, medical advances and law and order. In doing so they have often disregarded, or even filtered out, the fact that masses of people were fleeing the societies intellectuals romanticized, to go to the societies they condemned.

The intelligentsia have been quick to find excuses for crime and equally quick to attribute wrong-doing to police, even when discussing things for which they have neither expertise nor experience, such as shootings.

They have encouraged the poor to believe that their poverty is caused by the rich – a message that may be a passing annoyance to the rich but a lasting handicap to the poor, who may see less need to make fundamental changes in their own lives that could lift themselves up, instead of focusing their efforts on tearing others down.

He's not kind.

I might also point out that the intellegentsia have also foisted a fear of nuclear power and a rather bizzare love of low-density power sources like windmills and solar, and also pushed green agendas that have stifled development of same in areas that would otherwise be perfectly suited for it. (Yet they ignore the problems of such sources...)

All in all, I just don't think the 'intelligentsia' are as smart as they think they are. Their only apparent quality is an unabashed belief in the essential correctness and infallibility of their own ideas - and the results stemming from those ideas don't matter one damn bit.

Dr. Sowell is quite right, ... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

Dr. Sowell is quite right, as usual.

Obama's budget reflects his lack of seriousness. Only blithering idiots and ravenous parasites will see anything worthy in it. It is as if Obama has decided that cutting anything is painful and people don't like pain, so he intends to blow smoke and let Republicans take the heat for trying to clean up his fiscal mess.

"Their only apparent qualit... (Below threshold)
Hank:

"Their only apparent quality is an unabashed belief in the essential correctness and infallibility of their own ideas - and the results stemming from those ideas don't matter one damn bit."

Excellent point!

How is that Classical Liber... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

How is that Classical Liberalism which found that the people should have freedom and the government be constrained has been flipped.

So they now want to give the government more power because they run things so well.
Social Securirty
BankRupt
They also manage companies with direct oversight:
Freddy Mae
Fanny Mack.

We hear about the incompetence of the oil spill in the Gulf. However why did the Federal government not have the ships and equipment on site to contain the spill.

The only organization that has to be cut, trimmed down and replace is the Military.

One of the surest indica... (Below threshold)
wolfwalker:

One of the surest indicators of just how successful the Tea Party movement has been is in counting how many ways the Left has tried to imitate it.

And one of the surest indicators of how far it still has to go is in counting how rapidly the freshman R senators and representatives are being corrupted by the Borg in DC.

I will believe the Tea Party has achieved its aims the day that McConnell and Boehner hold firm against Barry Lackwit and shut down the government rather than approve one more penny of deficit spending.

And one of the ... (Below threshold)
And one of the surest indicators of how far it still has to go is in counting how rapidly the freshman R senators and representatives are being corrupted by the Borg in DC.
Not that it should have surprised anyone.
Kinda fun watching them rea... (Below threshold)
Rich K:

Kinda fun watching them really. I have seen this same behavior on 'You Tube' when I watch a cat chasing its tail.

How can anyone immitate the... (Below threshold)

How can anyone immitate the tea party. Kind of hard to immitate that much stupidity. Only a tea party member can do that cause they are birds of the same feathers and they flock together. Gun totting,snuff dipping, bear guzzling tea partiers are in their element when among each other. The appropiate name for that bunch a scallywags world be the pee party cause the are willing to piss on others while thinking they have the answers for solving the mess the teapublicans created.




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