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Comments (25)
Good! Now Hyperbo... (Below threshold)1. Posted by 914 | February 18, 2011 12:57 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Good!
Now Hyperbolist can get the psychiatric help he so desperately needs without ObamaCaring the Canadians.
1. Posted by 914 | February 18, 2011 12:57 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 12:57
2. Posted by gaius piconius | February 18, 2011 1:01 PM | Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
And it's exactly this age group that our left up here want's to enfranchise with the vote...just like prison inmates. And you wonder why the Dem's have fled Madison! Incidentally, my free medical care has me waiting since last August for an appointment with a specialist. I might be better off as an illegal and imposing myself on your generosity.
2. Posted by gaius piconius | February 18, 2011 1:01 PM |
Score: 10 (10 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 13:01
3. Posted by GarandFan | February 18, 2011 1:06 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Just what we need. A 'teenage heart-throb' giving advice on medical insurance. Guess he'll be giving his music away "free" real soon.
3. Posted by GarandFan | February 18, 2011 1:06 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 13:06
4. Posted by epador | February 18, 2011 1:15 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
time 4 a Chicks moment
4. Posted by epador | February 18, 2011 1:15 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 13:15
5. Posted by Jim Addison | February 18, 2011 1:32 PM | Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
That little girl may feel differently once she hits puberty.
5. Posted by Jim Addison | February 18, 2011 1:32 PM |
Score: 4 (8 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 13:32
6. Posted by LiberalNitemare | February 18, 2011 1:35 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
His logic is a little messy...
You can read it (if you want) at http://wonkette.com/438378/justin-bieber-attacks-u-s-health-care-just-because-it-bankrupts-sick-people
It seems to lose something in the translation.
For example
Justin says:
My bodyguard’s baby was premature, and now he has to pay for it.
When you translate that from idiot teen age canadian popstar to english it reads
I don't provide my employees with a health care plan.
6. Posted by LiberalNitemare | February 18, 2011 1:35 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 13:35
7. Posted by Grace | February 18, 2011 1:59 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
The truth about free healthcare is that it is certainly not free.
It is great for going for a check up or a cold, but wait until you "need" "elective" surgery. "Need" as in can't walk up and down stairs because your knees are so bad that you are afraid one will give out. But knee replacement is "elective" surgery.
Close personal friend has been suffering for years (literally years). She finally will be able to see a specialist this coming August. The projected time of her surgery will be one and a half to two years from that initial appointment.
Yes, it is free. Do you think she might want to have the option to pay? Not legal here unless you leave the country, then there is absolutely no insurance for the surgery at all.
Choices are always limited. Here it is availablity of qualified doctors, nurses and hospital beds. In the U.S., it is the quality and type of health care plan that you have or do not have.
Sorry, but outcomes are not under any person's or any government's control. So the choices are:
pay and don't wait
or
don't pay and wait.
7. Posted by Grace | February 18, 2011 1:59 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 13:59
8. Posted by sam | February 18, 2011 2:06 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
gaius piconius
come on over and impose, everyone else is
get yours while the getting is good
8. Posted by sam | February 18, 2011 2:06 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 14:06
9. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 2:31 PM | Score: -18 (22 votes cast)
Healthcare spending is the single biggest reason why your economy is in the toilet. (No, it's not because of discretionary spending, which accounts for, what, one-eighth of the federal budget?) Your for-profit system is less efficient and more expensive than any in the developed world. And it's exactly what you deserve.
9. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 2:31 PM |
Score: -18 (22 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 14:31
10. Posted by jim m | February 18, 2011 3:12 PM | Score: 13 (15 votes cast)
Hyper,
Yeah, it has nothing to do with confiscatory tax rates and a government whose economic policy is so clouded that businesses cannot plan what to de next quarter much less over the next 1 to 5 years.
Health care is expensive but in a nation where it isn't nationalized it is also a large industry producing economic value.
The US healthcare industry draws in people from around the world for the service it provides. That is an economic value.
