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Walker should say no (UPDATED)

To the Wisconsin Dems demands for a face to face meeting:

Wisconsin Democrats who fled the state more than two weeks ago to block a vote on a Republican plan to limit public sector union powers asked on Monday to "resume serious discussions" to break the impasse.

Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller appealed in a letter on Monday for a face-to-face meeting with Republican Gov. Scott Walker and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald "to reach a bipartisan solution to our differences ... ."

Wisconsin's 14 Senate Democrats left the state on February 17 to prevent a full Senate vote on the proposals, which were part of a bill to close a budget gap in the current fiscal year.

The proposals have touched off weeks of pro-union rallies at the Capitol Building in Madison and around the country to protest the changes which Walker said are needed to fix a state budget deficit.

Walker's office did not immediately comment on the letter.

And shouldn't.  The hell with these people.  They should get their butts back to work. 

Period.

UPDATE: The Wisconsin Senate Majority leader has responded... beautifully:

March 7, 2011

Sen. Mark Miller
Parts Unknown, IL

Dear Senator Miller,

Thank you for your hand-delivered letter with an offer to meet, in Illinois, about the business and future direction of Wisconsin.

Let's set aside how bizarre that is for a moment.

As you know, this legislation is designed to finally balance the state budget, prevent layoffs and create jobs in the real world. There are hundreds of thousands of unemployed or underemployed Wisconsinites, and at least 1,500 more whose jobs are in the balance because of your media stunt. We all deserve better than this.

In the meantime, members of your caucus have been meeting with the governor's staff, talking to the media, trying to find a way back to Madison, and contradicting your message in public. In case you don't remember, you were present yourself at one of those meetings with the governor's staff. Your grasp of reality, and control of your caucus as minority leader, continues to amaze me.

As you know, your opportunity to compromise and amend the bill was on the floor of the state Senate. As you know, you forfeited that right and opportunity when you decided to flee the state instead of doing your job.

Your stubbornness in trying to ignore the last election and protect the broken status quo is truly shameful. While we wait for you and your colleagues to finally show up, Senate Republicans continue to stand ready to do the job we were elected to do, here in Wisconsin. I hope you are enjoying your vacation, and your vacation from reality.

Sincerely,

(signed)

Scott Fitzgerald
Senate Majority Leader

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Dems...


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Comments (35)

Walker should remind Miller... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Walker should remind Miller that the place for discussions to take place is in the Senate chambers in Madison. And further tell Miller it's hard to have a 'discussion' when one party runs off.

It's past time Walker pulle... (Below threshold)
Pile of Pooh:

It's past time Walker pulled a Reagan on these whiners: shut down the schools for the remainder of the year, fire the lot of them, and put out want ads for teachers.

Done.

The kids will have to retake a year of school, but I can assure you the world will come to an end -- no matter how many Dems scream about falling chunks of sky.

Cut and run, then demand to... (Below threshold)
914:

Cut and run, then demand to have a face to face.


2 words.. Your fired!!

* - "NOT come to and end...... (Below threshold)
Pile of Pooh:

* - "NOT come to and end..."

Doh. Wishful thinking, maybe?

Hard to reach a bipartisan ... (Below threshold)
Hank:

Hard to reach a bipartisan solution with someone who's throwing a tantrum.
Scott should say no and Miller needs to act like a grownup.

There IS NO "impasse." The... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

There IS NO "impasse." The Republicans have the votes to pass the budget and related bills. The Democrats fled the state, which means at least 1500 state workers will have to be laid off within the next couple of weeks. At least another 6000 will have to go by next year.

Protecting their union thug buddies' revenue streams is more important to the Democrats than solving the state's fiscal problems (which they created) OR saving the state employees' jobs. And they dare say they are the ones "for the workers."

When the fat filthy Marxist Michael Moore is leading your protests, you're not for anything American.

It's like an incumbent not ... (Below threshold)
Roy:

It's like an incumbent not going to a debate. You don't have to do something when you have the leverage and position.

I don't know. If Walker has... (Below threshold)
Jim m:

I don't know. If Walker has an opportunity to further humiliate the senators I say go for it.

Fitzgerald just responded w... (Below threshold)
Howie:

Fitzgerald just responded with his own letter:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wisconsin-gop-senate-leader-responds-dem-leaders-request-meet-illinois-border_553056.html

I love the line saying "I hope you are enjoying your vacation."

