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"I was just blown away by the ineptness of the substance and the way it was delivered"

Congressman Randy Forbes of Virginia's 4th District, commenting on the Obama speech Thursday:

The Israelis were certain, he said, that the speech would not contain any major developments regarding the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. They expected the president to spend most of his time addressing other hotspots in the Middle East.

Obama did discuss those hotspots, but he also called for the borders that were in place before the 1967 Arab-Israeli war to serve as the starting point for peace talks. It marked the first time that an American president had formally taken such a position.

It would require that Israeli settlements outside those borders be reversed or be offset by swapping territory.

Forbes, a conservative Republican and persistent critic of the Obama administration, isn't happy about it.

"I was just blown away by the ineptness of the substance and the way it was delivered," he said Friday.

...

On Sunday, Forbes spent two hours with Israeli's prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, as part of a congressional delegation. Forbes said the speech pulled the rug out from under the Israelis.

"I can tell you that Netanyahu was surprised, and I think most of the Israeli leadership was," Forbes said.

The U.S. knew Netanyahu was scheduled to visit the U.S. The prime minister met with Obama on Friday and is scheduled to address a joint session of Congress later. Delivering the speech in advance of the visit put the prime minister in an awkward position, Forbes said.

"This is one of the longest times the prime minister will be away from Israel," he said. "To do this in a situation where he is not at home - it's almost unthinkable."

Netanyahu's reaction was far from inept nor surprising as the following CNN report shows:

As to those 1967 borders, the go to and related post of the day is over at Bookworm's place.  There she digs up a commemorative Life Magazine article dating back to that time and place and the suprising perspective given by Life's editors.  A teaser excerpt where they react to then Egyptian President Abdel Gamer Nasser's call for Israel's extermination follows:

The world had grown accustomed to such shows [of destructive hatred towards Israel] through a decade of Arab-Israeli face-offs that seasonally blew as hot as a desert sirocco. Since 1948, when Israel defeated the Arabs and won the right to exist as a nation, anti-Zionist diatribes had been the Arab world's only official recognition of Israel. Indeed, in the 19 years since the state was founded, the surrounding Arab states have never wavered from their claim that they were in a state of war with Israel.

Nor have they wavered since. Read the whole piece and come away more aware than ever of two things.  How far the press has turned against Israel since 1967 and how Arab hatred of the Jews has not.


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Comments (16)

Bibi has demonstrated a cla... (Below threshold)
epador:

Bibi has demonstrated a classy way to repsond to Mr Obama that until now the Right has largely avoided (Condi RIce excepted). Now, belatedly, any that take home this message and use it effectively could rise to become the leaders that bring America back from the brink of destruction.

A free history fresher with... (Below threshold)
Sep14:

A free history fresher without affirmative actions input.

What will Barry do?

Maybe some of our home-grow... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

Maybe some of our home-grown politicians will finally grow a set and start calling Barry out. Or would be calling an idiot an idiot be considered RACIST!?

The ruling rino class are t... (Below threshold)
Sep14:

The ruling rino class are too timid to take on Barrabus.

It will take an outsider who has no family and does not care about being attacked by the media 24/7. Does not care about skeletons or mystery people that will suddenly be brought forward to slander and lie about them.

Who can survive the politics of personal destruction and race baiting coming their way?

Its the manner that matters... (Below threshold)
epador:

Its the manner that matters now. Especially since The One made the treacherous lie that he wanted a more collegial discourse. Now is the time to give it to him. Daily, from multiple sources. On live media.

If they hear enough of it, the American public might osmose a bit of insight and class at the same time.

# 5, unfortunately the Amer... (Below threshold)
Caesar Augustus:

# 5, unfortunately the American public has been so dumbed down by 40 + years of leftism in the media and in public education a large chunk of them couldn't absorb insight and class if you force fed it to them 24/7.

That said, there's still a bit of hope to end this nightmare in Nov. 2012. To accomplish that conservatives will have to be both sentient and pragmatic, with an emphasis on the latter.

