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Educating Barack Obama

A few days ago, I wrote a post about Obama complaining about the Clintons' tag teaming him and lying about his past record and current statements. My response was "welcome to the Republicans' world, Senator." The Wall Street Journal also has noted in an editorial today how Barack Obama is seeing the Clintons' nastiness for the first time and is shocked by it:

One of our favorite Bill Clinton anecdotes involves a confrontation he had with Bob Dole in the Oval Office after the 1996 election. Mr. Dole protested Mr. Clinton's attack ads claiming the Republican wanted to harm Medicare, but the President merely smiled that Bubba grin and said, "You gotta do what you gotta do."

We're reminded of that story listening to Barack Obama protest his treatment by the now ex-President Clinton on behalf of his wanna-be-President wife. "You know the former President, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling," Mr. Obama told a TV interviewer. "He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts -- whether it's about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organizing in Las Vegas."

Now he knows how the rest of us feel.

The Illinois Senator is still a young man, but not so young as to have missed the 1990s. He nonetheless seems to be awakening slowly to what everyone else already knows about the Clintons, which is that they will say and do whatever they "gotta" say or do to win. Listen closely to Mr. Obama, and you can almost hear the echoes of Bob Dole at the end of the 1996 campaign asking, "Where's the outrage?"

Other Democrats also are finally beginning to see the Clintons for who and what they are. Andrew Sullivan has a post about the WSJ's editorial and includes an email from a Democrat reader who is finally beginning to see the truth about the Clintons:

As a strong supporter of the Clinton(s)' presidency in the 1990s, watching the 'two-headed monster' in action now has been illuminating, and I think an important eye-opener for a lot of Democrats. For the life of me during the 90s, I couldn't understand the partisan vitriol, the absolute intensity of the right-wing hatred for Bill and Hill. I always thought it would take historians to decipher it. Now, I realize that it was at least partially due to their lapses into dishonesty, their no holds barred approach to political warfare, and yes a certain je ne se quoi about their style which often makes you want to wring their necks. Clinton Derangement Syndrome, including the insane impeachment, wasn't due entirely to right-wing hysteria.

No kidding.


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Comments (16)

Maybe Obama isn't up to the... (Below threshold)

Maybe Obama isn't up to the Clintons level, but he's not oblivious either. Anyone with a brain in their head know what Bill & Hillary are.

I think, overall, Obama is playing this very well. People's distaste for the Clintons is rallying everyone to Obama's side.

Oh, NOW they're starting to... (Below threshold)
The Listkeeper:

Oh, NOW they're starting to get it. GEEEEEEEEEEEEZ

I donate to Barack's campai... (Below threshold)

I donate to Barack's campaign and talk him up in all my classes. But I'm really getting worried because it's like he never sees what's coming. I wish he would campaign smarter. In the debate Monday night, I was yelling at the TV and wishing he'd come to life but he really didn't. I fear he's going to drop out soon just because he's sick of the attacks. If that happens, it's because he's too good for this nonsense. I'll vote for him in 2012 or 2016 as easily as I will this year. He's the real thing. I just think he's too good for politics.

Anyone with a brain i... (Below threshold)

Anyone with a brain in their head know what Bill & Hillary are.

That's not an encouraging thought given that in 1992 43% had no brains and in 1996 49.2% were brainless. I think the Clintons believe in the trend. Can't blame them. The numbers don't lie.

25+ years of Bush-Clinton-B... (Below threshold)

25+ years of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton is just too much. HILLARY SUPPORTERS - Come on, is this the best we can do? With 300 million people in America we can only vote for Bush or Clinton - give me a break. THE CLINTONS need to go away. They will lie, cheat and steal to get back into power - TAKE time to go behind the spin and look at the real records. Hillary and Bill don't come out clean. PLEASE (esp.) women - think twice before casting a vote for yet ANOTHER Clinton.

Jim, Don't worry to... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica, Immigrant:

Don't worry too much. Obama is also experienced in hardball dirty politics. He can spin as smoothly as Bill Clinton. So Hillary is no match for him in terms of spinning. But he had a disadvantage against the tag team of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bill is as good a liar if not better than Obama. Also Obama 's rhetoric is simply empty and vapid (doesn't match with his record). So the Clintons have plenty of ammunition against him. Obama will need the help of white liberals since the Hispanics are voting for the Clinton in even larger percentage compared to the blacks voting for Obama. Unfortunately so far, the white liberals seem to support the known corrupted Clintons. My guess in the end you will still vote for Hillary in any case. The liberal agenda or "ideal" is more important in any case.


Obama had returned to Chicago and practiced civil rights law for 3 years, when he spied an opportunity to run for the state senate. A longtime, widely-revered matron of the civil rights movement named Alice Palmer had held the seat for a number of years, but she announced that she wanted to run for Congress. So, Obama seized the opportunity and proclaimed his intention to run for Alice's open seat.

