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"This is the root of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians"

Overshadowed by Obama's speech before AIPAC on Sunday was Eric Cantor and his words before the same body.  He made the point far too many are missing:

The following story illustrates Israel's dilemma.

A Palestinian woman from Gaza arrives at Soroka Hospital in Beersheba for lifesaving skin treatment for burns over half her body. After the conclusion of her extensive treatment, the woman is invited back for follow-up visits to the outpatient clinic. One day she is caught at the border crossing wearing a suicide belt. Her intention? To blow herself up at the same clinic that saved her life.

What kind of culture leads one to do that?

Sadly, it is a culture infused with resentment and hatred.

It is this culture that underlies the Palestinians' and the broader Arab world's refusal to accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.

This is the root of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. It is not about the '67 lines.

And until Israel's enemies come to terms with this reality, a true peace will be impossible.

Brought to us by Seraphic Secret who has more on Cantor's words, on facts too many are ignoring and on a relevant video that brings Cantor's words to life. 


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Israel's enemies have come ... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Israel's enemies have come to terms with this. They are fine with it. It is her so called friends in the West that need to wake up to this fact.

"It is this culture that... (Below threshold)
Danny:

"It is this culture that underlies the Palestinians' and the broader Arab world's refusal to accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. This is the root of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. It is not about the '67 lines."

LOl. What a joke. Reminds me of the saying "Beatings will continue until morale improves!

Rolling back to the 1967 borders is the first step. It's the occupation of Gaza that is causing the kind of behavior described above, and everyone in the world except for a small group of religious zealots know this.

Thanks for the laugh though.... in the right wing world of "individual responsibility" ignoring Israels oppression of the Palestinians and the reaction that occupation has caused is just another example of Cantor's rank hypocrisy.

Elementary school children ... (Below threshold)

Elementary school children are indoctrinated with hatred for the Jews. Maps are circulated showing Palestine stretching to the sea, with no trace of Israel. Before there can be any "mutually agreed swaps", there needs to be at least one generation to grow up not being taught to hate the Jews.

Don't hold your breath.

"there needs to be at least... (Below threshold)
Sep14:

"there needs to be at least one generation to grow up not being taught to hate the Jews."


Well, it's too late for Danny, hopefully he will never have any say in this decision.

Gee, I must be totally igno... (Below threshold)
engineer:

Gee, I must be totally ignorant of World affairs. I thought that Israel withdrew from Gaza and that the Palestinians were governing it. But, then again, I'm sure Danny is correct with his assertation, and it would be racist or something to even question him.

Oh, and I've got to remember, blame somebody else for my bad behavior.

Danny says,"...ignor... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Danny says,
"...ignoring Israels oppression of the Palestinians.."

Rick's post says,
"A Palestinian woman from Gaza arrives at Soroka Hospital in Beersheba for lifesaving skin treatment for burns over half her body."

Am I missing something?


"Oh, and I've got to rememb... (Below threshold)
Sep14:

"Oh, and I've got to remember, blame somebody else for my bad behavior."

That's right. Remember we are talking 12th century barbarians here. They are not civil enough to live in a free society.

Are you missing something, ... (Below threshold)
Danny:

Are you missing something, DaveD?

The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories which have been designated as occupied territory by the United Nations and many other international organizations, governments and others to refer to the territory occupied by Israel from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria after the Six-Day War of 1967. They consist of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and much of the Golan Heights and, until 1982, the Sinai Peninsula. The West Bank and Gaza Strip are also referred to as Palestinian territories or Occupied Palestinian Territory. The Palestinian Authority, the EU,[1] and the UN Security Council[2] consider East Jerusalem to be part of the West Bank, a position disputed by Israel. Israel has annexed East Jerusalem by the Jerusalem Law.

What part of "Occupied Palestinian Territory" isn't clear?

The occupation is the root cause of the conflict, and the example Rick used is a symptom of the occupation and a reaction to Israel's actions.

