That's Lindsey Graham, Republican, on the recent Koran burning in Florida. He had more to say:
Sen. Lindsey Graham said Congress might need to explore the need to limit some forms of freedom of speech, in light of Tennessee pastor Terry Jones' Quran burning, and how such actions result in enabling U.S. enemies.
"I wish we could find a way to hold people accountable. Free speech is a great idea, but we're in a war," Graham told CBS' Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation" Sunday.
"During World War II, we had limits on what you could do if it inspired the enemy," Graham said, adding certain speech can "put our troops at risk."
Senator Graham should do some research on what WWII limits were placed on that which could inspire the enemy. I did and quickly found a number of posters that I'm guessing many like Graham would find offensive today... each of what follows was subsidized by the United States government:
I'm imagining if we looked hard enough, we'd find some anti-Germany posters that are as... brutally honest.
What I think we take away from this is that Lindsey Graham... is an idiot.
But I'm open to correction.



Comments (28)
Every time gramnesty opens ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by 914 | April 3, 2011 9:15 PM | Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Every time gramnesty opens his pie hole he proves he's an idiot.
1. Posted by 914 | April 3, 2011 9:15 PM |
Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 21:15
2. Posted by Bruce Henry | April 3, 2011 9:22 PM | Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Won't get any argument from me on that point.
2. Posted by Bruce Henry | April 3, 2011 9:22 PM |
Score: 7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 21:22
3. Posted by Saterp | April 3, 2011 9:25 PM | Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Any way we can trade him to the Dems for a Senator to be named later?
3. Posted by Saterp | April 3, 2011 9:25 PM |
Score: 11 (11 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 21:25
4. Posted by wolfwalker | April 3, 2011 9:35 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
I'm imagining if we looked hard enough, we'd find some anti-Germany posters that are as... brutally honest.
A rich hunting-ground for such items is Warner Bros wartime cartoons, such as "Herr Meets Hare," "Tokyo Jokio," and "Russian Rhapsody." Several of them are so grossly offensive (to modern sensibilities) that they were hidden away for decades, and have only recently been released on video. I think one or two have never been released at all. See also a book published a few years ago called Doctor Seuss Goes to War, a collection of editorial cartoons drawn by Ted Geisel and published in the left-wing newspaper PM in 1939-42.
4. Posted by wolfwalker | April 3, 2011 9:35 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 21:35
5. Posted by jim m | April 3, 2011 9:57 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
But we are not in a war, we are in a "kinetic military action".
Graham should give it up and join the dems. He's more at home with Harry Reid than he is with the GOP.
5. Posted by jim m | April 3, 2011 9:57 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 21:57
6. Posted by VaGal | April 3, 2011 10:01 PM | Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
He wants to hold people accountable? Good. SC, hold this guy accountable and vote him out!
6. Posted by VaGal | April 3, 2011 10:01 PM |
Score: 8 (8 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 22:01
7. Posted by Wayne | April 3, 2011 10:24 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Sounds like he is saying “If you don’t want to be offended then act violently whenever you are offended” and "Freedom of speech is only is when that speech is against peaceful groups".
7. Posted by Wayne | April 3, 2011 10:24 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 22:24
8. Posted by JJ | April 3, 2011 10:35 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Why is it that liberals never want to hold those accountable who actually commit the unacceptable behavior, in this case beheading innocent people? It's always someone else's fault, in this case a pastor thousands of miles away. More importantly, why am I surprised?
8. Posted by JJ | April 3, 2011 10:35 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 22:35
9. Posted by James H | April 3, 2011 10:42 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Limit freedom of speech during war time. When we're in a ... ahem ... war of undefined duration, with undefined enemies, and undefined metrics of success.
Some problems with Graham's stance, I think.
9. Posted by James H | April 3, 2011 10:42 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 22:42
10. Posted by Lgbpop | April 3, 2011 11:30 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Looks to me Jones is reacting to Muslims, not the other way around. Give him some more Korans. What's Graham afraid of, perhaps al-Qaeda will use this as a pretext to do something to us? Maybe fly planes into our buildings or something equally as preposterous?
