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"If America Wants to Ignite World War Three ... We Welcome It"

Iran's Hezbollah is just dying to strike the US:

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's Hizbollah, which claims links to the Lebanese group of the same name, said on Tuesday it stood ready to attack Israeli and U.S. interests worldwide.

"We have 2,000 volunteers who have registered since last year," said Iranian Hizbollah's spokesman Mojtaba Bigdeli, speaking by telephone from the central seminary city of Qom.

"They have been trained and they can become fully armed. We are ready to dispatch them to every corner of the world to jeopardise Israel and America's interests. We are only waiting for the Supreme Leader's green light to take action. If America wants to ignite World War Three ... we welcome it," he said.

Hezbollah of Iran does not speak or act without the consent of Iran's leadership, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in particular, and this guy more than welcomes World War Three. He desperately wants it. His shrill destroy Israel rhetoric tells us that he wants a world confrontation so he can usher in the Twelfth Imam, the Muslim messianic figure.

In fact, take a look at the language and imagery from his speech today:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday promised a "rejoicing" for Muslims in the Middle East "soon," the Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

Speaking to university officials in the town of Mashhad, Ahmadinejad said the "volcano of rage" at the "arrogant powers" was "on the verge of eruption."

Referring to escalating violence in Lebanon and northern Israel, he was quoted as saying, "The Zionists themselves have realized that they have launched a risky move and are aware that the flame of the fury of the regional states will set them ablaze."

America isn't asking for World War III, Iran is.


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Comments (60)

Hopefully it'll never get t... (Below threshold)

Hopefully it'll never get to the point of WW3. Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan appear unified in opposition against Hizbullah. If Iran does indeed "erupt" there will be great incentive for the Arab states to step in and quell the eruption.

Is there someone else here ... (Below threshold)

Is there someone else here that goes by the name "lee" besides "pucker puss" (lee lee)?

Iranian President Mahmou... (Below threshold)

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday promised a "rejoicing" for Muslims in the Middle East "soon," the Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

This whole "12th Imam" thing is getting a life of its own. It appears that Ahma-nut-job truly believes this and is waiting to launch - something. Others have posited that this is why Ahma-nut is waiting till August 22 to respond to "talks" with the US and others - although an answer to the "talks" could have been made weeks ago.

Today is the 18th. Ahma-nut has about 5 weeks to stir up the chaos he needs for the 12th imam's return. Given the situation in Israel, he's well on his way. I think Iran acting militarily in the current fight is a given.

Boy Lee, I feel better alre... (Below threshold)

Boy Lee, I feel better already. The great armies and air forces of Saudi, Jordan and Egypt to smash the Persian threat. I mean, just look at their track record with a puny little state like Israel...

If Iran is stupid enough to... (Below threshold)
retired military:

If Iran is stupid enough to commit troops openly or to attack the US then IMO they vastly overestimate their ability to survive.

Yes they can hurt us. Dirty bombs, chemical weapons from Syria (if they have them), etc. Israel will get large scale hits. Some American interests will get hurt quite a bit.

But I believe that if Iran is stupid enough to go whole hog they have seriously underestimated the American people. The vocal moonbat left may have the bullhorn but if americans start dying in large numbers or they decide to try to outdo 911 I think they will be seriously suprised.

Rack up 10,000+ dead american civilians and you wont see Pelosi, Hillary, Leahy, Kerry or anyone else talking about "measured responses". The first reporter that is stupid enough to stick a microphone in Joe six pack's face and start talking about the poor innocent Iranian casualities who are getting the sh*t kicked out of them will be going to see a proctologist to get a microphone removed from their ass.

The US wont commit ground troops into Iran (we dont want to have to rebuild the country). China and Russia will step in at least somewhat if we do to protect their oil interests. But the military capability of Iran will be decimated and you will see a change of govt.

Also if that happens count on NK have a nice big cup of STFU at least until Bush is out of office.

China just posted a big gain to their economy. Iran gets out of line and China tries to over step their protection it will be made known to them that the American consumer wont be too happy and they can buy their own products.

The vocal left of today may have the microphone currently but you will note that not too many dem politicians are out there saying Israel has to stop. If Iran and Syria get stupid you can count on a few doves becoming rapid hawks really quick. Especially with elections coming soon. Americans dont want to hear "we need to find out why they are mad with us" when there is American blood in the streets. Maybe a year later but not within the first few months.

I hate to sound as if I mig... (Below threshold)

I hate to sound as if I might agree with wee, but I think the he's on to something--maybe not the Arab states preventing war, but at least being a part of a "coalition" of sorts against the Iranians.