But remember, the beatings will continue until morale improves....

"The occupation is the r... (Below threshold)
SShiell:

"The occupation is the root cause of the conflict . . ."

So how so you account for the 1948 war, or the 1956 war, or even the 1967 war? So do you propose to administer the so-called "beatings"?

The annexation is the resul... (Below threshold)
epador:

The annexation is the result of a successful war.

Which was part of an ongoing conflict that stretches back centuries.

Danny and et al are deluded. Ever wonder where the inspiration for all the zombie apocalypse/ pod people movies comes from?

Danny,What caused ... (Below threshold)
PBunyan:

Danny,

What caused the '67 war and what you refer to as "the occupation"?

"The occupation is the root... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

"The occupation is the root cause of the conflict"

So what were the OTHER causes prior to the '67 war?

Or don't you recall any of them?

PYHOOYA

"The Israeli-occupied terri... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

"The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories which have been designated as occupied territory by the United Nations and many other international organizations, governments and others to refer to the territory occupied by Israel from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria after the Six-Day War of 1967."

Yes, I understand this. Depending upon how far back in the historical record you want to go, although the UN designated these boundaries I believe the borders of what has been considered Palestine has been in flux for many centuries. I do not know what the historic precedent was for the particular boundaries designated by the UN in 1948 but I would be interested in learning of that if you know. If anything I would think the Palestinians should be PO'd that the Arabs dragged them into a war which the Palestinians had - alone - no resources with which to put up a decent fight and yet they are the ones that really lost the most when the shooting was over. I am fine with the Palestinians having their own State. Granted they "hate" Israel but they have also allowed themselves to be used as pawns by the greater Arab world in its anti-Zionist crusade. I think as well that a lot of the people in this country who "support" the Palestinians care not so much about them per se but rather more for the convenient outlet for their anti-Israeli stance.

Cut "Danny" some slack. It... (Below threshold)
Tsar Nicholas II:

Cut "Danny" some slack. It's doubtful he's ever been taught that Israel and the Arabs fought wars in 1948, 1956 and 1967; also, it's quite possible his parents were in grade school in 1967.

More importantly, Rick's post really does sum up the current conflict. The Israelis want to live in peace with security. The Arabs want Israelis resting in pieces.

Danny is like others that t... (Below threshold)
John:

Danny is like others that think Gitmo and Iraq cause the terrorist to hate us ignoring completely the 2 world trade center bombings that predate Gitmo and Iraq. But hey history is a vauge sort of thing, and losing a war you start is a bitch.

"Sadly, it is a culture inf... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"Sadly, it is a culture infused with resentment and hatred."

Heck, we have that kind of culture in the U.S. to a lesser degree. Certain sub-cultures within us are taught to hate, to resent, to think that their group is 'owed' something from the other sub-groups. "Urban culture" and "leftist culture" come to mind. It's not the white-hot hate of 7th century religious-zealot barbarians, but over time it's just as corrosive.

Occupied Palestinian Ter... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Occupied Palestinian Territory.

1. First there was never a "Palestine" country, except for British-held territory at the time they called "Palestine".

2. The so-called Palestinians were originally Jordanian (or more correctly, TransJordan, which is where they are actually from.)

3. The reason that the land is "occupied" is that Syria, Egypt, and Jordan decided to wage war THREE times, the first literally moments after Israel became a country. You know, when you go to war with a country, and you lose territory, you shouldn't expect to get it back again. Ask Austro-Hungary, or the old German Empire about that.

4. The main reason the "Palestinians" are between a rock and a hard place is that Jordan (where most of these turds originally came from) doesn't want them back, nor Egypt--and can't say I really blame them. Israel would be willing to take them if they were willing to integrate into Israeli society like the other Israeli arabs do.

