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Freedom Is Evil When Used to Promote Evil

Iran's Hitler-esque President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, addressed the faculty and students of Columbia University yesterday, accorded more respect and honor than many worthier alternatives, such as a certain former President of Harvard. President Ahmadinejad's surreal portrayal of Iran as a sublime paradise of Justice and Peace, where no one is homosexual or sexist or hateful in any way, combined with his sneering derision of the ideals and practices of the country hosting his visit, is reasonably reminiscent of Adolf Hitler, who also assured his neighbors that he was a peaceful man who merely wanted 'lebensraum', and who simply asserted his country's natural desire for Justice. Ahmadinejad presides over a government which murders people for having sex out of wedlock, which includes any homosexual act, and ruthlessly suppresses criticism and free speech in Iran, yet he has no shortage of supporters and allies demanding he be allowed a stage and a live microphone anywhere and anytime he desires, all in the name of Free Speech. Few people seem to have considered the validity of that claim.

The odd thing, President Ahmadinejad has never faced the same sort of censorship his own regime employs. His opinion and statements have a large and ready audience, and there is no need - whatsoever - for a prestigious university to grant him prominence so that he can express his views. Therefore, the only logical reason for Columbia University to have agreed to host this monster from Teheran, was either out of a perverse thirst for publicity, or else agreement in general of his statements and motives. Given the high level of education of its alumni and regents, and the long-established procedures for inviting their selected guest speakers, it is implausible beyond possibility for this to have been an honest error, or merely exercise of a noble ideal. Make no mistake, Columbia's masters wanted the damnable man standing at a lectern under their banner, as some proud accomplishment of Columbia and all it stands for.

But it needs addressing, this peculiar notion that monsters have a moral right to be allowed to say whatever they like. I find it strange, that the mandarins at Columbia did not consider that they had a greater moral responsibility to present the opinions of the oppressed in Iran, say those Iranian students willing to defy the mullahs, or young Iranian women told that unless they obey the strict misogynist laws from a 7th-Century madman, they will be hanged. Perhaps a few of those homosexuals Mr. Ahmadinejad says do not exist in Iran, might be allowed their opportunity to rebut that claim? But no, doing the right thing, the just thing, that is not the 'Columbia Way', it appears. But we must wonder why only a tyrant deserves a stage?

But there is more. Voltaire defended the right to even that speech he despised, but even Voltaire did not suggest that speech he despised should be elevated and repeated well ahead of the words of wise and righteous men. It is well enough to know what a monster is about; it is quite beyond the pale to grant advantage and prominence to the thug in that exposition. Some defenders of the monster in question have suggested that allowing Ahmadinejad to speak will reveal him in all his absurdity, and somehow this may dissuade him from advancing his mania into action. But anyone who has read 'Mein Kampf' should be aware that evil men often grow in their arrogance from such attention; Hitler said what he meant to do, was allowed to talk at length and on countless occasions during the 1930s, and then he simply did what he had said he would do. With nuclear weapons under development, construction of submarines and military aircraft underway, sponsorship of dozens of terrorist groups and an army training incessantly for something, just how 'astonishingly uneducated' - to coin a phrase - would someone have to be to recognize that granting Ahmadinejad yet another big stage to feel important, is only going to increase the cost when his confidence finally crosses that point where he feels ready to launch the overt phase of Jihad against the Western world? Allowing Ahmadinejad the façade of eminence and respectability, is no more sane than trusting Charles Manson to raise your kids; he is quite simply that mad, that evil.


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Well DJ, I think we benefit... (Below threshold)

Well DJ, I think we benefit from a free market place of ideas. It means good ideas live and bad ideas die. With people becoming inoculated to bad ideas in the process.

Therefore, keeping freedom available to everyone, enables bad ideas to be flushed out into the open, and be defeated. This includes monsters.

In addition, since no one is God and knows everything, it's impossible for any one person to be right about what's evil and what's not. Therefore, to have any one ideology in charge of a society's definition of vague concepts like "evil" and "monster", will eventually derail the entire society.

That means tools like Ahmadinejad speak, and their lousy foolish ideas get shot down like the worthless things they are.