Remember that the Iranians are not Arabs. They are Persian.

There is quite a rift by history, and now by geo-politics, in this. Iran gets marginalized if they take it too far.

Our thanks to the great lib... (Below threshold)

Our thanks to the great liberal President Jimmy (Peanut Brain) Carter. He is the one that is responsible for the whole mess that is Iran. Him and the great Cyrus Vance. By kicking the Shah in the ass and installing the Mullahs, he doomed the Middle East to decades of hate and discontent. That President Bush is trying to straighten out the mess cause by the two previous Democratic administrations, does not make one iota of difference to them or their supporters, like Lee, who think that Bush is the enemy; not the mad Mullahs and their henchmen, Hezbollah and Hamas.

uh oh, stan a speaka da tru... (Below threshold)

uh oh, stan a speaka da truth

prepare for tantrums from da Left

Hopefully a <a href="http:/... (Below threshold)

Hopefully a map will help you feel better epador. Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan border Israel on three sides, and with U.S. forces parked in Iraq with our motors running - wedged nicely between Iran and Syria - geographically at least, this seems like a good, strong position for Israel.

Even if the US decided to remain neutral it would be easy for the U.S. to coughcoughfunnelsupportcough through the Arab states to quietly assist Israel, if needed.

Oh, and my policy is to ign... (Below threshold)

Oh, and my policy is to ignore trolls - sorry kids.

And this is precisley why B... (Below threshold)

And this is precisley why Bush keeps talking about taking out Syria. Iran will be completely cut off and surrounded, once that happens.

4 Words1. F*uck<br... (Below threshold)

4 Words

1. F*uck
2. You
3. Jimmy
4. Carter

He is the PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY a Liberal can never be allowed to be President again in our lifetime, nor the next one either

"Oh, and my policy is to... (Below threshold)

"Oh, and my policy is to ignore trolls -"Posted by: Lee

How do you avoid looking in the mirror?

So Ahmahdinnahjacket and hi... (Below threshold)

So Ahmahdinnahjacket and his Hezbollah toadies want World War III with us, eh?

To borrow from George C. Scott's wonderful portrayal of George S. Patton, Jr:

"You know, by God, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God, I do. We're not just going to shoot the bastards. We're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy raghead bastards by the bushel."

Oh, except I don't pity the terrorists. Not one bit.

So, if they want a war with Uncle Sam, I say we give 'em one that'll make the Crusades look like a scuffle between two kindergarteners.

Israels PM has reportedly a... (Below threshold)

Israels PM has reportedly already started to back down. Specifically, Israel has dropped its demand for the removal of Hezbollah from Lebanon.

So much for 'destroying Hezbollahs ability to strike Israel, much less taking the fight to the Syrians. The present Israeli administration isn't really serious, its just more of the same old, same old.

This is what I meant on a previous thread about Israel 'enabling' its enemies.

If the Iranians are stupid enough (please, please) to escalate in a major way, then Olmert's timidity will be swept aside.

In the long run, the Iranians attacking us now would be the very best thing that could happen.

Yes, lives would be lost. The longer we wait, the more people who are going to die. It's that simple.

I honestly dont think Iran ... (Below threshold)
retired military:

I honestly dont think Iran is going to do anything other than egg folks on and maybe make empty promises to all sides.

They will spew rhetoric but I honestly dont feel that they will do anything more.

1. Iran doesnt have nukes yet and wants them badly. Any military action by them would give the US and Israel more than enough justification to do another damage to their nuclear facilities to put that dream off for another 10 years at least. They dont want that.

2. Israel wont occupy Lebanon or invade Syria. They may pound the hell out of them but wont invade as in what we did to Iraq. They will move troops in but they wont stay long. It wont be an Iraqi type invasion at all.

3. Iran will gladly throw all the matyrs they can at Israel via proxy meaning Syrians, some Iranians, and Lebanese. They know Israel wont occupy either Syria or Lebanan but even if they did that would be like US troops in Iraq. Counterinsurgency would be rampant and the Lebanese and Syrian population wouldnt help the Israelis like we have gotten assistance from Iraqis.

4. The longer this goes on the longer that the US and other nations arent paying attention to their nuclear ambitions. Not to mention that as more and more deaths pile up even with Israel trying their best not to kill civilians there will be more and more hatrd (if that is possible) towards Israel.

