Trevor Loudon is making an extraordinary case that would suggest strongly the answer is not just yes but hell yes and that the UN's Responsibility to Protect doctrine has everything to do with it:
According to Radio Free Europe
Those who justify the Libyan intervention on humanitarian grounds draw much of their logic from a concept which has dramatically gained ground over recent decades. The concept is known as "R2P," shorthand for the world's "Responsibility to Protect" civilians.
But what does this catchy little phrase mean? Where did it come from? What are its implications?
The United Nations reported in July 2009;
The Obama administration is supporting moves to implement a U.N. doctrine calling for collective military action to halt genocide. In a week-long debate on implementing the Responsibility to Protect Doctrine, the U.S. joined a majority of U.N. countries, including Russia and China, in supporting implementation of the policy. The doctrine itself was approved in 2005 by more than 150 states including the U.S.
The doctrine specifies that diplomatic options such as internal conflict resolution, sanctions and prosecution by the International Criminal Court, should be used first. If they don't work, then a multi-national force approved by the Security Council would be deployed.
In other words, if the United Nations does not approve of a certain government's behavior, and that government's leaders will not respond to sanctions and the threat of prosecution, they will be attacked militarily.
Trevor has much more, including names and profiles of those directly and indirectly involved.
It's eye-opening stuff made all the more interesting when we juxtapose it with Obama's decision to ignore Congressional approval before engaging the United States military in the Libyan affair and to instead seek the approval of the UN before committing our forces.
One can't help but wonder where the imaginary line is that must be crossed before a President is seen to be a threat to a nation's preeminence and autonomy.
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Comments (14)
Impeachment of the treasono... (Below threshold)1. Posted by 419 | March 26, 2011 11:22 AM | Score: 2 (8 votes cast)
Impeachment of the treasonous World citizen jackal has never been more imperative. It is not American and is setting up a one world government.
Recognize not its proclamations.
1. Posted by 419 | March 26, 2011 11:22 AM |
Score: 2 (8 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 11:22
2. Posted by Oldpuppymax | March 26, 2011 12:06 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Of COURSE he has. After all, that lets him off the hook in case something goes wrong!!!! Weasels like Hussein always need cover and someone to blame.
2. Posted by Oldpuppymax | March 26, 2011 12:06 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 12:06
3. Posted by Michael Laprarie | March 26, 2011 12:42 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Ummm ... well, I guess we finally know what "the global test" is.
3. Posted by Michael Laprarie | March 26, 2011 12:42 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 12:42
4. Posted by Woop | March 26, 2011 12:52 PM | Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
"One can't help but wonder where the imaginary line is that must be crossed before a President is seen to be a threat to a nation's preeminence and autonomy."
Another circle jerk of stupidity hosted by Rick -- complete with "Imaginary lines".
4. Posted by Woop | March 26, 2011 12:52 PM |
Score: -9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 12:52
5. Posted by jim m | March 26, 2011 1:13 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
I don't know. Ceded sounds so much like he just let it go through neglect. It's much more like he has hastened to give it up at the earliest opportunity.
5. Posted by jim m | March 26, 2011 1:13 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 13:13
6. Posted by jim m | March 26, 2011 1:15 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Another circle jerk of stupidity hosted by Rick -- complete with "Imaginary lines"
So when you say that someone has "crossed the line" you mean they physically crossed the line. I'm guessing that you actually go around and draw lines on the ground everywhere you go.
Geez. Ever hear of a metaphor or have you not reached high school yet?
6. Posted by jim m | March 26, 2011 1:15 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 13:15
7. Posted by Chico | March 26, 2011 1:49 PM | Score: -4 (8 votes cast)
Rick, you're as bad as Gingrich's flip-flops on Libya.
A month ago you were saying the UN was a joke because it wasn't doing anything to stop the killing of protesters in Libya.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2011/02/24/why-the-un-is-a-joke.php
Now the UN is doing something with US help, and it's a scary sinister force going to take over the USA.
I'm against the whole thing, but watching you teatards flap and flip is amusing in a sickening way. You were for bombing Libya before you were against it before you were for it again.