As for respect - heads of state are entitled to that until we actually go to war. I think the visiting PM of Israel, Poland, Pakistan, Germany, or Burundi for that matter. (I understand the heir to Burundi's throne is actually currently in Queens, looking for his mate.)

Well Jim, the difference is... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Well Jim, the difference is that we all know evry well what Ahmadinejad thinks; how about his opposition, and why on earth does a filthy monster like him deserve the stage at an Ivy League school?

And while no one is perfect, there most certain ly are people whose words and ideals are far more commendable and praiseworthy than Mahmoud 'Islam only for the bloody' Ahmadinejad.

And no, a head of state is treated with respect for his office by the host country's government, and he or she should reciprocate that respect. For Columbia, a private school, to embrace this monster is not mere protocol, and in any case his choice of words belies his presumed stature as a statesman.

It's like pretending John Gotti was just a misunderstood businessman, to pretend Ahmadinejad deserves the accolades heaped upon him.

DJ, your invocation of Volt... (Below threshold)

DJ, your invocation of Voltaire in a know-nothing post like this frooling is an absolute affront to a man who valued reason & rationality.

I suspect that the only use that Voltaire would find for your posts or most of the irrational brain-dead posts here at Wizbang would be to print them out & use them for toilet paper.

I know Voltaire, DJ; he was a friend of mine. You sir, are not even close to the reason of Voltaire, and, with your ignorant rants, would never have been permitted to even darken the doorstep of one of his Parisian salons.

FF, you are a liar. You ca... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

FF, you are a liar. You can barely spell 'Voltaire', so for you to claim that he was your buddy illustrates not only your abysmal sense of context, but your lack of dilative chronological disparity.

Your insults do not rise to the level of even insipidity. Please ask the person reading this to you, to explain the big words. They are quite obviously beyond your scope, and your arguments are the rhetorical equivalent of a full, overdue diaper every time you attempt to answer your betters.

So now FreedomFries is High... (Below threshold)

So now FreedomFries is Highlander...

"I know Voltaire, DJ; he wa... (Below threshold)

"I know Voltaire, DJ; he was a friend of mine."

And they claim they live in the "real world"!!!!

Jim:Well DJ, I... (Below threshold)


Well DJ, I think we benefit from a free market place of ideas. It means good ideas live and bad ideas die. With people becoming inoculated to bad ideas in the process.

So what does that mean? That you have never heard or read any speeches or quotes uttered by Ahmadi-jihadist?

That there has been a complete blackout? The the evil "neocons" have successfully prevented every U.S. based media outlet from airing Ahmadi-jihadist's world view?

Must be another Rovian plot I tell ya!!!

Let me spell it out fer ya: H.O.R.S.E.S.H.I.T!

Everyone knows what he stands for whether you agree with him or not, the "free market place" of the MSM has made sure of that. (and for what's it's worth that's a good thing)

Columbia didn't need to jump on that bandwagon.

DJ,This is another... (Below threshold)


This is another instance where the philosophy that everything is relative hurts society. Yes, freedom of speech, but it doesn't mean all speech is equally valuable. Some speech is harmful and evil (even if allowed), and for that reason it is not purposefully given a place it does not deserve.

There is a standard for what is good and elevating and honorable speech, and we need to purposefully seek to give opportunity for its utterance. There is a reason why there is a tradition of having a commencement speaker that is respected by a good standard, versus having those outside that standard (i.e. having Charles Manson be the speaker to prove that you honor freedom of speech).

That line of reasoning also leads me to think that we should ban people like FreedomFries and mantis and barney, because most threads become threads where we just disagree heatedly then move on. Threads should instead here at Wizbang be between conservatives, to advance and discuss ideas to further the conservative movement for our country. This should be able to be done in a cordial and respectful and productive manner, instead of having to just respond to the lunacy of the left.

Well put.There was... (Below threshold)

Well put.

There was not the slightest benefit to bringing Ahmadinejad to Columbia. Students, like anyone else with an internet connection, can read online every word of every speech he gives almost immediately after he gives it. His opinions are not suppressed in any way.