5. The UN and other Isreal hating organizations will do their utmost to stop Israel from doing anything productive. Watch the video of Helen Thomas today from the Press conference. Listen to the calls of measured response from folk like Chirac.

In short Iran has way too much to gain and way too much to lose to take too much of a direct hand in this. They will gladly stir the pot as much as they possibly can and not care what comes of it or how many muslims die as no matter what they will bide their time to get their nukes.

Why fight when they can get their proxies to do it for them? Picture the left using Cindy Sheehan, the professor that got fired , Alan Combs, Chris Matthews, etc etc to say what they really feel so they can stand back, shrug their shoulders, have the MSM paint them as statesmen and they can claim "hey I didnt say it dont look at me".

Ah Hell let's get it over w... (Below threshold)

Ah Hell let's get it over with and do it right. Tear down the dome of the rock and rebuild that jewish temple so the prophecy can fullfill itself. A little armageddon with a touch of rapture never hurt anyone.

docjim505: I like it!... (Below threshold)

docjim505: I like it!

"Like shit through a goose!"

"We have 2,000 volunteers w... (Below threshold)

"We have 2,000 volunteers who have registered since last year," Man oh man! Not just terrorists, but registered terrorists. They must mean business.

I don't need a map, Lee, I'... (Below threshold)

I don't need a map, Lee, I've been there. I've seen their military close up both here and there. They've got a few good men, and some cool hardware we sold 'em, but I wouldn't trust their masses to watch my back in a well lighted fortress much less the Middle East - not like I'd trust the IDF to do their job. Even saying they are against H&H doesn't mean they're FOR Israel. They're just against the Persians.

Saudi's still limit our use of their airspace, they are such big ol' friends.

Dream on.

Ignore Ahmanijad.H... (Below threshold)

Ignore Ahmanijad.

He likes to say stupid things to get people riled.
He's Iran's "Bring it on" President.

I wont be so certain that I... (Below threshold)

I wont be so certain that Iran is without nukes (they trade with N. Korea). This is looking like a "rope-a-dope" to me. Iran's army (Hezbollah)was instructed to move against Israel in such a way to get them to attack. Why is that? Why now? Iranian/Syrian leaders know that Hezbollah army cannot win battles against Isreali jets and tanks - so what are they after? I'm thinking they want Israel to invade Lebanon so Iran can say Israel is trying to recapture land and use that as a pretext to drop a nuke on Tel Aviv. Is anyone listening to Ahmadinejad? For the past 6 months he has been saying Isreal needs to be eliminated - its time we took him for his word and figure out what to do about it.

Oh, and my policy is... (Below threshold)

Oh, and my policy is to ignore trolls - sorry kids.
Posted by: Lee at July 18, 2006 07:22 PM

And who the hell are you exactly? And why should anyone care?

Lee is a sad dysfunctional ... (Below threshold)

Lee is a sad dysfunctional person that hangs out here now acts like a supercilious twit. Don't pay attention to him, he's the village idiot.

I believe his Tourettes is in the later stages.

Hmmmm."We... (Below threshold)


"We have 2,000 volunteers who have registered since last year," Man oh man! Not just terrorists, but registered terrorists. They must mean business.

If they're also signed up for TimesSelect we're fucked!

Kim, JT, Paul, Kevin, et. a... (Below threshold)

Kim, JT, Paul, Kevin, et. all... are there now two different people named Lee posting here? I'm kinda confused. The one Lee has made a couple of comments that are both relevant and intelligent, while the other is the Lee we know and love...

Bloviating is the one commo... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Bloviating is the one common thread amoung all politicians, be they Persian, Arab or American. Have you ever known a politician that could keep his/her mouth shut , when a micraphone was present. No one is going to use nuks, since that would presipitate a like response, and we can fix the 2,000 volunteers in how ever long it would take for a cruise missle to reach Terhan.

Isreal is doing exactly what they need to do in this situation, which is take out the infrastucture in southern Lebanon. I don't believe they ever intended to send ground troop in. With the infrastucture devastated, Hizbola(sp) will have a much harder time operating, and the Lebanees will be forced to do something about them to prevent the same thing happening in the future.

As I have posted at Poli many times, we don't need bunker busters or ground troops in Iran, just a systematic destruction of infrastucture will change a lot of minds. It also minimizes civilian casulties.

In addition, the destructio... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

In addition, the destruction of two buildings sent our economy into a tail spin for 2 years. Just imagine what would happen if we suddenly had no bridges, dams or power plants around several major cities. The Iranian leaders will be trying to figure out how to get to work, not rile up the masses against the great satan.

"Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in par... (Below threshold)

"Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in particular, and this guy more than welcomes World War Three. He desperately wants it. "

What a load of rubbish.

It is not Iran that welcome WW3, it is America. America wants control of the entire middle east so that it can control the world.

Anyone with half a brain can work that out.

Mark my words: Americans need to realise that their leaders have become pure evil and stop them before it is too late.

"Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in par... (Below threshold)

"Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in particular, and this guy more than welcomes World War Three."



"Despite Iranian Hizbollah's insistence that it takes orders from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, government ministries say Hizbollah does not implement official policy. Iran's government has said it hopes for a diplomatic solution to the Israeli offensive in Lebanon."


It's about time the American people realised that small minded idiots are lying to them and read foreign press for themselves!

They must be getting nervou... (Below threshold)

They must be getting nervous?

WizbangliesQuick q... (Below threshold)
retired military:


Quick question

If the terrorists are not welcoming WW3 then umm why are they saying "We welcome WW3"??

I got it they are just kidding right. We shouldnt take them serious. They are just saying that because they want us to feel their pain. They are sending us a message that they have problems with their own self worth. We should sit down and talk to them about why they hate us right. We should emphathize. We should let them act out and ignore the innocent people that get killed because they are poor and oppressed and had a lousy childhood. We should simply let them do what they want because every last Israeli has the absolute audacity to refuse to just put a gun to their head and kill themselves so that the terrorists can be happy and all will be right with the world.

You have made it so very clear. Thank you.

What a load of rubbish.<... (Below threshold)

What a load of rubbish.

Nice intro to your writing.

It is not Iran that welcome WW3, it is America. America wants control of the entire middle east so that it can control the world.

Yeah, cuz we've found that owning other people makes them buy our stuff.

Anyone with half a brain can work that out.

...which explains the conclusion you arrived at.

IRAN WANTS A DIPLOMATIC ... (Below threshold)


And you've got their word on that, naturally.

And Hezbollah has Iranian-supplied Chinese rockets, so that proves they don't want war. They want somebody else to have a war.

Say, Pilot, my man, didn't Arafat send America a sympathy card for 9-11 too?

RAF PilotEvery thi... (Below threshold)
retired military:

RAF Pilot

Every think that Iran wants a diplomatic solution because it benefits the terrorists.

Any diplomatic solution short of meeting Israeli demands would mean.

a. An end to the war. Any warfare means that Hezballah and Syria (if they are stupid enough to get into it) lose.

b. A diplomatic solution in the past has been UN resolutions. You know like the one that said that Hezballah was supposed to disarm. We know how those UN resolutions work so well dont we.

c. That a diplomatic solution means that Israel stops the decimation they are visiting upon Hezballah.

d. That Iran says they want a diplomatic solution the same way they say they only want nuclear energy and not nuclear weapons.

Ever use that pea brain of yours to think that Iran could really care less how this is resolved and if they really really wanted a diplomatic solution that wouldnt benefit the terrorists that they wouldnt be supplying arms to terrorists?

Here is a diplomatic solution
1. Return Israeli soldiers
2. Disarm Hezballah
3. Have the lebanon army responsible for the security of southern lebanon to ensure that no Hezballah soldiers come back.

Simple easy diplomatic solution.

Anything short of that would be like the US saying to Germany "okay we won WW2 but you get to keep all of Europe and half of Russia just because we want to stop the fighting. And Hitler gets to stay in power"

Are you really that big of an idiot or do you just hate Bush that much?

don't forget that these ter... (Below threshold)

don't forget that these terrorist groups are mainly criminals and thugs that have gained political clout thru a governing clergy that operates on a facist theme: do as we say or we'll cut your head off. The leftist media and our Pseudo-allies (like the french)have given them power by recognizing them as legit! Each day the prospect of knocking over the U.S. draws more of the worlds loseres into these groups. Smash them now without mercy. That's all these losers understand. Do we care what those who won't help us will say? I don't. Besides, after handing out a good ass-kicking you seem to have a lot more friends.

