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Yesterday, I caught bits and pieces of Representative King's hearings on radical Islam in America, and I learned quite a few things.

First up, I saw Representative Keith Ellison (D-Dearbornistan) get all choked up over a Muslim first responder who was killed in 9/11. It seems that in the immediate aftermath, some folks said that he must have been involved in the attacks. That was immediately corrected, and Muhammad Hamdami has since been recognized as a hero.

The smearing of Muhammad Hamdami was wrong, but all too common and quite frankly not that big a deal. It was quickly corrected -- unlike, say, the cases of Richard Jewell, the Tea Party movement in the wake of the shooting of Representative Gabrielle Giffords and the suicide of Census worker Bill Sparkman, and the current libel of liberal patriot (no, that's not an oxymoron) Brandon Darby by the New York Times.

Next, some of the statements made at those hearings drew a lot of heat -- especially ones like "we have too many mosques in the US" and "too many Muslims." Well, I happen to agree with them -- as long as the removals are targeted. There are quite a few very radical mosques, holding quite a few radical Islamists, that we'd be better off without.

A lot of folks also said that we should have expanded the scope of the hearings to include radicals and militants of several other bents, including neo-Nazis and the Klan and such. I would point out that as awful as those folks are, one radical American Muslim -- Major Nidal Hassan -- killed more Americans in the name of Allah in incident than the Klan, the neo-Nazis, and the anti-abortion radicals have in the last decade. Priorities, people.

And Major Hassan is hardly the only example of dangerously radical Muslim Americans. Faisal Shahzad, the failed Times Square bomber. Anwar Al-Awlaki, the American-born imam who is now a major leader in Al Qaeda (and whom President Obama has issued an assassination order for). Muzzammil Hassan, who started a TV network to push the image of peaceful, tolerant Muslims, who beheaded his wife. Adam Gadahn, a leading Al Qaeda figure now called "Azzam Al-Amriki," or "Azzam The American." Colleen LaRose, the "Jihad Jane" who tried to engineer the assassination of Dutch cartoonists who drew caricatures of Mohammed. Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, who drove his SUV through a college quad. Naveed Haq, who shot up a Jewish community center in Seattle, killing one and wounding several more. John Allen Muhammed and Lee Malvo, the DC snipers. Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar, who shot up a Baltimore theatre.

Those, of course, are all in the past. We ought to be more concerned with radical Islamists who have yet to fall victim to "sudden jihadi syndrome." For starters, I'd like to nominate the nutjobs of Islamberg, New York.

Another point brought up was how many American Muslims have helped foil terrorist plots. While this is true, it's also true that a lot of plots have gone forward with non-involved Muslims' knowledge -- and refused to get involved in stopping them. Hell, several of the bigger Islamic organizations, such as CAIR, are on record urging Muslims to refuse to cooperate with the FBI and other officials investigating terrorism.

It's also worth noting that Representative King received numerous death threats -- presumably from members of the "Religion of Peace" and their allies -- for even wanting to bring the subject up.

Infamous bank robber Willie Sutton was (falsely) attributed with the explanation of why he robbed banks: "because that's where the money is." That didn't mean that he robbed every bank, or that he committed every bank robbery.

Likewise, not every Muslim is an Islamist or a potential terrorist. It's not even a majority. I'd even go so far as to say it's a small percentage. But that's the group where the vast majority of terrorists are coming from, and refusing to recognize that in the name of political correctness (or, in some cases, fear of retaliation) is little short of suicidal.

Update: Jim Hoft, the Gateway Pundit, points out that the horrific post-mortem slandering of Mohammed Salman Hamdani simply never happened. Keith Ellison got terribly broken up over a convenient lie.

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Hell, several of t... (Below threshold)
Stan:
Hell, several of the bigger Islamic organizations, such as CAIR, are on record urging Muslims to refuse to cooperate with the FBI and other officials investigating terrorism.

The FBI has gone as far as listing CAIR as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Islamic terror attacks on this country. They also list CAIR as a front for Hamas in the United States. Oh yeah the SPLC is another far left organization that should be investigated.