Well, Alice lost the congressional race and decided that she wanted to hang onto that hard-won state senate seat. Most of the community leaders tried to persuade Obama to withdraw and wait his turn; he was a newcomer after all.

Instead Obama performed his first real act of political jujitsu. He sent his aides to the courthouse to carefully examine all of Alice Palmer's signatures to see if enough could be disallowed to knock her off the ballot altogether. And indeed, some of Alice's signatures were fake. The aides also found enough other fake signatures on opponents' ballot initiatives to knock them off the ballot as well.

Here I thought it would tak... (Below threshold)

Here I thought it would take a hundred years for democrats to see the sleeze and slime oozing from Shrillary and Slick throughout the 90's. Half of the democrats still deny there is anything wrong with these criminals, how they do that is beyond me. By the way, if you sit back and watch B Hussein Obama he is no better and maybe worse. A con man in line with JJ and AS only with a better education so he can get in deeper pockets with his con. How stupid do you have to be to still believe anyone stole the election in 2000, 8 to 10 recounts and Algorbage lost every one by an increasing amount. That is how deep a state of denial the democrats are in.

He nonetheless seems to ... (Below threshold)

He nonetheless seems to be awakening slowly to what everyone else already knows about the Clintons, which is that they will say and do whatever they "gotta" say or do to win.

I think a lot of us on the left are coming to the same conclusion. In fact, I just posted this a few hours ago:

These people are smart and they will do anything to get elected. That much should be obvious to everyone at this point.

I started out this campaign as an enthusiastic Hillary supporter. Now I'm having a hard time imagining pulling the lever for her in November. Who wants 4 years of Bill Clinton at war with everyone again? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm thinking McCain might not be so bad, especially with a Dem-controlled Congress.

And another thing: I almost... (Below threshold)

And another thing: I almost fell out of my chair when Hillary brought up the Rezko affair.

I mean...hello???

Rose Law firm, cattle futures trading, Whitewater, and on and on. Some saying about people who live in glass houses comes to mind.

Give me a break Hillary. We expect this thing from Republicans but not from fellow Democrats. When did Obama ever mention anything about all of her scandals? He still hasn't.

Larkin - "I almost fell... (Below threshold)

Larkin - "I almost fell out of my chair"

I see you "fell out of your" Blue "chair" as well.

Too bad, now with nothing to do you'll spend way too much time peddling your asshattry here.

That's right Marc. I'm bac... (Below threshold)

That's right Marc. I'm back. I can feeeeel the love...

If Obama can't muster the g... (Below threshold)

If Obama can't muster the guts to stop using weasel words like "not accurate" and "factually incorrect," he can't fight these people. They are political warriors, and they take no prisoners. You are on their side, or you are an enemy to be ruined, destroyed, and/or crippled.

Clinton does have a point about the war record and Obama's 2004 statements, though. Why won't Obama come out and deny saying those things? Because he knows the tapes are out there, and the minute he directly denies saying them, they will be playing nonstop on the cable news and streaming across the internet.

As I posted on Monday, Obama can't have it both ways. He can either be the "new kind of politician" who rejects "politics as usual" and campaigns above it all with soaring, if content-free, rhetoric, or he can get down on the ground and fight the Clinton machine.

He can't do both. And that is what Bill Clinton is teaching him right now.

Why doesnt Barak (cocaine r... (Below threshold)

Why doesnt Barak (cocaine rhymes with Hussein ) Obama just call Hillary the abuse supporting hussy that She is?

Alls fair in greed and politics.

I think Obama should learn ... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

I think Obama should learn from John Kerry's experience, when he failed to respond to the Swift-boat attacks and didn't criticize Bush strongly on the conduct of the war until it was too late..It may be negative campaigning but Obama can control his anger, that is one of his best qualities...Hillary and Bill can't. In responding they will go over the top, and Hillary has more than once asked her audiences to compare records..She thinks she has been "vetted", but where and when?... two push over extremely expensive Senatorial campaigns against people no one had ever heard of an Congressman, Rick Lazio and then an ex Yonkers mayor.

SchadenfreudeMaybe... (Below threshold)


Maybe the VRWC wasn't wrong after all...

..Obama can't have it bo... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

..Obama can't have it both ways. He can either be the "new kind of politician" who rejects "politics as usual" and campaigns above it all with soaring, if content-free, rhetoric, or he can get down on the ground and fight the Clinton machine.

He can't do both.

Sure he can. He just needs a supportive media to highlight his good points and ignore his failings.

The MSM is more than willing to do this, for 'their' candidate. The problem is, right now the MSM doesn't know whether to shit or go blind in deciding to support Hillary or Barack. (bwahaha)






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