You Yanks are retarded.<br ... (Below threshold)
Paul Jamieson:

You Yanks are retarded.
You guys are bankrupt and to busy watching fox news to realize the world is happy for you to go to war and get your ass kicked.
You guys just don't get it, Europe and the Middle East has been functioning and being profitable for thousands of years without oil. Yanks have been only driving SUV's for two decades. The quicker you guys burn your oil the better for the rest of us, and it will give us entertainment watching you starve when McDonalds puts it's inflationary prices up to $30 for a cheeseburger because the all might dollar is worth crap.

i think everyone is being t... (Below threshold)

i think everyone is being to blind to see, anyone who knows anyone in the world black market, and has instuctions off the internet to build a nuke can build one in there house "with the right funds of course!" these things don't take a country like america to build! i think they have them they just want us to think they dont until they have us in the right spot to do the most damage its just a nuke china has several pointed right at us AND WE KNOW THIS!

if america is smart, and we... (Below threshold)

if america is smart, and we are, we need to treat every country especially the little ones, who think there big enough to fight us, like they have nukes, there not stupid either! they wouldnt do things to get us involved unless they realy think they can win duhh! like nukes, chemical, or any other little thing to drop us to our knees! we need to smarten up and start defending ourselves not other countries we have done everything for everyone accept ourselves! how many wars can we fight at the same time? god help us all

It was Ronald Reagan who CU... (Below threshold)

It was Ronald Reagan who CUT AND RUN from Lebanon in 1982 signalling our weakness to the Islamist terrorists. The idiot above who blames Jimmy Carter and liberals, is, well, an idiot.

Oh my God...... most of you... (Below threshold)

Oh my God...... most of you advocate War and bloodshed. ENOUGH
i can't belief that all americans are as stupied as their President who is clearly addicted to war. yes we should all stop terrorism but not through victimization.

hey paul, we're retarded? y... (Below threshold)

hey paul, we're retarded? you've been functioning for thousands of years w/out oil eh? Your record of non-stop warfare during that time (too numerous to list right up thru the Balkans) should be an immense embarrasment! READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS!! We were BEGGED to intervene in the 2 most violent conflicts in history. (Maybe we should have layed back for some "entertainment" and watched europe and the middle east starve.) And today is no different. You'll pretend nothing is wrong until terror bites you in the ass (again). READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS!! We have always tried to avoid entering your wars. But beware: if the American PEOPLE feel threatened and say kick some ass, our government will unleash the same machine as in Dresden, Saipan, Iwo,Hiroshima, etc.

The ones of you talking abo... (Below threshold)

The ones of you talking about war crack me up. You fret and worry about this territory and that territory, who is the weakest and the strongest. None of that should concern you. Have you not noticed that this summer is extremley hot. We have to worry about the war that mother nature is waging on us to take back the balance of the enviroment. Man will always fight. Mother nature is the one thing that we should worry about because it has the absolute power and control over all of us.

by the way paul, you should... (Below threshold)

by the way paul, you should READ YOUR ECONOMICS BOOKS too. If europe's been so profitable for thousands of years how do you explain your pee-wee economies? And the middle east never had an economy until oil. (except for the dictatorships)

Hey ghamdan,
our president is not addicted to war. We've looked the other way each time we got hit in the chin (starting in iran). That's a lot of punches. This administration has the gonads to say enough. A democratic society has never hit us and we have never hit a democratic society. WE THE PEOPLE are by nature laid back and friendly. But if you hit me one time too many, I'll fight.

The problem with much of ou... (Below threshold)

The problem with much of our "foreign policy" in the middle east is that we assume everyone wants what we have and what we want. Yes, they do want an education, food to eat, a decent place to live, etc. but they are not us and we are not them.

We go to places like Iran and Iraq and support dictatorships, one after the other for opposing sides, depending on what suits our "national interests" (those of the multinational companies)and then we expect to be welcomed with open arms when we go in to "save them".

We aren't saving them, we are saving ourselves and our way of life without regard for the people who live in this region. The monarchies and dictatorships of these countries have, with our help, kept their people in desperate poverty, torturing and killing them. They have nothing to lose by strapping on explosives and blowing themselves up. At least then, Hezbelah will give their families $6,000.

Before these dictatorships were in place, as in Iraq, they were fractious tribes and religious sects that fought and killed eachother regularly. This is why they have dictatorships - so they can keep some sort of order and productive society. However, one evil is then replaced by another. (The Saddam syndrome)

Are we, with all our in-depth understanding of this region going to tell them "You shall live in a free and democratic society and work together though you have never done so in the past two thousand years." and now all is well? That's delusional patriotic and nationalistic BS.

The people of Iraq, with help of various groups and countries in this region, are returning to their tribal and religious roots and violent past. The reason that totalitarian religious rule in these country seems attractive to their citizens is because it may be the only way to restore any kind of order and peace.