For all of the accolades se... (Below threshold)
Oldpuppymax:

For all of the accolades sent King's way by many conservatives it's IMPORTANT to remember that he refused to invite the two most learned men in the country concerning radical Islam--Steve Emerson and Robert Spencer. Keith Ellison was given unlimited floor time by King, but these two men were NOT invited to participate. And although political correctness won the day in King's selection process, leftists are still whining, moaning and complaining. Sorry Peter, but you wussed out!

A lot of folks also said... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

A lot of folks also said that we should have expanded the scope of the hearings to include radicals and militants of several other bents, including neo-Nazis and the Klan and such. I would point out that as awful as those folks are, one radical American Muslim -- Major Nidal Hassan -- killed more Americans in the name of Allah in incident than the Klan, the neo-Nazis, and the anti-abortion radicals have in the last decade. Priorities, people.

Jay, has congress ever held hearings on pedophile priests in the Catholic church? I suspect there are more victims in the U.S. by pedophile priests than victims of Islamic terrorists, so it seems to meet your standards. So do you support such hearings?

Tina, you really need to ge... (Below threshold)

Tina, you really need to get over this "look over there" game. It's getting quite tiresome.

As I said in the article, "priorities, people." The pedophile scandal is largely history -- we're just figuring out what did happen. It's not an ongoing situation.

On the other hand, the Islamist threat is killing Americans on an ongoing basis.

Get your head out of your ass the past for once, Tina.

J.

Tina, how many planes have ... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Tina, how many planes have the pedophiles flown into buildings? How many pedophiles have opened fire on large un-armed groups.

Go play with your rabbit someplace else.

Keith Ellison can cry a riv... (Below threshold)
mag:

Keith Ellison can cry a river for all I care.

Well said JT. The pedophile... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Well said JT. The pedophile priest did horrible sexual things to young boys but the boys are ALIVE. Their families still see them and interact with them. The comparison is juvenile at best but I think a 4th grader can see the weakness in the argument.

Violence that comes all of a sudden, like Tucson, Oklahoma did not have the "terror" aspect. They perpetrators were caught. An organized Muslim terror network is much like the Mafia was Italian. Both needed looking into.

I will say JT that the KKK did cause years of terror. Their body count may be lower but they were organized to cause terror. But thankfully, they are now like a pesky fly. No harm just a nuisance. ww

Wasn't there a news report ... (Below threshold)
Kenny:

Wasn't there a news report recently that the US Dept of Justice has been involved in around 220 terrorism prosecutions since 9/11/2001, and around 180 of them were muslim defendants?

Considering muslims are only around 1% of the US population, it seems they are way more involved in terrorism than the average person, or even the neo-nazis and klan members.

I think we should all thank... (Below threshold)
jim m:

I think we should all thank Tina for coming forward and showing us the disease that is liberal thought. Tina makes the tired, ignorant and amoral claim that if there are other wrongs in the world and we cannot correct them, then there is no point to trying to correct any of them.

Once again Tina makes the liberal argument for doing nothing in the face of evil.

There's a reason that Edmund Burke said, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing". He did not say,"...for liberals to do nothing". He already knew that they wouldn't.

I think we should ... (Below threshold)
I think we should all thank Tina for coming forward and showing us the disease that is liberal thought.

Exactly so. This is why I every much appreciate that the Wizbang powers-that-be wield the banhammer lightly, and only after great provocation. We need to constantly remind ourselves of the sheer dumbness of the liberal worldview, and the sheer dumbness of the ideas it produces. If we didn't see it for ourselves, first-hand, we might be tempted to disbelieve its existence.

Tina makes the tired, ig... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Tina makes the tired, ignorant and amoral claim that if there are other wrongs in the world and we cannot correct them, then there is no point to trying to correct any of them.

Actually, my point was to rub your nerve the same way the hearings have done to Muslims. It seems to have affected you in the same way as the Muslims who are upset about the hearings on their religion. So now you know how Muslims feel.

So now you know how Musl... (Below threshold)

So now you know how Muslims feel.

They're amused?

Thank Allah. I'd hate to provoke the peaceful followers of The Religion Of Peace into an attack of Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.

J.

Jay -Check your yu... (Below threshold)
jim2:

Jay -

Check your yuku.

Representative Keith Elliso... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

Representative Keith Ellison (D-Miniapolistan) TFTFY No charge.