I will opine of the genesis... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

I will opine of the genesis of this request. The unions have tried for weeks now to provoke an incident whereby the police would arrest and lead out in handcuffs protesters. That plan didn't work. The MSM is losing interest because eventually if it don't bleed it don't lead. Then Micheal Moore showed up in support where most middle americans have a negative opinion of him. So, the dem's want to meet the Governor in another state? No way. The dem's gambled and lost. Too bad. ww

Time is on Walker's side. ... (Below threshold)
Howie:

Time is on Walker's side. As it drags on, its losing interest. The Democrats cannot stay away for ever. They are not getting paid, one is going to have a baby, and their money is going to run out. They are going to be fined too. Who is going to pay for them to continue?

Meanwhile, the six recall votes for Democrats are one to two weeks ahead of the Republicans. The flee-baggers cannot even go to their home to defend their seats in an election.

The true flee-bagger game plan now is trying to save face, as they lose.

Do the taxpayers a favor an... (Below threshold)
914:

Do the taxpayers a favor and stay gone permanently.

What an eloquent and effect... (Below threshold)
Grace:

What an eloquent and effective answer by Gov. Walker. It reminds me of a time when well educated people could and did insult each other in the nicest possible terms. It is so much more interesting to read or hear something like this rather than someone the ilk of Michael Moore who has no intellectual grasp of American mainstream values. Beautifully done!

"Thank you for your hand-de... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

"Thank you for your hand-delivered letter with an offer to meet, in Illinois, about the business and future direction of Wisconsin.

Let's set aside how bizarre that is for a moment."

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that none of the derelicts really get why this proposal was, indeed, bizarre. Yep, liberalism is pretty much a debilitating disease.

"When the fat filthy Marxis... (Below threshold)
914:

"When the fat filthy Marxist Michael Moore is leading your protests, you're not for anything American."


How fitting. Poster boy for slothful do nothing lazy fat cat dems.

It was just a ploy to get r... (Below threshold)
Roy:

It was just a ploy to get rid of lots of bratwurst past their expiration date. Have an all you can eat for free day, and wait for MM to show up.

I would be nicer, if the wo... (Below threshold)
Howie:

I would be nicer, if the words Illinois and Wisconsin were underlined to emphasis how stupid that idea really is.

I am thinking this is Mille... (Below threshold)
Howie:

I am thinking this is Miller's response. Notice the part I highlighted. Maybe if the people of Wisconsin knew where you were, they could call you.

http://www.wxow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14204005

"The people of Wisconsin have spoken loudly and clearly over these last three weeks.

"They oppose Governor Walker and the legislative Republican's radical overreach that uses a budget repair bill as an excuse to try to strip workers of their rights and make a power grab that endangers health insurance for working families and helps seniors afford their prescription drugs.

"They also want their elected leaders to reach a reasonable compromise that moves their state forward.

"Unfortunately, the response from the Governor and Republican leaders has been to declare at press conferences that there is ‘zero flexibility' on the bill in question.

"Senate Democrats remain united in our fight to protect the priorities of the people of Wisconsin and committed to showing the kind of responsible leadership necessary to get the job done.

"We have made numerous attempts to reach out to Republicans. I have personally called Senator Fitzgerald and the Governor and his office on a regular basis but have not received return calls.

"I would hope as we move forward the Governor and Republican leaders will spend less time at press conferences and more time on the phone or at meetings pursuing a resolution to our differences."

Last week the Republicans p... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

Last week the Republicans passed a voter ID bill. The Democrat on the committee was on the Phone. He object but was ignored and told if he wanted to participate to come in person so they could vote.

The Democrats are slowly realizing that all kinds of bills will be passed without their say. The republicans are not letting them phone in.
The media stunts are losing power. The narrative is not resonating with the average Joe.

"The people of Wisconsin ha... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"The people of Wisconsin have spoken loudly and clearly over these last three weeks."

Huh? All I saw was a large group of union thugs bussed in for the purpose. And don't give me the stupid shit about them 'being from Wisconsin'. Local liberal rag was bragging about several UC professors who went there for a week to 'show their solidarity'.

Walker should pull a Christie and spell out exactly how the teachers union for one, is screwing the cities and counties with their own captive health care program.

IIRC, there is a building i... (Below threshold)
alanstorm:

IIRC, there is a building in Madison specifically constructed to enable face-to-face meetings of the legislators.

Most state capitals have one.