There are no easy answers. While the majority of the real people of the United States and the military who serve in these actions have the best intentions, the powers that make the decision to invade these countries could care less about these countries, their people, their standard of living or any other aspect of their existence. They care about controlling the OIL. THE END

ITS SO SAD TO HEAR PEOPLE S... (Below threshold)


July 12, 2006- Israel decla... (Below threshold)

July 12, 2006- Israel declares war on Hezbollah in Lebanon. Many, including CNN, question whether we are headed for World War III. I believe that the answer is yes. We must prepare, humanity is undergoing a radical transformation.

It began September 11th, 2001.
The World is forever changed when terrorists attack the Pentagon and World Trade Center. Led by George Bush, America declares war on terrorism.

I noticed a common "apocalyptic" theme described by diverse cultures and religions, including the Qu'ran, the Bible, the Torah, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce and the Mayans.
These historical texts describe similar clues and signs pointing to an impeding cataclysm.
Combining historical and religious texts, and current events, I concluded that the 'end-of-the-world' will occur by 2012.

The following week, I wrote an essay accurately predicting many of the events of the last 10 years. I foresaw increased natural disasters, the Iraq, Islam vs Christianity/Judaism, the Arab/Chinese/Russian and American/Israeli alliances, culminating in a third and final World War.

All three major religions began in Israel and its neighbouring countries. The final conflict will occur in the same region. Arabs will ally with China, and Russia. They will face off against Israel/USA and allies. However a false peace will be negotiated and the World will have been deceived. The entity that brokers the peace will trigger the "final battle". Natural disasters will increase in frequency and magnitude. Contagious diseases will spread.

I agree with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Anan; there must be an immediate end to hostilities. This is our fate if we dont pay attention to the signs around us. We must make a concentrated global effort to fix the current Middle East crisis.

We face our most important decision. We must stop fighting now. Stop the hatred and bigotry. Lets embrace the values shared by all religions and our common ancestors: religious and ethnic tolerance, compassion, love and peace. We share the same God yet fight over methods of worship. Like a forest fire, nature will find a way to cleanse itself if we don't make a collective effort to change.

What do you think?

David, you make some valid ... (Below threshold)

David, you make some valid points but you suffer from tunnel vision: Yes, we invaded afganistan but we're not in afganistan for oil, they don't have any. Prior to 911 the US provided the taliban with +$45 million a year in aid because its people needed it. They funded hijackers. The Palistinians don't have oil under them and we have provided them with aid for 50 years. They never used it to improve their lot. They're living just like they did in 1948 with no effort to join the world community, just excuses. N Korea doesn't have oil and we provided them with aid to feed their starving people with the condition that they not create weapons of war and mass destruction. They took the money, said screw food and now make nuclear threats.
The US provides more financial aid around the world than all other countries put together. Money for Iranian earthquake victims. They took it. And burned another US flag. Yes, we have interests in the middle east, but don't be delusional, only a handful of countries in that region produce oil. The moderate regimes (the ones we actualy buy our oil from) have improved the standard of living for the average citizen. I'm not saying I like their governments but mass executions and genocide are not occuring in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt. Peoples lives there have improved because of oil.
Terror is a tool. Children are being taught at an early age that they will commit suicide for glory. That's not an act of desperation, those children don't even know what is going on. That is calculated warfare. Yes we invaded iraq. Too bad they had enough warning to move their weapons to syria. Our mistake in Iraq was not adhering to the Powell doctrine. Wake up! It's about population control. Taliban style vs. personal freedom. THE END.

Officer, your right the USA... (Below threshold)

Officer, your right the USA does give Aid. All rich nations agreed at the UN to give 0.7% of GNP to aid, but last year the USA was second bottom on the list above portugal of only donating 0.22% and the worst part was one third of it went to the State of Isreal!!(like it needs it). your also said that Afghanistan doesn't have any oil, you are right again!! but Turkmenistan does, and the only way to get is through a $2 billion pipe through Afghanistan into India and Pakistan. i could go on and on. but my advise is to get off your high horse and try to understand why America is the number one public enemy of the world ( having a stupid president does have something to do with it, but hey you voted for him, again!!!). Any way what i really want to say is that, in the past, the world looked at you at envy and admiration, but your actions have been unbalanced and unjustifiable of late.

i think everyone should rea... (Below threshold)

i think everyone should read adams log, everything that is happining is in the bible, im not saying im the best christian in the world and by far am i! but everything is right there in black and white! this is the begining of our end, the only question is, how long will this take? a year? two? fifty three? now one knows, there is no way around it, it will happen, and there is nothing any man or country can do to stop it. all we can do is try to postpone it for as long as we can!