Ellison showed just how poor an actor he is yesterday. He pretended to cry over a pretend incident. Someone really should have called him on it just to see him really cry.

While Rep. King did not have two of the best experts in the country before his hearing yesterday he DID have a hearing.

THAT was a first.

Hey TinaS, look over there >>>> Squirrel!!!

They're amused?... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

They're amused?

Jay, you sounded more angry than amused. Just imaging how angry you would feel if congress actually held hearing on Pedophile abuse in Christinanity.

Tina, you are wasting elect... (Below threshold)
epador:

Tina, you are wasting electrons obfuscating with this pedophile BS. How about hearings into genocide in Mexico? Or 40,000 deaths a year in highway violence? Anything but what potential truth offends you the most!

Tina S,Since the p... (Below threshold)
Kenny:

Tina S,

Since the pedophilia angle seems to be your latest schtick, are you not aware of the Shakeshaft study concluding that 10% of the children in public school are sexually abused by teachers, a rate up to 100 times that of sexual abuse by priests?

Why aren't you concerned about those 10% of children in public schools?

Don't you care?

So now you know how Musl... (Below threshold)
jim m:

So now you know how Muslims feel.

What? That liberals are ignorant, amoral jerks?

I was already pretty sure they felt that way to begin with. I'd be willing to bet that the liberals would be at the front of the line for hanging and stoning if radical islamists had their say.

Tina, you are wasting el... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Tina, you are wasting electrons obfuscating with this pedophile BS. How about hearings into genocide in Mexico? Or 40,000 deaths a year in highway violence? Anything but what potential truth offends you the most!

I don't think any of those would be good topics for a congressional hearings. You see, the primary purpose of congressional hearings are for politicians to put there face in front of the camera and express outrage without really accomplishing anything. I don't see how any congressmen would be able to exploit the genocide in Mexico or 40,000 deaths a year in highway violence; therefore I don't think they would make a good topic for a hearing.

Kenny @ #17 ~ You beat me ... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

Kenny @ #17 ~ You beat me to it. Anyone worried about child abuse needs to concern themselves with the public schools, where children are far more likely to be abused - and where teachers' unions protect the abusers and defend them.

TinaS ~ The National Association of Stupid Leftist Twits called - you are giving them a bad name.

Tina Swift-"So now... (Below threshold)
914:

Tina Swift-

"So now you know how Muslims feel."


Yeah. Thats why Kings holding the hearings. We know all too well.

Jay, you sounded more an... (Below threshold)

Jay, you sounded more angry than amused. Just imaging how angry you would feel if congress actually held hearing on Pedophile abuse in Christinanity.

Boy, are you way off. First up, I'm an agnostic, so investigating "Christinanity" wouldn't faze me. Second, I rather roundly ripped the Catholic Church over that story quite a few times. You fail at failing.

Keep on swinging, though. Sooner or later you're bound to connect, kiddo!

J.

Fascinating, how quickly Ti... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Fascinating, how quickly Tina wants us to discount the threat from our southern border.

No big deal that criminals control not only a number of towns near our border, but have scared off law enforcement from controlling traffic, like say terrorists who want to enter the U.S.?

No big deal that the violence has escalated from gang warfare to execution of civilians, to wholesale murders of police, to targeted assassination of U.S. federal agents?

I could go on, but I see Tina has plunged her head back under the sand.

I'm an agnostic, so inve... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

I'm an agnostic, so investigating "Christinanity" wouldn't faze me.

But it did faze you. Yet you get all bent out of shape over the mentioning of it.

Fascinating, how quickly... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Fascinating, how quickly Tina wants us to discount the threat from our southern border.

It's not that I discount the threat. It just that congressional hearings are typically a waste of time and little more than political show boating.

Tina 'no facts please' S: <... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Tina 'no facts please' S: "congressional hearings are typically a waste of time"

I can understand how you'd believe that, after seeing how Pelosi and Reid mishandled their duties. But it's unacceptable to just ignore the problem. For all your paranoia about RC priests, I can protect my family from a rogue clergyman; protecting them from heavily-armed thugs intent on murder is another matter, entirely.