Mr. Graham needs to learn the difference between being open-minded and being empty-headed.
10. Posted by Lgbpop | April 3, 2011 11:30 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 23:30
11. Posted by GarandFan | April 3, 2011 11:50 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
It's long past time for Grahamnesty to go!
11. Posted by GarandFan | April 3, 2011 11:50 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 23:50
12. Posted by Jim Addison | April 3, 2011 11:50 PM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Actually, Graham has a LIFETIME rating of 89 from the ACU. He tends to go off the reservation on some high-profile issues, like judicial filibusters, amnesty, and cap-'n'-tax.
As to beating Graham in a primary, good luck. The last elected Senator from SC to lose his renomination primary was "Cotton Ed" Smith in 1944. Former Governor Donald Russell was appointed to finish the term of Olin Johnston when he died in office, but lost the primary for a full term to Fritz Hollings.
And what SC Republican has the statewide stature to do it? Probably only Gov. Haley, but she will be up for reelection in 2014 when Graham is. If she's still popular, that would be a cakewalk, compared to a scorched-earth Senate race. And if she isn't in position to be easily reelected, she probably couldn't beat him anyway.
Nobody else is close, and no one in the second tier would take the risk - challenge a sitting Senator and lose, and your future in the party is done.
Not to mention that with Graham's well-developed national fundraising operation, a challenge would need $1-2 million to have a chance at success.
Sorry folks, Graham will tell you I've been a scathing critic (he does read and respond to serious policy letters personally), but I don't see him getting the boot.
12. Posted by Jim Addison | April 3, 2011 11:50 PM |
Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 3, 2011 23:50
13. Posted by Andrew X | April 4, 2011 12:15 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
I love that NRO Corner non-sequitur (can't say who said it) when someone just popped in to randomly say - "Every now and then I jolt upright in a cold sweat in the middle of the night wondering 'What is Lindsey Graham up to right now??' " LOL.
13. Posted by Andrew X | April 4, 2011 12:15 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 00:15
14. Posted by John S | April 4, 2011 12:21 AM | Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
As for the evil Japs. It looks like Government Electronics (GE) took good care of them.
14. Posted by John S | April 4, 2011 12:21 AM |
Score: -6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 00:21
15. Posted by 914 | April 4, 2011 12:58 AM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
You can't fix stupid.
Affirmative action tried and failed with Barry. The Sunday shows continually have Gramnesty international on and he continually embarrasses himself as a spokesman for the rest of the rino herd.
15. Posted by 914 | April 4, 2011 12:58 AM |
Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 00:58
16. Posted by hcddbz | April 4, 2011 2:05 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
I knew I had seen something about the Taliban Burning Quarns last year
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-09/world/afghanistan.school.torched_1_qurans-afghan-girls-helmand?_s=PM:WORLD
So maybe they can kill 12 Taliban members for each of the 850 books they burned.
you know these guys are tough guys I say 2000 Taliban beheadings for each book.
16. Posted by hcddbz | April 4, 2011 2:05 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 02:05
17. Posted by dlsada | April 4, 2011 2:13 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
A good idea??? What about a constitutionally protected right? A "good idea" would be to get rid of this buffoon.
17. Posted by dlsada | April 4, 2011 2:13 AM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 02:13
18. Posted by Bob | April 4, 2011 6:44 AM | Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Sen. Graham is not an idiot - but like many politicians (e.g., POTUS), he sometimes says stupid things when he is speaking without a script. This is one of those times. Unfortunately for the Senator, this is not the only time his remarks have been out in left field, so to speak. I believe Sen. Reid (IDIOT, NV) also made a similar remark about "looking into" Koran buring recently.
18. Posted by Bob | April 4, 2011 6:44 AM |
Score: 2 (6 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 06:44
19. Posted by epador | April 4, 2011 8:39 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
The kind of babble that encourages the enemy comes from the klutz of the likes of Harry Reid and Mr. Obama.
Using WW II posters detracts from your LG criticism. well you could also use political cartoons from the 1860's. Remember we still had whites only water fountains, lunch counters and fighter squadrons at that time of the 1940's. yes racism was quite acceptable then. When my grandfather spoke out against the Japanese interments his law practice suffered.