The US medical device industry manufactures billions of dollars wother of equipment and disposables that are exported around the globe. That is an economic benefit.
The US pharmaceutical industry manufactures drugs that are exported around the world. That is an economic benefit.
The US healthcare industry conducts more research and launches more new products and treatments that anywhere else in the world. That is more than just an economic benefit.
Ingorant people like you see healthcare as only a drain but in the US it is 6% of the economy and has historially been one of the most productive segments. That is why the libs want to control it, not because of the cost but because of the profit.
The biggesxt reason our economy sucks right now is over taxation, an uncertain regulatory environment and a monetary policy that is driving us rapidly to hyperinflation. Morons like yourself are unable to see past your ideology to see the reality on the street.
10. Posted by jim m | February 18, 2011 3:12 PM |
Score: 13 (15 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 15:12
11. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 3:36 PM | Score: -18 (22 votes cast)
Health insurance is not value. It's for-profit death panels.
While some Canadians do pay to use the system in the United States, more Americans practice healthcare tourism than any other people in the world. Mexico, Thailand and India are common destinations. The United States is a horrible place in which to get sick.
The medical device industry is not what I'm talking about and you know it. I'm talking about the cost of treating patients, like vs. like, in different places around the world. It costs a lot more in the United States than in any other country, and the outcomes are not as good as cheaper places such as Canada, France, Japan, Korea, Australia, England...
Your system is indefensible. But of course you'll defend it because you like the idea of people selling their homes to pay for cancer treatment.
Also, you appear to not understand the concept of 'hyperinflation'.
11. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 3:36 PM |
Score: -18 (22 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 15:36
12. Posted by PBunyan | February 18, 2011 3:59 PM | Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
In Canada there aren't armies of lawyers making countless billions on the backs of the medical system. Fix that and return to a true free market system and America's healthcare would kick the shit out of Canada system being much higher and quality, efficiency, and timeliness (as it currently is) as well as cheaper. Actually it already kicks the shit out of the Canadian system, notwithstanding the opinions of intellictual giants like Beber and Hyper, but it can still be made less costly too.
There are two reasons why healthcare is so costly here (1) trial lawyers and (2) government regulations. And Obamacare, had it not been ruled un-American (i.e. unconstitutional) would have worsened both of those problems.
12. Posted by PBunyan | February 18, 2011 3:59 PM |
Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 15:59
13. Posted by GarandFan | February 18, 2011 4:19 PM | Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Yeah hyper, keep flapping your lips. And when you're really sick, take a number and wait.
13. Posted by GarandFan | February 18, 2011 4:19 PM |
Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:19
14. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 4:19 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
1) Tort reform is needed. In fact, your entire society is far too litigious. Do you know how hard it is to get rich by suing someone in Canada, even if it's a wealthy employer that forced you to do something dangerous and resulted in you losing a limb? Your country is crazy with the lawsuits!
2) Doctors aren't lawyers, but a lot of them are just as greedy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/17/doctors-often-order-unnecessary-tests-_n_824725.html
14. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 4:19 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:19
15. Posted by epador | February 18, 2011 4:21 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Health care is so expensive here because many of the users are insulated from the costs, and their use/payment cycle drives up the cost for everyone. Health "insurance" the way it is used in this country is part of the problem. A single-payor system has the same insulation from cost to the user, and as EVERYONE has coverage, overuse rapidly leads to depletion of resources and rationing. Like in Canada and the UK.
15. Posted by epador | February 18, 2011 4:21 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:21
16. Posted by 914 | February 18, 2011 4:22 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
OBAUMBLECARE is just as un-American as the stupid lamebrain behind comment 11
16. Posted by 914 | February 18, 2011 4:22 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:22
17. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 4:22 PM | Score: -11 (13 votes cast)
Shitloads of regulation, by the way, is part of what makes healthcare affordable in countries with superior systems.