5. Gaza is no longer occupied, if you remember, it was handed over to "Palestinian" authority several years ago, who promptly smashed up the infrastructure, destroyed the greenhouses, and elected Hamas as a shining example of how not to hold and election.

It's rather like Spain complaining about Gibraltar, while still holding on to Ceuta and Melilla across the Strait in Africa.

I am fine with the Pales... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

I am fine with the Palestinians having their own State.

Fine, let Jordan give back some of it's territory from whence the "Palistinians" came from in the first place. It's their fault in the first place.

Danny is like others tha... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Danny is like others that think Gitmo and Iraq cause the terrorist to hate us ignoring completely the 2 world trade center bombings that predate Gitmo and Iraq.

Not to mention the Lockerbie bombing, the Cole bombing, the Kybar towers, the numerous hijacking and bombing from Algiers to Lebanon over the past 40 years, the Israeli Olympic team massacre, and...oh, f--k, do I need to go on?

They consist of the West... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

They consist of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and much of the Golan Heights and, until 1982, the Sinai Peninsula. The West Bank and Gaza Strip are also referred to as Palestinian territories or Occupied Palestinian Territory.

1. West Bank: Originally held by the Ottoman empire, lost it to Trans-jordan, who lost it to Israel after 1967 when they went to war with Israel. So, no, never "Palistinian" Blame Jordan.

2. Golan Heights: Was part of Syria, itself originally a French Mandate (as "Palistine" was a British Mandate), lost in (again) 1967 when Syria decided to fuck with Israel. Blame Syria.

3. Sinai Peninsula: 1967, Egypt unwisely decided to pick on Israel, got their clocks cleaned, in 1982 belongs to Egypt again--and since it's pretty much a bunch of dry sand, they are welcome to it.

4. Gaza: Part of the West Bank until 1948 when Egypt decided to play schoolyard bully to Israel, and the border marked by the armistice (a cease-fire...you know like Korea, NORTH and SOUTH Korea). Of course, Egypt didn't learn it's lesson and once again in 1967...see point 1.

5: East Jerusalem: Was originally Israel, Jordan decided to not play nice and in 1948 captured it--became part of Jordan, and would have stayed that way except of course Jordan, stupidly decided to double down in 1967 when Israel took it back. Again, blame Jordan for this mess.

How come no one talks about "Occupied Palistinian Territories" when it's Egypt or Jordan in control of said territories?

Hm?

I am fine with the Pales... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

I am fine with the Palestinians having their own State. Granted they "hate" Israel but they have also allowed themselves to be used as pawns by the greater Arab world in its anti-Zionist crusade.

Again, fine, let Egypt, Syria, and Jordan set aside some of their land, put the Palis there...e Voila!...Palistine.

The occupation is the ro... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

The occupation is the root cause of the conflict

In a sense, true. Had there not been a 1948 war (let alone the other two), the Palistinians would be living quite well in Egypt or Transjordan or the French Mandate of Syria. The root cause of the conflict is Egypt, Syria and Jordan (primarily Jordan).

And while we are at it, Leb... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

And while we are at it, Lebanon would like to have some of it's land taken from them by Syria too.

Well Danny how did you like... (Below threshold)
John:

Well Danny how did you like your history lesson?

Okay Danny. Let's give Texa... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Okay Danny. Let's give Texas back to Mexico. Let's give New York back to the indians. Hell, let's give Europe back to the Romans. Danny, you clearly, very clearly do not understand what happens after war.

Also, Jorden,Syria and Egypt do not want to take the Palestinians in.

And if you want to talk borders, Israel and the other 11 tribes of Judah had that land for thousands of years. Let's go back to that. ww

The lives of these people r... (Below threshold)
Oldpuppymax:

The lives of these people revolve around a 1400 year old "religion" invented by a hyper-arrogant, pedophile, would-be dictator.

Danny's been schooled. Lik... (Below threshold)
Brad:

Danny's been schooled. Like Paulie, the driver in the Godfather, "you won't see him no more."




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