19. Posted by epador | April 4, 2011 8:39 AM |
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Posted on April 4, 2011 08:39
20. Posted by WildWillie | April 4, 2011 8:50 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
I find the whole "Don't do this or that because it would create a crisis". That is stupid. The Jihadist's hate americans and want them dead. How can you make then more hateful then that? I think we should start poking them in the eye more and more. ww
20. Posted by WildWillie | April 4, 2011 8:50 AM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 08:50
21. Posted by Constitution First | April 4, 2011 11:22 AM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Shotgun... Koran... Pull!
21. Posted by Constitution First | April 4, 2011 11:22 AM |
Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 11:22
22. Posted by Constitution First | April 4, 2011 11:25 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Senator Graham needs to be fitted for a Burka.
22. Posted by Constitution First | April 4, 2011 11:25 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 11:25
23. Posted by Howie | April 4, 2011 11:42 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I see Graham's point, but having the government limit freedom is where I disagree. Personally, I believe that the flag, Bible, Koran, etc. should not be burned, as I won't be burning any of them. But, it does not offend me if someone else does. What does offend me, is some radical using that as justification to kill people. As a country, we need to stop trying to appease everyone else and let them deal with it. If they don't, we'll we have more guns and they are bigger.
23. Posted by Howie | April 4, 2011 11:42 AM |
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Posted on April 4, 2011 11:42
24. Posted by hcddbz | April 4, 2011 12:14 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
1. This is an excuse for Behavior that these freaks do all the time.
2. Political speech is the protected. When I was in the Navy in the 90 I heard is was perfectly fine to Burn the American flag. No matter that I felt like putting a few rounds on target when I saw.
However i was able to control those feelings because I belong to civilized religion and society where that behavior is punished.
In war speech is limited to that which gives AID and COMFORT to the ENEMY.
Keeping with WWII posters Loose LIPS SINK SHIPS!!!!
24. Posted by hcddbz | April 4, 2011 12:14 PM |
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Posted on April 4, 2011 12:14
25. Posted by hcddbz | April 4, 2011 12:24 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Speech that should be limited during WAR.
1. Telling the Enemy when you are going to Leave the field of combat.
This allows them to let the people in the area know that allegiance your troops is not only stupid but unworthy since they are not going to be around to protect you.
2. Letting everyone know that killing of troops is sure way to cause people to waiver in support .
This results encourages the enemy to just kill troops not to take land objectives or other meaningful tactical or strategic goals.
3. Broadcasting what what your not going to do so the enemy know how they can best subvert your actions.
4. Providing Propaganda on your own troops to the enemy
5. Providing Propaganda on your own country to the enemy
In fact if you have D after your name in congress STFU
25. Posted by hcddbz | April 4, 2011 12:24 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 12:24
26. Posted by Tina S | April 4, 2011 12:37 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I wish we could find a way to hold people accountable. Free speech is a great idea, but we're in a war.
There is a way, the injured parties can sue Terry Jones in civil court. I don't think in any way the government should pass a law against Koran burning.
26. Posted by Tina S | April 4, 2011 12:37 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 12:37
27. Posted by John P. Squibob | April 4, 2011 1:39 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
What I think we take away from this is that Lindsey Graham... is an idiot.
But I'm open to correction.
You forgot to add various modifiers to the object of the sentence.
I will freely admit that some of the modifiers I would choose may not be suitable for women, children, small dogs and men with weak constitutions.
27. Posted by John P. Squibob | April 4, 2011 1:39 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on April 4, 2011 13:39
28. Posted by Madconductor | April 4, 2011 9:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If Graham wants to hold people accountable in their constitutional right of free speech, fine. But start with treason first - and shut down the New York Times outing of Bush's protection techniques. It changed the way we pursue wars. Until the Times is charged, shut-up about moron Terry Jones. He can act stupid - it's not treasonous.
28. Posted by Madconductor | April 4, 2011 9:57 PM |
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Posted on April 4, 2011 21:57