Officer, thank you for the ... (Below threshold)

Officer, thank you for the good information. I think you make some valid points. I too disagree with giving money to these governments. " Give them a fish and they eat for a day..."

However, don't you be so naive as to think that we made these contributions purely out of the goodness of our hearts. We have a vested interest in keeping a lid on conflicts in these areas and in maintaining our world image as the "good guys", as well as, trying to win over the people of these countries for future possible overthrow of their governments. Certainly, the meager amounts spent on such "giveaways" pales by comparison to the hundreds of billions being spent on the Iraq war.

You don't see us running into African countries where famine, drought and genocide is out of control. There is no strategic value in this and therefore we don't bother. We may send some small token food supplies, some money or send a low-level envoy to quell criticism but that's all.

While we are fond of saying that "we are not the world's savior or the world's police force", we sure act like it when it suits us. If we choose to enter this arena, we should do so with care and impartiality. However, this is not the history of our foreign policy. It is all about power and resources. Try reading "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community or "Empire of Debt" to get a more complete picture of where we are, where we have been and where we are going.

I think there are many of us in this country who truly believe in improving the lot of others around the world, especially many of those in military service right now. The problem is that those in control don't care a damn bit because they answer to boards of directors and shareholders who want bigger dividends, regardless of the cost to others.

While we are watching the terrorist attacks and shaking our fists at them, hoping to kill them before they kill us, our civil rights at home are being eroded away and the three branches of government and two-party political system is merging into one "mega-merger society". We are running scared and unless we stop running and turn around to see what is really happening, there will be no democracy left.

We have more debt than any other country on earth and half of it is owed to Japan and China, yet we keep borrowing and buying because this is all we have left that supports our economy. Without consuming, there is no US economy here anymore. Almost everything is made abroad to feed our endless appetite for more things and bigger stock dividends. "Free trade" agreements are killing our economy. We "outsource" everything so that we can lower the bottom line at Walmart by paying shit-wages to third world nations with no pollution or labor laws and having a nation of part-time employees without health benefits . We are laying on our backs and drowning in our own puke and too stupid to stand up and take a breath.

We had better start learning how to speak Mandarin because our time is quickly passing us by while we are distracted by the "terrorists who are trying to steal our way of life."......THE END

David & GHamdan, you make v... (Below threshold)

David & GHamdan, you make valid points that I can respect, especially that we are an overindulgent society. Corporate greed is a boil on our ass. This is not limited to the US though, all the wealthy nations live like it can go on foreever. I expect worldwide economic depression on a scale that will dwarf the 1930's. It's nearly inevitable with economies that are so vast. Countries and peoples will become desperate like never before. Alliances will be formed. Terror will try to gain the upper hand and rule. Liberty will make it's stand. The sheep won't know what to do. Good vs Evil? Culmination of a species?
..with earth's first clay they did the last man knead
and there of the last harvest sowed the seed
and the first morning of creation wrote
what the last dawn of reckoning shall read.

thank you officer for the r... (Below threshold)

thank you officer for the respect, and i too agree with your last comment. As an african muslim educated in an american boarding school in England were i currently reside. i was one of the lucky one's who have met and latter became my friends from scores of international backrounds. i just want o say what my headmaster once said to us 'LIVE WITH US AND THEN JUDGE US'. We should all unite against all opprassive goverments and adminstrations for the good of our childrens and their childrens.
Instead we should thing of the enviromental impact we (collectivaly) are creating/damaging mother nature. Just because we all have diffent methods of warship we still belive on one GOD. please, do not learn how to hate but (try to)understand..

Good day to you ghamdan, an... (Below threshold)

Good day to you ghamdan, an observation if I may:
governments change rapidly. They may say this today and that tomorrow and be gone the next day. People change slowly. They hold onto their beleifs and opinions for years and even over generations. Governments cannot change that. Saying this, I believe that the US is probably the most tolerant society in history. Because of our diversity (the melting pot) we have learned to live with and be tolerant toward people of all walks of life. Yes, intolerance and bigotry do exist here but in an open society you'll hear about it and are free to express your opinion about it. The average American respects and befriends anyone who is likewise. Within my extended family are Korean, German, Polish, Filipino, Mexican and Native American. (holiday meals are awesome) My point is those who say that the US is intolerant of people around the world don't know Americans. WE THE PEOPLE are slow to anger. We're generous. (yes the government gives a percent of GNP to countries around the world as charity but I refered previously to the generosity of the PEOPLE to give their own money freely to disaster victims or good causes around the world;independently) We are generally quite tolerant of all. That doesn't change, regardless of any current administration. Those who would make war on the American people because of our foreign policy have not considered their own leaders failure to communicate with the soul of America - the people. (we can over rule Washington when we are loud enough to scare them)But what we do see, what is communicated to us in grand fashion is the extremist's choreographed demonstrations of hate toward people they don't know. We also see a genocidal hatred toward Israel that is centuries old. We wonder - Why won't they tolerate Israel?
Live and let live I say.
On another note: We are abusing the Mother. She will heal Herself at our expense though. That's only right. Anyone who hurts their mother SHOULD be punished.