Tina, it wasn't the CONTENT... (Below threshold)

Tina, it wasn't the CONTENT that bugged me; it was that for two days in a row, you've played the "look over there!" game. In an article about Massachusetts corruption, you bring up bogus bullshit about Wisconsin and the Koch brothers. Now, in an article on the clear and present danger posed by radical Muslims here in the US, you bring up the pedophile priest story that was first broken about a decade ago -- and there have been (to the best of my knowledge) no accusations of new offenses for years. Yes, plenty of stuff of coverups and details coming out after being suppressed for years, but nothing about new cases.

It's not what you bring up to change the subject, but that you keep trying to do it at all that annoys me. And it's how pathetic your efforts are that are all that keep me from lashing out -- they're so lame, they're laughable.

Be honest for a second -- who do you think is more likely to try to kill you simply for being an American -- David Koch, Father Mike, or a male Muslim between the ages of 18 and 39?

I ain't holding my breath for you to discover honesty.

J.

"It just that congressio... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

"It just that congressional hearings are typically a waste of time and little more than political show boating."

True, Tina S - but this isn't, in my opinion, the usual posturing. He's actually asking questions that need to be asked, with other people doing the "Oh, look! Something shiny!" routine, attempting to divert attention elsewhere - toward the KKK or neo-Nazis.

Which isn't relevant to the flippin' discussion at hand, which is about Muslims.

I heard one Congressman today saying we should be talking about how the KKK used to lynch and castrate (probably not in that order) blacks in the '30s and '40s. Well - what does that have to do with 2011?

Is there such a reflexive aversion that even the mention of Islam causes folks on the left to run (metaphorically) screaming for the doors? Can it not even be CONSIDERED that there COULD be a problem, and that it's a good idea to figure out what takes a normal, nominal, peaceful Muslim (like the family I worked for, who escaped from Iran when the Ayatollah moved in) and flips the kill switch to on?

(I know! Too much XBox!)

Yeah, I know, other people have had it hard in the past. But - we're talking about today - not 1000 years back, or 60 years ago. Look at how much time and effort was spent on Toyota's supposed unintended accelerations - how about if we spend half of that congressional time on a much more urgent problem?

Next, some of the statem... (Below threshold)
Tina S:

Next, some of the statements made at those hearings drew a lot of heat -- especially ones like "we have too many mosques in the US" and "too many Muslims." Well, I happen to agree with them -- as long as the removals are targeted. There are quite a few very radical mosques, holding quite a few radical Islamists, that we'd be better off without.


Jay, would it phaze you if we also shut down some of the more radical churches? There are quite a few radical churches out there as well, some have raised donations for anti-abortion terrorists. Actually why stop at religous institions? There are also quite a few radical militia groups as well. Why not shut them down as well.

Tina,And how many ... (Below threshold)
jim m:

Tina,

And how many of these groups have committed or sponsored real acts of terrorism? None. You can get off you leftist high horse and come back to reality any time you'd like.

You and your lefty friends love to point out the bogey man of "right wing malitia groups" but the fact is that they have not been the source of terrorism that the left constantly attempts to portray them as. As a matter of fact recent acts committed by muslims have been erroneously ascribed to right wing groups prematurely with alarming frequency.

It's time you shut up about fictional terrorists and threats and dealth with the people who are really planting bombs and shooting innocent people in the streets. Then again maybe the reason you don't want to talk about the people who really plant bombs is because the left is full of former terrorists who have refused to disavow their former vocations.

shorter Tina S: !!!WINNING!... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

shorter Tina S: !!!WINNING!!!

Well I do know one thing. A... (Below threshold)
Stan:

Well I do know one thing. All of the left's posturing for the alleged underclass will have its consequences in the future. The very same people they have supported in the past and now the present i.e the communists of the last century and now the Islamic terrorists of this new century will come back to haunt them. Why one may ask? Quite simple. They will be the first on the list of the people that will be taken out and shot, if the enemies of this country get their way.

Tina, such as the Branch Da... (Below threshold)

Tina, such as the Branch Davidians? The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? The People's Temple?

I had no problem with the government going after any of them (although Bill Clinton and Janet Reno royally clusterfucked the Branch Davidian case), and I'd argue that all three, combined, formed less than a threat than radical Islam.

Keep on digging, honey. I'll even loan you a fresh shovel.

J.




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