"The people of Wisconsin ha... (Below threshold)
914:

"The people of Wisconsin have spoken loudly and clearly over these last three weeks."


The People of Wisconsin spoke in November. Now do your damn job or resign. Either way stop the fucking whining.

Liberals.

The Democrats ran off becau... (Below threshold)
kevino:

The Democrats ran off because the Republicans don't have enough votes to have quorum for passing a budget. The answer is simple: take all of anti-union sections out of the budget bill they are trying to pass, and pass them as a separate bill. There is no issue of quorum around that: the GOP can pass it with a simple majority. Then, I'd write a measure that gives the Governor power to assign State Senate office space. To those Senators who are out of town, let it be known that if they do not return immediately their offices will be in basement. ("Here's a can of bug spray. Keep it handy because the roaches down there are big as Volkswagons.") And then I'd start writing laws making it a crime for Senators to flee the State in order to avoid quorum. The next move will be to send State Troopers to bring them back in handcuffs and leg irons.

The GOP should get busy.

The Dems are gone? <p... (Below threshold)
Jay Guevara:

The Dems are gone?

Sounds like time to redraw districts...

That reply is going to leav... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

That reply is going to leave a mark.

It's fairly clear that the fleebagger's don't have a clue what's about to happen to them. Cue shock, dismay and humiliation.

1. Upon return they will sit and watch as the legislation gets steamrolled over them.

2. Recall elections will eliminate all of them except for those in very safe Democrat strongholds and even that isn't a certainty.

kevinoThe reason ... (Below threshold)
hcddbz:

kevino

The reason why the Dems are in another state is because the Governors power ends at the state line. You need the FBI or US Marshals to drag them back into the state. You know the thought of doing a fugitive arrest on those senators would be so cool( i know they are not real fugitives but then they are not acting like real state senators )

The dems have lost this one... (Below threshold)
jim m:

The dems have lost this one and they know it. Walker's refusal to cave leaves them with nothing. Their only hope was to threaten and intimidate the GOP into giving in.

Today there were only a dozen or so protesters left at the capital. The dems can hoot all they want about some polls they had run but in the long term no one will remember this when the elections come around again. They will know whether or not Walker succeeded in putting the state back on its feet financially. If he has done so he will cruise to victory. Unions make up a small part of the voting public and they know it. They are desperate to try to hold on to their power and they see the writing on the wall. Their day has past and their influence is on the wane. Good riddence.

Call Dog the Bounty Hunter.... (Below threshold)
Howie:

Call Dog the Bounty Hunter. The big, bad Dog will get them back.

Wish we had a Walker Texas ... (Below threshold)
914:

Wish we had a Walker Texas Ranger in our State to chase the leftists out. All we got is a rich spoiled Dayton

The protestors all left bec... (Below threshold)
moseby:

The protestors all left because they were done raiding the Food King....

The answer is simple: t... (Below threshold)
MjM:

The answer is simple: take all of anti-union sections out of the budget bill they are trying to pass, and pass them as a separate bill.

Can't do that. Anything that affects the state fiscal situation - for good or bad - requires a quorum. Ending collective bargaining for pension and health benefits affects the states fiscal situation (for the good).

Walker does NOT want to fight this in the leftist courts of Madison (A.K.A. Moscow West), which the Fleebaggers would certainly initiate if ending P & HC bargaining was passed as a separate bill.

Wrong MjM. By your definit... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Wrong MjM. By your definition virtually everything would require a super majority. The rule is that any law that directly effects spending, ie appropriations bills require the larger quorum of voters.

You could remove the issues regarding collective bargaining, capping future salaries, ending automatic collection of union dues, requiring periodic recertification and pass them all separately. They do not have direct effects on spending. These are not spending bills but they will effect what is required to be spent.

Sure they could remove these parts from the larger bill and pass them but the appearance would be poor. Better to stare down the weasels from the left and force them back to mad town and humiliate them in person.

OUCH!! That reply letter i... (Below threshold)
Andrew X:

OUCH!! That reply letter is gonna leave a mark! Yeah, the Repubs are about to back down... right.

I actually had to check the first letters in each column just to see if it had a Schwarzenegger Eff You Letter thing goin' on.

It doesn't, but that was a classic that is tough to top.

Rock on. Great response. We... (Below threshold)

Rock on. Great response. We've been in the thrall of these people for far too long.

Screw the democrat cowards,... (Below threshold)
Olsoljer:

Screw the democrat cowards, you don't negotiate with terrorists.




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