Now, some might argue giving the chance to question his outrageous pontifications is worthwhile. This falls under the category of ideas which sound wonderful in the theoretical, but fail under experimentation. Note, for example, Ahmadinejad's answers to questions posed, both by Bollinger and the students. Nothing but evasion of direct responses and retreat into his propaganda points. For this, we needed him on the stage?

Naturally, his allies here will defend the decision, as in their comments above. I submit their rallying to him probably damages his reputation as much as it does their own (if any).

By the way, the leftward tu... (Below threshold)

By the way, the leftward turn in favor of liberal commencement speakers being chosen does not qualify as meeting a good standard. The tradition is being abused by a fraudulent system of higher education.

Anyone catching Ahmadinijad... (Below threshold)

Anyone catching Ahmadinijad's tripe spewing at the UN, right now?

Classic, I tells ya', classic.

Move along, there is absolu... (Below threshold)

Move along, there is absolutely NO propaganda to be gained by a Columbia Uni speach, none. Nothing to see... MOVE ALONG!

RE: Islamic Republic News Agency

Sept 25,2007

Despite entire US media objections, negative propagation and hue and cry in recent days over IRI President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's scheduled address at Colombia University, he gave his lecture and answered students questions here on Monday afternoon.

On second day of his entry in New York, and amid standing ovation of the audience that had attended the hall where the Iranian President was to give his lecture as of early hours of the day, Ahmadinejad said that Iran is not going to attack any country in the world.

Before President Ahamadinejad's address, Colombia University Chancellor in a brief address told the audience that they would have the chance to hear Iran's stands as the Iranian President would put them forth.

He said that the Iranians are a peace loving nation, they hate war, and all types of aggression.

Referring to the technological achievements of the Iranian nation in the course of recent years, the president considered them as a sign for the Iranians' resolute will for achieving sustainable development and rapid advancement.

The audience on repeated occasion applauded Ahmadinejad when he touched on international crises.

At the end of his address President Ahmadinejad answered the students' questions on such issues as Israel, Palestine, Iran's nuclear program, the status of women in Iran and a number of other matters.

Excuse me. Pardon me. Anyone see an elephant in the room? He was wearing a Columbia University sweatshirt when last seen.


For the relatively "charmed... (Below threshold)

For the relatively "charmed" life that Mr. Ahmadinejad has in Iran, I am willing to bet the nature of his reception at Columbia was a bit of a surprise to say the least. For those of us who live in a society where dissent is a part of life he got off lightly because of the visibility he was accorded in the first place. But it has to be clear what an ass this guy is. For Bollinger he gets to play the pompous scold and gets his publicity.

Thomas Jefferson once wrote... (Below threshold)
Republican thinker:

Thomas Jefferson once wrote "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

Clearly he was dangerous and unamerican in his sentiment, and is someone we Republkicans should ignore at all costs.

For instance, consider the title of DJ's excellent post: "Freedom Is Evil When Used to Promote Evil" The only quibble I would have with this post is, wouldn't it be better to go further? Why not just call freedom evil? We all believe it.

The fastest way to prove to these commie moonbats, that the islamo nazis hate us for our freedoms, is to make sure we deny freedom of speech to islamo nazis. Isn't that the only way to guarentee they will truly stop hating us?

Yo:Anyone catc... (Below threshold)


Anyone catching Ahmadinijad's tripe spewing at the UN, right now? Classic, I tells ya', classic.

Why yes I am. And when compared to his "off-the-cuff" remarks yesterday, that at times were incoherent and very easily could be classified as someone with nothing more than a HS education, it's painfully clear his U.S. speech was written for him, pinned to his cheap assed, and mostly unpressed suit, and sent off to the U.S. by his Tehran handlers.

Tehran handlers, or MoveOn.... (Below threshold)

Tehran handlers, or MoveOn.org?

Do we need to make genocide... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Do we need to make genocide a point of debate? The liberal left has been taking advantage of the freedom of speech to promote evil, but the left has no respect for freedom of speech (a number of examples about Columbia univ have been pointed out already). Freedom of speech is simply a propaganda tool of the modern liberal left.

