0bama will claim that his stimulus headed off "A Second Great Depression."
Like so many things he says, it's just not so. IBD provides the details:Did Obama Really Prevent A Second Great Depression?
By JOHN MERLINE, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILYIt has become a common refrain at the White House and among administration supporters that President Obama's aggressive efforts to stimulate growth prevented an economic catastrophe.
"We had to hit the ground running and do everything we could to prevent a second Great Depression," Obama told supporters last week.
Politically, the claim makes sense. Casting the challenge Obama faced as immense can help explain the economy's lackluster performance in the two years since the recession officially ended.
But is it an accurate portrayal of what really happened?
IBD reviewed records of economic forecasts made just before Obama signed the stimulus bill into law, as well as economic data and monthly stimulus spending data from around that time, and reviews of the stimulus bill itself.
The conclusion is that in claiming to have staved off a Depression, the White House and its supporters seem to be engaging in a bit of historical revisionism.
I'm shocked, shocked, to hear that the President and his supporters are playng fast and loose with the truth.
Hat Tip: Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds who comments:
In fact, it [the economy] did worse with the stimulus than they predicted it would do without a stimulus, but I don't think this helps the White House's case.No, no it does not.




Comments (17)
Obama's been claiming that ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Hank | June 21, 2011 11:15 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Obama's been claiming that for a while, that he prevented a second depression.
As with that absurd phrase, "jobs created or saved", it allows him to take credit for things that cannot be measured or proven.
I suppose we should cut him some slack. After all, he really doesn't have much to campaign on if facts are used. And the man has shown repeatedly, he'll say/read anything whether or not it's grounded in reality.
1. Posted by Hank | June 21, 2011 11:15 AM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on June 21, 2011 11:15
2. Posted by jim m | June 21, 2011 11:33 AM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
As with that absurd phrase, "jobs created or saved", it allows him to take credit for things that cannot be measured or proven.
Sure. obama has claimed to have saved jobs from nonexistent congressional districts.
This claim will look a lot less convincing (is that possible?) when we get the double dip recession with rampant inflation.
2. Posted by jim m | June 21, 2011 11:33 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 11:33
3. Posted by Sep14 | June 21, 2011 11:37 AM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Barry is the great depression.
3. Posted by Sep14 | June 21, 2011 11:37 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 11:37
4. Posted by irongrampa | June 21, 2011 11:42 AM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
And here I was under the impression that he merely prolonged the first one.
Tsk.
4. Posted by irongrampa | June 21, 2011 11:42 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 11:42
5. Posted by jim m | June 21, 2011 12:10 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
So the stimulus that Paul Krugman is on record saying that it was too small to have the effect that we needed is successful at saving the economy when only 15% of it was spent by the time he admin claims the recession ended?
Talk about having it both ways: It was an unqualified success AND it was to small to have an effect.
5. Posted by jim m | June 21, 2011 12:10 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 12:10
6. Posted by Sep14 | June 21, 2011 12:35 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
If only FDR had known ending a depression was as easy as playing golf?
6. Posted by Sep14 | June 21, 2011 12:35 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 12:35
7. Posted by Falze | June 21, 2011 12:44 PM | Score: 3 (3 votes cast)
Why hasn't the RNC responded to the 'Paul Ryan pushing an old lady off a cliff' ad with ad showing Obama, Pelosi, and Reid impersonators pushing a child in a stroller off a cliff?
7. Posted by Falze | June 21, 2011 12:44 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 12:44
8. Posted by Josie | June 21, 2011 12:59 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Whoa... so now we are acknowledging that the recession actually ended two years ago ie the economy has been growing for 2 years straight?!?! Better tell that to our candidates.
8. Posted by Josie | June 21, 2011 12:59 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 12:59
9. Posted by Caesar Augustus | June 21, 2011 1:10 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Between the "stimulus" and the Fed's QE programs the government has thrown around 2 trillion dollars at the economy over the past two years, yet the total workforce is much lower today than it was when Obama took office and will be headed lower still over the next 12-16 months. Ergo the labor market has gotten worse and the national debt and deficit pictures simultaneously have gotten much worse.
Proving yet again that while Keynesian policies might sound real "cool" in economics classes on college campuses out in the real world they don't actually work so well.
9. Posted by Caesar Augustus | June 21, 2011 1:10 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 13:10
10. Posted by jim m | June 21, 2011 1:26 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
If only FDR had known ending a depression was as easy as playing golf?
Given that FDR couldn't walk, having had polio, I'm guessing that playing golf wouldn't have been any easier for him.
10. Posted by jim m | June 21, 2011 1:26 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 13:26
11. Posted by GarandFan | June 21, 2011 1:48 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Sit back and relax. After all, this is the first day of the "Second Summer of Wreckovery".
11. Posted by GarandFan | June 21, 2011 1:48 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 13:48
12. Posted by WildWillie | June 21, 2011 1:54 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
It's official. Obama owns the economy. The DNC Chair prognosticator said so.
Sept.14, you crack me up. That was funny.
There is no way you can prove the stimulus did anything except make certain indicators actually go up, like unemployment, the debt, etc. What a bozo. The left must really be perplexed but just can't say so. They do not practice free speech in the Dem party. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | June 21, 2011 1:54 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 13:54
13. Posted by Jim Addison | June 21, 2011 2:42 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
"Saved or created" is a misleading way of saying, "I just made that number up out of thin air." But the Obama Regime is built on lies and deceit, so we shouldn't expect any better.
Even the White House acknowledges the joke about "saved or created" in the transcript from last night:
This was a DNC event, a fundraiser, so this means even people willing to give Obama money know he's full of it. Link to official transcript here: http://tinyurl.com/3h9oyoj
13. Posted by Jim Addison | June 21, 2011 2:42 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 14:42
14. Posted by Will | June 21, 2011 3:33 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
It has delayed the worst of a painful and necessary correction in both public and private debt markets. It has given the worst offenders who abused those markets (hand picked for rescue), the time and the means to survive such a correction with a strong portion of their wealth and power intact. It has destroyed the value of savings and increased those dependent on Government. The next neat trick will be to relinquish just enough power, at just the right time, to blame the next decade(or two)of pain on someone else (a time honored tradition).
14. Posted by Will | June 21, 2011 3:33 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 15:33
15. Posted by Upset Old Guy | June 21, 2011 5:12 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Jim A., while I understand and agree with what you said, that "SAVED or created" statement might be pretty accurate... as in" I haven't seen or heard of any layoffs in the public sector. If we extrapolate a number for public sector employees that would have been laid off without all those stimulus dollars (based on the percentage of layoffs in the private sector) Barry might be in the ballpark.
I haven't heard of so much as a teacher's aide being laid off where I live. The feds and the state governments have been happily sucking every dollar possible out the the economy. Dollars that could have been engaged in the private sector where capitol formation actually takes place. But he sure did SAVE those jobs... meaningless as they are to the economy.
15. Posted by Upset Old Guy | June 21, 2011 5:12 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 17:12
16. Posted by Sep14 | June 21, 2011 7:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Given that FDR couldn't walk, having had polio, I'm guessing that playing golf wouldn't have been any easier for him."
Tell it to Barry! He dug us out of a depression and he swears by it.
16. Posted by Sep14 | June 21, 2011 7:04 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2011 19:04
17. Posted by jim x | June 22, 2011 8:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Krugman didn't claim it was too small to save the economy. As I recall, he claimed it was too small to completely bounce us back. Effectively, enough to stop the rush towards the cliff - just not enough to completely put us back on the road.
For what that's worth.
17. Posted by jim x | June 22, 2011 8:59 PM |
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Posted on June 22, 2011 20:59