As for your system being superior to ours, you don't have data to back that up, obviously, because there isn't any. Outcomes in Canada are better. Canadians are in general healthier so that might fudge the numbers a bit, but all in all your system is fucked and I'm glad you agree with it.
Btw GirlFrand, I wait exactly a week, max, to see my doctor. I recently hooked three friends up with a GP. Lots of doctors in Toronto taking patients, but you've got lots of anecdotes about people dying in hospital lobbies of papercuts so I guess we'll call it even.
17. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 4:22 PM |
Score: -11 (13 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:22
18. Posted by Rich Fader | February 18, 2011 4:24 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
What this world needs now is a shaved Bieber. Or better yet, give that Bieber a full Brazilian wax.
18. Posted by Rich Fader | February 18, 2011 4:24 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:24
19. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 4:24 PM | Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
"Rationing". Right, because if it weren't for the government's management, we would have unlimited resources.
Health insurance companies add zero value to your lives. They are parasitic, and they are ruining your country. Grab yer fiddle, Nero.
19. Posted by hyperbolist | February 18, 2011 4:24 PM |
Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:24
20. Posted by epador | February 18, 2011 4:31 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
hyper - you can get in to see a GP easily, but if you have something actually WRONG with you you may have to wait quite a while to get it done (like a gall bladder operation for recurrent cholecystitis)
Here's what one of your fellow Canucks has to say about her personal experience:
http://girlontheright.com/2010/09/20/non-essential-surgery/
Blather on in continued denial. It seems to suit you well.
20. Posted by epador | February 18, 2011 4:31 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 16:31
21. Posted by Jay Guevara | February 18, 2011 5:21 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Hey Justin, does Canadian health care cover protease inhibitors? Obviously it doesn't cover human growth hormone.
21. Posted by Jay Guevara | February 18, 2011 5:21 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 17:21
22. Posted by WildWillie | February 18, 2011 6:41 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Hyper your out of your depth on this issue. (as most others)
Regulation in the USA is the main reason for higher costs. We have much lower infection rates, loss of life, fall's, etc. Where little countries (like yours) have higher incidencies of the above plus. European models, canadian models and the like do not translate to a huge country like the USA. Cannot work. Different government, different accredidation for healthcare organizations, etc. So Hyper, you go ahead and have Justin Beiber be your spokes person. It makes sense, really. ww
22. Posted by WildWillie | February 18, 2011 6:41 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 18:41
23. Posted by dlsada | February 18, 2011 11:20 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Looks like Sean Penn has a worthy successor. Time he took lessons on bailing a boat with a 12 oz. styrofoam cup.
Shut up and sing, or better yet, just shut up completely.
23. Posted by dlsada | February 18, 2011 11:20 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on February 18, 2011 23:20
24. Posted by Brian Richard Allen | February 19, 2011 9:00 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
That Canada's gummint fascistic ownership, operation and control of its every health-industry slave and of its every citizen/subject's very bodily functions (AKA "single-payer 'health care'") is so vastly superior to America's was never better illustrated than on 18 July 2000, almost ten years to the day AFTER he was diagnosed with Parkinson's, Canadian actor, Michael J. Fox, became an American.
Seems the Left's "proudly Canadian" on-cue Senate-Hearing Shaker, acutely politically and in every other way aware of where the world's best actual care is available, voted with his feet!
24. Posted by Brian Richard Allen | February 19, 2011 9:00 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on February 19, 2011 09:00
25. Posted by Brian Richard Allen | February 19, 2011 9:13 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Amazing, isn't it, that dorks like "hyperbolist" don't see the irony of having to come to America even to find an audience to blather on at about the superiority of their post-the-traitor, Trudeau's, Politically-Correct Multicultural Asian and Euro-Peon Peoples' National Socialist Mobbed-Up Workers' and Gummint Thugs' Democratic Canadian Republic.
Cnada: The "country" you have when you haven't got a country.
25. Posted by Brian Richard Allen | February 19, 2011 9:13 AM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on February 19, 2011 09:13