This is an good synopsys of Click 's excellent article
THE PROBLEM with Columbia's action, the reason that there can be no moral justification for the university's decision, is because by inviting Ahmadinejad to campus, Columbia has made the pros and cons of genocide a legitimate subject for debate. By asking Ahmadinejad challenging questions, Bollinger has reduced the right of the Jewish people to live to a question of preferences. No doubt, Bollinger prefers to see the Jewish people remain alive. But this is beside the point. The point is that by debating the issue with Ahmadinejad, Bollinger just put the right of the Jewish people to exist on the table.

I will say this on the topi... (Below threshold)

I will say this on the topic of the post: Let a guy like this come here and speak, and you find out, real quick, who your friends are.

Yo:Tehran hand... (Below threshold)


Tehran handlers, or MoveOn.org?

The people have "spoken", they may believe they are one and the same.

Two wonderful notes for Ahm... (Below threshold)

Two wonderful notes for Ahmad's speech:

1 - He vowed to break the NPT.

2 - In his words to countries that have treated Iran unfairly, he just declared war.

The guys have been giving a... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

The guys have been giving a number of speeches calling for the 2nd holocaust. Can we simply have an English subtitle or a translation for those speeches? We can show the video on CSPAN together will all the execution videos. Or the liberals are so clueless that they don't know how bad this guy is until he comes here?

"I know Voltaire, DJ; he wa... (Below threshold)

"I know Voltaire, DJ; he was a friend of mine." FF must mean Joe Voltaire who runs the crack house down the street, since the philosopher Voltaire died over 200 years ago. But, then again, if democrats continue to vote after they're dead...he might just know him.

"In addition, since no one is God and knows everything, it's impossible for any one person to be right about what's evil and what's not." Some things that are evil cut across all lines of sensibility. Using your logic, we better not incarcerate anybody, since, even child molestation or murder might not be evil, we might just not really know for sure.

Where is it in the Constitu... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Where is it in the Constitution that freedom of speech is guaranteed to those who are not citizens of this nation? Why would any wish to grant something to this underling, citizens of his nation do not enjoy? The scumbag is not even wearing a tie. Many liars have been hosted by this Nation, to speak at the UN. Ahmadinejad is just one more joining Chavez, Castro, and others to numberous to recall. One either believes in America or not. If not, what are you doing here freedom flies, jim?

Where in the constitution d... (Below threshold)
No Red Dog none of this:

Where in the constitution does it say that it is onl limited to citizens. In fact the founders beleived it was an absolute right. Unlike those who are unamerican like Zelsdorf. Love it or leave it asshat.

Just because we have free s... (Below threshold)

Just because we have free speech, does not mean that we have to give every crackpot a platform and/or a microphone to spew their venom.

I was wondering myself, Zel... (Below threshold)

I was wondering myself, Zelsdorf. Last I checked, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the First Amendment all applied to United States citizens, and no one else... or would the liberals have us live up to the claims against us of "imperialism" and go so far as to extend the Bill of Rights to the whole world?

This man, his government, and his country are actively supporting terrorists around the world, and the "insurgents" in Iraq currently killing our soldiers. No, we are not at war with Iran, but to think we are at peace is complete and utter stupidity.

A good thing (such as freedom of speech) when used for something evil ("Hey little girl, I have candy...") is sullied, damaged, and even made evil itself. That scumbag had all of the "freedom of speech" he wanted in his own country, at the cost of the oppression of millions, and death of thousands. Methinks he can enjoy that a lot more easily than coming here and spewing his filth unencumbered and unafraid.

Only the loony left would t... (Below threshold)

Only the loony left would think that our rights as citizens are equal to those who are not. So unproud of our country they are. ww

why on earth does ... (Below threshold)
why on earth does a filthy monster like him deserve the stage at an Ivy League school?

For the exact reasons I stated - so bad ideas can be driven out by good.

And in this case, so Ivy League students, a high percentage of which will go on to run our businesses and have influential positions in our government, will get to see this man up close.

And while no one is perfect, there most certain ly are people whose words and ideals are far more commendable and praiseworthy than Mahmoud 'Islam only for the bloody' Ahmadinejad.

Sure. No argument there.

My point is, it's good to hear him speak freely, *because* of this kind of rhetoric of his.

We can tolerate free speech we find offensive. He and his country can't. Advantage us - we are strong enough to take his words for what they are - hot air without substance, that do not threaten us.