"Netanyahu's reaction was f... (Below threshold)
SpideyTerry:

"Netanyahu's reaction was far from inept nor surprising"

Because Netanyahu is a grownup that knows what he's doing - not a braindead manchild in serious need of experience and maturity.

You all do know that Bush e... (Below threshold)
Canuck Chuck:

You all do know that Bush endorsed rolling back to the 1967 borders during his Presidency, right?

What's changed?

It was only an inept speech... (Below threshold)
Don L:

It was only an inept speech if you're on America's side.

The left loves the rational people who give excuse their deliberatitons by calling them mere ineptness. They aren't inept.They are devious and ill-intentioned deceivers pretending to be inept bumblers. Why? It works!

Rick,Thanks for po... (Below threshold)

Rick,

Thanks for posting Bookworm's link, although I am a bit miffed at having to scuttle the post I was planning to write based on it. Oh well, such is the fate of group bloggers.

What is also surprising is how the Life authors pulled no punches in their assertion that the Arab nations were deliberately keeping the Palestinians in permanent refugee status, and had no intention whatsoever to integrate them into Arab society. Nothing has changed, 44 years later.

Canuck Chuck, the difference between Bush (and his predecessors) and Obama is subtle but important. Obama's predecessors always hinted at the 1967 borders as an END point, AFTER the Palestinians had sufficiently demonstrated that they could coincide peacefully with Israel and govern themselves competently. Obama moved the goalposts drastically by suggesting the 1967 borders as a STARTING point, which takes the onus off the Palestinians and places it on Israel.

In other words, under Obama's plan the Palestinians start in a winning position. Which history tells us, means they probably will have no interest in living peaceably with Israel.

You all do know that Bus... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

You all do know that Bush endorsed rolling back to the 1967 borders during his Presidency, right?

Nothing, as Clinton also endorsed it in his time, as every president before him has. But it's not going to happen.

You expect the United States to go back to it's 1843 borders?

re:6I only suggest... (Below threshold)
epador:

re:6

I only suggested they might absorb "a bit" of it. Not even a byte. It would be a start, and it could happen. If it doesn't, our deterioration is secured.

Got this in email. funny..... (Below threshold)
Greta:

Got this in email. funny..

Speaking to reporters, Netanyahu spoke of the injustice and hardship Mexicans have endured since American forces annexed Texas in 1845. “Tens of thousands of ordinary Mexicans were driven out of their homes – the only homes they had known for centuries – and forced to live in poverty and squalor south of the border imposed by American aggression,” Netanyahu said. “The Israeli and Mexican people agree on this: This festering wound will never heal until America takes bold steps to return to the internationally accepted lines of 1845. Clearly the settlement activity that’s taken place in occupied Mexico since then is illegal. When I meet the President tomorrow I will tell him to halt all building activity in Texas immediately. Two lands for two peoples, yes, but not on land taken by force from Mexico,” the Prime Minister said.
Asked if his hard-line stance could hurt the U.S.-Israel relationship, Netanyahu reiterated Israel’s commitment to America’s security and the unshakeable friendship shared by the two countries, then added, “But who was it who said, part of friendship is being able to tell your friend the truth. The ball is now in Obama’s court.”

The JEF in the white house ... (Below threshold)
TexBob:

The JEF in the white house is not trusted by any foreign head of state. Barry needs to get used to being told to "Pound Sand" on any of his inept foreign policy decisions including that of forgiving any debt owed by muslim nations.

You all do know th... (Below threshold)
iwogisdead:
You all do know that Bush endorsed rolling back to the 1967 borders during his Presidency, right?

If so, then Bush was wrong, too.

Do you understand the irony of defending Obama's foreign policy by claiming that Bush did it first?

iwogisdeadThe left... (Below threshold)
retired military:

iwogisdead

The left doesnt understand that the right has principals instead of blindly standing by the President on every action like they do with Obama.




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