7. Posted by Chico | March 26, 2011 1:49 PM |
Score: -4 (8 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 13:49
8. Posted by Grace | March 26, 2011 2:27 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Chico,
I guess you just don't understand TIMING. Of course some of us were for bombing when this conflict was nascent, but wait and wait and wait and pretty soon, the bombing is not going to be as effective because so many of the protesters and people who could have been helped have already been killed.
The UN is a joke, and in this instance it is just a cover so that the President doesn't have to take responsibility for what is in actual effect an almost wholly owned U.S. operation.
8. Posted by Grace | March 26, 2011 2:27 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 14:27
9. Posted by 419 | March 26, 2011 3:10 PM | Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
I didn't realize Wizbang was the kind of site where assuming the monikers of others was ok.
S'pose I shoulda known better.
9. Posted by 419 | March 26, 2011 3:10 PM |
Score: 1 (5 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 15:10
10. Posted by Chico | March 26, 2011 3:22 PM | Score: -2 (4 votes cast)
Oh yeah, Grace, military forces and task organization and logistics can be ordered up at a second's notice. You can get lots of European and Arab nations to agree to join up to bomb other countries, they're raring to go.
Why Grace, you're right, organizing a military coalition campaign is as easy as organizing a St. Patrick's Day party, it only take a few hours.
10. Posted by Chico | March 26, 2011 3:22 PM |
Score: -2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 15:22
11. Posted by Andrew X | March 26, 2011 3:25 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Meh. I hate to dally with the dark side here, but I do have to think that "ceded authority to the UN" is a bit hyperbolic.
If a US Pesident gets it into his head to do every single thing the UN SecGen asks, as soon as he asks it, he still has not "ceded authority". He has simply shown the entire country and planet just where his head is at. If POTUS has the legal authority to do X, the he does X because (s)he wants to.
If (s)he has not the legal authority, but does it anyway, then that is an issue for the other branches and the people as a whole.
A far greater danger of "ceding our sovereignty to the UN" comes from courts that may rule using UN/International precedent rather than US precedent, or even from a sappy-headed Congress doing similar. But the prez is still the prez. If he is jumping through UN hoops, or Chinese ones, or Indonesian ones, or Vatican ones, whatever, that is his or her choice, and it is to us to judge and vote accordingly.
Which, by the way, we will. Make no mistake.
11. Posted by Andrew X | March 26, 2011 3:25 PM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 15:25
12. Posted by WildWillie | March 26, 2011 7:01 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Obama ceded leadership to the UN and France. As we knew the chickenhawk would.
To think our military, after seeing Egypt go down, did not have strategies for other nations in the Middle East goes beyond logic. Most of our flight logistics and support were already in the area. Developing a no fly zone could have been done immediately. So it is idiotic and of course disrespectful to think so low of the military but chico is a liberals.
I am not for the action because the commander and chief's heart is not in it. You should not and cannot lead the military tepidly. Obama was playing soccer and posing for pictures while the military was doing the heavy lifting. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | March 26, 2011 7:01 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on March 26, 2011 19:01
13. Posted by cali | March 27, 2011 7:34 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Me thinks, the endgame in this strategy is Israel. Obama couldn't achieve what he wanted; at some point he will force a 'Palestinian State' by force, attacking Israel.
13. Posted by cali | March 27, 2011 7:34 AM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on March 27, 2011 07:34
14. Posted by Brian_R_Allen
| March 27, 2011 7:58 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
This is an easy one to figger:
Sayyid Buraq Hussayn bin Buraq Hussayn bin Hussayn Osama is squandering our Billions of Dollars on the projection of our Military Force to the beck and call of the Euroweenies' Neo-Soviet's on and offshore member states need to protect their oil trade (some of it bought by the Limeys with the lives of the American victims of Khadaffi's Lockerby mass murders) with Buraq Hussayn's blood brother, Calypso Louis' blood brother, Khadaffi's, Libya.
See? Piece of cake. Very straight up and down.
14. Posted by Brian_R_Allen
| March 27, 2011 7:58 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 27, 2011 07:58