And no, a head of state is treated with respect for his office by the host country's government, and he or she should reciprocate that respect. For Columbia, a private school, to embrace this monster is not mere protocol, and in any case his choice of words belies his presumed stature as a statesman.

So you're saying that private institutions do *not* treat visiting heads of state with respect?

That certainly isn't what I've seen. Pretty much any major institution, especially one that's as established as Columbia, treats heads of state with respect. If nothing else, because this is a sign of class.

Columbia would almost certainly treat *any* head of state with similar respect, merely because they are heads of state.

As re: # 7 - if we get info... (Below threshold)

As re: # 7 - if we get information from the news, then why do we ever want to see people in person?

The answer is:

a) when we're in a room with a person, we can more accurately get the measure of their personal character

b) most importantly, we can actually ask them questions ourselves, and challenge them.

Tehran handlers, or Karl Ro... (Below threshold)

Tehran handlers, or Karl Rove?

Um, Zelsdorf, it's stated i... (Below threshold)

Um, Zelsdorf, it's stated in the preamble.

You know... "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

We the people of the United States..... do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

By, us citizens, FOR us citizens.

C'mon, it's High School Civics material here.

I thought letting people us... (Below threshold)

I thought letting people use their own words to hang themselves was an American idea.
If not, why is Kristol writing in Time magazine?

One of the Deans at Columbi... (Below threshold)

One of the Deans at Columbia indicated that they would have invited Hitler to speak before he invaded Poland in 1939.

Why THAT date?? Hitler did not invade the United States in 1939. In fact, no state of war existed between the U.S. and Germany until December 11, 1941.

The Dean was, apparently, trying to say that until he showed the world he was a madman and/or bent on conquest beyond all "diplomacy", Hitler would be free to speak at Columbia.

But he had already showed the world he was a madman in 1925 with the publication of "Mein Kampf". And reinforced the image with the burning of the Reichstag, the "Night of the Long Knives", and other insane activities. Kristallnacht should have convinced even the Columbia "Deans" that Hitler was insane (and bent on irradiating the Jews)...and that occurred in 1938. (5 years AFTER Dachau opened for business)

And he had already shown he was bent on conquest, to the folly of "diplomacy", by:
- disregarding the Munich Pact with Neville "Peace in Our Time" Chamberlain (Hitler took over all Czechoslovakia...instead of just the Sudetenland that Chamberlain "gave" him)
- seizing of the Rhineland
- seizing Austria
- declaring null & void all WWI restrictions on German military might
- etc....

Choosing September, 1939 as the point at which the Columbia Dean's would have "woken up" and stopped inviting Adolph to come and chat with them was just another stupidity on the Dean's part. It was as obvious BEFORE that date that Hitler could not be "negotiated with"...just as it is now with AhmaNutJob.

Jim:b) most im... (Below threshold)


b) most importantly, we can actually ask them questions ourselves, and challenge them.

And what enlightenment did you gain by his speech and Q&A session?

Other than having no gays in Iran I mean. That's something the entire world learned, apparently. (according to Iran's version of Garp)

You and the rest of us learned exactly what was expected. Nothing, almost.

You learned how to evade pointed questions by asking questions or avoiding them all together.

And if you expected to learn more than nothing your nuts.

Oh, Marc - please.... (Below threshold)

Oh, Marc - please.

We learned that this tool could actually say that there are no gays in Iran, with a straight face.

That's actually learning a fair amount about him, and also the constituency he has to keep happy, in order to say things like that.

And he learned that if he says things like that in a free society, he's going to be mocked like he deserves.

That's how bad ideas get brought to the surface and get shot down.

I mean, actually I'd think ... (Below threshold)

I mean, actually I'd think you'd like this about Ahmadinejad's appearing at Columbia. There's been a lot of media coverage just because of this speech, showing just how crazy he sounds.

Jim:We learned... (Below threshold)


We learned that this tool could actually say that there are no gays in Iran, with a straight face.

Better re-roll the tape he had a smile on his face. You need to go back up thread and read, or reread, the Iranian news agency story on his appearance.

It was and will be used as a propaganda coop in Iran. That's very plain how that story is spun in Iranian press.