Islam has less than thirty ... (Below threshold)

Islam has less than thirty years to cocomplete its
qwest for world domination with Isalamic law.
China and Russia will be fightng over the scarps,

In this world, it is who will thow the frist punch. In a sreet fight the game is to WIN.
We are in a sreet fight right now.

It is refreshing to see som... (Below threshold)

It is refreshing to see some real dialogue between people with different viewpoints. Officer and Ghamdan, you are both passionate about making the world a better place and reducing the violence in it, though you have differing opinions about how to make this happen.

If we had more discussion between opposing viewpoints, there might be a path to working through differences over time.

Officer, unfortunately, I agree with almost all that you have said. It will take a catastrophic set of events to get people's attention and we are well on our way to experiencing them.

Let's hope we can learn to see the individual struggles that are behind the governments and leaders of the countries and get past the long history of violence and hatred that has taken on a life of its own.

I think we are seeing the uneducated, the frustrated, the angry, the resentful, the impotent, the poor and powerless who are desparate enough to try anything - even blowing themselves up or threatening nuclear annihilation to get our attention. They are being led by the "Hitlers" of their own countries at a time when everyone of reason in their countries has given up. The turmoil is great and hope is gone for most of them.

In order for these dictators and murderers to be overthrown, the people in these countries must have hope, must have decent jobs and be better educated. When children are throwing rocks at tanks and carrying machine guns, society has dissolved. I believe that this can only be overcome one person and one community at a time.

Why do Palestinians support Hamas and the Lebonese support Hezbalah? Because they provide healthcare, food, water, schools, shelter, help them rebuild after bombings and they fight perceived agressions against them and give them some sense of dignity (as distorted as it may be).

We will never win this "war on terrorism" with bullets and bombs alone because we are fighting the symptoms and not the disease.

David, Our world leaders sh... (Below threshold)

David, Our world leaders should have your insight. Reasonable people (worldwide)need a binding tie that is beyond governments or groups. One that allows change for good to feed and grow as awareness of that avenue grows.
Create that forum or mechanism, ?whatever it is, and change history. Maybe it's at our fingertips right now......

World War 3 - Brought to yo... (Below threshold)

World War 3 - Brought to you by US and Israel

Heres a good idea. Lets ha... (Below threshold)
Ron Soldwish:

Heres a good idea. Lets have 2 men who belive in an inviable man talks to them from the heavens, and who also belive that the end of the world is coming have their hand on the button of our nukes.

Lets try a little True/False
1. A 100 ton plane can disaper into the ground in the middle of Pennslyvania like quick sand.

2. A 100 ton plane can disaper into a building leaving only a 16 x 16 ft hole and no wrekage outside on the lawn (PENTAGON).

3. The the best Miltrary in the world just "fumbled the ball" on 9/11.

4. 3 High rise buildings, for the 1st time in the history of mankind, collapsed due to fire damage, all on the same day.

5. Presidant Bush on 9/11 was just trying to keep the children calm.

If you answered FALSE to each one of the questions above please cont to read this, if not your fking stupid and STOP now!!!!!

Q1> google mayor of Shanksville "there was no plane"

Q2> goto hunt the boing.com

Q3> talk show host Alex Jones asked Michael Moore
"why didnt you mention how NORAD stood down that day" "that would have been unAmerican"-MM


05> President Bush and Donald Rumsfield were the only 2 people who could have given the order to shoot down any planes on 9/11. Too bad they were reading childrens books and helping people to medical help at the pentagon. And why wasnt Rumsfield worried that a 2nd plane was going to hit the pentagon, because he knew there wasnt going to be one!

Thanks to all you have a brain right>?

lets all be glad ron soldwi... (Below threshold)

lets all be glad ron soldwish has nothing to do with anything in our government!






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