THAT'S why it was wrong to give him the platform.

Last I checked, the Cons... (Below threshold)

Last I checked, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the First Amendment all applied to United States citizens, and no one else

Interesting theory. So we can prohibit US-based foreigners from publishing newspapers, quarter soldiers in the homes of foreign visitors, search and seize the property and possessions of foreigners without a warrant, try foreigners without an indictment... multiple times, without a jury, compel them to testify against themselves, and then prescribe cruel and unusual punishment. Right here on American soil.

Oh, except that we can't, because it turns out that the Constitution doesn't actually enumerate rights of citizens (with few exceptions), but instead it tells the government what it can and can't do to "the people". And with few exceptions, it does not exempt those rules from being applied to non-citizens.

I would like to see a trans... (Below threshold)

I would like to see a transcript from today's speach. I believe Ahmadinejad did declare war on all non Muslin countries or at least made a not so subtle implication for Jihad.

The words translated were something like 'submit to God (Allah)'.

Muslim.no auto spe... (Below threshold)


no auto spell check.

Brian, while the Constituti... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Brian, while the Constitution does list the legal limits of government, the Bill of Rights were enumberated to protect the rights of citizens of this nation from government. Lefties think this is not necessary as government, according to the left when they are in charge, knows what is best for the people. Hence the novel notion that the Constitution is a living document. Wrong. it is static and can only be added to by amendment or changed by Consitutional convention. Brian, as a kindness, guest can be allowed Constitutional rights but that does not extend to those to whom we allow into the country because they wish to attend UN functions.

the Bill of Rights were ... (Below threshold)

the Bill of Rights were enumberated to protect the rights of citizens of this nation from government.

Yes, exactly. And as such, they were generally written as instructions to government, not as proclamations to citizens. They do not grant rights, but instead prohibit government from actions that would infringe those rights. Instead of "a citizen shall have the right to exercise religion", it is "Congress shall make no law". Instead of "citizens have the right to bear arms", it is "the right of the people... shall not be infringed [by the government]." Instead of "a person has a the right to not board soldiers", it is "No Soldier shall... be quartered [by the government]". Etc.

Here's a good summary:

The important point is that the Constitution doesn't apply to Americans, it doesn't apply to citizens, it doesn't even apply to "people." It applies to the federal government. The body of the Constitution tells the federal government what it is allowed to do, and in some places it explains how to do it (election procedures and such). The Bill of Rights tells the federal government what it is not allowed to do . . .

1. Make no law abridging freedom of speech, press, religion, or assembly,
2. Do not infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.
3. Don't quarter soldiers in peacetime.
4. Don't conduct unreasonable searches and seizures.
5. Don't commit double jeopardy or force people to testify against themselves.
6. Don't deny an accused a speedy trial.
7. Don't deny an accused a trial by jury.
8. Do not impose excessive bail.
9. Just because certain rights of the people aren't mentioned in this Constitution doesn't mean you're allowed to usurp them.
10. Don't exercise any power not authorized in this Constitution.

Where exceptions were meant to apply, they are specifically stated.

... sure would be nice if, ... (Below threshold)

... sure would be nice if, say, Iran followed a set of rules like that, hmm?

Funny thing is, I have this idea that the Iranian PEOPLE would not mind it a bit!

Funny thing is, I have t... (Below threshold)

Funny thing is, I have this idea that the Iranian PEOPLE would not mind it a bit!

Someone once said that about the Iraqi people, too.

Tyranny and freedom of spee... (Below threshold)

Tyranny and freedom of speech are a devastating mix. The result of such a lethal combination is systematic, desensitized annihilation of that which does not conform to specific standards. This potential influence should have been more than obvious to the people of Columbia University that invited Ahmadinejad to speak there.

Would they ever consiter in... (Below threshold)
Spurwing Plover:

Would they ever consiter inviting the MINUTE MEN or the NRA without the liberal goons reshing the stage would they ever invite jesus there as well?

So jim, the survival of the... (Below threshold)

So jim, the survival of the jews is a fit subject for discussion? Dispassionately, I hope.

Kim, Click 's point... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Click 's point (and yours) has been proven here


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